Skip to contentSkip to conversation

f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

PATCH In review Chao Yu 3 participants 19 messages Dec 29, 2015 – Feb 6, 2016

Subsystems (2)
lore
Share & tools
lore

Chao Yu

author
#0 lore raw

PATCH 2/2 f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

So this patch tries to improve atomic write flow, it adds a flow to support revoking these partial submitted data of transaction when inner error occurs. after this patch journal db file could be deprecated to reduce memory footprint.

If revoking is failed, EAGAIN will be reported to user for sugguesting retrying current transaction.

---
 fs/f2fs/data.c              |   1 +
 fs/f2fs/f2fs.h              |   4 +-
 fs/f2fs/file.c              |   2 +-
 fs/f2fs/recovery.c          |   2 +-
 fs/f2fs/segment.c           | 116 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
 fs/f2fs/segment.h           |   1 +
 include/trace/events/f2fs.h |   1 +
 7 files changed, 90 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/data.c +1 -0
index d506a0e..7175d33 100644
@@ -1052,6 +1052,7 @@ int do_write_data_page(struct f2fs_io_info *fio)
 		return err;
 
 	fio->blk_addr = dn.data_blkaddr;
+	fio->old_blkaddr = dn.data_blkaddr;
 
 	/* This page is already truncated */
 	if (fio->blk_addr == NULL_ADDR) {
fs/f2fs/f2fs.h +3 -1
index 7fbfee9..9ba6a09 100644
@@ -679,6 +679,7 @@ enum page_type {
 	META_FLUSH,
 	INMEM,		/* the below types are used by tracepoints only. */
 	INMEM_DROP,
+	INMEM_REVOKE,
 	IPU,
 	OPU,
 };
@@ -688,6 +689,7 @@ struct f2fs_io_info {
 	enum page_type type;	/* contains DATA/NODE/META/META_FLUSH */
 	int rw;			/* contains R/RS/W/WS with REQ_META/REQ_PRIO */
 	block_t blk_addr;	/* block address to be written */
+	block_t old_blkaddr;	/* old block address before Cow */
 	struct page *page;	/* page to be written */
 	struct page *encrypted_page;	/* encrypted page */
 };
@@ -1804,7 +1806,7 @@ void write_node_page(unsigned int, struct f2fs_io_info *);
 void write_data_page(struct dnode_of_data *, struct f2fs_io_info *);
 void rewrite_data_page(struct f2fs_io_info *);
 void f2fs_replace_block(struct f2fs_sb_info *, struct dnode_of_data *,
-				block_t, block_t, unsigned char, bool);
+				block_t, block_t, unsigned char, bool, bool);
 void allocate_data_block(struct f2fs_sb_info *, struct page *,
 		block_t, block_t *, struct f2fs_summary *, int);
 void f2fs_wait_on_page_writeback(struct page *, enum page_type);
fs/f2fs/file.c +1 -1
index cfe7f13..91d5abd 100644
@@ -885,7 +885,7 @@ static int __exchange_data_block(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t src,
 
 		get_node_info(sbi, dn.nid, &ni);
 		f2fs_replace_block(sbi, &dn, dn.data_blkaddr, new_addr,
-				ni.version, true);
+				ni.version, true, false);
 		f2fs_put_dnode(&dn);
 	} else {
 		struct page *psrc, *pdst;
fs/f2fs/recovery.c +1 -1
index 589b20b..581544d 100644
@@ -467,7 +467,7 @@ static int do_recover_data(struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi, struct inode *inode,
 
 			/* write dummy data page */
 			f2fs_replace_block(sbi, &dn, src, dest,
-							ni.version, false);
+						ni.version, false, false);
 			recovered++;
 		}
 	}
fs/f2fs/segment.c +82 -34

