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Remaining undocumented Configure.help symbols

DISCUSSION Eric S. Raymond 4 participants 7 messages May 29, 2001 – Jun 1, 2001

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With the help of a number of contributors, Steven Cole and I have managed to cut the list of undocumented configuration symbols from the previous 55 to 10. The three *_NET_SCH_* symbols that didn't appear in the previous listing have popped up because my cross-referencer was fooled by some old comments in Configure.help.

Networking:

CONFIG_NET_CLS_POLICE
CONFIG_NET_CLS_TCINDEX
CONFIG_NET_SCH_INGRESS

ARM port:

CONFIG_SA1100_SHERMAN

PPC port:

CONFIG_EST8260
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MPC8xx_IDE
CONFIG_IRQ_ALL_CPUS
CONFIG_USE_MDIO

CRIS port:

CONFIG_ETRAX_FLASH_BUSWIDTH
CONFIG_ETRAX_I2C_USES_PB_NOT_PB_I2C

As before, if you know enough about any of these configuration options to write a help entry, please send it to me.

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CONFIG_NET_CLS_TCINDEX

If you say Y here, you will be able to classify outgoing packets according to the tc_index field of the skb. You will want this feature if you want to implement Differentiates Services useing sch_dsmark. If unsure, say Y.

This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM here and read Documentation/modules.txt

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CONFIG_NET_SCH_INGRESS

If you say Y here, you will be able to police incoming bandwidth and drop packets when this bandwidth exceeds your desired rate. If unsure, say Y.

This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM here and read Documentation/modules.txt

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As before, if you know enough about any of these configuration options to write a help entry, please send it to me.

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Harald Welte <[email protected]>:

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CONFIG_NET_CLS_TCINDEX

If you say Y here, you will be able to classify outgoing packets according to the tc_index field of the skb. You will want this feature if you want to implement Differentiates Services useing sch_dsmark. If unsure, say Y.

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This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM here and read Documentation/modules.txt

Looks good.

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CONFIG_NET_SCH_INGRESS

If you say Y here, you will be able to police incoming bandwidth and drop packets when this bandwidth exceeds your desired rate. If unsure, say Y.

This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM here and read Documentation/modules.txt

I'm going to assume that the cls_tcindex.o in the second entry is a cut'n'paste error and should read sch_ingress.o.

Should the CLS_POLICE entry, then, read like this?

Traffic policing (needed for in/egress)
CONFIG_NET_CLS_POLICE
Say Y to support traffic policing (bandwidth limits). Needed for ingress and egress rate limiting.

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Harald Welte <[email protected]>:

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CONFIG_NET_CLS_TCINDEX

If you say Y here, you will be able to classify outgoing packets according to the tc_index field of the skb. You will want this feature if you want to implement Differentiates Services useing sch_dsmark. If unsure, say Y.

Change "useing" to "using". ;)

Change "Differentiates" to "Differentiated" (at least according to ./net/sched/sch_dsmark.c).

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This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM

Shouldn't this be "say M" (and not "say MM")?

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here and read Documentation/modules.txt

Looks good.

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CONFIG_NET_SCH_INGRESS

If you say Y here, you will be able to police incoming bandwidth and drop packets when this bandwidth exceeds your desired rate. If unsure, say Y.

This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM

Shouldn't this be "say M"?

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here and read Documentation/modules.txt

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The verbiage in these entries seems 'make config' / text-interaction -centric. Granted, that's likely the context most kernel builders will use, but it would seem fair to at least consider a broader audience who may be using more gui-ish tools wrapped around extant content.

For instance, a click-a-node-to-choose-an-option-gui or click-a-box-to -choose-an-option-set-and-optionally-drill-down-to-details-gui would probably (when asked) present the Configure.help entry for a given option, but the "If you say Y here ... If unsure say Y" wording would not be apropos in such a presentation context.

Something akin to "Select this option to enable classification of egress traffic based on ..." might serve differing presentation modes more adequately.

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Harald Welte <[email protected]>:

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CONFIG_NET_CLS_TCINDEX

If you say Y here, you will be able to classify outgoing packets according to the tc_index field of the skb. You will want this feature if you want to implement Differentiates Services useing sch_dsmark. If unsure, say Y.

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This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM here and read Documentation/modules.txt

Looks good.

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CONFIG_NET_SCH_INGRESS

If you say Y here, you will be able to police incoming bandwidth and drop packets when this bandwidth exceeds your desired rate. If unsure, say Y.

This code is also available as a module called cls_tcindex.o ( = code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel whenever you want). If you want to compile it as a module, say MM here and read Documentation/modules.txt

I'm going to assume that the cls_tcindex.o in the second entry is a cut'n'paste error and should read sch_ingress.o.

Should the CLS_POLICE entry, then, read like this?

Traffic policing (needed for in/egress)
CONFIG_NET_CLS_POLICE
Say Y to support traffic policing (bandwidth limits). Needed for ingress and egress rate limiting.

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Jim Freeman <[email protected]>:

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The verbiage in these entries seems 'make config' / text-interaction -centric. Granted, that's likely the context most kernel builders will use, but it would seem fair to at least consider a broader audience who may be using more gui-ish tools wrapped around extant content.

This is a general problem with almost all the existing entries, and will have to await a future editing pass for solution. For now I think it's more important to have consistent cues that users can recognize, even if they're not literally appropriate.

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Jim Freeman <[email protected]>:

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The verbiage in these entries seems 'make config' / text-interaction -centric. Granted, that's likely the context most kernel builders will use, but it would seem fair to at least consider a broader audience who may be using more gui-ish tools wrapped around extant content.

This is a general problem with almost all the existing entries, and will have to await a future editing pass for solution. For now I think it's more important to have consistent cues that users can recognize, even if they're not literally appropriate.

Agreed - in the meantime, just wanted to have the issue acknowledged and put on the roadmap.