Linux 2.5.71
Quoted 3 lines · Linus
I think I'll call this kernel the "sticky turtle", in honor of that historic "greased weasel" kernel, and as a comment on how sadly dependent I've become on the daily BK snapshots. It's been too long since 2.5.70.
I think more releases are good but for the snapshot people...
There are multiple options:
bk pull bk://linux.bkbits.net/linux-2.5 cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/home/cvs co linux-2.5
and Ben Collins is working on a bkSVN gateway (it's actually a BK->CVS->SVN but whatever) so that will be an option soon as well. Huh, while I'm thinking about it since we're hosting the CVS tree there is no good reason not to host the SVN tree as well, I have to believe that SVN uses less bandwidth than CVS (please, say it's so). Ben, send me or Davem an ssh2 key and we'll set you up with an account on kernel.bkbits.net. This isn't some advertising ploy so feel free to make some DNS entry which points there, like svn.kernel.org, and then there is no BK in the picture. HPA can help you with that. In fact, hpa, weren't we going to make a cvs.kernel.org? If so, how about pointing that at kernel.bkbits.net for the time being and then if someone steps forward to host that you can just change the DNS entry?
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Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Larry McVoy <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
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HPA can help you with that. In fact, hpa, weren't we going to make a cvs.kernel.org? If so, how about pointing that at kernel.bkbits.net for the time being and then if someone steps forward to host that you can just change the DNS entry?
Seems reasonable. I have been up over my ears for a while, and quite frankly I'm trying to spend some of my Linux time working on my real Linux projects, too...
-hpa
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SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
I'm happy to buy, register, and manage a neutral domain if someone can think of one. Obviously, one of the BK based domains is not going to cut it because people will think we're using it to advertise how BK is going to rule the world, etc. etc. The only really neutral domain I have is reggaeware.com and I'm not sure the world is ready to fill their CVS needs from cvs.reggaeware.com, eh?
If someone can think of a cool name so we could have
bk.coolname.com
cvs.coolname.com
svn.coolname.com
etc
and it isn't taken, send me a suggestion and I'll get it set up and point it at the right places.
It seems to me that kernel.org is the right place but if hpa is too busy (which I understand and respect) then we need to come up with some sort of domain which is unused, simple, and memorable. I'm aware of the levels of distrust people have for bitmover but we could pay for it and run the DNS servers and let some set of community agreed on people manage the DNS entries if that makes people feel safe.
Quoted 24 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Larry McVoy <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernelQuoted 6 lines
HPA can help you with that. In fact, hpa, weren't we going to make a cvs.kernel.org? If so, how about pointing that at kernel.bkbits.net for the time being and then if someone steps forward to host that you can just change the DNS entry?
Seems reasonable. I have been up over my ears for a while, and quite frankly I'm trying to spend some of my Linux time working on my real Linux projects, too...
-hpa
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Quoted 8 lines · Larry McVoy
It seems to me that kernel.org is the right place but if hpa is too busy (which I understand and respect) then we need to come up with some sort of domain which is unused, simple, and memorable. I'm aware of the levels of distrust people have for bitmover but we could pay for it and run the DNS servers and let some set of community agreed on people manage the DNS entries if that makes people feel safe.
I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
-hpa
Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Quoted 10 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 8 lines · Larry McVoy
It seems to me that kernel.org is the right place but if hpa is too busy (which I understand and respect) then we need to come up with some sort of domain which is unused, simple, and memorable. I'm aware of the levels of distrust people have for bitmover but we could pay for it and run the DNS servers and let some set of community agreed on people manage the DNS entries if that makes people feel safe.
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Ben Collins <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
So right now cvs, svn and bk all -> kernel.bkbits.net?
-hpa
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Quoted 11 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Ben Collins <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernelQuoted 6 lines
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
So right now cvs, svn and bk all -> kernel.bkbits.net?
We only need cvs and svn; bk is hosted at linux.bkbits.net.
If someone else wants to either host or provide a hot backup for either of these, that's cool with us.
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Quoted 8 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 7 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Ben Collins <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernelQuoted 4 lines
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
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CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
So right now cvs, svn and bk all -> kernel.bkbits.net?