191 lines not on this page · raw message

fs/f2fs/segment.h +1 -0
index ee44d34..5146eb7 100644
@@ -191,6 +191,7 @@ struct segment_allocation {
 struct inmem_pages {
 	struct list_head list;
 	struct page *page;
+	block_t old_addr;		/* for revoking when fail to commit */
 };
 
 struct sit_info {
include/trace/events/f2fs.h +1 -0
index a1b4888..851f158 100644
@@ -52,6 +52,7 @@ TRACE_DEFINE_ENUM(CP_DISCARD);
 		{ META_FLUSH,	"META_FLUSH" },				\
 		{ INMEM,	"INMEM" },				\
 		{ INMEM_DROP,	"INMEM_DROP" },				\
+		{ INMEM_REVOKE,	"INMEM_REVOKE" },			\
 		{ IPU,		"IN-PLACE" },				\
 		{ OPU,		"OUT-OF-PLACE" })
 
Signature · 1 line
2.6.3
maintainer
#1 lore raw

Hi Chao,

Quoted 12 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery. But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

Quoted 1 line

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001

From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -3
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
Signature · 1 line
2.6.3
author
#2 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 28 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:05 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 12 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Quoted 5 lines

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.
b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.
c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.
d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.
e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

maintainer
#3 lore raw
Quoted 57 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 28 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:05 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 12 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Quoted 5 lines

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.
b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.
c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.
d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.
e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Quoted 8 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Or introduce F2FS_IOC_COMMIT_ATOMIC_WRITE_V2 for revoking supported interface?

Quoted 43 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 38 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +0 -0
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
Quoted 10 lines

fs/f2fs/file.c static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp) · line 1442

Quoted 10 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +7 -3
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);

Any more inmem pages exist here? Shouldn't these page have been released above?

Thanks,

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 8 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +3 -1
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

maintainer
#4 lore raw
Quoted 112 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 57 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 28 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:05 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 12 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Quoted 5 lines

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.
b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.
c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.
d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.
e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Quoted 8 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Or introduce F2FS_IOC_COMMIT_ATOMIC_WRITE_V2 for revoking supported interface?

Quoted 43 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 38 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +0 -0
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
Quoted 12 lines
Quoted 10 lines

fs/f2fs/file.c static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp) · line 1442

Quoted 10 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +7 -3
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);

Any more inmem pages exist here? Shouldn't these page have been released above?

Oh, this should be like:

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
	ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
}

Thanks,

Quoted 20 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 8 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +3 -1
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

maintainer
#5 lore raw
In reply to Chao Yu

Hello,

Quoted 33 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 31 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:05 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 12 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 2 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 2 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Quoted 3 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Quoted 8 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android. For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?) Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

author
#6 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 56 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 3:41 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hello,

Quoted 33 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 31 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:05 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 12 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

maintainer
#7 lore raw

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 40 lines
Quoted 40 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why? Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 6 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 1 line

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Quoted 12 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

Quoted 5 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 97 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

maintainer
#8 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 38 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 107 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

Quoted 74 lines

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

author
#9 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Thanks,

Quoted 317 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 38 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 101 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

Quoted 74 lines

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

Quoted 6 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

maintainer
#10 lore raw
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 320 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 317 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 38 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 101 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

Quoted 74 lines

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

Quoted 6 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

maintainer
#11 lore raw

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes. I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 340 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 320 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 317 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 38 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 101 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

Quoted 74 lines

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

Quoted 6 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

author
#12 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 9 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 7 lines

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

Thanks,

Quoted 5 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Quoted 343 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 340 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 320 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 317 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 38 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 101 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

Quoted 74 lines

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

Quoted 6 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140

maintainer
#13 lore raw

Hi Chao,

Quoted 15 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 13 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

In the above case, I think I made broken journal header. At the same time, I broke database file too, but I could see that database file is recovered likewise roll-back. I couldn't find corruption of database.

Okay, I'll test again by corrupting journal body with valid header.

