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Hello!

This series provides a prototype of an RCU-tasks implementation, which has been requested to assist with tramopoline removal. This flavor of RCU is task-based rather than CPU-based, and has voluntary context switch, usermode execution, and the idle loops as its only quiescent states. This selection of quiescent states ensures that at the end of a grace period, there will no longer be any tasks depending on a trampoline that was removed before the beginning of that grace period. This works because such trampolines do not contain function calls, do not contain voluntary context switches, do not switch to usermode, and do not switch to idle.

The patches in this series are as follows:

1. Adds the basic call_rcu_tasks() functionality.

2. Provides cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states, including
RCU-tasks quiescent states, in long loops.

3. Adds synchronous APIs: synchronize_rcu_tasks() and
rcu_barrier_tasks().

4. Adds GPL exports for the above APIs, courtesy of Steven Rostedt.

5. Adds rcutorture tests for RCU-tasks.

6. Adds RCU-tasks test cases to rcutorture scripting.

7. Adds stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks.

8. Adds synchronization with exiting tasks, preventing RCU-tasks from
waiting on exited tasks.

9. Improves RCU-tasks energy efficiency by replacing polling with
wait/wakeup.

Remaining issues include:

o The list locking is not yet set up for lockdep.

o It is not clear that trampolines in functions called from the
idle loop are correctly handled. Or if anyone cares about trampolines in functions called from the idle loop.

o The current implementation does not yet recognize tasks that start
out executing is usermode. Instead, it waits for the next scheduling-clock tick to note them.

o As a result, the current implementation does not handle nohz_full=
CPUs executing tasks running in usermode. There are a couple of possible fixes under consideration.

o If a task is preempted while executing in usermode, the RCU-tasks
grace period will not end until that task resumes. (Is there some reasonable way to determine that a given preempted task was preempted from usermode execution?)

o RCU-tasks needs to be added to Documentation/RCU.

o There are probably still bugs.

Thanx, Paul

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 b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt                         |    5 
 b/fs/file.c                                                   |    2 
 b/include/linux/init_task.h                                   |   14 
 b/include/linux/rcupdate.h                                    |   60 
 b/include/linux/rcutiny.h                                     |    1 
 b/include/linux/sched.h                                       |   13 
 b/init/Kconfig                                                |   10 
 b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c                                     |   44 
 b/kernel/rcu/tiny.c                                           |    2 
 b/kernel/rcu/tree.c                                           |   14 
 b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h                                    |    4 
 b/kernel/rcu/update.c                                         |  616 +++++++++-
 b/kernel/sched/core.c                                         |    2 
 b/mm/mlock.c                                                  |    2 
 b/tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01      |    7 
 b/tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01.boot |    1 
 b/tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02      |    6 
 b/tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02.boot |    1 
 18 files changed, 749 insertions(+), 55 deletions(-)
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RFC PATCH 1/9 rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

This commit adds a new RCU-tasks flavor of RCU, which provides call_rcu_tasks(). This RCU flavor's quiescent states are voluntary context switch (not preemption!), userspace execution, and the idle loop. Note that unlike other RCU flavors, these quiescent states occur in tasks, not necessarily CPUs. Includes fixes from Steven Rostedt.

This RCU flavor is assumed to have very infrequent latency-tolerate updaters. This assumption permits significant simplifications, including a single global callback list protected by a single global lock, along with a single linked list containing all tasks that have not yet passed through a quiescent state. If experience shows this assumption to be incorrect, the required additional complexity will be added.

---
 include/linux/init_task.h |   9 +++
 include/linux/rcupdate.h  |  36 +++++++++++
 include/linux/sched.h     |   8 +++
 init/Kconfig              |  10 +++
 kernel/rcu/tiny.c         |   2 +
 kernel/rcu/tree.c         |   2 +
 kernel/rcu/update.c       | 158 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 kernel/sched/core.c       |   2 +
 8 files changed, 227 insertions(+)
include/linux/init_task.h +9 -0
index 6df7f9fe0d01..78715ea7c30c 100644
@@ -124,6 +124,14 @@ extern struct group_info init_groups;
 #else
 #define INIT_TASK_RCU_PREEMPT(tsk)
 #endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
+#define INIT_TASK_RCU_TASKS(tsk)					\
+	.rcu_tasks_holdout = false,					\
+	.rcu_tasks_holdout_list =					\
+		LIST_HEAD_INIT(tsk.rcu_tasks_holdout_list),
+#else
+#define INIT_TASK_RCU_TASKS(tsk)
+#endif
 
 extern struct cred init_cred;
 
@@ -231,6 +239,7 @@ extern struct task_group root_task_group;
 	INIT_FTRACE_GRAPH						\
 	INIT_TRACE_RECURSION						\
 	INIT_TASK_RCU_PREEMPT(tsk)					\
+	INIT_TASK_RCU_TASKS(tsk)					\
 	INIT_CPUSET_SEQ(tsk)						\
 	INIT_RT_MUTEXES(tsk)						\
 	INIT_VTIME(tsk)							\
include/linux/rcupdate.h +36 -0
index 6a94cc8b1ca0..05656b504295 100644
@@ -197,6 +197,26 @@ void call_rcu_sched(struct rcu_head *head,
 
 void synchronize_sched(void);
 
+/**
+ * call_rcu_tasks() - Queue an RCU for invocation task-based grace period
+ * @head: structure to be used for queueing the RCU updates.
+ * @func: actual callback function to be invoked after the grace period
+ *
+ * The callback function will be invoked some time after a full grace
+ * period elapses, in other words after all currently executing RCU
+ * read-side critical sections have completed. call_rcu_tasks() assumes
+ * that the read-side critical sections end at a voluntary context
+ * switch (not a preemption!), entry into idle, or transition to usermode
+ * execution.  As such, there are no read-side primitives analogous to
+ * rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock() because this primitive is intended
+ * to determine that all tasks have passed through a safe state, not so
+ * much for data-strcuture synchronization.
+ *
+ * See the description of call_rcu() for more detailed information on
+ * memory ordering guarantees.
+ */
+void call_rcu_tasks(struct rcu_head *head, void (*func)(struct rcu_head *head));
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU
 
 void __rcu_read_lock(void);
@@ -294,6 +314,22 @@ static inline void rcu_user_hooks_switch(struct task_struct *prev,
 		rcu_irq_exit(); \
 	} while (0)
 
+/*
+ * Note a voluntary context switch for RCU-tasks benefit.  This is a
+ * macro rather than an inline function to avoid #include hell.
+ */
+#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
+#define rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(t) \
+	do { \
+		preempt_disable(); /* Exclude synchronize_sched(); */ \
+		if ((t)->rcu_tasks_holdout) \
+			smp_store_release(&(t)->rcu_tasks_holdout, 0); \
+		preempt_enable(); \
+	} while (0)
+#else /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
+#define rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(t)	do { } while (0)
+#endif /* #else #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
+
 #if defined(CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC) || defined(CONFIG_RCU_TRACE) || defined(CONFIG_SMP)
 bool __rcu_is_watching(void);
 #endif /* #if defined(CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC) || defined(CONFIG_RCU_TRACE) || defined(CONFIG_SMP) */
include/linux/sched.h +8 -0
index 306f4f0c987a..3e18b7bbe4df 100644
@@ -1273,6 +1273,10 @@ struct task_struct {
 #ifdef CONFIG_RCU_BOOST
 	struct rt_mutex *rcu_boost_mutex;
 #endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_RCU_BOOST */
+#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
+	int rcu_tasks_holdout;
+	struct list_head rcu_tasks_holdout_list;
+#endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
 
 #if defined(CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS) || defined(CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT)
 	struct sched_info sched_info;
@@ -2013,6 +2017,10 @@ static inline void rcu_copy_process(struct task_struct *p)
 	p->rcu_boost_mutex = NULL;
 #endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_RCU_BOOST */
 	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->rcu_node_entry);
+#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
+	p->rcu_tasks_holdout = false;
+	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
+#endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
 }
 
 #else
init/Kconfig +10 -0
index 9d76b99af1b9..c56cb62a2df1 100644
@@ -507,6 +507,16 @@ config PREEMPT_RCU
 	  This option enables preemptible-RCU code that is common between
 	  the TREE_PREEMPT_RCU and TINY_PREEMPT_RCU implementations.
 
+config TASKS_RCU
+	bool "Task_based RCU implementation using voluntary context switch"
+	default n
+	help
+	  This option enables a task-based RCU implementation that uses
+	  only voluntary context switch (not preemption!), idle, and
+	  user-mode execution as quiescent states.
+
+	  If unsure, say N.
+
 config RCU_STALL_COMMON
 	def_bool ( TREE_RCU || TREE_PREEMPT_RCU || RCU_TRACE )
 	help
kernel/rcu/tiny.c +2 -0
index d9efcc13008c..717f00854fc0 100644
@@ -254,6 +254,8 @@ void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user)
 		rcu_sched_qs(cpu);
 	else if (!in_softirq())
 		rcu_bh_qs(cpu);
+	if (user)
+		rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current);
 }
 
 /*
kernel/rcu/tree.c +2 -0
index 625d0b0cd75a..f958c52f644d 100644
@@ -2413,6 +2413,8 @@ void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user)
 	rcu_preempt_check_callbacks(cpu);
 	if (rcu_pending(cpu))
 		invoke_rcu_core();
+	if (user)
+		rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current);
 	trace_rcu_utilization(TPS("End scheduler-tick"));
 }
 
kernel/rcu/update.c +158 -0

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kernel/sched/core.c +2 -0
index bc1638b33449..a0d2f3a03566 100644
@@ -2762,6 +2762,7 @@ need_resched:
 		} else {
 			deactivate_task(rq, prev, DEQUEUE_SLEEP);
 			prev->on_rq = 0;
+			rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(prev);
 
 			/*
 			 * If a worker went to sleep, notify and ask workqueue
@@ -2828,6 +2829,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void)
 	struct task_struct *tsk = current;
 
 	sched_submit_work(tsk);
+	rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(tsk);
 	__schedule();
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(schedule);
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RFC PATCH 2/9 rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

RCU-tasks requires the occasional voluntary context switch from CPU-bound in-kernel tasks. In some cases, this requires instrumenting cond_resched(). However, there is some reluctance to countenance unconditionally instrumenting cond_resched() (see
http://lwn.net/Articles/603252/), so this commit creates a separate cond_resched_rcu_qs() that may be used in place of cond_resched() in locations prone to long-duration in-kernel looping.

This commit currently instruments only RCU-tasks. Future possibilities include also instrumenting RCU, RCU-bh, and RCU-sched in order to reduce IPI usage.

