use-once-cleanup testing
Hi folks,
Rik's use-once cleanup patch (1) gets rid of a nasty problem. The use-once logic does not work for mmaped() files, due to the questionable assumption that any referenced pages of such files should be held in memory:
1 - http://lwn.net/Articles/134387/
static int shrink_list(struct list_head *page_list, struct scan_control *sc) {
...
referenced = page_referenced(page, 1);
/* In active use or really unfreeable? Activate it. */
if (referenced && page_mapping_inuse(page))
goto activate_locked;The page activation scheme relies on mark_page_accessed() (exported function) to do the list move itself, which is the only way for in-cache non mapped pages to be promoted to the active list.
Rik's patch instead only sets the referenced bit at mark_page_accessed(), changing the use-once logic to work by means of a newly created PG_new flag. The flag, set at add_to_pagecache() time, gives pages a second round on the inactive list in case they get referenced. Page activation is then performed if the page is re-referenced.
Another clear advantage of not doing the list move at mark_page_accessed() time is decreased zone->lru_lock contention and cache thrashing in general (profiling on SMP machines would be interesting).
A possibly negative side-effect of PG_new, already mentioned by Nikita in this list, is that used-once pages lurk around longer in cache, which can slowdown particular workloads (it should not be hard to create such loads).
However, the ongoing non-resident book keeping implementation makes it possible to completly get rid of "second chance" behaviour: re-accessed evicted pages are automatically promoted to the active list.
For example this is a real scenario where use-once mmap() is performed:
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0109.2/0078.html
Patch being used for the tests is:
http://programming.kicks-ass.net/kernel-patches/page-replace/2.6.16-rc1/use_once-cleanup.patch
And here are results of larger than RAM sequential access with mmap():
2.6-git-jan-12:
Command being timed: "iozone -B -s 143360 -i 1 -i 1 -i 1 -i 1 -w"
Percent of CPU this job got: 6%
Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 0:34.742.6-git-jan-12+useonce:
Command being timed: "iozone -B -s 143360 -i 1 -i 1 -i 1 -i 1 -w"
Percent of CPU this job got: 13%
Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 0:16.22And a few graphs of the active/inactive sizes with both read and mmap mode, with the vanilla and use-once patched kernels:
http://hera.kernel.org/~marcelo/mm/iozone_useonce/iozone_useonce.html
Its possible to note that even using read() the vanilla VM moves used-once pages to the active list (ie. the logic is not working as expected).
I would vote for inclusion of the first version of use-once-cleanup (without the arguable refill_inactive_zone() page_referenced change) into -mm.
Comments?
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Quoted 21 lines · Marcelo Tosatti
Hi folks,
Rik's use-once cleanup patch (1) gets rid of a nasty problem. The use-once logic does not work for
mmaped()files, due to the questionable assumption that any referenced pages of such files should be held in memory:1 - http://lwn.net/Articles/134387/
static int
shrink_list(struct list_head *page_list, struct scan_control *sc){
...referenced = page_referenced(page, 1); /* In active use or really unfreeable? Activate it. */ if (referenced && page_mapping_inuse(page)) goto activate_locked;The page activation scheme relies on
mark_page_accessed()(exported function) to do the list move itself, which is the only way for in-cache non mapped pages to be promoted to the active list.
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Rik's patch instead only sets the referenced bit at
mark_page_accessed(), changing the use-once logic to work by means of a newly createdPG_newflag. The flag, set atadd_to_pagecache()time, gives pages a second round on the inactive list in case they get referenced. Page activation is then performed if the page is re-referenced.
This is what I've done too (though I prefer a PG_useonce flag which gets set after they're first seen referenced).
I think Wu may also be doing something like it for adaptive readahead.
Basically: it has been reinvented so many times that it *has* to be a good idea ;)
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Another clear advantage of not doing the list move at
mark_page_accessed()
time is decreasedzone->lru_lockcontention and cache thrashing in general (profiling on SMP machines would be interesting).
It also allows one to get rid of the dirty hacks in mark_page_accessed callers and means read() based useonce actually works properly in cases where userspace isn't working in blocks of PAGE_SIZE (rsync I think was one that did this, with fairly horrible results).
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A possibly negative side-effect of
PG_new, already mentioned by Nikita in this list, is that used-once pages lurk around longer in cache, which can slowdown particular workloads (it should not be hard to create such loads).
Yes, I found that also doing use-once on mapped pages caused fairly huge slowdowns in some cases. File IO could much more easily cause X and its applications to get swapped out.
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However, the ongoing non-resident book keeping implementation makes it possible to completly get rid of "second chance" behaviour: re-accessed evicted pages are automatically promoted to the active list.
Possibly. I think moving unmapped use-once over to PG_useonce first, and tidying the weird warts and special cases (that don't make sense) from vmscan is a good first step.
Unfortunately I don't think Andrew wants a bar of any of it. Nor would a crazy rewrite-pagereclaim tree really get any sort of testing at all, realistically :(
Ideas?