Thanks,

Quoted 351 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 348 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 340 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 320 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 317 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 38 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write & recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 101 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 9 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

Quoted 74 lines

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 65 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 62 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 56 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -4
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

Quoted 6 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

author
#14 lore raw

Ping,

Quoted 397 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:03 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 15 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 13 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

In the above case, I think I made broken journal header. At the same time, I broke database file too, but I could see that database file is recovered likewise roll-back. I couldn't find corruption of database.

Okay, I'll test again by corrupting journal body with valid header.

Thanks,

Quoted 179 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 176 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 168 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 159 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 156 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 12 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

Quoted 5 lines

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write, because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case, we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write

&

Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 31 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also

for

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would

be

Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 38 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 35 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 30 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

fs/f2fs/file.c static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file

Quoted 5 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +0 -0
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file

*filp)

Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 29 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -3
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +0 -1
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

maintainer
#15 lore raw

Hi Chao,

Quoted 41 lines · Chao Yu

Ping,

Quoted 39 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:03 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 15 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 13 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

In the above case, I think I made broken journal header. At the same time, I broke database file too, but I could see that database file is recovered likewise roll-back. I couldn't find corruption of database.

Okay, I'll test again by corrupting journal body with valid header.

Hmm, it's quite difficult to produce any corruption case.

I tried the below tests, but in all the cases, sqlite did rollback successfully.

- -EIO for one db write with valid header + valid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with valid header + invalid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with invalid header + valid body in journal

Note that, I checked both integrity_check and table contents after each tests.

I suspect that journal uses checksums to validate its contents?

Thanks,

Quoted 358 lines
Quoted 358 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 179 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 176 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 168 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 159 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 156 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 47 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 43 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 17 lines

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power
cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in
inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data
won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write,
because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we
could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty
data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case,
we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures, since database should get its error literally.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change as much as possible.

Quoted 4 lines

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 13 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 8 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction, so in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write

&

Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 49 lines
Quoted 31 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also

for

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would

be

Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 65 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 38 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 35 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 30 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the current implementation.

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

---
 fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

fs/f2fs/file.c static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file

Quoted 5 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +0 -0
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file

*filp)

Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 29 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +10 -3
 	if (ret)
 		return ret;
 
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
-	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
-	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+	}
+	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+		if (!ret)
+			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+	}
 
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines
fs/f2fs/file.c +0 -1
 	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
 	return ret;
--

2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

author
#16 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 50 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:37 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 40 lines · Chao Yu

Ping,

Quoted 38 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:03 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 15 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 13 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

In the above case, I think I made broken journal header. At the same time, I broke database file too, but I could see that database file is recovered likewise roll-back. I couldn't find corruption of database.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

Okay, I'll test again by corrupting journal body with valid header.

Hmm, it's quite difficult to produce any corruption case.

I tried the below tests, but in all the cases, sqlite did rollback successfully.

As you saw valid db file at final, I suspect that:
a) db file was recovered by f2fs: after we fail in atomic commit, if checkpoint isn't be triggered to persist partial pages of one transaction, db file will be recovered to last transaction after an abnormal power-cut by f2fs.
b) or db file was recovered by sqlite: sqlite will try to do the revoking after it detects failure of atomic commit. Similarly, db file will be recovered.

Quoted 8 lines

- -EIO for one db write with valid header + valid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with valid header + invalid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with invalid header + valid body in journal

Note that, I checked both integrity_check and table contents after each tests.

I suspect that journal uses checksums to validate its contents?

Yes, there is one checksum after each 4K-size journal page.

IMO, it's better to just destroy last one or two journal pages to make corrupted journal file. For example, if there are 10 pages in journal, let kworker writebacks [0-7] pages include partial old pages of transaction and journal header, and holds [8-9] pages in memory, so in disk, [8-9] pages were invalid to sqlite due to wrong checksum, and other pages will be judged as valid for recovery. Note that, pages after first invalid page were also be judged as invalid by sqlite.