---
 fs/file.c                |  2 +-
 include/linux/rcupdate.h | 13 +++++++++++++
 kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c  |  4 ++--
 kernel/rcu/tree.c        | 12 ++++++------
 kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h |  2 +-
 mm/mlock.c               |  2 +-
 6 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
fs/file.c +1 -1
index 66923fe3176e..1cafc4c9275b 100644
@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@ static struct fdtable *close_files(struct files_struct * files)
 				struct file * file = xchg(&fdt->fd[i], NULL);
 				if (file) {
 					filp_close(file, files);
-					cond_resched();
+					cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 				}
 			}
 			i++;
include/linux/rcupdate.h +13 -0
index 05656b504295..3299ff98ad03 100644
@@ -330,6 +330,19 @@ static inline void rcu_user_hooks_switch(struct task_struct *prev,
 #define rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(t)	do { } while (0)
 #endif /* #else #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
 
+/**
+ * cond_resched_rcu_qs - Report potential quiescent states to RCU
+ *
+ * This macro resembles cond_resched(), except that it is defined to
+ * report potential quiescent states to RCU-tasks even if the cond_resched()
+ * machinery were to be shut off, as some advocate for PREEMPT kernels.
+ */
+#define cond_resched_rcu_qs() \
+do { \
+	rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current); \
+	cond_resched(); \
+} while (0)
+
 #if defined(CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC) || defined(CONFIG_RCU_TRACE) || defined(CONFIG_SMP)
 bool __rcu_is_watching(void);
 #endif /* #if defined(CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC) || defined(CONFIG_RCU_TRACE) || defined(CONFIG_SMP) */
kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c +2 -2
index 7fa34f86e5ba..febe07062ac5 100644
@@ -667,7 +667,7 @@ static int rcu_torture_boost(void *arg)
 				}
 				call_rcu_time = jiffies;
 			}
-			cond_resched();
+			cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 			stutter_wait("rcu_torture_boost");
 			if (torture_must_stop())
 				goto checkwait;
@@ -1019,7 +1019,7 @@ rcu_torture_reader(void *arg)
 		__this_cpu_inc(rcu_torture_batch[completed]);
 		preempt_enable();
 		cur_ops->readunlock(idx);
-		cond_resched();
+		cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 		stutter_wait("rcu_torture_reader");
 	} while (!torture_must_stop());
 	if (irqreader && cur_ops->irq_capable) {
kernel/rcu/tree.c +6 -6
index f958c52f644d..645a33efc0d4 100644
@@ -1650,7 +1650,7 @@ static int rcu_gp_init(struct rcu_state *rsp)
 		    system_state == SYSTEM_RUNNING)
 			udelay(200);
 #endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_PROVE_RCU_DELAY */
-		cond_resched();
+		cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 	}
 
 	mutex_unlock(&rsp->onoff_mutex);
@@ -1739,7 +1739,7 @@ static void rcu_gp_cleanup(struct rcu_state *rsp)
 		/* smp_mb() provided by prior unlock-lock pair. */
 		nocb += rcu_future_gp_cleanup(rsp, rnp);
 		raw_spin_unlock_irq(&rnp->lock);
-		cond_resched();
+		cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 	}
 	rnp = rcu_get_root(rsp);
 	raw_spin_lock_irq(&rnp->lock);
@@ -1788,7 +1788,7 @@ static int __noreturn rcu_gp_kthread(void *arg)
 			/* Locking provides needed memory barrier. */
 			if (rcu_gp_init(rsp))
 				break;
-			cond_resched();
+			cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 			flush_signals(current);
 			trace_rcu_grace_period(rsp->name,
 					       ACCESS_ONCE(rsp->gpnum),
@@ -1831,10 +1831,10 @@ static int __noreturn rcu_gp_kthread(void *arg)
 				trace_rcu_grace_period(rsp->name,
 						       ACCESS_ONCE(rsp->gpnum),
 						       TPS("fqsend"));
-				cond_resched();
+				cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 			} else {
 				/* Deal with stray signal. */
-				cond_resched();
+				cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 				flush_signals(current);
 				trace_rcu_grace_period(rsp->name,
 						       ACCESS_ONCE(rsp->gpnum),
@@ -2437,7 +2437,7 @@ static void force_qs_rnp(struct rcu_state *rsp,
 	struct rcu_node *rnp;
 
 	rcu_for_each_leaf_node(rsp, rnp) {
-		cond_resched();
+		cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 		mask = 0;
 		raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rnp->lock, flags);
 		smp_mb__after_unlock_lock();
kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h +1 -1
index 02ac0fb186b8..a86a363ea453 100644
@@ -1842,7 +1842,7 @@ static int rcu_oom_notify(struct notifier_block *self,
 	get_online_cpus();
 	for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
 		smp_call_function_single(cpu, rcu_oom_notify_cpu, NULL, 1);
-		cond_resched();
+		cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 	}
 	put_online_cpus();
 
mm/mlock.c +1 -1
index b1eb53634005..bc386a22d647 100644
@@ -782,7 +782,7 @@ static int do_mlockall(int flags)
 
 		/* Ignore errors */
 		mlock_fixup(vma, &prev, vma->vm_start, vma->vm_end, newflags);
-		cond_resched();
+		cond_resched_rcu_qs();
 	}
 out:
 	return 0;
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#3 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

RCU-tasks requires the occasional voluntary context switch from CPU-bound in-kernel tasks. In some cases, this requires instrumenting cond_resched(). However, there is some reluctance to countenance unconditionally instrumenting cond_resched() (see
http://lwn.net/Articles/603252/),

No, if its a good reason mention it, if not ignore it.

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so this commit creates a separate
cond_resched_rcu_qs() that may be used in place of cond_resched() in locations prone to long-duration in-kernel looping.

Sounds like a pain and a recipe for mistakes. How is joe kernel hacker supposed to 1) know about this new api, and 2) decide which to use?

Heck, even I wouldn't know, and I just read the damn patch.

#4 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 10 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

RCU-tasks requires the occasional voluntary context switch from CPU-bound in-kernel tasks. In some cases, this requires instrumenting cond_resched(). However, there is some reluctance to countenance unconditionally instrumenting cond_resched() (see
http://lwn.net/Articles/603252/),

No, if its a good reason mention it, if not ignore it.

Fair enough. ;-)

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so this commit creates a separate
cond_resched_rcu_qs() that may be used in place of cond_resched() in locations prone to long-duration in-kernel looping.

Sounds like a pain and a recipe for mistakes. How is joe kernel hacker supposed to 1) know about this new api, and 2) decide which to use?

Heck, even I wouldn't know, and I just read the damn patch.

When Joe Hacker gets stall warning messages due to loops in the kernel that contain cond_resched(), that is a hint that cond_resched_rcu_qs() is required. These stall warnings can occur when using RCU-tasks and when using normal RCU in NO_HZ_FULL kernels in cases where the scheduling-clock interrupt is left off while executing a long code path in the kernel. (Of course, in both cases, another eminently reasonable fix is to shorten the offending code path in the kernel.)

I should add words to that effect to Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt, shouldn't I? Done.

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
#5 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 31 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 10 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

RCU-tasks requires the occasional voluntary context switch from CPU-bound in-kernel tasks. In some cases, this requires instrumenting cond_resched(). However, there is some reluctance to countenance unconditionally instrumenting cond_resched() (see
http://lwn.net/Articles/603252/),

No, if its a good reason mention it, if not ignore it.

Fair enough. ;-)

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so this commit creates a separate
cond_resched_rcu_qs() that may be used in place of cond_resched() in locations prone to long-duration in-kernel looping.

Sounds like a pain and a recipe for mistakes. How is joe kernel hacker supposed to 1) know about this new api, and 2) decide which to use?

Heck, even I wouldn't know, and I just read the damn patch.

When Joe Hacker gets stall warning messages due to loops in the kernel that contain cond_resched(), that is a hint that cond_resched_rcu_qs() is required. These stall warnings can occur when using RCU-tasks and when using normal RCU in NO_HZ_FULL kernels in cases where the scheduling-clock interrupt is left off while executing a long code path in the kernel. (Of course, in both cases, another eminently reasonable fix is to shorten the offending code path in the kernel.)

Quoted 2 lines

I should add words to that effect to Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt, shouldn't I? Done.

No, but why can't we make the regular cond_resched() do this?

#6 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 32 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 31 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 10 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

RCU-tasks requires the occasional voluntary context switch from CPU-bound in-kernel tasks. In some cases, this requires instrumenting cond_resched(). However, there is some reluctance to countenance unconditionally instrumenting cond_resched() (see
http://lwn.net/Articles/603252/),

No, if its a good reason mention it, if not ignore it.

Fair enough. ;-)

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Quoted 3 lines

so this commit creates a separate
cond_resched_rcu_qs() that may be used in place of cond_resched() in locations prone to long-duration in-kernel looping.

Sounds like a pain and a recipe for mistakes. How is joe kernel hacker supposed to 1) know about this new api, and 2) decide which to use?

Heck, even I wouldn't know, and I just read the damn patch.

When Joe Hacker gets stall warning messages due to loops in the kernel that contain cond_resched(), that is a hint that cond_resched_rcu_qs() is required. These stall warnings can occur when using RCU-tasks and when using normal RCU in NO_HZ_FULL kernels in cases where the scheduling-clock interrupt is left off while executing a long code path in the kernel. (Of course, in both cases, another eminently reasonable fix is to shorten the offending code path in the kernel.)

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I should add words to that effect to Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt, shouldn't I? Done.

No, but why can't we make the regular cond_resched() do this?

Well, I got a lot of grief when I tried it a few weeks ago.

But from what I can see, you are the maintainer or cond_resched(), so if you are good with making the normal cond_resched() do this, I am more than happy to make it so! ;-)

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
#7 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 1 line

No, but why can't we make the regular cond_resched() do this?

Well, I got a lot of grief when I tried it a few weeks ago.

But from what I can see, you are the maintainer or cond_resched(), so if you are good with making the normal cond_resched() do this, I am more than happy to make it so! ;-)

Well, its the 'obvious' thing to do. But clearly I haven't tried so I'm blissfully unaware of any problems. And the Changelog didn't inform me either (you had a link in there, which I didn't read :-)

maintainer
#8 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 5 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 4 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 1 line

No, but why can't we make the regular cond_resched() do this?

Well, I got a lot of grief when I tried it a few weeks ago.

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But from what I can see, you are the maintainer or cond_resched(), so if you are good with making the normal cond_resched() do this, I am more than happy to make it so! ;-)

Well, its the 'obvious' thing to do. But clearly I haven't tried so I'm blissfully unaware of any problems. And the Changelog didn't inform me either (you had a link in there, which I didn't read :-)

Then again, last time we touched cond_resched() we had a scalability issue or somesuch, or am I misremembering things?

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/9] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops

Quoted 10 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 9 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 1 line

No, but why can't we make the regular cond_resched() do this?

Well, I got a lot of grief when I tried it a few weeks ago.

But from what I can see, you are the maintainer or cond_resched(), so if you are good with making the normal cond_resched() do this, I am more than happy to make it so! ;-)

Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

Well, its the 'obvious' thing to do. But clearly I haven't tried so I'm blissfully unaware of any problems. And the Changelog didn't inform me either (you had a link in there, which I didn't read :-)

Then again, last time we touched cond_resched() we had a scalability issue or somesuch, or am I misremembering things?

More overhead than scalability, but yes. That said, that was a much heavier weight touch. A later version with only an access to per-CPU variable turned out to have overhead below what could be measured. But I am comfortable with the current approach that does not touch cond_resched() as well.

Thanx, Paul

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RFC PATCH 3/9 rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

It turns out to be easier to add the synchronous grace-period waiting functions to RCU-tasks than to work around their absense in rcutorture, so this commit adds them. The key point is that the existence of call_rcu_tasks() means that rcutorture needs an rcu_barrier_tasks().