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Hi Nick,
Quoted 34 lines · Nick Piggin
Quoted 22 lines · Marcelo Tosatti
Hi folks,
Rik's use-once cleanup patch (1) gets rid of a nasty problem. The use-once logic does not work for
mmaped()files, due to the questionable assumption that any referenced pages of such files should be held in memory:1 - http://lwn.net/Articles/134387/
static int
shrink_list(struct list_head *page_list, struct scan_control *sc)
{
...referenced = page_referenced(page, 1); /* In active use or really unfreeable? Activate it. */ if (referenced && page_mapping_inuse(page)) goto activate_locked;The page activation scheme relies on
mark_page_accessed()(exported function) to do the list move itself, which is the only way for in-cache non mapped pages to be promoted to the active list.Quoted 8 lines
Rik's patch instead only sets the referenced bit at
mark_page_accessed(), changing the use-once logic to work by means of a newly createdPG_newflag. The flag, set atadd_to_pagecache()time, gives pages a second round on the inactive list in case they get referenced. Page activation is then performed if the page is re-referenced.
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This is what I've done too (though I prefer a
PG_useonceflag which gets set after they're first seen referenced).I think Wu may also be doing something like it for adaptive readahead.
Basically: it has been reinvented so many times that it *has* to be a good idea ;)
For most mixed loads, think so. But not for all certainly.
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Another clear advantage of not doing the list move at
mark_page_accessed()time is decreasedzone->lru_lockcontention and cache thrashing in general (profiling on SMP machines would be interesting).It also allows one to get rid of the dirty hacks in
mark_page_accessedcallers and meansread()based useonce actually works properly in cases where userspace isn't working in blocks ofPAGE_SIZE(rsync I think was one that did this, with fairly horrible results).Quoted 6 lines
A possibly negative side-effect of
PG_new, already mentioned by Nikita in this list, is that used-once pages lurk around longer in cache, which can slowdown particular workloads (it should not be hard to create such loads).Yes, I found that also doing use-once on mapped pages caused fairly huge slowdowns in some cases. File IO could much more easily cause X and its applications to get swapped out.
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However, the ongoing non-resident book keeping implementation makes it possible to completly get rid of "second chance" behaviour: re-accessed evicted pages are automatically promoted to the active list.
Possibly. I think moving unmapped use-once over to
PG_useoncefirst, and tidying the weird warts and special cases (that don't make sense) from vmscan is a good first step.
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Unfortunately I don't think Andrew wants a bar of any of it. Nor would a crazy rewrite-pagereclaim tree really get any sort of testing at all, realistically :(
Ideas?
I think that creating a page replacement interface used by the VM to hide the details of the reclaim specifics is an important step forward, allowing co-existance of different replacement policies.
It opens up many possibilities.
Peter started the abstraction of the page reclaim code for his CLOCK-Pro implementation, and I've been working with him to improve it.
The current code is logically glued together, there is no distiction between reclaim cache interface and LRU: they are the same.
Please take a look at
http://programming.kicks-ass.net/kernel-patches/page-replace/2.6.16-rc1/page-replace-documentation.patch
and the related patches in that directory.
Its basically separating the actions invoked by generic VM:
- book keeping of page information (insertion, deletion, reference, and so on).
- selection of pagecache candidates for eviction
And:
- balancing between slab/pagecache eviction
- page eviction
- page writeout
IMO they should all be separate, with shared helpers functions, as the document and patches suggest.
The current set makes the traditional LRU 2-queue and CLOCK-Pro policies co-exist (at the very moment it contains several patches which change behaviour such as Rik's PG_new, Wu's zone scanning balancing, but they are not necessarily related to this).
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Quoted 4 lines · Nick Piggin
Unfortunately I don't think Andrew wants a bar of any of it. Nor would a crazy rewrite-pagereclaim tree really get any sort of testing at all, realistically :(
Both HP and SGI have shown interrest in getting these patches in shape and testing them, so I do think there is quite some interrest in them.
I admit that there is still a lot of work to do, like getting the CART policies into the new tree and NUMAfying the CLOCK-Pro and CART policies. And ofcourse rigourous testing.
Andrew, what would you need on top of that to start being interrested?
Kind regards,
PeterZ
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Quoted 3 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Andrew, what would you need on top of that to start being interrested?
A demonstration that the code will make sufficient improvement to justify its inclusion, naturally ;)
Speedups should outweigh the slowdowns, no really bad corner cases.
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Quoted 1 line · Andrew Morton
Speedups should outweigh the slowdowns, no really bad corner cases.
When it comes to corner cases, clock-pro gets my vote over any of the alternative algorithms.
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Quoted 3 lines · Nick Piggin
Yes, I found that also doing use-once on mapped pages caused fairly huge slowdowns in some cases. File IO could much more easily cause X and its applications to get swapped out.
We can get rid of that effect easily by adding reclaim_mapped logic to the inactive list scan. The zone previous_priority will keep track of what to do when we start a scan...
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Possibly. I think moving unmapped use-once over to
PG_useoncefirst, and tidying the weird warts and special cases (that don't make sense) from vmscan is a good first step.
Agreed, cleaning up the code first will make it a lot easier to make improvements bit by bit.
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