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You wrote on linux.kernel:

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Hopefully someone else will follow up, but I hope I'm somewhat convincing:

Not really ;)

Your points can be simplified to "I don't use cryptoloop, but someone else might" and "we shouldn't do this in a stable kernel".

Well, I want to hear from "someone else". If removing cryptoloop will irritate five people, well, sorry. If it's 5,000 people, well maybe not.

I use cryptoloop and I would be really annoyed if it disappeared in the stable kernel series. Besides, I read in another mail in this thread that dm-crypt will not work with file-based storage (I'm using cryptoloop on a file), and that it is new and potentially buggy.

I'm really surprised that people here argue that dm-crypt doesn't get enough testing so cryptoloop has to go to force people to test dm-crypt with their valuable data. This is all upside-down. First dm-crypt has to be stable, safe and feature-complete, then people can convert their data to dm-crypt and only then can cryptoloop be deleted.

Walter

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Quoted 11 lines · Walter Hofmann

You wrote on linux.kernel:

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Your points can be simplified to "I don't use cryptoloop, but someone else might" and "we shouldn't do this in a stable kernel".

Well, I want to hear from "someone else". If removing cryptoloop will irritate five people, well, sorry. If it's 5,000 people, well maybe not.

I use cryptoloop and I would be really annoyed if it disappeared in the stable kernel series. Besides, I read in another mail in this thread that dm-crypt will not work with file-based storage (I'm using cryptoloop on a file), and that it is new and potentially buggy.

Just to clarify this one point...
Device-Mapper (and thus dm-crypt) can only create mappings on block-devices. However, in your situation, you could just take a two-step approach of creating a loop device on the encrypted file (using losetup), and then using dm-crypt on top of this loop device.

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Am Fr, den 23.07.2004 um 9:01 Uhr -0500 schrieb Kevin Corry:

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I use cryptoloop and I would be really annoyed if it disappeared in the stable kernel series. Besides, I read in another mail in this thread that dm-crypt will not work with file-based storage (I'm using cryptoloop on a file), and that it is new and potentially buggy.

Just to clarify this one point...
Device-Mapper (and thus dm-crypt) can only create mappings on block-devices. However, in your situation, you could just take a two-step approach of creating a loop device on the encrypted file (using losetup), and then using dm-crypt on top of this loop device.

Yes, just look at the Wiki page on http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ , people have contributed a lot of scripts.

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Quoted 11 lines · Walter Hofmann

You wrote on linux.kernel:

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Hopefully someone else will follow up, but I hope I'm somewhat convincing:

Not really ;)

Your points can be simplified to "I don't use cryptoloop, but someone else might" and "we shouldn't do this in a stable kernel".

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Well, I want to hear from "someone else". If removing cryptoloop will irritate five people, well, sorry. If it's 5,000 people, well maybe not.

I use cryptoloop and I would be really annoyed if it disappeared in
the stable kernel series. Besides, I read in another mail in this thread that dm-crypt will not work with file-based storage (I'm using cryptoloop on a file), and that it is new and potentially buggy.

I'm really surprised that people here argue that dm-crypt doesn't get enough testing so cryptoloop has to go to force people to test dm-crypt with their valuable data. This is all upside-down. First dm-crypt has to be stable, safe and feature-complete, then people can convert their data to dm-crypt and only then can cryptoloop be deleted.

Not to mention working with mount... That would be good if we didn't have to train people, change scripts, etc.

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