---
 include/linux/rcupdate.h |  2 ++
 kernel/rcu/update.c      | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 57 insertions(+)
include/linux/rcupdate.h +2 -0
index 3299ff98ad03..17c7e25c38be 100644
@@ -216,6 +216,8 @@ void synchronize_sched(void);
  * memory ordering guarantees.
  */
 void call_rcu_tasks(struct rcu_head *head, void (*func)(struct rcu_head *head));
+void synchronize_rcu_tasks(void);
+void rcu_barrier_tasks(void);
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU
 
kernel/rcu/update.c +55 -0

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RFC PATCH 4/9 rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: Steven Rostedt <[email protected]>

This commit exports the RCU-tasks APIs, call_rcu_tasks(), synchronize_rcu_tasks(), and rcu_barrier_tasks(), to GPL-licensed kernel modules.

---
 kernel/rcu/update.c | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
kernel/rcu/update.c +2 -0
index 310ecf4f8e74..583f6778f330 100644
@@ -429,6 +429,7 @@ void synchronize_rcu_tasks(void)
 	/* Wait for the grace period. */
 	wait_rcu_gp(call_rcu_tasks);
 }
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(synchronize_rcu_tasks);
 
 /**
  * rcu_barrier_tasks - Wait for in-flight call_rcu_tasks() callbacks.
@@ -441,6 +442,7 @@ void rcu_barrier_tasks(void)
 	/* There is only one callback queue, so this is easy.  ;-) */
 	synchronize_rcu_tasks();
 }
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rcu_barrier_tasks);
 
 /* RCU-tasks kthread that detects grace periods and invokes callbacks. */
 static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
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RFC PATCH 5/9 rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

This commit adds torture tests for RCU-tasks. It also fixes a bug that would segfault for an RCU flavor lacking a callback-barrier function.

---
 include/linux/rcupdate.h |  1 +
 kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c  | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
 2 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
include/linux/rcupdate.h +1 -0
index 17c7e25c38be..ecb2198849e0 100644
@@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ enum rcutorture_type {
 	RCU_FLAVOR,
 	RCU_BH_FLAVOR,
 	RCU_SCHED_FLAVOR,
+	RCU_TASKS_FLAVOR,
 	SRCU_FLAVOR,
 	INVALID_RCU_FLAVOR
 };
kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c +39 -1
index febe07062ac5..6d12ab6675bc 100644
@@ -602,6 +602,42 @@ static struct rcu_torture_ops sched_ops = {
 };
 
 /*
+ * Definitions for RCU-tasks torture testing.
+ */
+
+static int tasks_torture_read_lock(void)
+{
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static void tasks_torture_read_unlock(int idx)
+{
+}
+
+static void rcu_tasks_torture_deferred_free(struct rcu_torture *p)
+{
+	call_rcu_tasks(&p->rtort_rcu, rcu_torture_cb);
+}
+
+static struct rcu_torture_ops tasks_ops = {
+	.ttype		= RCU_TASKS_FLAVOR,
+	.init		= rcu_sync_torture_init,
+	.readlock	= tasks_torture_read_lock,
+	.read_delay	= rcu_read_delay,  /* just reuse rcu's version. */
+	.readunlock	= tasks_torture_read_unlock,
+	.completed	= rcu_no_completed,
+	.deferred_free	= rcu_tasks_torture_deferred_free,
+	.sync		= synchronize_rcu_tasks,
+	.exp_sync	= synchronize_rcu_tasks,
+	.call		= call_rcu_tasks,
+	.cb_barrier	= rcu_barrier_tasks,
+	.fqs		= NULL,
+	.stats		= NULL,
+	.irq_capable	= 1,
+	.name		= "tasks"
+};
+
+/*
  * RCU torture priority-boost testing.  Runs one real-time thread per
  * CPU for moderate bursts, repeatedly registering RCU callbacks and
  * spinning waiting for them to be invoked.  If a given callback takes
@@ -1295,7 +1331,8 @@ static int rcu_torture_barrier_cbs(void *arg)
 		if (atomic_dec_and_test(&barrier_cbs_count))
 			wake_up(&barrier_wq);
 	} while (!torture_must_stop());
-	cur_ops->cb_barrier();
+	if (cur_ops->cb_barrier != NULL)
+		cur_ops->cb_barrier();
 	destroy_rcu_head_on_stack(&rcu);
 	torture_kthread_stopping("rcu_torture_barrier_cbs");
 	return 0;
@@ -1534,6 +1571,7 @@ rcu_torture_init(void)
 	int firsterr = 0;
 	static struct rcu_torture_ops *torture_ops[] = {
 		&rcu_ops, &rcu_bh_ops, &rcu_busted_ops, &srcu_ops, &sched_ops,
+		&tasks_ops,
 	};
 
 	if (!torture_init_begin(torture_type, verbose, &rcutorture_runnable))
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RFC PATCH 6/9 rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

This commit adds the TASKS01 and TASKS02 Kconfig fragments, along with the corresponding TASKS01.boot and TASKS02.boot boot-parameter files specifying that rcutorture test RCU-tasks instead of the default flavor.

---
 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01      | 7 +++++++
 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01.boot | 1 +
 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02      | 6 ++++++
 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02.boot | 1 +
 4 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01
 create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01.boot
 create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02
 create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02.boot
tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01 new file +7 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..263a20f01fae
@@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
+CONFIG_SMP=y
+CONFIG_NR_CPUS=2
+CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
+CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=n
+CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=n
+CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
+CONFIG_TASKS_RCU=y
tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS01.boot new file +1 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..cd2a188eeb6d
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+rcutorture.torture_type=tasks
tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02 new file +6 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..17b669c8833c
@@ -0,0 +1,6 @@
+CONFIG_SMP=n
+CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
+CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y
+CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=n
+CONFIG_PREEMPT=n
+CONFIG_TASKS_RCU=y
tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/configs/rcu/TASKS02.boot new file +1 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..cd2a188eeb6d
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+rcutorture.torture_type=tasks
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RFC PATCH 7/9 rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

This commit adds a three-minute RCU-tasks stall warning. The actual time is controlled by the boot/sysfs parameter rcu_task_stall_timeout, with values less than or equal to zero disabling the stall warnings. The default value is three minutes, which means that the tasks that have not yet responded will get their stacks dumped every three minutes, until they pass through a voluntary context switch.

Conflicts:
kernel/rcu/update.c

---
 Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |  5 +++++
 kernel/rcu/update.c                 | 42 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 2 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +5 -0
index 910c3829f81d..8cdbde7b17f5 100644
@@ -2921,6 +2921,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be entirely omitted.
 	rcupdate.rcu_cpu_stall_timeout= [KNL]
 			Set timeout for RCU CPU stall warning messages.
 
+	rcupdate.rcu_task_stall_timeout= [KNL]
+			Set timeout in jiffies for RCU task stall warning
+			messages.  Disable with a value less than or equal
+			to zero.
+
 	rdinit=		[KNL]
 			Format: <full_path>
 			Run specified binary instead of /init from the ramdisk,
kernel/rcu/update.c +36 -6

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RFC PATCH 8/9 rcu: Make RCU-tasks track exiting tasks

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

This commit adds synchronization with exiting tasks, so that RCU-tasks avoids waiting on tasks that no longer exist.

Conflicts:
kernel/rcu/update.c

---
 include/linux/init_task.h |   5 +-
 include/linux/rcupdate.h  |   8 ++
 include/linux/rcutiny.h   |   1 +
 include/linux/sched.h     |   5 +-
 kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h  |   2 +
 kernel/rcu/update.c       | 345 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
 6 files changed, 331 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-)
include/linux/init_task.h +3 -2
index 78715ea7c30c..dd9b2d471270 100644
@@ -127,8 +127,9 @@ extern struct group_info init_groups;
 #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
 #define INIT_TASK_RCU_TASKS(tsk)					\
 	.rcu_tasks_holdout = false,					\
-	.rcu_tasks_holdout_list =					\
-		LIST_HEAD_INIT(tsk.rcu_tasks_holdout_list),
+	.rcu_tasks_holdout_list.prev = LIST_POISON2,			\
+	.rcu_tasks_lock = __SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED(tsk.rcu_tasks_lock),	\
+	.rcu_tasks_exiting = 0,
 #else
 #define INIT_TASK_RCU_TASKS(tsk)
 #endif
include/linux/rcupdate.h +8 -0
index ecb2198849e0..1c0c286b97df 100644
@@ -292,6 +292,14 @@ static inline void rcu_user_hooks_switch(struct task_struct *prev,
 					 struct task_struct *next) { }
 #endif /* CONFIG_RCU_USER_QS */
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
+void exit_rcu_tasks(void);
+#else /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
+static inline exit_rcu_tasks(void)
+{
+}
+#endif /* #else #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
+
 /**
  * RCU_NONIDLE - Indicate idle-loop code that needs RCU readers
  * @a: Code that RCU needs to pay attention to.
include/linux/rcutiny.h +1 -0
index d40a6a451330..326cd54d0f34 100644
@@ -129,6 +129,7 @@ static inline void rcu_cpu_stall_reset(void)
 
 static inline void exit_rcu(void)
 {
+	exit_rcu_tasks();
 }
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
include/linux/sched.h +4 -1
index 3e18b7bbe4df..f896b93b29f6 100644
@@ -1276,6 +1276,8 @@ struct task_struct {
 #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
 	int rcu_tasks_holdout;
 	struct list_head rcu_tasks_holdout_list;
+	spinlock_t rcu_tasks_lock;
+	int rcu_tasks_exiting;
 #endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
 
 #if defined(CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS) || defined(CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT)
@@ -2019,7 +2021,8 @@ static inline void rcu_copy_process(struct task_struct *p)
 	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->rcu_node_entry);
 #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
 	p->rcu_tasks_holdout = false;
-	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
+	p->rcu_tasks_holdout_list.prev = LIST_POISON2;
+	spin_lock_init(&p->rcu_tasks_lock);
 #endif /* #ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU */
 }
 
kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h +2 -0
index a86a363ea453..420f4e852c93 100644
@@ -943,6 +943,7 @@ void exit_rcu(void)
 	barrier();
 	t->rcu_read_unlock_special = RCU_READ_UNLOCK_BLOCKED;
 	__rcu_read_unlock();
+	exit_rcu_tasks();
 }
 
 #else /* #ifdef CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU */
@@ -1093,6 +1094,7 @@ static void __init __rcu_init_preempt(void)
  */
 void exit_rcu(void)
 {
+	exit_rcu_tasks();
 }
 
 #endif /* #else #ifdef CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU */
kernel/rcu/update.c +313 -32

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 8/9] rcu: Make RCU-tasks track exiting tasks

Quoted 3 lines · Paul E. McKenney

This commit adds synchronization with exiting tasks, so that RCU-tasks avoids waiting on tasks that no longer exist.

I don't understand this patch yet, but it seems that it adds more than just synchronization with exiting tasks?

kernel/rcu/update.c void rcu_barrier_tasks(void) · line 716

Quoted 7 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +7 -0
+		ACCESS_ONCE(t->rcu_tasks_holdout) = 1;
+		spin_unlock(&t->rcu_tasks_lock);
+		smp_mb();  /* Order ->rcu_tasks_holdout store before "if". */
+		if (t == current || !ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) || is_idle_task(t)) {
+			smp_store_release(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout, 0);
+			goto next_thread;
+		}

This should avoid the race with schedule()->rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(), right?

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg) · line 514

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +0 -5
-		rcu_read_lock();
-		do_each_thread(g, t) {
-			if (t != current && ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) &&
-			    !is_idle_task(t)) {
-				t->rcu_tasks_holdout = 1;

Because before this patch the code looks obviously racy, a task can do sleep(FOREVER) and block rcu_tasks_kthread() if it reads ->on_rq == 1 after rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch() was already called.