Thanks,

Quoted 373 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 48 lines
Quoted 48 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 45 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 42 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 34 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 25 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 22 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 12 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines · Chao Yu

f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power
cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in
inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data
won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write,
because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4,

we

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines

could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty
data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case,
we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures,
since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further

db

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 1 line

recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily

try

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change

as

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

much as possible.

Quoted 1 line

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering

for

Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

*rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 21 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 6 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into disk, it will destroy db file.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 1 line

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db

file

Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in atomic-interface.

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction,

so

Quoted 81 lines
Quoted 81 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines

in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write

&

Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 31 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 5 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will

still

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply

this

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also

for

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation

would

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

be

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow,

how

Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 1 line

about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 11 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 8 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

Quoted 3 lines

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the
current implementation.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and

db

Quoted 73 lines
Quoted 73 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines

- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
---
fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

diff --git a/fs/f2fs/file.c b/fs/f2fs/file.c
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
--- a/fs/f2fs/file.c
+++ b/fs/f2fs/file.c
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file

*filp)

Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 29 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines

if (ret)
return ret;

- clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
- clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
- commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+ if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+ clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+ commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+ }
+ if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+ clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+ ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+ if (!ret)
+ ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+ }

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
return ret;
--
2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

maintainer
#17 lore raw

Hi Chao,

Quoted 51 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 25 lines
Quoted 25 lines
Quoted 25 lines
Quoted 12 lines
Quoted 12 lines

From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

In the above case, I think I made broken journal header. At the same time, I broke database file too, but I could see that database file is recovered likewise roll-back. I couldn't find corruption of database.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

Okay, I'll test again by corrupting journal body with valid header.

Hmm, it's quite difficult to produce any corruption case.

I tried the below tests, but in all the cases, sqlite did rollback successfully.

As you saw valid db file at final, I suspect that:
a) db file was recovered by f2fs: after we fail in atomic commit, if checkpoint isn't be triggered to persist partial pages of one transaction, db file will be recovered to last transaction after an abnormal power-cut by f2fs.
b) or db file was recovered by sqlite: sqlite will try to do the revoking after it detects failure of atomic commit. Similarly, db file will be recovered.

Quoted 8 lines

- -EIO for one db write with valid header + valid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with valid header + invalid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with invalid header + valid body in journal

Note that, I checked both integrity_check and table contents after each tests.

I suspect that journal uses checksums to validate its contents?

Yes, there is one checksum after each 4K-size journal page.

Quoted 7 lines

IMO, it's better to just destroy last one or two journal pages to make corrupted journal file. For example, if there are 10 pages in journal, let kworker writebacks [0-7] pages include partial old pages of transaction and journal header, and holds [8-9] pages in memory, so in disk, [8-9] pages were invalid to sqlite due to wrong checksum, and other pages will be judged as valid for recovery. Note that, pages after first invalid page were also be judged as invalid by sqlite.

Hmm, I couldn't find out the exact scenario to corrypt db finally. But, when I took a look at the below document, I could agree that it is possible scenario.

https://www.sqlite.org/howtocorrupt.html

If possible, could you rebase the patches based on the latest dev-test? I want to review the patch seriously.

Thanks,

Quoted 376 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 373 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 48 lines
Quoted 48 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 45 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 42 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 34 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 25 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 22 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 12 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:12:36AM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power
cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in
inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data
won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write,
because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4,

we

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines

could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty
data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case,
we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures,
since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further

db

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data
kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always
trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily

try

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic
write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change

as

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

much as possible.

Quoted 1 line

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering

for

Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 42 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

*rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal
db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there is memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems go into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in startup.

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 21 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 6 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 3 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into
disk, it will destroy db file.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 1 line

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt db?

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken journals.

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db

file

Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 1 line

from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal? Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard to handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and
metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in
atomic-interface.

