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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda - Make path_has_mixer() tristate
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:07:56 +0100
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Takashi Iwai wrote on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:54:01 +0100:

> At Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:20:22 +0100,
> David Henningsson wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-03-06 10:57, Ingo Br=FCckl wrote:
>> > Takashi Iwai wrote on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:38:49 +0100:
>> >
>> >> Even if you try parsing the topology at first with ignoring 0x15,
>> >> you'll need to add the path over 0x15 manually back to the
>> >> information.  Otherwise it can't work.
>> >
>> > Why can't it work? I'm not going to use the speaker.
>>
>> There is no known hardware that has an speaker with no connection to it
>> (and it would be a BIOS error if there was one), so it is not a priority
>> (perhaps not even of interest) of the driver to support it.
>> Especially not as the option of using e g hdajackretask [1] to disable
>> the speaker permanently is an easier and better way than starting to
>> mess around with the connections and paths manually.

> Right.  The big difference is "not using" and "disabling".  The former
> is user's decision, but without telling the driver to disable the
> functionality, the driver must still assume that it might be used in
> future.

Thank you very much for this explanation. As a simple user, not being deep
into hardware and driver internals, I wasn't aware of that difference.

> OTOH, the latter can be achieved easily by changing the pin default
> configuration

Fine, if just someone could please advise what to do (hdajackretask isn't
an option, no GUI, only console access).

Ingo