However, I am not sure this race is actually closed even after this change... why rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch() can not miss ->rcu_tasks_holdout != 0 ?

OK, it seems that you are going to send the next version anyway, so please ignore.

Oleg.

#17 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 8/9] rcu: Make RCU-tasks track exiting tasks

Quoted 7 lines · Oleg Nesterov
Quoted 3 lines · Paul E. McKenney

This commit adds synchronization with exiting tasks, so that RCU-tasks avoids waiting on tasks that no longer exist.

I don't understand this patch yet, but it seems that it adds more than just synchronization with exiting tasks?

There was also a bit of code reorganization to keep indentation level down to a dull roar.

Quoted 21 lines

kernel/rcu/update.c void rcu_barrier_tasks(void) · line 716

Quoted 7 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +7 -0
+		ACCESS_ONCE(t->rcu_tasks_holdout) = 1;
+		spin_unlock(&t->rcu_tasks_lock);
+		smp_mb();  /* Order ->rcu_tasks_holdout store before "if". */
+		if (t == current || !ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) || is_idle_task(t)) {
+			smp_store_release(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout, 0);
+			goto next_thread;
+		}

This should avoid the race with schedule()->rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(), right?

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg) · line 514

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +0 -5
-		rcu_read_lock();
-		do_each_thread(g, t) {
-			if (t != current && ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) &&
-			    !is_idle_task(t)) {
-				t->rcu_tasks_holdout = 1;

Because before this patch the code looks obviously racy, a task can do sleep(FOREVER) and block rcu_tasks_kthread() if it reads ->on_rq == 1 after rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch() was already called.

Quoted 3 lines

However, I am not sure this race is actually closed even after this change... why rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch() can not miss ->rcu_tasks_holdout != 0 ?

Good point, I need to add a !ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) when scanning the list of tasks blocking the grace period. I also need to handle NO_HZ_FULL, but that comes later.

Thanx, Paul

Quoted 5 lines

OK, it seems that you are going to send the next version anyway, so please ignore.

Oleg.

#18 lore raw

RFC PATCH 9/9 rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

The current RCU-tasks implementation uses strict polling to detect callback arrivals. This works quite well, but is not so good for energy efficiency. This commit therefore replaces the strict polling with a wait queue.

Conflicts:
kernel/rcu/update.c

---
 kernel/rcu/update.c | 14 ++++++++++++--
 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
kernel/rcu/update.c +12 -2
index 7d3e56f7b623..34625ef543f6 100644
@@ -372,6 +372,7 @@ static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(rcu_tasks_global_lock);
 /* Global list of callbacks and associated lock. */
 static struct rcu_head *rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
 static struct rcu_head **rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = &rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+static DECLARE_WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD(rcu_tasks_cbs_wq);
 static DEFINE_RAW_SPINLOCK(rcu_tasks_cbs_lock);
 
 /* Control stall timeouts.  Disable with <= 0, otherwise jiffies till stall. */
@@ -382,13 +383,17 @@ module_param(rcu_task_stall_timeout, int, 0644);
 void call_rcu_tasks(struct rcu_head *rhp, void (*func)(struct rcu_head *rhp))
 {
 	unsigned long flags;
+	bool needwake;
 
 	rhp->next = NULL;
 	rhp->func = func;
 	raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+	needwake = !rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
 	*rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = rhp;
 	rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = &rhp->next;
 	raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+	if (needwake)
+		wake_up(&rcu_tasks_cbs_wq);
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(call_rcu_tasks);
 
@@ -786,8 +791,12 @@ static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
 
 		/* If there were none, wait a bit and start over. */
 		if (!list) {
-			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ);
-			flush_signals(current);
+			wait_event_interruptible(rcu_tasks_cbs_wq,
+						 rcu_tasks_cbs_head);
+			if (!rcu_tasks_cbs_head) {
+				flush_signals(current);
+				schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ/10);
+			}
 			continue;
 		}
 
@@ -844,6 +853,7 @@ static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
 			list = next;
 			cond_resched();
 		}
+		schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(HZ/10);
 	}
 }
 
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 13 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
index bc1638b33449..a0d2f3a03566 100644
@@ -2762,6 +2762,7 @@ need_resched:
 		} else {
 			deactivate_task(rq, prev, DEQUEUE_SLEEP);
 			prev->on_rq = 0;
+			rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(prev);
 
 			/*
 			 * If a worker went to sleep, notify and ask workqueue

kernel/sched/core.c asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void) · line 2834

Quoted 6 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
@@ -2828,6 +2829,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void)
 	struct task_struct *tsk = current;
 
 	sched_submit_work(tsk);
+	rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(tsk);
 	__schedule();
 }

Yeah, not entirely happy with that, you add two calls into one of the hotest paths of the kernel.

And I'm still not entirely sure why, your 0/x babbled something about trampolines, but I'm not sure I understand how those lead to this.

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 16 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 15 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
index bc1638b33449..a0d2f3a03566 100644
@@ -2762,6 +2762,7 @@ need_resched:
 		} else {
 			deactivate_task(rq, prev, DEQUEUE_SLEEP);
 			prev->on_rq = 0;
+			rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(prev);
 
 			/*
 			 * If a worker went to sleep, notify and ask workqueue
@@ -2828,6 +2829,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void)
 	struct task_struct *tsk = current;
 
Quoted 7 lines

kernel/sched/core.c asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void) · line 2834

Quoted 4 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
 	sched_submit_work(tsk);
+	rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(tsk);
 	__schedule();
 }

Yeah, not entirely happy with that, you add two calls into one of the hotest paths of the kernel.

I did look into leveraging counters, but cannot remember why I decided that this was a bad idea. I guess it is time to recheck...

The ->nvcsw field in the task_struct structure looks promising:

o Looks like it does in fact get incremented in __schedule() via
the switch_count pointer.

o Looks like it is unconditionally compiled in.

o There are no memory barriers, but a synchronize_sched()
should take care of that, given that this counter is incremented with interrupts disabled.

So I should be able to snapshot the task_struct structure's ->nvcsw field and avoid the added code in the fastpaths.

Seem plausible, or am I confused about the role of ->nvcsw?

Quoted 2 lines

And I'm still not entirely sure why, your 0/x babbled something about trampolines, but I'm not sure I understand how those lead to this.

Steven Rostedt sent an email recently giving more detail. And of course now I am having trouble finding it. Maybe he will take pity on us and send along a pointer to it. ;-)

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 30 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 16 lines · Peter Zijlstra
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kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
index bc1638b33449..a0d2f3a03566 100644
@@ -2762,6 +2762,7 @@ need_resched:
 		} else {
 			deactivate_task(rq, prev, DEQUEUE_SLEEP);
 			prev->on_rq = 0;
+			rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(prev);
 
 			/*
 			 * If a worker went to sleep, notify and ask workqueue
@@ -2828,6 +2829,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void)
 	struct task_struct *tsk = current;
 
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kernel/sched/core.c asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void) · line 2834

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kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
 	sched_submit_work(tsk);
+	rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(tsk);
 	__schedule();
 }

Yeah, not entirely happy with that, you add two calls into one of the hotest paths of the kernel.

I did look into leveraging counters, but cannot remember why I decided that this was a bad idea. I guess it is time to recheck...

The ->nvcsw field in the task_struct structure looks promising:

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o Looks like it does in fact get incremented in __schedule() via
the switch_count pointer.

o Looks like it is unconditionally compiled in.

o There are no memory barriers, but a synchronize_sched()
should take care of that, given that this counter is incremented with interrupts disabled.

Well, there's obviously the actual context switch, which should imply an actual MB such that tasks are self ordered even when execution continues on another cpu etc..

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So I should be able to snapshot the task_struct structure's ->nvcsw field and avoid the added code in the fastpaths.

Seem plausible, or am I confused about the role of ->nvcsw?

Nope, that's the 'I scheduled to go to sleep' counter.

There is of course the 'polling' issue I raised in a further email...

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And I'm still not entirely sure why, your 0/x babbled something about trampolines, but I'm not sure I understand how those lead to this.

Steven Rostedt sent an email recently giving more detail. And of course now I am having trouble finding it. Maybe he will take pity on us and send along a pointer to it. ;-)

Yah, would make good Changelog material that ;-)

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 36 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 35 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 16 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 15 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
index bc1638b33449..a0d2f3a03566 100644
@@ -2762,6 +2762,7 @@ need_resched:
 		} else {
 			deactivate_task(rq, prev, DEQUEUE_SLEEP);
 			prev->on_rq = 0;
+			rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(prev);
 
 			/*
 			 * If a worker went to sleep, notify and ask workqueue
@@ -2828,6 +2829,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void)
 	struct task_struct *tsk = current;
 
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kernel/sched/core.c asmlinkage __visible void __sched schedule(void) · line 2834

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kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
 	sched_submit_work(tsk);
+	rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(tsk);
 	__schedule();
 }

Yeah, not entirely happy with that, you add two calls into one of the hotest paths of the kernel.

I did look into leveraging counters, but cannot remember why I decided that this was a bad idea. I guess it is time to recheck...

The ->nvcsw field in the task_struct structure looks promising:

o Looks like it does in fact get incremented in __schedule() via
the switch_count pointer.

o Looks like it is unconditionally compiled in.

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o There are no memory barriers, but a synchronize_sched()
should take care of that, given that this counter is incremented with interrupts disabled.

Well, there's obviously the actual context switch, which should imply an actual MB such that tasks are self ordered even when execution continues on another cpu etc..

True enough, except that it appears that the context switch happens after the ->nvcsw increment, which means that it doesn't help RCU-tasks guarantee that if it has seen the increment, then all prior processing has completed. There might be enough stuff prior the increment, but I don't see anything that I feel comfortable relying on. Am I missing some ordering?

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So I should be able to snapshot the task_struct structure's ->nvcsw field and avoid the added code in the fastpaths.

Seem plausible, or am I confused about the role of ->nvcsw?

Nope, that's the 'I scheduled to go to sleep' counter.

I am assuming that the "Nope" goes with "am I confused" rather than "Seem plausible" -- if not, please let me know. ;-)

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There is of course the 'polling' issue I raised in a further email...

Yep, and other flavors of RCU go to lengths to avoid scanning the task_struct lists. Steven said that updates will be rare and that it is OK for them to have high latency and overhead. Thus far, I am taking him at his word. ;-)

I considered interrupting the task_struct polling loop periodically, and would add that if needed. That said, this requires nailing down the task_struct at which the vacation is taken. Here "nailing down" does not simply mean "prevent from being freed", but rather "prevent from being removed from the lists traversed by do_each_thread/while_each_thread."

Of course, if there is some easy way of doing this, please let me know!

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And I'm still not entirely sure why, your 0/x babbled something about trampolines, but I'm not sure I understand how those lead to this.

Steven Rostedt sent an email recently giving more detail. And of course now I am having trouble finding it. Maybe he will take pity on us and send along a pointer to it. ;-)

Yah, would make good Changelog material that ;-)

;-) ;-) ;-)

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 8 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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o There are no memory barriers, but a synchronize_sched()
should take care of that, given that this counter is incremented with interrupts disabled.

Well, there's obviously the actual context switch, which should imply an actual MB such that tasks are self ordered even when execution continues on another cpu etc..