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal to record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction,

so

Quoted 81 lines
Quoted 81 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines
Quoted 28 lines

in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return two status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction was committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs, I guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write

&

Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 31 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal
power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal file.

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort and recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 5 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will

still

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply

this

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also

for

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation

would

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

be

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow,

how

Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 35 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 1 line

about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of sqlite in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if you were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since this change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 5 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we find any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 11 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 8 lines

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the
current implementation.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and

db

Quoted 73 lines
Quoted 73 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines

- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
---
fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

diff --git a/fs/f2fs/file.c b/fs/f2fs/file.c
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
--- a/fs/f2fs/file.c
+++ b/fs/f2fs/file.c
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file

*filp)

Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 46 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 30 lines
Quoted 29 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines

if (ret)
return ret;

- clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
- clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
- commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+ if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+ clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+ commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+ }
+ if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+ clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+ ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+ if (!ret)
+ ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+ }

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
return ret;
--
2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

author
#18 lore raw

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 69 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

Quoted 51 lines · Chao Yu
Quoted 25 lines
Quoted 25 lines
Quoted 25 lines
Quoted 12 lines
Quoted 12 lines

From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To: Chao Yu
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages

Hi Chao,

I just injected -EIO for one page among two pages in total into database file. Then, I tested valid and invalid journal file to see how sqlite recovers the transaction.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Interestingly, if journal is valid, database file is recovered, as I could see the transaction result even after it shows EIO.
But, in the invalid journal case, somehow it drops database changes.

If journal has valid data in its header and corrupted data in its body, sqlite will recover db file from corrupted journal file, then db file will be corrupted. So what you mean is: after recovery, db file still be fine? or sqlite fails to recover due to drop data in journal since the header of journal is not valid?

In the above case, I think I made broken journal header. At the same time, I broke database file too, but I could see that database file is recovered likewise roll-back. I couldn't find corruption of database.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

Okay, I'll test again by corrupting journal body with valid header.

Hmm, it's quite difficult to produce any corruption case.

I tried the below tests, but in all the cases, sqlite did rollback successfully.

As you saw valid db file at final, I suspect that:
a) db file was recovered by f2fs: after we fail in atomic commit, if checkpoint isn't be triggered to persist partial pages of one transaction, db file will be recovered to last transaction after an abnormal power-cut by f2fs.
b) or db file was recovered by sqlite: sqlite will try to do the revoking after it detects failure of atomic commit. Similarly, db file will be recovered.

Quoted 8 lines

- -EIO for one db write with valid header + valid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with valid header + invalid body in journal
- -EIO for one db write with invalid header + valid body in journal

Note that, I checked both integrity_check and table contents after each tests.

I suspect that journal uses checksums to validate its contents?

Yes, there is one checksum after each 4K-size journal page.

Quoted 7 lines

IMO, it's better to just destroy last one or two journal pages to make corrupted journal file. For example, if there are 10 pages in journal, let kworker writebacks [0-7] pages include partial old pages of transaction and journal header, and holds [8-9] pages in memory, so in disk, [8-9] pages were invalid to sqlite due to wrong checksum, and other pages will be judged as valid for recovery. Note that, pages after first invalid page were also be judged as invalid by sqlite.

Quoted 8 lines

Hmm, I couldn't find out the exact scenario to corrypt db finally. But, when I took a look at the below document, I could agree that it is possible scenario.

https://www.sqlite.org/howtocorrupt.html

If possible, could you rebase the patches based on the latest dev-test? I want to review the patch seriously.

No problem, please help to review following patches. :)

Thanks,

Quoted 418 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 38 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 35 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 32 lines
Quoted 32 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 29 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 26 lines

I'm not sure it was because I just skip second page write of database file tho. (I added random bytes into journal pages.)
I'll break the database file with more random bytes likewise what I did for journal.

Thanks,

Quoted 18 lines · Jaegeuk Kim
Quoted 3 lines · Chao Yu

Hi Jaegeuk,

Any progress on this patch?

