new ARAnyM with better FPU
Hello there,
I think you might be interested in the new ARAnyM release. The version 0.9.12 comes with a brand new FPU emulation core that should be precise because it's using the libmpfr, thanks to Andreas.
Andreas also fixed CAS and CAS2 instructions that were behaving incorrectly in some cases.
Both these fixes could help running the Linux-m68k kernel and the Debian-68k system more stable on the ARAnyM.
I have prepared some binary packages (available for download now) and ARAnyM Debian maintainer is working on updating the package in Debian sid as well.
Enjoy,
Petr
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Thorsten Glaser píše v St 21. 03. 2012 v 09:07 +0000:
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ARAnyM Debian maintainer is working on updating the package in Debian sid as well.
OK, great. I’ll wait for that, upgrade the box with sid on it and will backport to *shudder* hardy
Well, beware: Ubuntu < 10.10 (including the 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx) does not have the necessary libmpfr3+. That also means that the Ubuntu Lucid packages I have prepared at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.12/
do NOT contain the new MPFR based FPU core made by Andreas.
So if you really want to try out the new ARAnyM FPU on your Hardy make sure you'll backport libmpfr3+ there first.
Petr
Hi Petr,
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Thorsten Glaser píše v St 21. 03. 2012 v 09:07 +0000:
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ARAnyM Debian maintainer is working on updating the package in Debian sid as well.
OK, great. I’ll wait for that, upgrade the box with sid on it and will backport to *shudder* hardy
Well, beware: Ubuntu < 10.10 (including the 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx) does not have the necessary libmpfr3+. That also means that the Ubuntu Lucid packages I have prepared at
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.12/
do NOT contain the new MPFR based FPU core made by Andreas.
So if you really want to try out the new ARAnyM FPU on your Hardy make sure you'll backport libmpfr3+ there first.
Thanks!
I've just installed the binary for Lucid, and now cp/mv/du from coreutils work again (they failed with out-of-memory errors under Ubuntu's 0.9.9). I guess that was due to the CAS/CAS2 bugs?
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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Geert Uytterhoeven píše v Wed 21. 03. 2012 v 11:08 +0100:
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Well, beware: Ubuntu < 10.10 (including the 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx) does not have the necessary libmpfr3+. That also means that the Ubuntu Lucid packages I have prepared at
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do NOT contain the new MPFR based FPU core made by Andreas.
So if you really want to try out the new ARAnyM FPU on your Hardy make sure you'll backport libmpfr3+ there first.
I've just installed the binary for Lucid, and now cp/mv/du from coreutils work again (they failed with out-of-memory errors under Ubuntu's 0.9.9). I guess that was due to the CAS/CAS2 bugs?
Most probably.
I am wondering if it is worth backporting the libmpfr and making new ARAnyM packages for 10.04 when the 12.04 is to be released in a month.
Petr
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I am wondering if it is worth backporting the libmpfr and making new ARAnyM packages for 10.04 when the 12.04 is to be released in a month.
Indeed, next month we'll all be forced into the new GUI generation...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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Geert Uytterhoeven píše v Wed 21. 03. 2012 v 16:08 +0100:
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I am wondering if it is worth backporting the libmpfr and making new ARAnyM packages for 10.04 when the 12.04 is to be released in a month.
Indeed, next month we'll all be forced into the new GUI generation...
Actually we won't be forced into that. First, the 10.04 LTS is supported till April next year so people can stay on it for another year. That's why I was wondering whether to backport the libmpfr or not.
And second, we have several possibilities of not getting United :-) There's the Classic mode of Gnome Shell that is basically good old Gnome 2 (just rewritten to use newer libraries), then the new Gnome Shell with some particular extensions can be used almost like a normal desktop (Linus and other reported) and at last but not least, the
http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ is maturing quickly!
Petr
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Indeed, next month we'll all be forced into the new GUI generation...
Actually we won't be forced into that. First, the 10.04 LTS is supported
Uhm guys – use Debian?
There’s also things like IceWM, evilwm and others. No need to go all GUI on us poor unsuspecting textmode people.
But thanks for the reminder about mpfr. Will do that. Or try to push and accelerate my move from hardy to testing.
bye,
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ARAnyM 0.9.13 with MPFR even for Lucid
In reply to Geert UytterhoevenGeert Uytterhoeven píše v St 21. 03. 2012 v 16:08 +0100:
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I am wondering if it is worth backporting the libmpfr and making new ARAnyM packages for 10.04 when the 12.04 is to be released in a month.
Indeed, next month we'll all be forced into the new GUI generation...