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True enough, except that it appears that the context switch happens after the ->nvcsw increment, which means that it doesn't help RCU-tasks guarantee that if it has seen the increment, then all prior processing has completed. There might be enough stuff prior the increment, but I don't see anything that I feel comfortable relying on. Am I missing some ordering?

There's the smp_mb__before_spinlock() + raw_spin_lock_irq(), but that's about it I suppose.

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So I should be able to snapshot the task_struct structure's ->nvcsw field and avoid the added code in the fastpaths.

Seem plausible, or am I confused about the role of ->nvcsw?

Nope, that's the 'I scheduled to go to sleep' counter.

I am assuming that the "Nope" goes with "am I confused" rather than "Seem plausible" -- if not, please let me know. ;-)

Yah :-)

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There is of course the 'polling' issue I raised in a further email...

Yep, and other flavors of RCU go to lengths to avoid scanning the task_struct lists. Steven said that updates will be rare and that it is OK for them to have high latency and overhead. Thus far, I am taking him at his word. ;-)

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I considered interrupting the task_struct polling loop periodically, and would add that if needed. That said, this requires nailing down the task_struct at which the vacation is taken. Here "nailing down" does not simply mean "prevent from being freed", but rather "prevent from being removed from the lists traversed by do_each_thread/while_each_thread."

Of course, if there is some easy way of doing this, please let me know!

Well, one reason I'm not liking this is because its in an anonymous context (kthread) which makes accounting for it hard.

I feel we're doing far too much async stuff already and it keeps getting worse and worse. Ideally we'd be able to account every cycle of kernel 'overhead' to a specific user action.

Another reason is that I fundamentally dislike polling stuff.. but yes, I'm not really seeing how to do this differently, partly because I'm not entirely sure why we need this to begin with. I'm not sure what problem we're solving.

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 16 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 8 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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o There are no memory barriers, but a synchronize_sched()
should take care of that, given that this counter is incremented with interrupts disabled.

Well, there's obviously the actual context switch, which should imply an actual MB such that tasks are self ordered even when execution continues on another cpu etc..

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True enough, except that it appears that the context switch happens after the ->nvcsw increment, which means that it doesn't help RCU-tasks guarantee that if it has seen the increment, then all prior processing has completed. There might be enough stuff prior the increment, but I don't see anything that I feel comfortable relying on. Am I missing some ordering?

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There's the smp_mb__before_spinlock() + raw_spin_lock_irq(), but that's about it I suppose.

Which does only smp_wmb(), correct? :-(

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So I should be able to snapshot the task_struct structure's ->nvcsw field and avoid the added code in the fastpaths.

Seem plausible, or am I confused about the role of ->nvcsw?

Nope, that's the 'I scheduled to go to sleep' counter.

I am assuming that the "Nope" goes with "am I confused" rather than "Seem plausible" -- if not, please let me know. ;-)

Yah :-)

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There is of course the 'polling' issue I raised in a further email...

Yep, and other flavors of RCU go to lengths to avoid scanning the task_struct lists. Steven said that updates will be rare and that it is OK for them to have high latency and overhead. Thus far, I am taking him at his word. ;-)

I considered interrupting the task_struct polling loop periodically, and would add that if needed. That said, this requires nailing down the task_struct at which the vacation is taken. Here "nailing down" does not simply mean "prevent from being freed", but rather "prevent from being removed from the lists traversed by do_each_thread/while_each_thread."

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Of course, if there is some easy way of doing this, please let me know!

Well, one reason I'm not liking this is because its in an anonymous context (kthread) which makes accounting for it hard.

I feel we're doing far too much async stuff already and it keeps getting worse and worse. Ideally we'd be able to account every cycle of kernel 'overhead' to a specific user action.

Hmmm...

In theory, we could transfer the overhead of the kthread for a given grace period to the task invoking the corresponding synchronize_rcu_tasks(). In practice, the overhead might need to be parceled out among several tasks that concurrently invoked synchronize_rcu_tasks(). Or I suppose that the overhead could be assigned to the first such task that woke up, on the theory that things would even out over time.

So exactly how annoyed are you about the lack of accounting? ;-)

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Another reason is that I fundamentally dislike polling stuff.. but yes, I'm not really seeing how to do this differently, partly because I'm not entirely sure why we need this to begin with. I'm not sure what problem we're solving.

As I recall it...

Steven is working on some sort of tracing infrastructure that involves dynamically allocated trampolines being inserted into some/all functions. The trampoline code can be preempted, but never does voluntary context switches, and presumably never calls anything that does voluntary context switches.

Easy to insert a trampoline, but the trick is removing them.

The thought is to restore the instructions at the begining of the function in question, wait for an RCU-tasks grace period, then dispose of the trampoline.

Of course, you could imagine disabling preemption or otherwise entering an RCU read-side critical section before transferring to the trampoline, but this was apparently a no-go due to the overhead for small functions.

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 6 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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I feel we're doing far too much async stuff already and it keeps getting worse and worse. Ideally we'd be able to account every cycle of kernel 'overhead' to a specific user action.

Hmmm...

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In theory, we could transfer the overhead of the kthread for a given grace period to the task invoking the corresponding synchronize_rcu_tasks(). In practice, the overhead might need to be parceled out among several tasks that concurrently invoked synchronize_rcu_tasks(). Or I suppose that the overhead could be assigned to the first such task that woke up, on the theory that things would even out over time.

So exactly how annoyed are you about the lack of accounting? ;-)

Its a general annoyance that people don't seem to consider this at all.

And RCU isn't the largest offender by a long shot.

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Another reason is that I fundamentally dislike polling stuff.. but yes, I'm not really seeing how to do this differently, partly because I'm not entirely sure why we need this to begin with. I'm not sure what problem we're solving.

As I recall it...

Steven is working on some sort of tracing infrastructure that involves dynamically allocated trampolines being inserted into some/all functions. The trampoline code can be preempted, but never does voluntary context switches, and presumably never calls anything that does voluntary context switches.

Easy to insert a trampoline, but the trick is removing them.

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The thought is to restore the instructions at the begining of the function in question, wait for an RCU-tasks grace period, then dispose of the trampoline.

Of course, you could imagine disabling preemption or otherwise entering an RCU read-side critical section before transferring to the trampoline, but this was apparently a no-go due to the overhead for small functions.

So why not use the freezer to get the kernel into a known good state and then remove them trampolines? That would mean a more noticeable disruption of service, but it might be ok for something like disabling a tracer or so. Dunno.

Kernel threads are the problem here, lemme ponder this for a bit.

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 14 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 13 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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I feel we're doing far too much async stuff already and it keeps getting worse and worse. Ideally we'd be able to account every cycle of kernel 'overhead' to a specific user action.

Hmmm...

In theory, we could transfer the overhead of the kthread for a given grace period to the task invoking the corresponding synchronize_rcu_tasks(). In practice, the overhead might need to be parceled out among several tasks that concurrently invoked synchronize_rcu_tasks(). Or I suppose that the overhead could be assigned to the first such task that woke up, on the theory that things would even out over time.

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So exactly how annoyed are you about the lack of accounting? ;-)

Its a general annoyance that people don't seem to consider this at all.

And RCU isn't the largest offender by a long shot.

A challenge! ;-)

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Another reason is that I fundamentally dislike polling stuff.. but yes, I'm not really seeing how to do this differently, partly because I'm not entirely sure why we need this to begin with. I'm not sure what problem we're solving.

As I recall it...

Steven is working on some sort of tracing infrastructure that involves dynamically allocated trampolines being inserted into some/all functions. The trampoline code can be preempted, but never does voluntary context switches, and presumably never calls anything that does voluntary context switches.

Easy to insert a trampoline, but the trick is removing them.

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The thought is to restore the instructions at the begining of the function in question, wait for an RCU-tasks grace period, then dispose of the trampoline.

Of course, you could imagine disabling preemption or otherwise entering an RCU read-side critical section before transferring to the trampoline, but this was apparently a no-go due to the overhead for small functions.

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So why not use the freezer to get the kernel into a known good state and then remove them trampolines? That would mean a more noticeable disruption of service, but it might be ok for something like disabling a tracer or so. Dunno.

Kernel threads are the problem here, lemme ponder this for a bit.

There was a debate about what points in a kernel thread were "safe points" a few months back, which might be related.

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 8 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/rcu/update.c +8 -0
+		/*
+		 * Each pass through the following loop scans the list
+		 * of holdout tasks, removing any that are no longer
+		 * holdouts.  When the list is empty, we are done.
+		 */
+		while (!list_empty(&rcu_tasks_holdouts)) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ / 10);
+			flush_signals(current);

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 474

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kernel/rcu/update.c +10 -0
+			rcu_read_lock();
+			list_for_each_entry_rcu(t, &rcu_tasks_holdouts,
+						rcu_tasks_holdout_list) {
+				if (smp_load_acquire(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout))
+					continue;
+				list_del_init(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
+				/* @@@ need to check for usermode on CPU. */
+			}
+			rcu_read_unlock();
+		}

That's a potential CPU runtime sink.. imagine having to scan 100k tasks 10 times a second. Polling O(nr_tasks) is not good.

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 14 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 13 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/rcu/update.c +13 -0
+		/*
+		 * Each pass through the following loop scans the list
+		 * of holdout tasks, removing any that are no longer
+		 * holdouts.  When the list is empty, we are done.
+		 */
+		while (!list_empty(&rcu_tasks_holdouts)) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ / 10);
+			flush_signals(current);
+			rcu_read_lock();
+			list_for_each_entry_rcu(t, &rcu_tasks_holdouts,
+						rcu_tasks_holdout_list) {
+				if (smp_load_acquire(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout))
+					continue;
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kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 474

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kernel/rcu/update.c +5 -0
+				list_del_init(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
+				/* @@@ need to check for usermode on CPU. */
+			}
+			rcu_read_unlock();
+		}

That's a potential CPU runtime sink.. imagine having to scan 100k tasks 10 times a second. Polling O(nr_tasks) is not good.

This only scans those tasks that are blocking the RCU-tasks grace period, and this list should get shorter reasonably quickly as each task does a voluntary context switch.

Of course, there is the do_each_thread() / while_each_thread() loop that builds this list, and yes, that does look at each and every task, as does the subsequent loop that waits for pre-existing partially exited tasks to disappear from the list. As noted in an earlier email, I am taking Steven at his word when he said that updates are very infrequent and that he doesn't care about the latency and overhead of the updates.

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <[email protected]>

This commit adds a new RCU-tasks flavor of RCU, which provides call_rcu_tasks(). This RCU flavor's quiescent states are voluntary context switch (not preemption!), userspace execution, and the idle loop. Note that unlike other RCU flavors, these quiescent states occur in tasks, not necessarily CPUs. Includes fixes from Steven Rostedt.

I've not found the userspace transition part, where that at?

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney

kernel/rcu/tiny.c void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user) · line 259

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c +2 -0
@@ -254,6 +254,8 @@ void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user)
 		rcu_sched_qs(cpu);
 	else if (!in_softirq())
 		rcu_bh_qs(cpu);
+	if (user)
+		rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current);
 }

There's nothing like sending email you can't find something... :-)

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user) · line 259

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c +2 -0
@@ -254,6 +254,8 @@ void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user)
 		rcu_sched_qs(cpu);
 	else if (!in_softirq())
 		rcu_bh_qs(cpu);
+	if (user)
+		rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current);
 }

There's nothing like sending email you can't find something... :-)

Well, this is unfortunately only a partial solution. It does not handle the NO_HZ_FULL scheduling-clock-free usermode execution. I have ink on paper indicating a couple of ways to do that, but figured I should get feedback on this stuff before going too much farther.

