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OT Pete Zaitcev 2 participants 2 messages Jun 20, 2001 1 message not in the archive

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This [code morphing and binary tranlation]
was set off to provide compensation for the biggest hurdle
of VLIW design - insane code size and partially huge memmory bus bandwidth designs due to this. (Why do you think the itanim sucks on integer performance?)

First, Merced does not suck on integer performance. It does about 300 SPEC CPU2000 at 733MHz, give or take, subject to compiler improvements.
That blows all RISCs out of the water (except Alpha, yet. The best result they submitted is 511 base 533 peak at 833MHz).

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[...] Well but in relity underclocked modern
design optimized for power consumtions beat the transmeta chip easly: Geode, and the recently announced VIA chip to name a few.

Man, where do you get this falsehood. TM-5400 is way, way faster than Geode (several times for any benchmark). This is exactly the reason why Transmetians love to showcase DVD playing and other performance related stuff - it is where they beat Geode. Geode's performance is quite adequate for kiosk/POS app and it's a formiddable competitor for anything that needs no performance.

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In comparision to chip design esp. targetted at low power consumtion the transmeta chip is laughable: this ARM please! My psion beats *ANY* chip from them by huge magnitude.

"Beats" by what metric? Sucks harder?

-- Pete

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This is exactly the reason why Transmetians love to showcase DVD playing and other performance related stuff - it is where they beat Geode. Geode's performance is quite adequate for kiosk/POS app and it's a formiddable

Geode is jut about capable of MPEG1. The VIA processors are extremely interesting in the price/performance positioning. Neither of them are going to win a power consumption battle with an ARM