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Ottawa Linux Power Management Summit

DISCUSSION Len Brown 6 participants 9 messages May 12, 2007 – May 24, 2007

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I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

thanks,
-Len

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Hi!

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I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

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1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

I'd like to be there, but I am not going to OLS this year. Could we perhaps do PM summit near kernel summit -- that's september in england.
Pavel

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Hi!

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I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

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Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

I'd like to be there, but I am not going to OLS this year. Could we perhaps do PM summit near kernel summit -- that's september in england.

The meeting in Ottawa is on.

We can also meet in Cambridge in September.

In both cases there will be folks who are unable to attend, and so the discussion will be colored by those who can.

thanks,
-Len

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Hi!

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I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

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I'd like to be there, but I am not going to OLS this year. Could we perhaps do PM summit near kernel summit -- that's september in england.

The meeting in Ottawa is on.

We can also meet in Cambridge in September.

Yes, that would be nice :-).

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In both cases there will be folks who are unable to attend, and so the discussion will be colored by those who can.

Send greetings to everyone in Ottawa...
Pavel

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Quoted 11 lines · Pavel Machek

Hi!

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I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

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1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

Here are a few things that have been tossed around for a while on linux-pm and CELF that should be discussed:

1. Unified interface to dynamic/runtime PM for laptop/server and embedded platforms - Does it make sense?
2. Enhancements to Linux driver model to handle dynamic PM
3. Where should policy be located? Drivers or userspace or a mix of both?
4. Interfaces to userspace policy manager
5. Can x86 device drivers and bus drivers do more runtime PM? Similar to some of the USB work being carried on by Alan/David.
6. What can be done to ensure Suspend To RAM _always_ works? Video drivers are the big problem now, anything else?
7. Using wakeup latency as a parameter to decide how deep we want to sleep

As someone pointed out, it would be nice to see the results of this at the PM BOF or even covered by LWN.

Regards,
Amit

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Amit Kucheria, Embedded developer

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Quoted 9 lines · Len Brown

I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

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1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

For those of us who will be at Ottawa, but might not make it early, it would be great if somebody could present a summary of the discussions during the PM BOF at OLS.

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For those of us who will be at Ottawa, but might not make it early, it would be great if somebody could present a summary of the discussions during the PM BOF at OLS.

Yep, Mark Gross and I have signed up to host a PM BOF at OLS.

thanks,
-Len

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Hi Len,

Matt and I would like to attend the PM summit. Our primary interest is unified cross platforms pm API to control pm hardware (covering both x86 and embedded), constraints (including latencies) engine, pm subsystem/drivers interface, API for use case driven pm.

Thanks,
Eugeny

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I'd like to conduct a Linux Power Management Summit during the two days preceeding the Ottawa Linux Symposium:

Monday June 25
Tuesday June 26

Hopefully the session can benefit from some of the lessons learned by the Storage Summit folks -- according to James they include:

1. round-table format -- discussion oriented, limited presentations.
2. limit to ~20 attendees to support discussion format
3. prepare agenda and topic list by consensus via e-mail ahead of time.

Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

thanks,
-Len
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Please let me know what you think should be on the agenda, and if you are motivated to show up for the discussion.

Below is our proposed topics to the agenda. We could also give a short presentation about latest developments in Nokia N800 power management area.

BTW, we in this context mean people involved in Nokia Internet Tablet power management development (Igor, Klaus and myself).

- Presentation of DVFS in Nokia N800 including
- integration with clock framework and needed enhancements
- role of the voltage and other frameworks

- Future power management challenges in Nokia Internet Tablets
- next omap and new requirements
- power aware applications and policies
- pm interface between kernel and pm aware applications

- Current budgeting in embedded USB host
- how to balance the current flow from battery to usb peripheral

- How to use the clk fw to express constraints
- between clocks
- between clocks and voltages

- How to address power domains with timeouts
- simple bitfields management example

Regards,
Sakari Poussa