Swamped. Will do.

Thanks,

Quoted 9 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 6 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Chao Yu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Jaegeuk Kim
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written

pages

Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines

Hi Jaegeuk,

Quoted 12 lines · Jaegeuk Kim

Hi Chao,

...

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:12:36AM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
1. open db file
2. ioctl start atomic write
3. (write db file) * n
4. ioctl commit atomic write
5. close db file

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power
cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked

in

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these

data

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.

But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile

write,

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step

4,

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

we

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial

dirty

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this

case,

Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.

Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures,
since database should get its error literally.

So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further

db

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

recovery.

IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal

data

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always
trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily

try

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in

atomic

Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

write process.

Yeah, so current design does not fully support atomic writes. IOWs, volatile
writes for journal files should be used together to minimize sqlite change

as

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

much as possible.

But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering

for

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

*rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of

journal

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.

In current android, I've seen that this is not a big concern. Even there

is

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 1 line

memory pressure, f2fs flushes volatile pages.

When I change to redirty all volatile pages in ->writepage, android seems

go

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

into an infinite loop when doing recovery flow of f2fs data partition in

startup.

Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 16 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 3 lines

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode))

	goto redirty_out;

Where did you put this? It doesn't flush at all? Why?

Original place in ->writepage, just remove two other conditions.

To avoid potential random writebacking of dirty page in journal which cause unpredicted corrupting in journal.

Quoted 5 lines

Practically, the peak amount of journal writes depend on how many transactions are processing concurrently.
I mean, in-memory pages are dropped at the end of every transaction. You can check the number of pages through f2fs_stat on your phone.

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

I didn't dig details, but I think there may be a little risk for this design.

Quoted 2 lines

b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal

db into

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

disk, it will destroy db file.

I don't understand. Could you elaborate why journal writes can corrupt

db?

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 6 lines

Normally, we keep pages of journal in memory, but partial page in journal will be write out to device by reclaimer when out of memory. So this journal may have valid data in its log head, but with corrupted data, then after abnormal powe-cut, recovery with this journal before a transaction will destroy db. Right?

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Just think about sqlite without this feature.
Broken journal is pretty normal case for sqlite.

Maybe, if it is caused by bug or design issue of software, no matter db system or filesystem, we should try our best to fix it to avoid generating broken

journals.

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering

db

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

file

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 4 lines

from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.

Do you mean the failure of recovering db with a complete journal?
Why do we have to handle that? That's a database stuff, IMO.

Yes, just list for indicating we will face the same issue which is hard

to

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

handle both in original design and new design, so the inner revoking failure issue would not be a weak point or flaw of new design.

Quoted 2 lines

d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream

and

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 4 lines

metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in
atomic-interface.

Well, do you mean there is no need to recover db after revoking?

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Yes, revoking make the same effect like the recovery of sqlite, so after revoking, recovery is no need.

Logically, it doesn't make sense. If there is a valid journal file, it should redo the previous transaction. No?

As we know, in sqlite, before we commit a transaction, we will use journal

to

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

record original data of pages which will be updated in following transaction,

so

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

in following if a) abnormal power-cut, b) commit error, c) redo command was triggered by user, we will recover db with journal.

Ideally, if we support atomic write interface, in there should always return

two

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

status in atomic write interface: success or fail. If success, transaction

was

Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 10 lines

committed, otherwise, it looks like nothing happened, user will be told transaction was failed. Then, journals in sqlite could no longer be used, eventually no journal, no recovery.

The only thing we should concern is inner failure (e.g. ENOMEM, ENOSPC) of revoking in commit interface since it could destroy db file permanently w/o journal. IMO, some optimization could be done for these cases:
1. ENOMEM: enable retrying or mark accessed flag in page in advance.
2. ENOSPC: preallocate blocks for node blocks and data blocks.

