2.6.23-rc3-git3 make warnings
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached testing-only .config.
Regards,
Jarek P.
sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 of acpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type drivers/pci/search.c: In function pci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pci.h:480) drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning: pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning: pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning: pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning: pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration of arch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration of arch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included from drivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'
Root device is (8, 1)
Setup is 11036 bytes (padded to 11264 bytes).
System is 2428 kB
PATCH 1/1 ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
Fix this warning:
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 of `acpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type
(I don't know whether this fix hits the real problem.)
--- drivers/acpi/ec.c | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
drivers/acpi/ec.c +2 -2
@@ -869,8 +869,8 @@ int __init acpi_ec_ecdt_probe(void) boot_ec->handle =ACPI_ROOT_OBJECT ; }else { printk(KERN_DEBUG PREFIX "Look up EC in DSDT\n"); - status =acpi_get_devices (ec_device_ids[0 ].id, ec_parse_device, - boot_ec,NULL ); + status =acpi_get_devices ((char *)ec_device_ids[0 ].id, + ec_parse_device, boot_ec,NULL );if (ACPI_FAILURE (status)) goto error; }
Re: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
Quoted 7 lines · WANG Cong
Fix this warning:
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 of `acpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type(I don't know whether this fix hits the real problem.)
It is safe to give acpi_get_devices() const string, as it should not modify it in any condition.
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Signed-off-by WANG Cong <[email protected]>
ACK
Thanks,
Alex
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--- drivers/acpi/ec.c | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)Index:
linux-2.6.23-rc3-git3/drivers/acpi/ec.c
===================================================================drivers/acpi/ec.c +2
-2@@ -869,8 +869,8 @@ int __init acpi_ec_ecdt_probe(void) boot_ec->handle =ACPI_ROOT_OBJECT ; }else { printk(KERN_DEBUG PREFIX "Look up EC in DSDT\n"); - status =acpi_get_devices (ec_device_ids[0 ].id, ec_parse_device, - boot_ec,NULL ); + status =acpi_get_devices ((char *)ec_device_ids[0 ].id, + ec_parse_device, boot_ec,NULL );if (ACPI_FAILURE (status)) goto error; }
Re: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
Quoted 10 lines · Alexey Starikovskiy
Quoted 7 lines · WANG Cong
Fix this warning:
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 of `acpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type(I don't know whether this fix hits the real problem.)
It is safe to give
acpi_get_devices()const string, as it should not modify it in any condition.
---
drivers/acpi/namespace/nsxfeval.c +1 -1
@@ -540,7 +540,7 @@ acpi_ns_get_device_callback(acpi_handle obj_handle,******************************************************************************/ acpi_status -acpi_get_devices (char *HID , +acpi_get_devices (const char *HID ,acpi_walk_callback user_function,void *context,void **return_value) {
include/acpi/acpixf.h +1 -1
@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ acpi_walk_namespace(acpi_object_type type, void *context, void **return_value);acpi_status -acpi_get_devices (char *HID , +acpi_get_devices (const char *HID ,acpi_walk_callback user_function,void *context,void **return_value);
include/acpi/acstruct.h +1 -1
@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ struct acpi_init_walk_info {struct acpi_get_devices_info {acpi_walk_callback user_function;void *context; -char *hid; +const char *hid; };union acpi_aml_operands {
Re: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
Quoted 9 lines · Al Viro
Quoted 7 lines · Alexey Starikovskiy
Quoted 5 lines · WANG Cong
Fix this warning:
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 of `acpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type
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(I don't know whether this fix hits the real problem.)
It is safe to give
acpi_get_devices()const string, as it should not modify it in any condition.
Yes, that is the proper solution with a single drawback:
it touches ACPICA dual-licensed code and would take ages to commit, and Len would probably ask you to give permission to re-license it under BSD.
Regards,
Alex.