We only need cvs and svn; bk is hosted at linux.bkbits.net.
Why would you *not* have bk.kernel.org as a CNAME? For ease of memory, etc, it makes sense to do that. If someone knows about cvs.kernel.org, they are more likely to guess the bk address. And vice-versa, of course.
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
In reply to Larry McVoyQuoted 8 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 7 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Ben Collins <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernelQuoted 4 lines
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
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CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
So right now cvs, svn and bk all -> kernel.bkbits.net?
We only need cvs and svn; bk is hosted at linux.bkbits.net.
It still makes sense to have a CNAME for bk.kernel.org to match the others. Much easier to remember and guess; if you know one you can intuit the others.
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Bill Davidsen <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
Quoted 14 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 12 lines · H. Peter Anvin
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Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Ben Collins <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernelQuoted 6 lines
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
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So right now cvs, svn and bk all -> kernel.bkbits.net?
We only need cvs and svn; bk is hosted at linux.bkbits.net.
It still makes sense to have a CNAME for bk.kernel.org to match the others. Much easier to remember and guess; if you know one you can intuit the others.
I just added bk.kernel.org -> linux.bkbits.net.
-hpa
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
In reply to H. Peter AnvinQuoted 11 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[email protected]> By author: Ben Collins <[email protected]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernelQuoted 6 lines
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
CNAMES on kernel.org would be perfect.
So right now cvs, svn and bk all -> kernel.bkbits.net?
And for those that want to switch their SVN repo to the new URL:
# cd linux-2.5-bksvn # svn switch --relocate svn://kernel.bkbits.net/linux-2.5/trunk \ svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.5/trunk
For 2.4, it should be obvious.
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
In reply to H. Peter AnvinQuoted 10 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 8 lines · Larry McVoy
It seems to me that kernel.org is the right place but if hpa is too busy (which I understand and respect) then we need to come up with some sort of domain which is unused, simple, and memorable. I'm aware of the levels of distrust people have for bitmover but we could pay for it and run the DNS servers and let some set of community agreed on people manage the DNS entries if that makes people feel safe.
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
I think CNAMEs are all that we need now. BitMover and Penguin Computing will host it for the time being and if we cross over to the dark side someone else can step forward and host it and all you need to do is redo the CNAMEs.
We do need to advertise the "URLs" for the CVS tree and the SVN tree and the BK trees as well I suppose. Is that a Gooch/FAQ thing? Richard, you still out there?
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Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
Hi,
Quoted 14 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 10 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 8 lines · Larry McVoy
It seems to me that kernel.org is the right place but if hpa is too busy (which I understand and respect) then we need to come up with some sort of domain which is unused, simple, and memorable. I'm aware of the levels of distrust people have for bitmover but we could pay for it and run the DNS servers and let some set of community agreed on people manage the DNS entries if that makes people feel safe.
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I have no problem setting up CNAMEs in kernel.org if people are OK with it. Setting up actual servers is another matter.
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I think CNAMEs are all that we need now. BitMover and Penguin Computing will host it for the time being and if we cross over to the dark side someone else can step forward and host it and all you need to do is redo the CNAMEs.
We do need to advertise the "URLs" for the CVS tree and the SVN tree and the BK trees as well I suppose. Is that a Gooch/FAQ thing? Richard, you still out there?
this sounds fine to me. especially I can't think of an easier name to remeber than cvs.kernel.org/svn.kernel.org ;)
thanks for taking care of those bits too.
Andrea
Re: SCM domains [was Re: Linux 2.5.71]
In reply to Larry McVoyQuoted 7 lines · Larry McVoy
I'm happy to buy, register, and manage a neutral domain if someone can think of one. Obviously, one of the BK based domains is not going to cut it because people will think we're using it to advertise how BK is going to rule the world, etc. etc. The only really neutral domain I have is reggaeware.com and I'm not sure the world is ready to fill their CVS needs from cvs.reggaeware.com, eh?
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If someone can think of a cool name so we could have
bk.coolname.com
cvs.coolname.com
svn.coolname.com
According to InterNIC, hereisthesource.org is free... :-)
Regards
Henning
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