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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

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Jorg

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

There is no such test because there's no way to describe "being stable" in formulas.

You might as well like to stick with a kernel that has worked for you for a long enough time. If you don't need the features of 2.4, go with 2.2-latest.

T.

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Hi,

Quoted 9 lines · Tomas Szepe
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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

There is no such test because there's no way to describe "being stable" in formulas.

You might as well like to stick with a kernel that has worked for you for a long enough time. If you don't need the features of 2.4, go with 2.2-latest.

Well, about stability: I'm running 2.4.19-rc1-aa2 for some days now, I didn't yet have any problems. My sparc64, meanwhile, is running 2.5.24-ct1, stable for more than a week of uptime yet.

Regards, Thunder

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

There is no such test because there's no way to describe "being stable" in formulas.

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You might as well like to stick with a kernel that has worked for you for a long enough time. If you don't need the features of 2.4, go with 2.2-latest.

Well, about stability: I'm running 2.4.19-rc1-aa2 for some days now, I didn't yet have any problems. My sparc64, meanwhile, is running 2.5.24-ct1, stable for more than a week of uptime yet.

As for me,

$ arch
i686
$ uname -r
2.4.19-pre10-ac2
$ uptime
  6:51pm  up 36 days, 19:14, 19 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
(config: p2, 2 ide controllers, raid0, 2 network adapters)
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$ arch 
sparc
$ uname -r
2.4.19-pre10
$ uptime
  6:51pm  up 38 days,  8:46,  7 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
(config: smp ss10, scsi, raid0, 1 network adapter)

The latter is with my dynamic-nocache patch included.

T.

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Quoted 16 lines · Tomas Szepe
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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

There is no such test because there's no way to describe "being stable" in formulas.

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You might as well like to stick with a kernel that has worked for you for a long enough time. If you don't need the features of 2.4, go with 2.2-latest.

Well, about stability: I'm running 2.4.19-rc1-aa2 for some days now, I didn't yet have any problems. My sparc64, meanwhile, is running 2.5.24-ct1, stable for more than a week of uptime yet.

As for me,

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$ arch
i686
$ uname -r
2.4.19-pre10-ac2
$ uptime
  6:51pm  up 36 days, 19:14, 19 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
(config: p2, 2 ide controllers, raid0, 2 network adapters)
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Even with an early 2.4.x kernel, you can get good results. I guess it really depends on your load.

[steven@trenda steven]$ uptime
11:29am up 205 days, 23:29, 2 users, load average: 0.35, 0.14, 0.08
[steven@trenda steven]$ uname -a
Linux trenda.esa.lanl.gov 2.4.1 #1 Tue Jan 30 08:03:20 MST 2001 i586 unknown

This is on an elderly Pentium-90 which ran kernel 0.99 for over a year once upon a time.

Steven

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Even with an early 2.4.x kernel, you can get good results. I guess it really depends on your load.

indeed -- i had a box colocated in an ISP's basement running 2.4.2 on an abit bp6, twin 366MHz celerons, that stayed up for nearly 300 days. I think the grand total was 284 days or something ridiculous like that; impressive for both such an old release of the kernel and inherently broken hardware. the isp has since gone out of business due to financial problems, and that's the only reason the machine went down, otherwise i'm certain it would still be up now.

i still maintain that the latest kernel should be the one in use unless it's noted as a keep away kernel *ahem*2.4.11*ahem* -- the newest has got all the latest bug fixes, vm changes, features, etc. however, as always with varying hardware configurations, your mileage may vary

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My computer at work uses 2.4.19-pre10-ac2-preempt (i686) and is up 13 days now. A couple of people are working on it causing high loads with Matlab, VMware etc...

The last one, 2.4.19-pre?-ac?-preempt (sorry, forgot the numbers) ran for a couple of month... so I consider 2.4.19-pres quite stable.

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Hi,

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

There is no such test because there's no way to describe "being stable" in formulas.

You might as well like to stick with a kernel that has worked for you for a long enough time. If you don't need the features of 2.4, go with 2.2-latest.

Well, about stability: I'm running 2.4.19-rc1-aa2 for some days now, I didn't yet have any problems. My sparc64, meanwhile, is running 2.5.24-ct1, stable for more than a week of uptime yet.

Regards, Thunder

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Quoted 7 lines · Juergen Sawinski

My computer at work uses 2.4.19-pre10-ac2-preempt (i686) and is up 13 days now. A couple of people are working on it causing high loads with Matlab, VMware etc...

The last one, 2.4.19-pre?-ac?-preempt (sorry, forgot the numbers) ran for a couple of month... so I consider 2.4.19-pres quite stable.

2.4.18 doesn't have any 'crashing' bugs in normal use. One of my servers has been running this for 210 days. It does a lot of network- interface stuff (samba, etc.) plus nightly back-ups so it's used a lot.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson

Penguin : Linux version 2.4.18 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).

Windows-2000/Professional isn't.

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Quoted 2 lines · Richard B. Johnson

2.4.18 doesn't have any 'crashing' bugs in normal use. One of my
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Perhaps in your "normal use"...

If you mount SMB shares Oopses appear quite frequently.

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Cheers,
Dick Johnson

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2.4.18 doesn't have any 'crashing' bugs in normal use. One of my
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Perhaps in your "normal use"...

If you mount SMB shares Oopses appear quite frequently.

2.4.18 oopses if the share has characters that are not in your nls table. Patched and fixed for 2.4.19 (unless you are talking about some other oops?)

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Perhaps in your "normal use"...

If you mount SMB shares Oopses appear quite frequently.

2.4.18 oopses if the share has characters that are not in your nls table. Patched and fixed for 2.4.19 (unless you are talking about some other oops?)

The Oopses I saw on my machine were fixed by 00-smbfs-2.4.18-codepage.patch. I saw an Oops by someone else that wasn't fixed by this patch but it seems it was fixed by something else in 2.4.19-pre.

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

That's a pretty broad statement to make considering the wide range of hardware and uses. Certainly there are many kernels that you could declare "unstable" (at least wrt certain thing, vm, ide, etc) without too much argument though.

If you're just looking for a good repository of Linux tests and testing information, take a look at the Linux Test Project at
http://ltp.sourceforge.net

Thanks,
Paul Larson

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I'm looking at a 285 day uptime on 2.2.14 - depends what you're doing with the machine, really.

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

If you run SMP and high load, you want to go with a recent -ac kernel. Stable is load dependent, and to some degree hardware dependent as well.

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Quoted 4 lines · Bill Davidsen

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, JorgP wrote:

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Has anyone conducted any tests to determine what is the most stable (as in reliable) kernel available?

If you run SMP and high load, you want to go with a recent -ac kernel. Stable is load dependent, and to some degree hardware dependent as well.

I have solved a good many problems on
production servers by running -aa kernels
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Joe