Thanx, Paul

maintainer
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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user) · line 259

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c +2 -0
@@ -254,6 +254,8 @@ void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user)
 		rcu_sched_qs(cpu);
 	else if (!in_softirq())
 		rcu_bh_qs(cpu);
+	if (user)
+		rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current);
 }

There's nothing like sending email you can't find something... :-)

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Well, this is unfortunately only a partial solution. It does not handle the NO_HZ_FULL scheduling-clock-free usermode execution. I have ink on paper indicating a couple of ways to do that, but figured I should get feedback on this stuff before going too much farther.

Yah, so the nohz_full already has the horrid overhead of user<->kernel switches, so you can 'trivially' hook into those.

FWIW its _the_ thing that makes nohz_full uninteresting for me. The required overhead is insane. But yes there are people willing to pay that etc..

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user) · line 259

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kernel/rcu/tiny.c +2 -0
@@ -254,6 +254,8 @@ void rcu_check_callbacks(int cpu, int user)
 		rcu_sched_qs(cpu);
 	else if (!in_softirq())
 		rcu_bh_qs(cpu);
+	if (user)
+		rcu_note_voluntary_context_switch(current);
 }

There's nothing like sending email you can't find something... :-)

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Well, this is unfortunately only a partial solution. It does not handle the NO_HZ_FULL scheduling-clock-free usermode execution. I have ink on paper indicating a couple of ways to do that, but figured I should get feedback on this stuff before going too much farther.

Yah, so the nohz_full already has the horrid overhead of user<->kernel switches, so you can 'trivially' hook into those.

Yep, the plan is to use RCU's dyntick-idle code as the hook.

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FWIW its _the_ thing that makes nohz_full uninteresting for me. The required overhead is insane. But yes there are people willing to pay that etc..

It would indeed be good to reduce the overhead. I could imagine all sorts of insane approaches involving assuming that CPU write buffers flush in bounded time, though CPU vendors seem unwilling to make guarantees in this area. ;-)

Or is something other than rcu_user_enter() and rcu_user_exit() causing the pain here?

Thanx, Paul

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Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

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FWIW its _the_ thing that makes nohz_full uninteresting for me. The required overhead is insane. But yes there are people willing to pay that etc..

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It would indeed be good to reduce the overhead. I could imagine all sorts of insane approaches involving assuming that CPU write buffers flush in bounded time, though CPU vendors seem unwilling to make guarantees in this area. ;-)

Or is something other than rcu_user_enter() and rcu_user_exit() causing the pain here?

Border guards stamping visas. Note native_sched_clock().

echo 0 > sched_wakeup_granularity_ns
taskset -c 3 pipe-test 1

    CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y 604.2 KHz           CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, nohz_full=3 303.5 KHz
    10.45%   __schedule                     8.74%   native_sched_clock
    10.03%   system_call                    5.63%   __schedule
     4.86%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave         4.75%   _raw_spin_lock
     4.51%   __switch_to                    4.35%   reschedule_interrupt
     4.31%   copy_user_generic_string       3.91%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore
     3.50%   pipe_read                      3.35%   system_call
     3.02%   pipe_write                     2.73%   context_tracking_user_exit
     2.76%   mutex_lock                     2.30%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
     2.30%   native_sched_clock             2.08%   context_tracking_user_enter
     2.27%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec        1.94%   __switch_to
     2.16%   mutex_unlock                   1.88%   copy_user_generic_string
     2.15%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore    1.80%   account_system_time
     1.86%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec      1.77%   rcu_eqs_enter_common.isra.42
     1.85%   vfs_write                      1.60%   pipe_read
     1.67%   new_sync_read                  1.58%   pipe_write
     1.61%   new_sync_write                 1.39%   mutex_lock
     1.49%   vfs_read                       1.37%   enqueue_task_fair
     1.47%   fsnotify                       1.25%   rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.43
     1.43%   __fget_light                   1.14%   get_vtime_delta
     1.36%   enqueue_task_fair              1.11%   flat_send_IPI_mask
     1.28%   finish_task_switch             1.07%   tracesys
     1.26%   dequeue_task_fair              1.03%   dequeue_task_fair
     1.25%   __sb_start_write               1.01%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec
     1.22%   _raw_spin_lock_irq             1.01%   int_check_syscall_exit_work
     1.20%   try_to_wake_up                 0.97%   vfs_write
     1.16%   update_curr                    0.94%   __context_tracking_task_switch
     1.05%   __fsnotify_parent              0.93%   mutex_unlock
     1.03%   pick_next_task_fair            0.88%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec
     1.02%   sys_write                      0.87%   new_sync_write
     1.01%   sys_read                       0.86%   __fget_light
     1.00%   __wake_up_sync_key             0.85%   __sb_start_write
     0.93%   __wake_up_common               0.85%   int_ret_from_sys_call
     0.92%   copy_page_to_iter              0.83%   syscall_trace_leave
     0.90%   check_preempt_wakeup           0.78%   new_sync_read
     0.90%   __srcu_read_lock               0.78%   account_user_time
     0.89%   put_prev_task_fair             0.76%   update_curr
     0.88%   copy_page_from_iter            0.74%   fsnotify
     0.82%   __sb_end_write                 0.73%   try_to_wake_up
     0.76%   __percpu_counter_add           0.71%   finish_task_switch
     0.74%   prepare_to_wait                0.70%   _raw_spin_lock_irq
     0.72%   touch_atime                    0.69%   __wake_up_sync_key
     0.71%   pipe_wait                      0.69%   __tick_nohz_task_switch

pinned endless stat("/", &buf)

    CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y                     CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, nohz_full=3
    17.13%   system_call                    8.78%   system_call
    11.20%   kmem_cache_alloc               8.52%   native_sched_clock
     7.14%   lockref_get_not_dead           6.02%   context_tracking_user_exit
     7.10%   kmem_cache_free                4.53%   kmem_cache_alloc
     6.42%   path_init                      4.46%   _raw_spin_lock
     5.69%   copy_user_generic_string       4.13%   copy_user_generic_string
     5.25%   lockref_put_or_lock            4.01%   kmem_cache_free
     4.14%   strncpy_from_user              3.36%   context_tracking_user_enter
     3.99%   path_lookupat                  3.25%   lockref_get_not_dead
     3.12%   complete_walk                  3.25%   lockref_put_or_lock
     2.91%   getname_flags                  2.86%   rcu_eqs_enter_common.isra.42
     2.88%   cp_new_stat                    2.84%   path_init
     2.79%   vfs_fstatat                    2.56%   rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.43
     2.59%   user_path_at_empty             2.52%   int_check_syscall_exit_work
     1.93%   link_path_walk                 2.51%   tracesys
     1.81%   generic_fillattr               2.08%   cp_new_stat
     1.75%   dput                           2.00%   syscall_trace_leave
     1.71%   filename_lookup.isra.50        1.75%   complete_walk
     1.66%   mntput                         1.69%   path_lookupat
     1.45%   vfs_getattr_nosec              1.58%   strncpy_from_user
     1.04%   final_putname                  1.56%   get_vtime_delta
     1.02%   SYSC_newstat                   1.34%   int_with_check

CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, nohz_full=3

-    8.53%  [kernel]         [k] native_sched_clock                                                                                                                                                                                        ▒
   - native_sched_clock                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ▒
      - 96.76% local_clock                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ▒
         - get_vtime_delta                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ▒
            - 51.95% vtime_account_user                                                                                                                                                                                                    ▒
                 99.96% context_tracking_user_exit                                                                                                                                                                                         ▒
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                    tracesys                                                                                                                                                                                                               ▒
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                    __libc_start_main                                                                                                                                                                                                      ▒
            - 48.05% __vtime_account_system                                                                                                                                                                                                ▒
                 99.96% vtime_user_enter                                                                                                                                                                                                   ▒
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      - 3.23% get_vtime_delta                                                                                                                                                                                                              ▒
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           47.04% __vtime_account_system                                                                                                                                                                                                   ▒
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#35 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 12 lines · Mike Galbraith
Quoted 11 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 3 lines · Peter Zijlstra

FWIW its _the_ thing that makes nohz_full uninteresting for me. The required overhead is insane. But yes there are people willing to pay that etc..

It would indeed be good to reduce the overhead. I could imagine all sorts of insane approaches involving assuming that CPU write buffers flush in bounded time, though CPU vendors seem unwilling to make guarantees in this area. ;-)

Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

Or is something other than rcu_user_enter() and rcu_user_exit() causing the pain here?

Border guards stamping visas. Note native_sched_clock().

Thank you for running this!

So the delta accounting is much of the pain. Hmmm...

Thanx, Paul

Quoted 106 lines

echo 0 > sched_wakeup_granularity_ns
taskset -c 3 pipe-test 1

    CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y 604.2 KHz           CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, nohz_full=3 303.5 KHz
    10.45%   __schedule                     8.74%   native_sched_clock
    10.03%   system_call                    5.63%   __schedule
     4.86%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave         4.75%   _raw_spin_lock
     4.51%   __switch_to                    4.35%   reschedule_interrupt
     4.31%   copy_user_generic_string       3.91%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore
     3.50%   pipe_read                      3.35%   system_call
     3.02%   pipe_write                     2.73%   context_tracking_user_exit
     2.76%   mutex_lock                     2.30%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
     2.30%   native_sched_clock             2.08%   context_tracking_user_enter
     2.27%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec        1.94%   __switch_to
     2.16%   mutex_unlock                   1.88%   copy_user_generic_string
     2.15%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore    1.80%   account_system_time
     1.86%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec      1.77%   rcu_eqs_enter_common.isra.42
     1.85%   vfs_write                      1.60%   pipe_read
     1.67%   new_sync_read                  1.58%   pipe_write
     1.61%   new_sync_write                 1.39%   mutex_lock
     1.49%   vfs_read                       1.37%   enqueue_task_fair
     1.47%   fsnotify                       1.25%   rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.43
     1.43%   __fget_light                   1.14%   get_vtime_delta
     1.36%   enqueue_task_fair              1.11%   flat_send_IPI_mask
     1.28%   finish_task_switch             1.07%   tracesys
     1.26%   dequeue_task_fair              1.03%   dequeue_task_fair
     1.25%   __sb_start_write               1.01%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec
     1.22%   _raw_spin_lock_irq             1.01%   int_check_syscall_exit_work
     1.20%   try_to_wake_up                 0.97%   vfs_write
     1.16%   update_curr                    0.94%   __context_tracking_task_switch
     1.05%   __fsnotify_parent              0.93%   mutex_unlock
     1.03%   pick_next_task_fair            0.88%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec
     1.02%   sys_write                      0.87%   new_sync_write
     1.01%   sys_read                       0.86%   __fget_light
     1.00%   __wake_up_sync_key             0.85%   __sb_start_write
     0.93%   __wake_up_common               0.85%   int_ret_from_sys_call
     0.92%   copy_page_to_iter              0.83%   syscall_trace_leave
     0.90%   check_preempt_wakeup           0.78%   new_sync_read
     0.90%   __srcu_read_lock               0.78%   account_user_time
     0.89%   put_prev_task_fair             0.76%   update_curr
     0.88%   copy_page_from_iter            0.74%   fsnotify
     0.82%   __sb_end_write                 0.73%   try_to_wake_up
     0.76%   __percpu_counter_add           0.71%   finish_task_switch
     0.74%   prepare_to_wait                0.70%   _raw_spin_lock_irq
     0.72%   touch_atime                    0.69%   __wake_up_sync_key
     0.71%   pipe_wait                      0.69%   __tick_nohz_task_switch

pinned endless stat("/", &buf)

    CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y                     CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, nohz_full=3
    17.13%   system_call                    8.78%   system_call
    11.20%   kmem_cache_alloc               8.52%   native_sched_clock
     7.14%   lockref_get_not_dead           6.02%   context_tracking_user_exit
     7.10%   kmem_cache_free                4.53%   kmem_cache_alloc
     6.42%   path_init                      4.46%   _raw_spin_lock
     5.69%   copy_user_generic_string       4.13%   copy_user_generic_string
     5.25%   lockref_put_or_lock            4.01%   kmem_cache_free
     4.14%   strncpy_from_user              3.36%   context_tracking_user_enter
     3.99%   path_lookupat                  3.25%   lockref_get_not_dead
     3.12%   complete_walk                  3.25%   lockref_put_or_lock
     2.91%   getname_flags                  2.86%   rcu_eqs_enter_common.isra.42
     2.88%   cp_new_stat                    2.84%   path_init
     2.79%   vfs_fstatat                    2.56%   rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.43
     2.59%   user_path_at_empty             2.52%   int_check_syscall_exit_work
     1.93%   link_path_walk                 2.51%   tracesys
     1.81%   generic_fillattr               2.08%   cp_new_stat
     1.75%   dput                           2.00%   syscall_trace_leave
     1.71%   filename_lookup.isra.50        1.75%   complete_walk
     1.66%   mntput                         1.69%   path_lookupat
     1.45%   vfs_getattr_nosec              1.58%   strncpy_from_user
     1.04%   final_putname                  1.56%   get_vtime_delta
     1.02%   SYSC_newstat                   1.34%   int_with_check

CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, nohz_full=3

-    8.53%  [kernel]         [k] native_sched_clock                                                                                                                                                                                        ▒
   - native_sched_clock                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ▒
      - 96.76% local_clock                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ▒
         - get_vtime_delta                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ▒
            - 51.95% vtime_account_user                                                                                                                                                                                                    ▒
                 99.96% context_tracking_user_exit                                                                                                                                                                                         ▒
                    syscall_trace_enter                                                                                                                                                                                                    ▒
                    tracesys                                                                                                                                                                                                               ▒
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                    __libc_start_main                                                                                                                                                                                                      ▒
            - 48.05% __vtime_account_system                                                                                                                                                                                                ▒
                 99.96% vtime_user_enter                                                                                                                                                                                                   ▒
                    context_tracking_user_enter                                                                                                                                                                                            ▒
                    syscall_trace_leave                                                                                                                                                                                                    ◆
                    int_check_syscall_exit_work                                                                                                                                                                                            ▒
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                    __libc_start_main                                                                                                                                                                                                      ▒
      - 3.23% get_vtime_delta                                                                                                                                                                                                              ▒
           52.96% vtime_account_user                                                                                                                                                                                                       ▒
              context_tracking_user_exit                                                                                                                                                                                                   ▒
              syscall_trace_enter                                                                                                                                                                                                          ▒
              tracesys                                                                                                                                                                                                                     ▒
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           47.04% __vtime_account_system                                                                                                                                                                                                   ▒
              vtime_user_enter                                                                                                                                                                                                             ▒
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#36 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 1 line · Paul E. McKenney

So the delta accounting is much of the pain. Hmmm...

(overhead picture was incomplete, just fixing that...)

executive summary:

nohz_full=NA cpu=3      604.2 KHz  1.000
nohz_full=3, cpu=3      303.5 KHz   .502
nohz_full=3, cpu=2      460.4 KHz   .761

boring details:

    nohz_full=NA, pipe-test cpu=3           nohz_full=3, pipe-test cpu=3               nohz_full=3, pipe-test cpu=2
    10.45%   __schedule                     8.74%   native_sched_clock                 9.22%   __schedule
    10.03%   system_call                    5.63%   __schedule                         5.29%   system_call
     4.86%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave         4.75%   _raw_spin_lock                     4.79%   context_tracking_user_exit
     4.51%   __switch_to                    4.35%   reschedule_interrupt               3.81%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
     4.31%   copy_user_generic_string       3.91%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore        3.57%   __switch_to
     3.50%   pipe_read                      3.35%   system_call                        3.45%   copy_user_generic_string
     3.02%   pipe_write                     2.73%   context_tracking_user_exit         2.90%   context_tracking_user_enter
     2.76%   mutex_lock                     2.30%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave             2.86%   pipe_read
     2.30%   native_sched_clock             2.08%   context_tracking_user_enter        2.33%   mutex_lock
     2.27%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec        1.94%   __switch_to                        2.14%   pipe_write
     2.16%   mutex_unlock                   1.88%   copy_user_generic_string           1.89%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec
     2.15%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore    1.80%   account_system_time                1.88%   tracesys
     1.86%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec      1.77%   rcu_eqs_enter_common.isra.42       1.78%   native_sched_clock
     1.85%   vfs_write                      1.60%   pipe_read                          1.70%   mutex_unlock
     1.67%   new_sync_read                  1.58%   pipe_write                         1.68%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore
     1.61%   new_sync_write                 1.39%   mutex_lock                         1.67%   int_check_syscall_exit_work
     1.49%   vfs_read                       1.37%   enqueue_task_fair                  1.54%   __context_tracking_task_switch
     1.47%   fsnotify                       1.25%   rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.43        1.39%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec
     1.43%   __fget_light                   1.14%   get_vtime_delta                    1.38%   new_sync_read
     1.36%   enqueue_task_fair              1.11%   flat_send_IPI_mask                 1.38%   __tick_nohz_task_switch
     1.28%   finish_task_switch             1.07%   tracesys                           1.37%   syscall_trace_leave
     1.26%   dequeue_task_fair              1.03%   dequeue_task_fair                  1.35%   vfs_write
     1.25%   __sb_start_write               1.01%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec            1.34%   new_sync_write
     1.22%   _raw_spin_lock_irq             1.01%   int_check_syscall_exit_work        1.31%   int_ret_from_sys_call
     1.20%   try_to_wake_up                 0.97%   vfs_write                          1.30%   enqueue_task_fair
     1.16%   update_curr                    0.94%   __context_tracking_task_switch     1.23%   fsnotify
     1.05%   __fsnotify_parent              0.93%   mutex_unlock                       1.22%   finish_task_switch
     1.03%   pick_next_task_fair            0.88%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec          1.14%   vfs_read
     1.02%   sys_write                      0.87%   new_sync_write                     1.12%   _raw_spin_lock_irq
     1.01%   sys_read                       0.86%   __fget_light                       1.08%   dequeue_task_fair
     1.00%   __wake_up_sync_key             0.85%   __sb_start_write                   1.06%   sys_read
     0.93%   __wake_up_common               0.85%   int_ret_from_sys_call              1.04%   int_with_check
     0.92%   copy_page_to_iter              0.83%   syscall_trace_leave                1.02%   update_curr
     0.90%   check_preempt_wakeup           0.78%   new_sync_read                      0.99%   syscall_trace_enter
     0.90%   __srcu_read_lock               0.78%   account_user_time                  0.96%   __fget_light
     0.89%   put_prev_task_fair             0.76%   update_curr                        0.93%   __sb_start_write
     0.88%   copy_page_from_iter            0.74%   fsnotify                           0.89%   copy_page_to_iter
     0.82%   __sb_end_write                 0.73%   try_to_wake_up                     0.87%   try_to_wake_up
     0.76%   __percpu_counter_add           0.71%   finish_task_switch                 0.86%   check_preempt_wakeup
     0.74%   prepare_to_wait                0.70%   _raw_spin_lock_irq                 0.86%   sys_write
     0.72%   touch_atime                    0.69%   __wake_up_sync_key                 0.83%   __fsnotify_parent
     0.71%   pipe_wait                      0.69%   __tick_nohz_task_switch            0.81%   __wake_up_sync_key
#37 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 5 lines · Mike Galbraith
Quoted 1 line · Paul E. McKenney

So the delta accounting is much of the pain. Hmmm...

(overhead picture was incomplete, just fixing that...)

Thank you again!!!

And I have to ask...

Does building with CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE=y slow things down even more? If so, that would give me a rough idea of the cost of RCU's dyntick-idle handling.

Thanx, Paul

Quoted 51 lines

executive summary:

nohz_full=NA cpu=3      604.2 KHz  1.000
nohz_full=3, cpu=3      303.5 KHz   .502
nohz_full=3, cpu=2      460.4 KHz   .761

boring details:

    nohz_full=NA, pipe-test cpu=3           nohz_full=3, pipe-test cpu=3               nohz_full=3, pipe-test cpu=2
    10.45%   __schedule                     8.74%   native_sched_clock                 9.22%   __schedule
    10.03%   system_call                    5.63%   __schedule                         5.29%   system_call
     4.86%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave         4.75%   _raw_spin_lock                     4.79%   context_tracking_user_exit
     4.51%   __switch_to                    4.35%   reschedule_interrupt               3.81%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
     4.31%   copy_user_generic_string       3.91%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore        3.57%   __switch_to
     3.50%   pipe_read                      3.35%   system_call                        3.45%   copy_user_generic_string
     3.02%   pipe_write                     2.73%   context_tracking_user_exit         2.90%   context_tracking_user_enter
     2.76%   mutex_lock                     2.30%   _raw_spin_lock_irqsave             2.86%   pipe_read
     2.30%   native_sched_clock             2.08%   context_tracking_user_enter        2.33%   mutex_lock
     2.27%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec        1.94%   __switch_to                        2.14%   pipe_write
     2.16%   mutex_unlock                   1.88%   copy_user_generic_string           1.89%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec
     2.15%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore    1.80%   account_system_time                1.88%   tracesys
     1.86%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec      1.77%   rcu_eqs_enter_common.isra.42       1.78%   native_sched_clock
     1.85%   vfs_write                      1.60%   pipe_read                          1.70%   mutex_unlock
     1.67%   new_sync_read                  1.58%   pipe_write                         1.68%   _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore
     1.61%   new_sync_write                 1.39%   mutex_lock                         1.67%   int_check_syscall_exit_work
     1.49%   vfs_read                       1.37%   enqueue_task_fair                  1.54%   __context_tracking_task_switch
     1.47%   fsnotify                       1.25%   rcu_eqs_exit_common.isra.43        1.39%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec
     1.43%   __fget_light                   1.14%   get_vtime_delta                    1.38%   new_sync_read
     1.36%   enqueue_task_fair              1.11%   flat_send_IPI_mask                 1.38%   __tick_nohz_task_switch
     1.28%   finish_task_switch             1.07%   tracesys                           1.37%   syscall_trace_leave
     1.26%   dequeue_task_fair              1.03%   dequeue_task_fair                  1.35%   vfs_write
     1.25%   __sb_start_write               1.01%   copy_page_to_iter_iovec            1.34%   new_sync_write
     1.22%   _raw_spin_lock_irq             1.01%   int_check_syscall_exit_work        1.31%   int_ret_from_sys_call
     1.20%   try_to_wake_up                 0.97%   vfs_write                          1.30%   enqueue_task_fair
     1.16%   update_curr                    0.94%   __context_tracking_task_switch     1.23%   fsnotify
     1.05%   __fsnotify_parent              0.93%   mutex_unlock                       1.22%   finish_task_switch
     1.03%   pick_next_task_fair            0.88%   copy_page_from_iter_iovec          1.14%   vfs_read
     1.02%   sys_write                      0.87%   new_sync_write                     1.12%   _raw_spin_lock_irq
     1.01%   sys_read                       0.86%   __fget_light                       1.08%   dequeue_task_fair
     1.00%   __wake_up_sync_key             0.85%   __sb_start_write                   1.06%   sys_read
     0.93%   __wake_up_common               0.85%   int_ret_from_sys_call              1.04%   int_with_check
     0.92%   copy_page_to_iter              0.83%   syscall_trace_leave                1.02%   update_curr
     0.90%   check_preempt_wakeup           0.78%   new_sync_read                      0.99%   syscall_trace_enter
     0.90%   __srcu_read_lock               0.78%   account_user_time                  0.96%   __fget_light
     0.89%   put_prev_task_fair             0.76%   update_curr                        0.93%   __sb_start_write
     0.88%   copy_page_from_iter            0.74%   fsnotify                           0.89%   copy_page_to_iter
     0.82%   __sb_end_write                 0.73%   try_to_wake_up                     0.87%   try_to_wake_up
     0.76%   __percpu_counter_add           0.71%   finish_task_switch                 0.86%   check_preempt_wakeup
     0.74%   prepare_to_wait                0.70%   _raw_spin_lock_irq                 0.86%   sys_write
     0.72%   touch_atime                    0.69%   __wake_up_sync_key                 0.83%   __fsnotify_parent
     0.71%   pipe_wait                      0.69%   __tick_nohz_task_switch            0.81%   __wake_up_sync_key
#38 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 3 lines · Paul E. McKenney

