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3Ware delayed device mounting errors with newer 9500 series adapters

DISCUSSION Jeffrey V. Merkey 3 participants 4 messages Oct 21, 2006 – Oct 22, 2006 SCSI

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Adam,

We have been getting 3Ware 9500 series adapters in the past 60 days which exhibit a delayed behavior during mounting of FS from
/etc/fstab. The adapters older than this do not exhibit this behavior.

During bootup, if the driver is compiled as a module rather than in kernel, mount points such as /var in fstab fail to detect the devices until the system fully boots, at which point the /dev/sdb etc. devices showup. It happens on both ATA cabled drives and drives cabled with multi-lane controller backplanes.

The problem is easy to reproduce. Install ES4, point the /var directory during install to one of the array devices in disk druid, and after the install completes, /var/ will not mount during bootup and all sorts of errors stream off the screen. I can reproduce the problem with several systems in our labs and upon investigating the adapter revisions, I find that adapters ordered in the past 60 days exhibit
the problem. Compiling the driver in kernel gets around the problem, indicating its timing related.

Jeff

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Quoted 13 lines · On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:03:10 -0600 "Jeffrey V. Merkey"…

Adam,

We have been getting 3Ware 9500 series adapters in the past 60 days which exhibit a delayed behavior during mounting of FS from
/etc/fstab. The adapters older than this do not exhibit this behavior.

During bootup, if the driver is compiled as a module rather than in kernel, mount points such as /var in fstab fail to detect the devices until the system fully boots, at which point the /dev/sdb etc. devices showup. It happens on both ATA cabled drives and drives cabled with multi-lane controller backplanes.

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The problem is easy to reproduce. Install ES4, point the /var directory during install to one of the array devices in disk druid, and after the install completes, /var/ will not mount during bootup and all sorts of errors stream off the screen. I can reproduce the problem with several systems in our labs and upon investigating the adapter revisions, I find that adapters ordered in the past 60 days exhibit
the problem. Compiling the driver in kernel gets around the problem,
indicating its timing related.

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Jeff,

Can you reproduce with 2.6.18.1? ES4 contains a custom 3ware driver.

Also, you have included no error output with this email whatsoever. Can you go to a virtual console during your ES4 install, run 'dmesg', and see if the errors are in there, or if they are a part of the ES4 anaconda installer?

/dev/sdb, etc. having delayed appearances sounds like it is udev related.

Are you running the latest firmware? Do your controllers older than 60 days have different firmware?

I will try to reproduce this.

-Adam

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Quoted 13 lines · On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:03:10 -0600 "Jeffrey V. Merkey"…

Adam,

We have been getting 3Ware 9500 series adapters in the past 60 days which exhibit a delayed behavior during mounting of FS from
/etc/fstab. The adapters older than this do not exhibit this behavior.

During bootup, if the driver is compiled as a module rather than in kernel, mount points such as /var in fstab fail to detect the devices until the system fully boots, at which point the /dev/sdb etc. devices showup. It happens on both ATA cabled drives and drives cabled with multi-lane controller backplanes.

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The problem is easy to reproduce. Install ES4, point the /var directory during install to one of the array devices in disk druid, and after the install completes, /var/ will not mount during bootup and all sorts of errors stream off the screen. I can reproduce the problem with several systems in our labs and upon investigating the adapter revisions, I find that adapters ordered in the past 60 days exhibit
the problem. Compiling the driver in kernel gets around the problem,
indicating its timing related.

cc's added.
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Quoted 3 lines · adam radford

Jeff,

Can you reproduce with 2.6.18.1? ES4 contains a custom 3ware driver.

We don't use kernels later than 2.6.15 in our shipping releases since they have some issues with stability.

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Also, you have included no error output with this email whatsoever. Can you go to a virtual console during your ES4 install, run 'dmesg', and see if the errors are in there, or if they are a part of the ES4 anaconda installer?

dmesg produces no output since the errors are reflected from init.

Errors are typical of an unmounted volume. i.e.

"cannot touch /var/lock/subsys/<service> (dozens of these) Starting System logger (hangs for 15 minutes)

So no logs .....

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/dev/sdb, etc. having delayed appearances sounds like it is udev related.

No, I do not believe so.

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Are you running the latest firmware? Do your controllers older than 60 days have different firmware?

This is the right question. I will collect the various versions this occurs on and post them here.

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I will try to reproduce this.

Pretty easy to do.

Jeff

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-Adam

Quoted 35 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 6 lines · On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:03:10 -0600 "Jeffrey V. Merkey"…

Adam,

We have been getting 3Ware 9500 series adapters in the past 60 days which exhibit a delayed behavior during mounting of FS from
/etc/fstab. The adapters older than this do not exhibit this

behavior.

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During bootup, if the driver is compiled as a module rather than in kernel, mount points such as /var in fstab fail to detect the devices until the system fully boots, at which point the /dev/sdb etc. devices showup. It happens on both ATA cabled drives and drives cabled with multi-lane controller backplanes.

The problem is easy to reproduce. Install ES4, point the /var

directory

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during install to one of the array devices in disk druid, and after the install completes, /var/ will not mount during bootup and all

sorts

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of errors stream off the screen. I can reproduce the problem with several systems in our labs and upon investigating the adapter revisions, I find that adapters ordered in the past 60 days exhibit
the problem. Compiling the driver in kernel gets around the problem,
indicating its timing related.

cc's added.
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