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linux-lvm Stuart Fox 4 participants 5 messages Jun 25, 2003

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Hi all,

I cant find information about the maximum volume group size in the current 2.4 series kernel.

Id like to be able to join 2 1.75Tb raid arrays into 1 3.5Tb array. Is this possible?

Cheers in advance

Stuart

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Quoted 5 lines · Stuart Fox

I cant find information about the maximum volume group size in the current 2.4 series kernel.

Id like to be able to join 2 1.75Tb raid arrays into 1 3.5Tb array. Is this possible?

No, there is a limit of 2TB for all block devices in 2.4 kernels. With 2.5, there is a "large block device" configure option that lets you have larger block devices. There is apparently also a patch to support this on 2.4 kernels, but AFAIK it is not very widely used/tested.

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Quoted 5 lines · Stuart Fox

I cant find information about the maximum volume group size in the current 2.4 series kernel.

Id like to be able to join 2 1.75Tb raid arrays into 1 3.5Tb array. Is this possible?

No, there is a limit of 2TB for all block devices in 2.4 kernels. With 2.5, there is a "large block device" configure option that lets you have larger block devices. There is apparently also a patch to support this on 2.4 kernels, but AFAIK it is not very widely used/tested.

The question was regarding volum goups, not logical volums.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the answer is yes, you will be able to join 2 1.75 Tb volume groups into a single 3.5 Tb volum group, if only an apropriate extent-size was set on VG-creation.

However, each Logical Volum in the Volum-Group need to be smaller than 2 TB.

AFAIK the "large block device" feature in 2.5 does not enable > 2TB logical volumes - it only fixes the general block-device layer, md and the scsi-subsystem. At least that used to be the case - maybe someone knows if it has changed?

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Ragnar Kjørstad
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Quoted 29 lines · Andreas Dilger
Quoted 5 lines · Stuart Fox
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I cant find information about the maximum volume group size in the

current

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2.4 series kernel.

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Id like to be able to join 2 1.75Tb raid arrays into 1 3.5Tb array. Is this possible?

No, there is a limit of 2TB for all block devices in 2.4 kernels. With 2.5, there is a "large block device" configure option that lets you have larger block devices. There is apparently also a patch to support this on 2.4 kernels, but AFAIK it is not very widely used/tested.

The question was regarding volum goups, not logical volums.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the answer is yes, you will be able to join 2 1.75 Tb volume groups into a single 3.5 Tb volum group, if only an apropriate extent-size was set on VG-creation.

However, each Logical Volum in the Volum-Group need to be smaller than 2 TB.

AFAIK the "large block device" feature in 2.5 does not enable > 2TB logical volumes - it only fixes the general block-device layer, md and the scsi-subsystem. At least that used to be the case - maybe someone knows if it has changed?

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Thanks for the quick replies.
It actually applied to both one vg with one lv of 3.5Tb. Guess I'll have to find another way.

Cheers

Stuart

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Quoted 11 lines · Andreas Dilger
Quoted 5 lines · Stuart Fox

I cant find information about the maximum volume group size in the current 2.4 series kernel.

Id like to be able to join 2 1.75Tb raid arrays into 1 3.5Tb array. Is this possible?

No, there is a limit of 2TB for all block devices in 2.4 kernels. With 2.5, there is a "large block device" configure option that lets you have larger block devices. There is apparently also a patch to support this on 2.4 kernels, but AFAIK it is not very widely used/tested.

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The question was regarding volum goups, not logical volums.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the answer is yes, you will be able to join 2 1.75 Tb volume groups into a single 3.5 Tb volum group, if only an apropriate extent-size was set on VG-creation.

The limitation for the size of a volume-group is a little obscure. The volume-group metadata (for LVM1 volume-groups - LVM2 format is probably different) stores the total number of PEs in the group as a 32-bit number. Thus, you are limited to 2^32 total extents. With a PE size of 4 MB, this is 2^54 bytes, or 16 exabytes (adjust accordingly for a different PE size).

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However, each Logical Volum in the Volum-Group need to be smaller than 2 TB.

AFAIK the "large block device" feature in 2.5 does not enable > 2TB logical volumes - it only fixes the general block-device layer, md and the scsi-subsystem. At least that used to be the case - maybe someone knows if it has changed?

Again, the LVM1 format uses a 32-bit number to record the size (in sectors) of each LV. So the 2 TB limitation still exists. However, the metadata also records the number of extents allocated to the LV, so the tools *could* be written to ignore the lv-size field and always calculate based on the number of allocated extents. This would push the limit up to pe_size * 2^32 bytes, but would of course break backwards-compatibility with older tools (not sure if that really matters).

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