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2.5.70 hangs on boot

DISCUSSION OverrideX 3 participants 6 messages Jun 13, 2003 – Jun 14, 2003

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Hi all,

I've tried 2.5.70, 2.5.70-mm8 and 2.5.70-bk17. All of them hang while booting, the last message they display is "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." then they just sit blank and boot no further. I've booted previous 2.5.x kernels on this system, the last I had used was 2.5.63. My Hardware and other info is below, .config is attached. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Is there any other information I can provide to help debuging? Please cc me any replies as my mailbox can't take the full brunt of this mailing list, thanks -Dan

Dual Athlon 1.4ghz (1700+)
Tyan Tiger MPX mobo (AMD-760 MPX chipset)
512MB ram
Software Raid-1 /boot partition, Software Raid-0 /, /var, /home, /usr partitions
lilo 22.5.4
Debian Sid

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Quoted 10 lines · OverrideX

Hi all,

I've tried 2.5.70, 2.5.70-mm8 and 2.5.70-bk17. All of them hang while booting, the last message they display is "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." then they just sit blank and boot no further. I've booted previous 2.5.x kernels on this system, the last I had used was 2.5.63. My Hardware and other info is below, .config is attached. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Is there any other information I can provide to help debuging? Please cc me any replies as my mailbox can't take the full brunt of this mailing list, thanks -Dan

Ugh, what a mess. Take a look at http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
You'll notice that your .config doesn't contain most of those in the 'gotchas' section that it suggests you make sure you have.

The root cause of this is that you have CONFIG_INPUT=m.

CONFIG_VT only shows up if you have CONFIG_INPUT=y.
With it set to =m a whole bunch of options never ever show up in the configuration.

This really wants fixing badly. The source of this problem seems to be people taking 2.4 configs (where CONFIG_INPUT=m was fine), and it all going pear-shaped when people make oldconfig. I'm aware of the problems that oldconfig can't override variables set in .config, so how about just renaming CONFIG_INPUT to something else ?

Dave

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Quoted 22 lines · Dave Jones
Quoted 10 lines · OverrideX

Hi all,

I've tried 2.5.70, 2.5.70-mm8 and 2.5.70-bk17. All of them hang while booting, the last message they display is "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." then they just sit blank and boot no further. I've booted previous 2.5.x kernels on this system, the last I had used was 2.5.63. My Hardware and other info is below, .config is attached. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Is there any other information I can provide to help debuging? Please cc me any replies as my mailbox can't take the full brunt of this mailing list, thanks -Dan

Ugh, what a mess. Take a look at http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
You'll notice that your .config doesn't contain most of those in the 'gotchas' section that it suggests you make sure you have.

The root cause of this is that you have CONFIG_INPUT=m.

CONFIG_VT only shows up if you have CONFIG_INPUT=y.
With it set to =m a whole bunch of options never ever show up in the configuration.

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This really wants fixing badly. The source of this problem seems to be people taking 2.4 configs (where CONFIG_INPUT=m was fine), and it all going pear-shaped when people make oldconfig. I'm aware of the problems that oldconfig can't override variables set in .config, so how about just renaming CONFIG_INPUT to something else ?

I'm considering CONFIG_INPUT_ADVANCED, which would default to 'n', like with the font and parition config and if set to 'n', all the modules needed for 2.4 functional compatibility would be automatically built in. What do you think?

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Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR
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Quoted 10 lines · Vojtech Pavlik
Quoted 5 lines

This really wants fixing badly. The source of this problem seems to be people taking 2.4 configs (where CONFIG_INPUT=m was fine), and it all going pear-shaped when people make oldconfig. I'm aware of the problems that oldconfig can't override variables set in .config, so how about just renaming CONFIG_INPUT to something else ?

I'm considering CONFIG_INPUT_ADVANCED, which would default to 'n', like with the font and parition config and if set to 'n', all the modules needed for 2.4 functional compatibility would be automatically built in. What do you think?

I don't see how this helps the situation. CONFIG_INPUT=m from a 2.4 config will still make CONFIG_VT not show up in the 2.5 config.

Dave

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Quoted 8 lines · Dave Jones
Quoted 6 lines · Vojtech Pavlik
Quoted 5 lines

This really wants fixing badly. The source of this problem seems to be people taking 2.4 configs (where CONFIG_INPUT=m was fine), and it all going pear-shaped when people make oldconfig. I'm aware of the problems that oldconfig can't override variables set in .config, so how about just renaming CONFIG_INPUT to something else ?

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Quoted 4 lines

I'm considering CONFIG_INPUT_ADVANCED, which would default to 'n', like with the font and parition config and if set to 'n', all the modules needed for 2.4 functional compatibility would be automatically built in. What do you think?

I don't see how this helps the situation. CONFIG_INPUT=m from a 2.4 config will still make CONFIG_VT not show up in the 2.5 config.

I was thinking this:

if CONFIG_INPUT_ADVANCED
config INPUT_MOUSEDEV
tristate "Mouse interface" default y
depends on INPUT
config INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX
bool "Provide legacy /dev/psaux device" default y
depends on INPUT_MOUSEDEV
else
config INPUT_MOUSEDEV
tristate
default y
config INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX
bool
default y
endif

Same for CONFIG_VT and the other stuff that needs to be there to be working. CONFIG_INPUT_ADVANCED is in no 2.4 kernel config and thus will be 'n' for unsuspecting people doing 'make oldconfig'.

Then the Kconfig will define all the VT and INPUT and SERIO stuff to 'y' without asking.

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Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR
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Quoted 10 lines · Dave Jones

Ugh, what a mess. Take a look at http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
You'll notice that your .config doesn't contain most of those in the 'gotchas' section that it suggests you make sure you have.

The root cause of this is that you have CONFIG_INPUT=m.

CONFIG_VT only shows up if you have CONFIG_INPUT=y.
With it set to =m a whole bunch of options never ever show up in the configuration.

Quoted 7 lines

This really wants fixing badly. The source of this problem seems to be people taking 2.4 configs (where CONFIG_INPUT=m was fine), and it all going pear-shaped when people make oldconfig. I'm aware of the problems that oldconfig can't override variables set in .config, so how about just renaming CONFIG_INPUT to something else ?

Dave

Yep, this was the problem thanks for the heads up -Dan

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