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Tsirkin" , Richard Henderson , Halil Pasic , Eric Farman , qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, =?utf-8?Q?Marc-Andr?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9?= Lureau Subject: Re: qemu-system-x86_64 appears to have sgx-epc, but not memory-backend-epc In-Reply-To: Organization: "Red Hat GmbH, Sitz: Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 12, D-85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=BCnchen=2C?= HRB 153243, =?utf-8?Q?Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer=3A?= Ryan Barnhart, Charles Cachera, Avril Crosse O'Flaherty" References: <87zew5j3iv.fsf@pond.sub.org> <87bj7vwokb.fsf@pond.sub.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.40 (https://notmuchmail.org) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 14:33:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87jymjwl0w.fsf@redhat.com> X-Archived-By: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.30.177.111 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=cohuck@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: 5 X-Spam_score: 0.5 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: qemu development List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on aws-us-west-2-korg-listserv-alma10-1 On Wed, Nov 11 2026, Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2026 at 01:16:36PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> Peter Maydell writes: >>=20 >> > On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 at 11:21, Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 02:58:16PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> >> > My build of qemu-system-x86_64 has device sgx-epc: >> >> > >> >> > --> {"execute": "qom-list-types", "arguments": {"implements": "sgx= -epc"}} >> >> > <-- {"return": [{"name": "sgx-epc", "parent": "device"}]} >> >> > >> >> > The device as a link property to a memory-backend-epc: >> >> > >> >> > --> {"execute": "qom-list-properties", "arguments": {"typename": "= sgx-epc"}} >> >> > <-- {"return": [... >> >> > {"name": "memdev", "type": "link"}, >> >> > ...]} >> >> > >> >> > However, type memory-backend-epc does not exist: >> > >> >> There is some rather dubious code that conditionally registers >> >> the type >> >> >> >> static void register_types(void) >> >> { >> >> int fd =3D qemu_open_old("/dev/sgx_vepc", O_RDWR); >> >> if (fd >=3D 0) { >> >> close(fd); >> >> >> >> type_register_static(&sgx_epc_backed_info); >> >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> >> >> Normal practice is for types to be unconditionally registered. Do we >> >> have any examples outside of this SGX case where we conditionally >> >> register types ? Should we change this to follow normal practice ? >> > >> > TYPE_MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD does the same. I did a quick grep for >> > "calls to type_register not indented by exactly 4 spaces" and >> > I think the other cases are "misindented" or "data-driven >> > type registration" rather than trying to do things conditionally >> > (but I didn't actually look at all of them, instead making >> > guesses based on variable names, so maybe there's one or two >> > more I missed). >>=20 >> Alright, I looked. In addition to "misindented" or "data-driven", I >> found: >>=20 >> * register_types() in hostmem-memfd.c registers "memory-backend-memfd" >> only when a test of memfd_create() succeeds. This is what Peter >> reported. >>=20 >> * virtio_ccw_gpu_register() in hw/s390x/virtio-ccw-gpu.c registers >> "virtio-gpu-ccw" only when have_virtio_ccw, which is true when >> hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c gets compiled into the binary. So it's >> effectively compile-time conditional. >>=20 >> I wish it was literally compile-time conditional, either in meson or >> using #if. > > That looks like it is dead code to me. hw/s390x/meson.build does > > hw_s390x_modules =3D {} > virtio_gpu_ccw_ss =3D ss.source_set() > virtio_gpu_ccw_ss.add(when: ['CONFIG_VIRTIO_GPU', 'CONFIG_VIRTIO_CCW'], > if_true: [files('virtio-ccw-gpu.c'), pixman]) > hw_s390x_modules +=3D {'virtio-gpu-ccw': virtio_gpu_ccw_ss} > > it doesn't look like 'have_virtio_ccw' can ever be false, due > to the CONFIG_VIRTIO_CCW Kconfig check ? adcf33a504de ("s390x: modularize virtio-gpu-ccw") seems to indicate that this is needed for virtio-gpu-ccw being a module, not sure if that is still the case.