Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19E3964C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:12:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.saout.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.saout.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vgcSu2bIQL3Y for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maude.comedia.it (mail.comedia.it [77.93.254.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maude.comedia.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4617586F42 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:12:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maude.comedia.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (maude.comedia.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id AAOKTff1iJzk for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:12:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:12:46 +0200 From: Luca Berra Message-ID: <20090810061245.GA9508@maude.comedia.it> References: <20090808132614.GA29656@fancy-poultry.org> <4A7D91A8.5080902@gmx.de> <20090808153635.GA31434@fancy-poultry.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090808153635.GA31434@fancy-poultry.org> Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] LUKS/dm-crypt vulnerable? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: dm-crypt@saout.de On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 05:36:35PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: >But what happens when the machine is powered off and stolen? >The thief wants to have my data. Can he/she use something like "stoned" to >get into the system and decrypt the harddisk contents? To achieve this, they will have to hand it back, wait for you to type your password to boot, then steal it again :P Stoned is just a trojan that installs into the boot sector, a very well done trojan, but that is. The whole argument about stoned and truecrypt is that stoned developer insisted truecrypt was not secure, because it did not enforce checking of boot sector integrity. Truecrypt developers said that was a moot point, because, if someone is able to replace the boot sector it could well replace the code that checks its integrity. add a bit of hype, mix ..... L. -- Luca Berra -- bluca@comedia.it Communication Media & Services S.r.l. /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN X AGAINST HTML MAIL / \