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Linksys WRT54G and the GPL

DISCUSSION Peter Westwood 6 participants 6 messages Jun 8, 2003 – Jun 10, 2003

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Hi All,

In a similar vein to the Linksys router. I have a Buffalo (Melco) WBR-G54.

Looking through the latest firmware update available :
http://www.buffalo-technology.com/support/firmware.htm

It does appear to be similar to the Linksys firmware and contain linux and possibly busybox

No mention here or anywhere on there site of the GPL or the source code to what they are distributing!

Unfortunately an nmap scan only shows the following ports open:

Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap ) Interesting ports on (192.168.0.1):
(The 1597 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)

Port       State       Service
53/tcp     open        domain
80/tcp     open        http
2601/tcp   open        zebra
2602/tcp   open        ripd

Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20 Uptime 1.252 days (since Sat Jun 07 15:51:52 2003)
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 13 seconds

No telnet or ssh for me to try to discover more.

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2601/tcp   open        zebra
2602/tcp   open        ripd

Remote operating system guess: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20 Uptime 1.252 days (since Sat Jun 07 15:51:52 2003)
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 13 seconds

zebra accepts telnet connections, and displays its version number on connect.

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Hi All,

In a similar vein to the Linksys router. I have a Buffalo (Melco) WBR-G54.

Looking through the latest firmware update available :
http://www.buffalo-technology.com/support/firmware.htm

I grabbed the wbr-113b.exe, lha x ed it
and found a cramfs image 2 bytes further on in the file than with the linksys firmware.

lha x wbr-113.exe

dd if=wbrbg-113b of=test.dump skip=853 bs=922c

You now have a mountable cramfs which seems to include quite a bit of GPLed free software at a glance Zebra, fwlogwatch, busybox, dnrd, udhcpd, ntpclient.

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On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 09:57:04PM +0100, Peter Westwood <[email protected]> wrote...

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Looking through the latest firmware update available :
http://www.buffalo-technology.com/support/firmware.htm

No mention here or anywhere on there site of the GPL or the source code to what they are distributing!

I have another product from Melco/Buffalo and found out, that it had Linux and other GPLed (and BSD with adv. clause and Apache with end-user doc clasue and and and) materials on it, without the manual or their web page mentioning it. Their telephone support
in Japan (where the stuff comes from) didn't give sh*t about it and repeatedly told me about their policy of not telling anything about the inner workings of products and even refused to either elevate me to talk to somebody else or give me an contacting point to either their legal or PR departments.
I directly called the PR guy responsible for that line of products at their headquater (good to be on their list of press) and explained the situation to him. He promised to clear it up with legal and the developers. After about a week (and me ranting about an anonymous company in my blog) he got back with a very detailed and polite answer about the situation. They DID know about the issues involved and their obligations. Just that their other hand (like support and web page creation) isn't up to the "new" style and that they were fixing it. I also found out, that the "quick setup" leaflet in the product actually contained a small note that the product included GPLed software.

It has been 3 month since. If they havn't gotten their act together still, they need to be reminded of it.

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Another product from Linksys that runs linux is "EtherFast® Network Attached Storage." The firmware contains an ext2 image with some i386 binaries. It appears to be running 2.4.14-xfs (I did not locate the kernel, but the network module has it as a version.)

This is what I did:

unzip efg80.zip
mv EFG80_V10R33.bin EFG80_V10R33.bin.tar.gz
tar -xzf EFG80_V10R33.bin.tar.gz
cd rpm
mv system.img system.img.gz
gzip -df system.img
mount system.img /mnt -t ext2 -o loop

Jeff.

P.S. I did not check every document Linksys has about this product.

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I directly called the PR guy responsible for that line of products at their headquater (good to be on their list of press) and explained the situation to him. He promised to clear it up with legal and the developers. After about a week (and me ranting about an anonymous company in my blog) he got back with a very detailed and polite answer about the situation. They DID know about the issues involved and their obligations. Just that their other hand (like support and web page creation) isn't up to the "new" style and that they were fixing it. I also found out, that the "quick setup" leaflet in the product actually contained a small note that the product included GPLed software.

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It has been 3 month since. If they havn't gotten their act together still, they need to be reminded of it.

Over a month ago I send them a request and this is their response:

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From [email protected] Fri Apr 25 20:04:28 2003

Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:52:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Linux & WLI-CB-G54
From: Dave Howell <[email protected]>
To: Michael Neuffer <[email protected]>

Michael,

Thank you for your interest in Buffalo's wireless products.
At this time, Buffalo does not support Linux for our wireless products. We are working with our chip mfg on this issue and should have working Linux drivers in the future but we cannot say when.

Keep posted to our website for the latest information.

Regards,

Dave Howell
Buffalo Technology USA

U.S. Technical Support is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Consumers call: 866-752-6210
Resellers call: 877-424-6355

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