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Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box. I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure and AX0 port.
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP

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It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the latest kernel from kernel.org. You have 3 choices.

1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org)
3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16 from kernel.org sources.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 29 lines

Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box. I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure and AX0 port.
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP
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There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Mike, W1NR

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy, W1NR
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:52 AM
To: Jeremiah; [email protected]
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the latest kernel from kernel.org. You have 3 choices.

1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org) 3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16 from kernel.org sources.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 21 lines

Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box. I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure and
AX0 port.
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Quoted 9 lines

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP
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Quoted 4 lines · On 4/18/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <[email protected]> wrote:

There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Will this be an "easy" kernel upgrade or will it break a system if one just installs the rpm and that is it? Or will YaST "magically" make the initrd file and put the new kernel where it should be and make an entry in Grub?

I am still very green to kernel upgrading (normally I will wait for the next distro' version) and so don't have all the steps burned into my cortex like most of the folks on this list, so please pardon the ignorance...

Thanks for the link :)

Doug
N7BFS

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My mistake. There are no YaST control files present in that directory. You need to download the RPM's and install manually. If you are using Grub, everything should get taken care of. However, there will be no automatic updating via YOU. Other things like wireless and third party video might have problems with this approach also.

The problem is a broken mkiss kernel module. I tried to update this from source a while back and got nowhere. There are too many other dependencies. A lot of work was done on the AX.25 kernel modules recently and will be present when SuSE 10.1 gets released (with 2.6.16 kernel). Currently RC1 is available and the official release of 10.1 is scheduled for April 25. That would be the best solution and one I am waiting for.

My cluster server is still running 9.3 because of the mkiss issue. I will be putting 10.1 RC1 on a test machine this weekend to try things out. Beta 9 looked good as far as AX.25 was concerned. About a month after the 10.1 release, I might upgrade my main server.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 4 lines · On 4/18/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <[email protected]> wrote:

There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Will this be an "easy" kernel upgrade or will it break a system if one just installs the rpm and that is it? Or will YaST "magically" make the initrd file and put the new kernel where it should be and make an entry in Grub?

I am still very green to kernel upgrading (normally I will wait for the next distro' version) and so don't have all the steps burned into my cortex like most of the folks on this list, so please pardon the ignorance...

Thanks for the link :)

Doug
N7BFS

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well, I guess I could always give 2.6.16 a try on a vmware type install and see what happens. Or maybe this is a good reason for me to try to get Xen work. ^_^

Jeremiah
KD7DMP

Quoted 47 lines · On Wednesday 19 April 2006 05:18, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:

My mistake. There are no YaST control files present in that directory. You need to download the RPM's and install manually. If you are using Grub, everything should get taken care of. However, there will be no automatic updating via YOU. Other things like wireless and third party video might have problems with this approach also.

The problem is a broken mkiss kernel module. I tried to update this from source a while back and got nowhere. There are too many other dependencies. A lot of work was done on the AX.25 kernel modules recently and will be present when SuSE 10.1 gets released (with 2.6.16 kernel). Currently RC1 is available and the official release of 10.1 is scheduled for April 25. That would be the best solution and one I am waiting for.

My cluster server is still running 9.3 because of the mkiss issue. I will be putting 10.1 RC1 on a test machine this weekend to try things out. Beta 9 looked good as far as AX.25 was concerned. About a month after the 10.1 release, I might upgrade my main server.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 4 lines · On 4/18/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <[email protected]> wrote:

There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEA D/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Will this be an "easy" kernel upgrade or will it break a system if one just installs the rpm and that is it? Or will YaST "magically" make the initrd file and put the new kernel where it should be and make an entry in Grub?

I am still very green to kernel upgrading (normally I will wait for the next distro' version) and so don't have all the steps burned into my cortex like most of the folks on this list, so please pardon the ignorance...

Thanks for the link :)

Doug
N7BFS

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In reply to Mike McCarthy, W1NR

I didn't know about that one, cool. Now is that bleeding edge kernels, or do they have stable builds on there too??

