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The latest -ac patch to the stable Linux kernels

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all the -ac kernels need to be treated as -pre

if you watch in detail you can pick ones that are more likly to be stable then others, but some of them will be intentionally cutting edge.

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Quoted 41 lines · Adam McKenna

Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:37:10 -0700
From: Adam McKenna <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: The latest -ac patch to the stable Linux kernels

Quoted 4 lines · David Ford

Not at all.

Alan's most recent patch is in line with the 2.4.19 series of patches, these are pre patches to the upcoming 2.4.19.

Right, but (as far as I know) 2.4.19-pre6 is not considered the "stable linux kernel", is it? So how could 2.4.19-pre5-ac3 be the latest -ac patch to the stable linux kernel? It's more like "the latest -ac patch to the latest prepatch for the stable linux kernel".

What I'm really complaining about is that for people who don't like to use -pre kernels (like me), [email protected] is useless for finding out what the latest -ac patch is to a non-pre kernel.

What would be nice is something like this:

The latest -ac patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.4.18-ac3
The latest -ac pre-patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.4.19-pre5-ac3

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Regardless. Alan is free to name his patches however he wants.

Of course he is. I don't see what this has to do with anything I've said, however.

--Adam

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Quoted 2 lines · David Lang

all the -ac kernels need to be treated as -pre

Exactly.

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if you watch in detail you can pick ones that are more likly to be stable then others, but some of them will be intentionally cutting edge.

Alan does have a track record of stable kernels, but his tree does have quite a lot of experimental patches in it. He does warn about patches that could be quite bad though (think ide and the recent suspend patches).

In fact, I'm using some -ac kernels in production after it has survived on my workstation for a while and there haven't been any bug reports for the stuff I use...

Also, 2.4.18 is the first time that I've seen Alan have -ac patches directly against 2.4.xx instead of 2.4.xx-pre. Unless he says otherwise I wouldn't expect that to happen again.

Mike

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Quoted 4 lines · David Lang

all the -ac kernels need to be treated as -pre

if you watch in detail you can pick ones that are more likly to be stable then others, but some of them will be intentionally cutting edge.

I was under the impression that the -ac line has a bunch of VM fixes that haven't been merged into the main tree yet, which should make it better under high loads than the standard kernel.

Is this no longer the case?

--Adam

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Quoted 11 lines · Adam McKenna
Quoted 4 lines · David Lang

all the -ac kernels need to be treated as -pre

if you watch in detail you can pick ones that are more likly to be stable then others, but some of them will be intentionally cutting edge.

I was under the impression that the -ac line has a bunch of VM fixes that haven't been merged into the main tree yet, which should make it better under high loads than the standard kernel.

Is this no longer the case?

It is, except that the changes currently in -ac are more suitable to be merged into 2.5 first ;)

regards,

Rik

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