Does building with CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE=y slow things down even more? If so, that would give me a rough idea of the cost of RCU's dyntick-idle handling.

Nope. Deltas are all down in the statistical frog hair.

-Mike

#39 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 7 lines · Mike Galbraith
Quoted 3 lines · Paul E. McKenney

Does building with CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_SYSIDLE=y slow things down even more? If so, that would give me a rough idea of the cost of RCU's dyntick-idle handling.

Nope. Deltas are all down in the statistical frog hair.

OK, then I guess that trying to squeeze down RCU's dyntick-idle detection won't be much help. Worth a thought, though, and thank you for running the tests!

Thanx, Paul

#40 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 7 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/rcu/update.c +7 -0
+		/*
+		 * Each pass through the following loop scans the list
+		 * of holdout tasks, removing any that are no longer
+		 * holdouts.  When the list is empty, we are done.
+		 */
+		while (!list_empty(&rcu_tasks_holdouts)) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ / 10);

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 473

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +10 -0
+			flush_signals(current);
+			rcu_read_lock();
+			list_for_each_entry_rcu(t, &rcu_tasks_holdouts,
+						rcu_tasks_holdout_list) {
+				if (smp_load_acquire(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout))
+					continue;
+				list_del_init(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
+				/* @@@ need to check for usermode on CPU. */
+			}
+			rcu_read_unlock();

Maybe I missed something. The task @t may already exited and we access to the stale memory here if without patch 8/9.

#41 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 14 lines · Lai Jiangshan
Quoted 12 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/rcu/update.c +12 -0
+		/*
+		 * Each pass through the following loop scans the list
+		 * of holdout tasks, removing any that are no longer
+		 * holdouts.  When the list is empty, we are done.
+		 */
+		while (!list_empty(&rcu_tasks_holdouts)) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ / 10);
+			flush_signals(current);
+			rcu_read_lock();
+			list_for_each_entry_rcu(t, &rcu_tasks_holdouts,
+						rcu_tasks_holdout_list) {
+				if (smp_load_acquire(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout))
Quoted 8 lines

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 473

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +5 -0
+					continue;
+				list_del_init(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list);
+				/* @@@ need to check for usermode on CPU. */
+			}
+			rcu_read_unlock();

Maybe I missed something. The task @t may already exited and we access to the stale memory here if without patch 8/9.

Yep, patch 8/9 is not optional.

Thanx, Paul

#42 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 40 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/rcu/update.c +40 -0
+/* RCU-tasks kthread that detects grace periods and invokes callbacks. */
+static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
+{
+	unsigned long flags;
+	struct task_struct *g, *t;
+	struct rcu_head *list;
+	struct rcu_head *next;
+
+	/* FIXME: Add housekeeping affinity. */
+
+	/*
+	 * Each pass through the following loop makes one check for
+	 * newly arrived callbacks, and, if there are some, waits for
+	 * one RCU-tasks grace period and then invokes the callbacks.
+	 * This loop is terminated by the system going down.  ;-)
+	 */
+	for (;;) {
+
+		/* Pick up any new callbacks. */
+		raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+		smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(); /* Enforce GP memory ordering. */
+		list = rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_head = NULL;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = &rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+
+		/* If there were none, wait a bit and start over. */
+		if (!list) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ);
+			flush_signals(current);
+			continue;
+		}
+
+		/*
+		 * There were callbacks, so we need to wait for an
+		 * RCU-tasks grace period.  Start off by scanning
+		 * the task list for tasks that are not already
+		 * voluntarily blocked.  Mark these tasks and make
+		 * a list of them in rcu_tasks_holdouts.
+		 */

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 439

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +10 -0
+		rcu_read_lock();
+		do_each_thread(g, t) {
+			if (t != current && ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) &&
+			    !is_idle_task(t)) {
+				t->rcu_tasks_holdout = 1;
+				list_add(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list,
+					 &rcu_tasks_holdouts);
+			}
+		} while_each_thread(g, t);
+		rcu_read_unlock();

I think you need for_each_process_thread() to be RCU-safe. while_each_thread() has shown to be racy against exec even with rcu_read_lock().

#43 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 46 lines · Frederic Weisbecker
Quoted 45 lines · Paul E. McKenney
kernel/rcu/update.c +45 -0
+/* RCU-tasks kthread that detects grace periods and invokes callbacks. */
+static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
+{
+	unsigned long flags;
+	struct task_struct *g, *t;
+	struct rcu_head *list;
+	struct rcu_head *next;
+
+	/* FIXME: Add housekeeping affinity. */
+
+	/*
+	 * Each pass through the following loop makes one check for
+	 * newly arrived callbacks, and, if there are some, waits for
+	 * one RCU-tasks grace period and then invokes the callbacks.
+	 * This loop is terminated by the system going down.  ;-)
+	 */
+	for (;;) {
+
+		/* Pick up any new callbacks. */
+		raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+		smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(); /* Enforce GP memory ordering. */
+		list = rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_head = NULL;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = &rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+
+		/* If there were none, wait a bit and start over. */
+		if (!list) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ);
+			flush_signals(current);
+			continue;
+		}
+
+		/*
+		 * There were callbacks, so we need to wait for an
+		 * RCU-tasks grace period.  Start off by scanning
+		 * the task list for tasks that are not already
+		 * voluntarily blocked.  Mark these tasks and make
+		 * a list of them in rcu_tasks_holdouts.
+		 */
+		rcu_read_lock();
+		do_each_thread(g, t) {
+			if (t != current && ACCESS_ONCE(t->on_rq) &&
+			    !is_idle_task(t)) {
+				t->rcu_tasks_holdout = 1;
Quoted 8 lines

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 439

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +5 -0
+				list_add(&t->rcu_tasks_holdout_list,
+					 &rcu_tasks_holdouts);
+			}
+		} while_each_thread(g, t);
+		rcu_read_unlock();

I think you need for_each_process_thread() to be RCU-safe. while_each_thread() has shown to be racy against exec even with rcu_read_lock().

Good catch, thank you!

Thanx, Paul

#44 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

In reply to Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 6 lines · Paul E. McKenney

This commit adds a new RCU-tasks flavor of RCU, which provides call_rcu_tasks(). This RCU flavor's quiescent states are voluntary context switch (not preemption!), userspace execution, and the idle loop. Note that unlike other RCU flavors, these quiescent states occur in tasks, not necessarily CPUs. Includes fixes from Steven Rostedt.

I still hope I will read this series later. Not that I really hope I will understand it ;)

Just one question for now,

Quoted 19 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +19 -0
+static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
+{
+	unsigned long flags;
+	struct task_struct *g, *t;
+	struct rcu_head *list;
+	struct rcu_head *next;
+
+	/* FIXME: Add housekeeping affinity. */
+
+	/*
+	 * Each pass through the following loop makes one check for
+	 * newly arrived callbacks, and, if there are some, waits for
+	 * one RCU-tasks grace period and then invokes the callbacks.
+	 * This loop is terminated by the system going down.  ;-)
+	 */
+	for (;;) {
+
+		/* Pick up any new callbacks. */
+		raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 419

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +10 -0
+		smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(); /* Enforce GP memory ordering. */
+		list = rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_head = NULL;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = &rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+
+		/* If there were none, wait a bit and start over. */
+		if (!list) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ);
+			flush_signals(current);

Why? And I see more flush_signals() in the current kernel/rcu/ code. Unless a kthread does allow_signal() it can't have a pending signal?

Oleg.

#45 lore raw

Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/9] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()

Quoted 10 lines · Oleg Nesterov
Quoted 6 lines · Paul E. McKenney

This commit adds a new RCU-tasks flavor of RCU, which provides call_rcu_tasks(). This RCU flavor's quiescent states are voluntary context switch (not preemption!), userspace execution, and the idle loop. Note that unlike other RCU flavors, these quiescent states occur in tasks, not necessarily CPUs. Includes fixes from Steven Rostedt.

I still hope I will read this series later. Not that I really hope I will understand it ;)

Well, don't put too much time into it just now. Bozo here has been doing concurrent programming so long that he sometimes misses opportunities for single-threaded programming. Hence the locked-list stuff. :-/

Quoted 26 lines

Just one question for now,

Quoted 24 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +24 -0
+static int __noreturn rcu_tasks_kthread(void *arg)
+{
+	unsigned long flags;
+	struct task_struct *g, *t;
+	struct rcu_head *list;
+	struct rcu_head *next;
+
+	/* FIXME: Add housekeeping affinity. */
+
+	/*
+	 * Each pass through the following loop makes one check for
+	 * newly arrived callbacks, and, if there are some, waits for
+	 * one RCU-tasks grace period and then invokes the callbacks.
+	 * This loop is terminated by the system going down.  ;-)
+	 */
+	for (;;) {
+
+		/* Pick up any new callbacks. */
+		raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
+		smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(); /* Enforce GP memory ordering. */
+		list = rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_head = NULL;
+		rcu_tasks_cbs_tail = &rcu_tasks_cbs_head;
+		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&rcu_tasks_cbs_lock, flags);
Quoted 8 lines

kernel/rcu/update.c static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void) · line 419

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/rcu/update.c +5 -0
+
+		/* If there were none, wait a bit and start over. */
+		if (!list) {
+			schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ);
+			flush_signals(current);

Why? And I see more flush_signals() in the current kernel/rcu/ code. Unless a kthread does allow_signal() it can't have a pending signal?

Because I am overly paranoid. ;-)

Thanx, Paul