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GNOME bluez applet request

Bluez-users Reinout van Schouwen 2 participants 6 messages Sep 24, 2006 – Sep 25, 2006 Bluetooth drivers

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Hello,

As part of the Bluetooth support in Mandriva Linux 2007, which will be released shortly, the GNOME bluez applet is required. "Applet" is a bit of a misnomer here, because the icon settles in the notification area. Once activated, it stays there and the only thing it does is showing discoverability status changes.

I would like to point out that it goes against the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines to display a notification icon perpetually.[1] The reasoning behind this is that the notification area is designed to inform the user of important events, and when lots of notification icons are displayed at the same time, this waters down the primary function of the notification area.

In fact there is another bluetooth-related icon in my notification area that spends 99,9% of its time doing nothing, for which I've filed a bug already.[2] Is there a bug tracker for bluez where I could file a request to only display the notification icon for important events?

Thanks for listening!

[1]
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/desktop-notification-area.html
[2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150046

regards,

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Hi Reinout,

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As part of the Bluetooth support in Mandriva Linux 2007, which will be released shortly, the GNOME bluez applet is required. "Applet" is a bit of a misnomer here, because the icon settles in the notification area. Once activated, it stays there and the only thing it does is showing discoverability status changes.

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I would like to point out that it goes against the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines to display a notification icon perpetually.[1] The reasoning behind this is that the notification area is designed to inform the user of important events, and when lots of notification icons are displayed at the same time, this waters down the primary function of the notification area.

the CVS version of bluez-gnome has an option (compile time) to hide the icon, when no adapter is attached. This should become a GConf option, but it hasn't been integrated yet. Feel free to send patches.

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In fact there is another bluetooth-related icon in my notification area that spends 99,9% of its time doing nothing, for which I've filed a bug already.[2] Is there a bug tracker for bluez where I could file a request to only display the notification icon for important events?

The mailing list is the correct of addressing this.

Regards

Marcel

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Hi Marcel,

Op zondag 24-09-2006 om 18:55 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marcel Holtmann:

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the CVS version of bluez-gnome has an option (compile time) to hide the icon, when no adapter is attached. This should become a GConf option, but it hasn't been integrated yet.

Thanks for your reply. However you didn't address the crucial point of my request, that is that the icon should be hidden always, whether an adapter is attached or not, *except* when an event occurs that the user should be notified of.

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Feel free to send patches.

If bluez were written in Java I probably would, however I have no hope of producing C patches for this in the forseeable future.

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The mailing list is the correct of addressing this.

OK then :)

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Hi Reinout,

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the CVS version of bluez-gnome has an option (compile time) to hide the icon, when no adapter is attached. This should become a GConf option, but it hasn't been integrated yet.

Thanks for your reply. However you didn't address the crucial point of my request, that is that the icon should be hidden always, whether an adapter is attached or not, *except* when an event occurs that the user should be notified of.

this is not my understanding of it. I might add such an option at some point, but right now, I won't bother.

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Hi Marcel,

Op zondag 24-09-2006 om 23:33 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marcel Holtmann:

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this is not my understanding of it. I might add such an option at some point, but right now, I won't bother.

That's a bit disappointing to hear. Please realize that every single icon on the notification area that isn't notifying the user of anything, is diluting the usability of the desktop.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Hi Reinout,

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this is not my understanding of it. I might add such an option at some point, but right now, I won't bother.

That's a bit disappointing to hear. Please realize that every single icon on the notification area that isn't notifying the user of anything, is diluting the usability of the desktop.

I am happy to accept patches, but for now I am not going to write this by myself. There is more important stuff that needs to be done first.

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