New: Volume not remembered.
Quoted 7 lines · Martin J. Bligh
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Yes, but that's a user space problem too. Nothing prevents your distribution to crank up the volume to 100% also on a first-time installation.
100% would be stupid too. If the distro can pick a reasonable value, the kernel can too. Thus the argument "push the problem into userspace" doesn't do anything for me.
100% isn't good. F.ex. emu10k1 cards would lead to more bugreports since you get clipping with that volume.
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The kernel should pick a value that's safe in all cases. And this is zero. Don't forget that there can be several seconds between the driver's initialization and the moment when the user-space utility gets to change the settings.
So if people want 0 volume for some reason, they can set *that* in userspace. Windows can manage to do this without cocking it up. I don't see why we can't achieve it.
Which is stupid, since you need it zero before it can get to userspace. (see the examples) And i know windows users who hates windows soundcontrol since it plays a lame sound at boot up and you can't lower the volume there (yes, easy workaround, but the same thing).
But, imho:
PCM should not be 0, Setting main volume to 0 is good, but seeing the
common user getting there might be a problem.
Imagine:
Joe User installs Joe-Distro and starts xmms, now, with the default config you change the 'master' volume but pcm is still 0. This is something that will/could/might/etc cause reports like that.
Problem is, emu10k1 is good somewhere on the lines of 90% when it comes to pcm... I dunno if other cards has simular issues.
Change PCM (and simular) if anything, changing master will only cause problems, as seen.
CC, since I'm not on this ml.
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