Which Memory to use on a 715/80?
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From: Harri Haataja [mailto:[email protected]]Quoted 10 lines · Corné
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From: Grant Grundler [mailto:[email protected]]Quoted 3 lines · Derek Engelhaupt
Well, don't think any other manufacturer made memory for the 715 series. I have looked at Dataram and others, but they only seem to have memory for the D,K,N,L, and A class servers.
I thought Kingston *did* (maybe no more).
I recal by head (and might be wrong) to have used pc-based memory modules in a 712/80. There was something with parity (it needs it or it hates it, don't know).
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You usually hear that HP uses similiar form but completely different ram. But that's mostly on 715/735/800, maybe 712 was different. That would be a pleasant surprise.
Mostly you always want parity. I would doubt anything explicitly demanding no parity.
Harri is right here, I was mixing SunSparc and HP-PARisk architectures. The 712 memory does NOT fit (without a hamer).
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Try what the bootloader says if you fit it with pc-based memory modules, that have the same physical lay-out. (edo-ram is a
term that
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comes to mind, try it or it's predecessor).
EDO AFAIK never occurs together with ECC so that's the word to avoid when looking for ram for older workstations ad servers. 36-bit FPM True-parity ECC SIMMs are what work in, for example, DEC Alpha AXPpci, Multia, SGI Indy, Indigo², matching Challenges, IBM RS6000
7006 and other machines of the era and most(?) pc's. No kind of EDO ram
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I might be totaly wrong here, in those days (a former job)
I was using
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both SunSparc stations and HP 712 machines.
Sparcstations mostly use weird rams like JEDEC DIMM's apart from the very old ones that use 36-pin simm's that seem regular.
Sun Sparc ELC and SunSparcClassic (and similar Sparc 4C architecture?) can use the same memory modules as 486-PC's. Those are NOT edo ram as in pentium-pc's, however they do fit... It might not be what Sun tells, it is wat is currently running at home...
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This is what I remember. No guarantees either.
I've tried EDO ram in a SParc Classic but it does not show up. After a short test (15 minutes power on and try to use it) I experienced no damage on both processorboard or memory. Then, again: no guarantees...
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EDO AFAIK never occurs together with ECC so that's the word to avoid when looking for ram for older workstations ad servers.
That's not true, there are some EDO Rams with ECC, 'though rather rare.
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36-bit FPM True-parity ECC SIMMs are what work in, for example, DEC Alpha AXPpci, Multia, SGI Indy, Indigo=B2, matching Challenges, IBM RS6000
7006 and other machines of the era and most(?) pc's. No kind of EDO ram
works.
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I might be totaly wrong here, in those days (a former job)
I was using
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both SunSparc stations and HP 712 machines.
Sparcstations mostly use weird rams like JEDEC DIMM's apart from the very old ones that use 36-pin simm's that seem regular.
Sun Sparc ELC and SunSparcClassic (and similar Sparc 4C architecture?) ca=
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use the same memory modules as 486-PC's. Those are NOT edo ram as in pentium-pc's, however they do fit... It might not be what Sun tells, it i=
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wat is currently running at home...
Sun SPARCstation LX/ZX also use 36bit (true parity) FP-RAM. The ones you find in old 486 will just do fine, if they have ECC.
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This is what I remember. No guarantees either.
I've tried EDO ram in a SParc Classic but it does not show up. After a sh=
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test (15 minutes power on and try to use it) I experienced no damage on b=
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processorboard or memory. Then, again: no guarantees...
EDO Ram is not supported on SPARCstation classics/IPC/IPX (sun4c) and SPARCstation LX/ZX (sun4m). You NEED FastPage mode (aka "normal", pre-EDO) = RAM.
IMHO that's strange, since EDO RAM is supposed to be backwards compatible IIRC. Or was this just a feature of 386/486 Motherboards?
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