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DISCUSSION Russell Coker 5 participants 5 messages May 23, 2003 – May 25, 2003

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I've noticed that the modules ide-taskfile.o and ide-io.o depend on each other if you compile the 2.4.21-rc3 with IDE as modules.

Is this a bug in the kernel or are we supposed to use a new module loader that can resolve such things?

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Hello Russell,

On Fri, 23 May 2003 22:56:17 +1000
Russell Coker <[email protected]> wrote:

  | I've noticed that the modules ide-taskfile.o and ide-io.o depend on each other 
  | if you compile the 2.4.21-rc3 with IDE as modules.
  | 
  | Is this a bug in the kernel or are we supposed to use a new module loader that 
  | can resolve such things?

IIRC, according to Alan Cox, on LKML, IDE shouldn't even work as a module, well, if you value your data.

So why don't you include IDE statically in your kernel ?

Thanks,

Philippe

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Am Freitag, 23. Mai 2003 16:13 schrieb Philippe Gramoullé:

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Hello Russell,

On Fri, 23 May 2003 22:56:17 +1000

Russell Coker <[email protected]> wrote:

  | I've noticed that the modules ide-taskfile.o and ide-io.o depend on
  | each other if you compile the 2.4.21-rc3 with IDE as modules.
  |
  | Is this a bug in the kernel or are we supposed to use a new module
  | loader that can resolve such things?
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IIRC, according to Alan Cox, on LKML, IDE shouldn't even work as a module, well, if you value your data.

So why don't you include IDE statically in your kernel ?

Because it worked for ages and do NOT since 2.4.19 or so.

I have all SCSI and need ATA/IDE only from time to time to recover bad ATA/IDE disks for some friends or customers.

ATA/IDE shouldn't be demanded thing in the kernel.

Regards,
Dieter

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IIRC, according to Alan Cox, on LKML, IDE shouldn't even work as a module, well, if you value your data.

Thats only true for loading drivers into a live system where the drive is already active in legacy mode, and its not something 2.4.19 allowed so I disabled it again

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So why don't you include IDE statically in your kernel ?

Because it worked for ages and do NOT since 2.4.19 or so.

I have all SCSI and need ATA/IDE only from time to time to recover bad ATA/IDE disks for some friends or customers.

ATA/IDE shouldn't be demanded thing in the kernel.

Sure. someone just has to fix the makefiles

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Quoted 5 lines · Russell Coker

I've noticed that the modules ide-taskfile.o and ide-io.o depend on each other if you compile the 2.4.21-rc3 with IDE as modules.

Is this a bug in the kernel or are we supposed to use a new module loader that can resolve such things?

Kernel bug. IDE doesn't work as a module currently. IMHO, the corresponding configuration option should be made "yes/no" rather than "yes/module/no" for the time being. I posted such a suggestion to linux-kernel earlier today ("yesterday" for Australians at home :-)

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