I couldn't stand the feeling that Geert cannot enjoy new Andreas' MPFR FPU emulation in ARAnyM so I have backported the libmpfr4 for Lucid:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.13/lucid_mpfr4/
And I have also released a new version of ARAnyM that includes another fix that Andreas made two days ago:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.13/
Enjoy :-)
Petr
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Petr Stehlik dixit:
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I couldn't stand the feeling that Geert cannot enjoy new Andreas' MPFR FPU emulation in ARAnyM so I have backported the libmpfr4 for Lucid:
I’ve built mpfr4 for hardy and am now fighting with the PPA. Should be there soon. I renamed the -dev package into libmpfr4-dev to have this not be picked up by ANYTHING else in the system.
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And I have also released a new version of ARAnyM that includes another fix that Andreas made two days ago:
Mh. I’ll backport the src:aranym from sid once its maintainer (Cc’d) has made the upload. Will post here then. (In the hope it doesn’t use too many “new Debian” features…)
My other hosts use lenny (let’s just keep that alone, or maybe I take my hardy source packages) and sid (so no issue once Antonin has uploaded).
bye,
//mirabilos
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I couldn't stand the feeling that Geert cannot enjoy new Andreas' MPFR FPU emulation in ARAnyM so I have backported the libmpfr4 for Lucid:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.13/lucid_mpfr4/
And I have also released a new version of ARAnyM that includes another fix that Andreas made two days ago:
Thanks! You're too kind ;-)
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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Re: ARAnyM 0.9.13 with MPFR even for Lucid
Geert Uytterhoeven dixit:
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I couldn't stand the feeling that Geert cannot enjoy new Andreas' MPFR FPU emulation in ARAnyM so I have backported the libmpfr4 for Lucid:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.13/lucid_mpfr4/
Thanks! You're too kind ;-)
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.ports.68k/10307
Since this lucid thing-y seems to get some use… here you are:
a forwardport of a backport of the official Debian sid mpfr4 and aranym packages ;-)
https://launchpad.net/~mirabilos/+archive/wtf-forwardports/+sourcepub/2438038/+listing-archive-extra
(just the stuff I backported to hardy, rebuilt for lucid)
https://launchpad.net/~mirabilos/+archive/wtf-forwardports/+sourcepub/2438041/+listing-archive-extra
(re-enabled USB support, as libusb-1.0 is in lucid but not hardy)
Enjoy!
//mirabilos
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Hi Petr,
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Geert Uytterhoeven píše v Wed 21. 03. 2012 v 11:08 +0100:
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I've just installed the binary for Lucid, and now cp/mv/du from coreutils work again (they failed with out-of-memory errors under Ubuntu's 0.9.9). I guess that was due to the CAS/CAS2 bugs?
Most probably.
Bad news:
aranym_0.9.12-1.lucid_amd64.deb: du works aranym_0.9.13-1.lucid.mpfr4_amd64.deb: du fails with "memory exhausted", just like in 0.9.9.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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Geert Uytterhoeven píše v Po 26. 03. 2012 v 22:41 +0200:
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Bad news:
aranym_0.9.12-1.lucid_amd64.deb: du works aranym_0.9.13-1.lucid.mpfr4_amd64.deb: du fails with "memory exhausted", just like in 0.9.9.
Hmm. The difference between those two particular packages is that the latter has the new MPFR FPU that should have been better than the one in previous versions (otherwise Andreas wouldn't bother implementing it, I believe).
Could you please try building the http://packages.debian.org/sid/aranym
that contains a patch for another post-release FPU bugfix? If that doesn't help then feel free to stay with 0.9.12 as it contains the CPU CAS fixes and also the proven FPU.
Andreas is reading this for sure so he might have a clue about the failing 'du' with MPFR FPU emulation as well.
Petr
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aranym_0.9.13-1.lucid.mpfr4_amd64.deb: du fails with "memory exhausted", just like in 0.9.9.
Stupid portability bug, fixed now.
Andreas.
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Andreas Schwab píše v Út 27. 03. 2012 v 17:24 +0200:
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aranym_0.9.13-1.lucid.mpfr4_amd64.deb: du fails with "memory exhausted", just like in 0.9.9.
Stupid portability bug, fixed now.
The fix is in aranym_0.9.13-1.1 packages (Debian and Ubuntu):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aranym/files/aranym/0.9.13/
Petr
Petr Stehlik dixit:
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I have prepared some binary packages (available for download now) and ARAnyM Debian maintainer is working on updating the package in Debian sid as well.
I’ve NMU’d the package in Debian so it’s finally working, and backported that¹ to Kubuntu Hardy, using my² backported mpfr4 (co-installable, does not touch anything else in the system, thus safe to use).
① https://launchpad.net/~mirabilos/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2438011/+listing-archive-extra
② https://launchpad.net/~mirabilos/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2323556/+listing-archive-extra
Highlights:
Zlib ................................... : yes
Enjoy!
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