Do you know what kernel ax25 is working on??

thanks
Jeremiah
KD7DMP

Quoted 64 lines · On Tuesday 18 April 2006 16:33, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:

There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Mike, W1NR

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy, W1NR
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:52 AM
To: Jeremiah; [email protected]
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the latest kernel from kernel.org. You have 3 choices.

1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org) 3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16 from kernel.org sources.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 21 lines

Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box. I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure and
AX0 port.
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Quoted 8 lines

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP
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Kernel versions that I know about:

2.6.14 is broken.
2.6.15.2 Was patched.
2.6.16.x is good (from RC1).

Note these are the official release numbers from kernel.org. They are not the same sub version numbers that SuSE uses. Assuming SuSE picked up the standard 2.6.16 sources, the 10.1 release should be just fine.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

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I didn't know about that one, cool. Now is that bleeding edge kernels, or do they have stable builds on there too??

Do you know what kernel ax25 is working on??

thanks
Jeremiah
KD7DMP

Quoted 60 lines · On Tuesday 18 April 2006 16:33, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:

There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Mike, W1NR

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy, W1NR
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:52 AM
To: Jeremiah; [email protected]
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the latest kernel from kernel.org. You have 3 choices.

1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org) 3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16 from kernel.org sources.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 21 lines

Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box. I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure and
AX0 port.
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Quoted 8 lines

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP
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Quoted 11 lines · On 4/19/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <[email protected]> wrote:

Kernel versions that I know about:

2.6.14 is broken.
2.6.15.2 Was patched.
2.6.16.x is good (from RC1).

Note these are the official release numbers from kernel.org. They are not the same sub version numbers that SuSE uses. Assuming SuSE picked up the standard 2.6.16 sources, the 10.1 release should be just fine.

Mike, W1NR

After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?

tnx for any input/help

Doug
N7BFS

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Yes.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?

tnx for any input/help

Doug
N7BFS

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There is another gotcha...

SuSE 10.1 RC1 does not include libax25 any longer. However, the kernel is still built with the mkiss and ax25 modules so no kernel recompile is needed. This causes the current 10.0 packages to fail dependencies when you try and install them through YaST.

There is hope. I am attempting to build a libax25 rpm file. I am also looking at creating an "add-on" for all of the packages using the new 10.1 features of YaST.

More later.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
To: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

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Yes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?

tnx for any input/help

Doug
N7BFS

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Hello all:

Well I'm a happy guy today, I got 2.6.16 installed from the RPM on my Suse 10.0 box, and so far it seems to run happy. I had to do the install a few times, but after doing a "rpm -iv --nodeps ..." to keep it from complaning that it didn't have the right version of perl-bootloader it seems to work.

So I can have my packet base station back, YEAH!!!!

I'll keep every one up to date on this if I find any problems with running this non-distro stander kernel.

Thanks all for that help ^_^

Jeremiah
KD7DMP

Quoted 46 lines · On Thursday 20 April 2006 12:15, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:

There is another gotcha...

SuSE 10.1 RC1 does not include libax25 any longer. However, the kernel is still built with the mkiss and ax25 modules so no kernel recompile is needed. This causes the current 10.0 packages to fail dependencies when you try and install them through YaST.

There is hope. I am attempting to build a libax25 rpm file. I am also looking at creating an "add-on" for all of the packages using the new 10.1 features of YaST.

More later.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
To: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

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Yes.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Cole" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?

tnx for any input/help

Doug
N7BFS

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Quoted 24 lines · you

Did you check to see if MKISS is loaded, assuming you made it a module?
lsmod should list the loaded modules.

Tom WB8ZRL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:21 AM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

Quoted 12 lines

Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box. I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

Quoted 19 lines
Quoted 1 line

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure

and

Quoted 15 lines

AX0 port.
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP
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Yep, I made sure that Mkiss and ax25 are getting loaded, and they are. I should have knowen better then to leave that out of my posting, lol

Jeremiah
KD7DMP