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

These optimizations couldn't guarantee no failure in revoking operation completely, luckily, those are not common cases, and they also happen in sqlite w/o atomic feature.

One more possible proposal is: if we support reflink feature like ocfs2/xfs,

I

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 8 lines

guess we can optimize DB like:
1. reflink db to db.ref
2. do transaction in db.ref
- failed, rm db.ref
- power-cut rm db.ref
3. rename db.ref to db

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

One more case is that user can send a command to abort current transaction, it should be happened before atomic_commit operation, which could easily handle with abort_commit ioctl.

Quoted 2 lines

e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort

write

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

&

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following

abnormal

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

power-cut will leave that data in disk.

Yes, in that case, database should recover corrupted db with its journal

file.

Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 14 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Journal could be corrupted as I descripted in b).

Okay, so what I'm thinking is like this.
It seems there are two corruption cases after journal writes.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

2. error during atomic writes
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and broken db file -> revoking is needed!

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

b. after abort
- valid journal file and broken db file -> recover db (likewise plain sqlite)

Indeed, in the 2.a. case, we need revoking; I guess that's what you mentioned. But, I think, even if revoking is done, we should notify an error to abort

and

Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 23 lines
Quoted 8 lines

recover db by 2.b.

Something like this after successful revoking.

1. power cut during atomic writes
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

Quoted 7 lines

2. error during atomic writes w/ revoking
a. power-cut before abort completion
- broken journal file and clean db file -> give up
- luckily, valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

b. after abort
- valid journal file and clean db file -> recover db

That's right.

Quoted 2 lines

Let me verify these scenarios first. :)

OK. :)

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 5 lines

Thanks,

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we

will

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

still

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply

this

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And

also

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

for

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation

would

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

be

Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines
Quoted 3 lines

protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.

If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery

flow,

Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 2 lines

how

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery

flow?

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Hmm, okay. I believe the current design is fine for sqlite in android.

I believe new design will enhance in memory usage and error handling of

sqlite

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

in android, and hope this can be applied. But, I can understand that if

you

Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line
Quoted 1 line

were considerring about risk control and backward compatibility, since

this

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

change affects all atomic related ioctls.

Quoted 4 lines

For other databases, I can understand that they can use atomic_write without
journal control, which is a sort of stand-alone atomic_write.

It'd better to add a new ioctl for that, but before adding it, can we

find

Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 1 line

any usecase for this feature? (e.g., postgresql, mysql, mariadb, couchdb?)

You mean investigating or we can only start when there is a clear commercial demand ?

Quoted 1 line

Then, I expect that we can define a more appropriate and powerful ioctl.

Agreed :)

Thanks,

Quoted 11 lines

Thanks,

How do you think? :)

Thanks,

But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the
current implementation.

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 6 lines

So simply how about this?

A possible flow would be:
1. write journal data to volatile space
2. write db data to atomic space
3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal

and

Quoted 22 lines
Quoted 22 lines

db

Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines
Quoted 21 lines

- flush/fsync journal data to disk
- drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal

From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write

There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.

1. drop atomic writes
- we don't need to keep any stale db data.

2. write journal data
- we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.

Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim <[email protected]>
---
fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

diff --git a/fs/f2fs/file.c b/fs/f2fs/file.c
index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
--- a/fs/f2fs/file.c
+++ b/fs/f2fs/file.c
@@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct

file

Quoted 18 lines
Quoted 18 lines
Quoted 18 lines
Quoted 18 lines

*filp)

Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines
Quoted 17 lines

if (ret)
return ret;

- clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
- clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
- commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+ if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
+ clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
+ commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
+ }
+ if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
+ clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
+ ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
+ if (!ret)
+ ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
+ }

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 5 lines

mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
return ret;
--
2.6.3

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 5 lines

_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 15 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 4 lines

_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140
_______________________________________________
Linux-f2fs-devel mailing list [email protected]
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel