parisc-linux.org losing hw hosting after this month
Hi,
I've been informed that the subnet on which HP is hosting
parisc-linux.org is going away next month. They have offered to ship the hardware somewhere if it continues to be needed.
Quoted 4 lines · dann frazier
Hi,
I've been informed that the subnet on which HP is hosting
parisc-linux.org is going away next month. They have offered to ship the hardware somewhere if it continues to be needed.
We'll probably end up distributing to people. Do they have a list of what it is (and approximate size for those wanting the N class)?
Thanks,
James
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Hi,
I've been informed that the subnet on which HP is hosting parisc-linux.org is going away next month. They have offered to ship the hardware somewhere if it continues to be needed.We'll probably end up distributing to people. Do they have a list of what it is (and approximate size for those wanting the N class)?
Is there any possibility that HP might continue to host parisc-linux.org on some other subnet/machine?
Dave
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Hi,
I've been informed that the subnet on which HP is hosting parisc-linux.org is going away next month. They have offered to ship the hardware somewhere if it continues to be needed.
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We'll probably end up distributing to people. Do they have a list of what it is (and approximate size for those wanting the N class)?
Is there any possibility that HP might continue to host parisc-linux.org on some other subnet/machine?
I've asked before if they had other systems/VMs they could host it on and the answer was no. I'll ask again to make sure that hasn't changed for some reason, but I'd recommend looking for other options in the meantime. Perhaps osuosl.org?
Just to confirm Dan's comment, HPIT is taking ownership of just about everything, so it's harder to do g-jobs like this. Even our internal labs are being moved to isolated subnets, for better or worse. A University or co-lo system is probably going to have better throughput than our current R&D edge compartments.
best,
-craig
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I've asked before if they had other systems/VMs they could host it on and the answer was no. I'll ask again to make sure that hasn't changed for some reason, but I'd recommend looking for other options in the meantime. Perhaps osuosl.org?
Quoted 5 lines · Craig Lamparter (ISS Linux)
Just to confirm Dan's comment, HPIT is taking ownership of just about everything, so it's harder to do g-jobs like this. Even our internal labs are being moved to isolated subnets, for better or worse. A University or co-lo system is probably going to have better throughput than our current R&D edge compartments.
Just as an update:
I opened a "hosting request ticket" at osuosl.org on 11/05/2013 for the A500. No answer yet, but they mentioned that it may take some time (up to a week?).
Then, what will happen to to domain name parisc-linux.org ? According to whois, it belongs to HP/Ft.Collins. Will HP keep this domain name?
Otherwise Thibaut Varene (CC'ed) offered to take over the domain and take care of it at least for a year.
Who would be a contact for such a transition?
Helge
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Quoted 5 lines · Craig Lamparter (ISS Linux)
Just to confirm Dan's comment, HPIT is taking ownership of just about everything, so it's harder to do g-jobs like this. Even our internal labs are being moved to isolated subnets, for better or worse. A University or co-lo system is probably going to have better throughput than our current R&D edge compartments.
Just as an update:
I opened a "hosting request ticket" at osuosl.org on 11/05/2013 for the A500. No answer yet, but they mentioned that it may take some time (up to a week?).
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Then, what will happen to to domain name parisc-linux.org ? According to whois, it belongs to HP/Ft.Collins. Will HP keep this domain name?
Otherwise Thibaut Varene (CC'ed) offered to take over the domain and take care of it at least for a year.
Who would be a contact for such a transition?
Taggart: is that you?
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Taggart: is that you?
Hey whadda know it is! And somehow my brain remembered the login and password despite not having recorded it somewhere.
I have unlocked the domain and I'll keep an eye out for requests asking me to approve the transfer to Thibaut.
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Le 9 nov. 2013 =E0 09:20, Matt Taggart <[email protected]> a =E9crit :
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dann frazier writes:
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to approve the transfer to Thibaut.
Turns out it=92s not gonna be that easy. I suspect here=92s why:
Expiration Date:09-Aug-2014 23:07:58 UTC
Until then, it=92s presumably impossible to move the domain to a new ow= ner. I=92ve just tried with my registrar of choice (ovh.com) and it say= s that I can only move the domain there *without* changing ownership=85
As a temporary workaround, I could give you the IP addresses of my DNS = servers (once I=92ve readied them for handling p-l.o, which, to begin w= ith, means I have to copy the existing zone), which would for all pract= ical purposes give me control over the domain until it can be properly = moved next summer (which must not be forgotten, especially now that you= =92ve unlocked the domain).
What do you think?
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Until then, it's presumably impossible to move the domain to a new owner. I've just tried with my registrar of choice (ovh.com) and it says that I can only move the domain there *without* changing ownersh=
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just let me know. taggart@OFTC
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just let me know. taggart@OFTC
Just as a side-note:
Could we let it run as-is as long as possible? At least until the A500 = is really turned off?
Dave & me have the parisc-linux debian dpkg repository still on the A50= 0 which is still in=20
heavy use until the debian-ports repository is mostly filled...
Helge
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Could we let it run as-is as long as possible? At least until the =20 A500 is really turned off?Dave & me have the parisc-linux debian dpkg repository still on the =20 A500 which is still in
heavy use until the debian-ports repository is mostly filled...
I want to setup a personal mirror while it's still on to facilitate =20 the transition to ports.
Dave
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Ok, but will you make your mirror visible to the world via http/ftp =20 or will you keep it internal for you privately?
I wasn't planning to make it visible because my total uploads and =20 downloads are limited by my ISP.
Dave
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Le 9 nov. 2013 =E0 21:25, Helge Deller <[email protected]> a =E9crit :
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HTH
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Hi Thibaut,
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for everyone, situation unchanged, until the A500 is powered off, at which point we can devise a new setup. As I told you, my primary concern is with email, so I=92ll have that covered :)
That's good!
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as FTP or GIT are not possible (only HTTP).
HTTP would be absolutely fine. Actually, this is what we currently use.
I just checked the archive. It's currently - including temporary boot-d= isk-images - 19GB.
I don't think it will grow a lot during the next weeks/months, and give= n the
fact that there aren't so many parisc-users, the load will probably not be high.
Helge
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I might be able to *temporarily* (emphasis on that word) host it, provided it=92s not =AB too big =BB, but as I said, specific protoco=
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as FTP or GIT are not possible (only HTTP).
HTTP would be absolutely fine. Actually, this is what we currently =20 use.
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I just checked the archive. It's currently - including temporary =20 boot-disk-images - 19GB.
I don't think it will grow a lot during the next weeks/months, and =20 given the
fact that there aren't so many parisc-users, the load will probably =20 not
be high.
I think we should freeze the repository in its current state.
I'm no longer building "all" packages, just "hppa" packages. This is =20 what's needed
for upload to ports. Some "hppa" packages depend on a specific =20 version of an "all"
package, so continuing to upload will break dependencies.
Dave
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Quoted 8 lines · Helge Deller
Hi Thibaut,
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for everyone, situation unchanged, until the A500 is powered off, at which point we can devise a new setup. As I told you, my primary concern is with email, so I=92ll have that covered :)
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That's good!
Quick update: the DNS transition is done, I now control the domain's DN= S. As usual, direct complaints to /dev/null if anything breaks ;-)
That aside, regarding my upcoming plans: I'm fine with hosting followin= g websites:
- www (as far as the main static website is concerned - NO HOMEDIRs - s= ince I already host a mirror, it's really easy)
- wiki (already hosted by me, no change)
- ftp (web access only, provided the debian-ports part of the archive d= oesn't grow much beyond 20G, and for as short a period of time as can b= e achieved.)
hwdb will have to go, I just cba moving it and dealing with potential P= HP exploits ;P
cvs will have to go too, if someone wants to archive it for posterity (= it's about 8.4G), now would be a good time.
Regarding email, my plan is to setup a "forward-only" MTA. As far as I = can tell, most active users of p-l.o already have a .forward setup, wit= h the notable exception of willy (explicitly CC'd here). Of course, if = someone wants to step up and handle p-l.o email on their own, they're w= elcome to raise a hand ;)
NB: the people having bits of importance left in their homedir on p-l.o=
should probably think about backing them up ASAP, these won't be moved= over.
Since the domain expires on August 2014, I believe this gives us suffic= ient time to evaluate "what to do next". As far as *I* am concerned, I = plan to have transitioned all references to my p-l.o email address (mos= tly in source code) by then, meaning that *I* will probably not see a n= eed to keep the domain going beyond that point. I would like to explici= tly point out here that I commit myself to providing hosting facilities=
as explained above UNTIL THEN, after which I reserve the right to "mov=
e on".
HINT HINT HINT: if someone wants to keep p-l.o going after that point, = they'll have to keep that deadline in mind.
I am offering a transition as the A500 is being decommissioned, but I a= m NOT offering a permanent solution.
=46inally, do we have an exact date as to when the A500 will be powered=
down?
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Thibaut> Quick update: the DNS transition is done, I now control the Thibaut> domain's DNS. As usual, direct complaints to /dev/null if Thibaut> anything breaks ;-)
Do you want me to continue to be secondary name server and MX or should I turn it off?
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Quick update: the DNS transition is done, I now control the domain's DNS. As usual, direct complaints to
/dev/nullif anything breaks ;-)
Very good.
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That aside, regarding my upcoming plans: I'm fine with hosting following websites: - www (as far as the main static website is concerned - NO HOMEDIRs - since I already host a mirror, it's really easy) - wiki (already hosted by me, no change) - ftp (web access only, provided the debian-ports part of the archive doesn't grow much beyond 20G, and for as short a period of time as can be achieved.)
Ok.
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hwdb will have to go, I just cba moving it and dealing with potential PHP exploits ;P cvs will have to go too, if someone wants to archive it for posterity (it's about 8.4G), now would be a good time.
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Regarding email, my plan is to setup a "forward-only" MTA. As far as I can tell, most active users of p-l.o already have a .forward setup, with the notable exception of willy (explicitly CC'd here). Of course, if someone wants to step up and handle p-l.o email on their own, they're welcome to raise a hand ;)
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Since the domain expires on August 2014, I believe this gives us sufficient time to evaluate "what to do next". As far as *I* am concerned, I plan to have transitioned all references to my p-l.o email address (mostly in source code) by then, meaning that *I* will probably not see a need to keep the domain going beyond that point. I would like to explicitly point out here that I commit myself to providing hosting facilities as explained above UNTIL THEN, after which I reserve the right to "move on".
That's OK for me.
Just let us know.
Will you add a reminder to your calendar?
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HINT HINT HINT: if someone wants to keep p-l.o going after that point, they'll have to keep that deadline in mind. I am offering a transition as the A500 is being decommissioned, but I am NOT offering a permanent solution.
Sure.
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Finally, do we have an exact date as to when the A500 will be powered down?
Again, I'm happy as long as it can live.
Sadly still no feedback from OSUOSL.
Helge
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Again, I'm happy as long as it can live.
Sadly still no feedback from OSUOSL.
If you filled in the form over a week ago, ping Lance directly.
James
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Again, I'm happy as long as it can live.
I'm happy too, but then again, if we want a smooth transition, having a=
date for when to push the button would be nice...
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Le 9 nov. 2013 =E0 20:17, Matt Taggart <[email protected]> a =E9crit :
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As a temporary workaround, I could give you the IP addresses of my D=
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servers (once I've readied them for handling p-l.o, which, to begin with, means I have to copy the existing zone), which would for all practical purposes give me control over the domain until it can be properly moved next summer (which must not be forgotten, especially =
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that you've unlocked the domain).
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just let me know. taggart@OFTC
OK, I=92ll try to prepare everything next week and will ping you then, = thanks!
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Is there any possibility that HP might continue to host parisc-linux.org on some other subnet/machine?
I've asked before if they had other systems/VMs they could host it on and the answer was no. I'll ask again to make sure that hasn't changed for some reason, but I'd recommend looking for other options in the meantime. Perhaps osuosl.org?
I would really prefer if it could go to some place where we e.g. could use it as build/hosting server (e.g. osuosl.org). If that's not possible I would be happy to get it privately for development, since a A500 is something which I don't have yet, and which is not that easy to get here in germany.
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Is there any possibility that HP might continue to host parisc-linux.org on some other subnet/machine?
I've asked before if they had other systems/VMs they could host it on and the answer was no. I'll ask again to make sure that hasn't changed for some reason, but I'd recommend looking for other options in the meantime. Perhaps osuosl.org?
I would really prefer if it could go to some place where we e.g. could use it as build/hosting server (e.g. osuosl.org). If that's not possible I would be happy to get it privately for development, since a A500 is something which I don't have yet, and which is not that easy to get here in germany.
osuosl.org might well be a good alternative. Helge, would you fill in application?
If osuosl doesn't work out, I would support Helge receiving the machine. I have an A500.
Regarding the website and wiki, there may be ways to handle that as the bandwidth requirements aren't large.
Regarding the unstable archive, Helge and I were recently given accounts on debian-ports and now can do package uploads. I upload the first yesterday. We need an unstable archive from which it's possible to debootstrap to help with this migration. Will have to look at setting this up locally.
Dave
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Is there any possibility that HP might continue to host parisc-linux.org on some other subnet/machine?
I've asked before if they had other systems/VMs they could host it on and the answer was no. I'll ask again to make sure that hasn't changed for some reason, but I'd recommend looking for other options in the meantime. Perhaps osuosl.org?
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I would really prefer if it could go to some place where we e.g. could use it as build/hosting server (e.g. osuosl.org). If that's not possible I would be happy to get it privately for development, since a A500 is something which I don't have yet, and which is not that easy to get here in germany.
osuosl.org might well be a good alternative. Helge, would you fill in application?
I will do.
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If osuosl doesn't work out, I would support Helge receiving the machine. I have an A500.
Regarding the website and wiki, there may be ways to handle that as the bandwidth requirements aren't large.
We have a new wiki at
https://parisc.wiki.kernel.org/
which I thought to be used as replacement for the website. I've already started to migrate some pages over. Anyone is welcome to help with this wiki.
Our regular Wiki (http://wiki.parisc-linux.org/) is hosted at servers from ESIEE and are not affected (AFAICS). Nevertheless, maybe it would make sense to merge those over to the wiki at kernel.org too?
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Regarding the unstable archive, Helge and I were recently given accounts on debian-ports and now can do package uploads. I upload the first yesterday. We need an unstable archive from which it's possible to debootstrap to help with this migration. Will have to look at setting this up locally.
If the archive at debian-ports works out, why do you want an additional debootstrap location?
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now can do package uploads. I upload the first yesterday. We need an unstable archive from which it's possible to debootstrap to help with this migration. Will have to look at setting this up locally.
If the archive at debian-ports works out, why do you want an additional debootstrap location?
A buildd is setup initially using debootstrap. This gives a minimal build system. Then, package dependencies are dynamically resolved for each build as I understand it.
Even doing manual builds, one must set the required dependencies and resolve conflicts. While this can be done using a package archive stored in directory, it's easier to grab the needed packages with apt-get. It will take some time (several months?) for debian-ports to reach the package collection on parisc-linux.org.
None of the packages on parisc-linux.org are signed and they lack a .changes file, so they can't be directly uploaded as I understand it.
If we can't continue with a public archive (this allows others access as well during transition), then it would be best to copy the archive to our respective local systems and use it while we bring ports up to speed.
Dave
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Hi,
I've been informed that the subnet on which HP is hosting
parisc-linux.org is going away next month. They have offered to ship the hardware somewhere if it continues to be needed.We'll probably end up distributing to people. Do they have a list of what it is (and approximate size for those wanting the N class)?
According to the inventory spreadsheet they shared with me, the only thing left is the A500 currently hosting parisc-linux.org.