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Signed-off-by Al Viro <[email protected]>---
drivers/acpi/namespace/nsxfeval.c +1
-1@@ -540,7 +540,7 @@ acpi_ns_get_device_callback(acpi_handle obj_handle,******************************************************************************/ acpi_status -acpi_get_devices (char *HID , +acpi_get_devices (const char *HID ,acpi_walk_callback user_function,void *context,void **return_value) {include/acpi/acpixf.h +1
-1@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ acpi_walk_namespace(acpi_object_type type, void *context, void **return_value);acpi_status -acpi_get_devices (char *HID , +acpi_get_devices (const char *HID ,acpi_walk_callback user_function,void *context,void **return_value);include/acpi/acstruct.h +1
-1@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ struct acpi_init_walk_info {struct acpi_get_devices_info {acpi_walk_callback user_function;void *context; -char *hid; +const char *hid; };union acpi_aml_operands {
Re: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
Quoted 4 lines · Alexey Starikovskiy
Yes, that is the proper solution with a single drawback:
it touches ACPICA dual-licensed code and would take ages to commit, and Len would probably ask you to give permission to re-license it under BSD.
The latter is certainly not a problem (assuming that it's non-trivial enough to be copyrightable, in the first place).
RE: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
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Yes, that is the proper solution with a single drawback:
it touches ACPICA dual-licensed code and would take ages to commit, and Len would probably ask you to give permission tore-license it under
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BSD.
The latter is certainly not a problem (assuming that it's non-trivial enough to be copyrightable, in the first place).
The dual license is at the top of the file.
I just need to know when you touch one of these dual-license files that Intel has your permission to ship your change to folks we send the same file to under the BSD-style non-GPL license. eg. BSD, Solaris and HPUX uses this same ACPICA files -- though in a different format.
I've actually never had anybody say no when I asked. And I've had some people who play laywers on TV tell me this is not strictly necessary, but other people who play laywers on TV tell me it is best to ask, so I do.
thanks,
-Len
Re: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
Quoted 6 lines · Len
The dual license is at the top of the file.
I just need to know when you touch one of these dual-license files that Intel has your permission to ship your change to folks we send the same file to under the BSD-style non-GPL license. eg. BSD, Solaris and HPUX uses this same ACPICA files -- though in a different format.
You have it.
Re: [Git Patch] ACPI: Fix a warning of discarding qualifiers from pointer target type
In reply to Al ViroQuoted 46 lines · Al Viro
Quoted 10 lines · Alexey Starikovskiy
Quoted 7 lines · WANG Cong
Fix this warning:
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 of `acpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type(I don't know whether this fix hits the real problem.)
It is safe to give
acpi_get_devices()const string, as it should not modify it in any condition.Signed-off-by Al Viro <[email protected]>---
drivers/acpi/namespace/nsxfeval.c +1
-1@@ -540,7 +540,7 @@ acpi_ns_get_device_callback(acpi_handle obj_handle,******************************************************************************/ acpi_status -acpi_get_devices (char *HID , +acpi_get_devices (const char *HID ,acpi_walk_callback user_function,void *context,void **return_value) {include/acpi/acpixf.h +1
-1@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ acpi_walk_namespace(acpi_object_type type, void *context, void **return_value);acpi_status -acpi_get_devices (char *HID , +acpi_get_devices (const char *HID ,acpi_walk_callback user_function,void *context,void **return_value);include/acpi/acstruct.h +0
-0
include/acpi/acstruct.h struct acpi_init_walk_info { · line 152
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include/acpi/acstruct.h +1
-1@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ struct acpi_init_walk_info {struct acpi_get_devices_info {acpi_walk_callback user_function;void *context; -char *hid; +const char *hid; };union acpi_aml_operands {
So, it looks like this patch (or at least its -mm version) is working.
Now there is 'only' like this (there could be something new, because I've forgotten to mention this yesterday's log was the second make, after removing some small testing patch; here it's after make clean; .config is the same; gcc 3.2.3):
sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'kernel/power/pm.c:205: warning: pm_register' is deprecated (declared at kernel/power/pm.c:64) kernel/power/pm.c:205: warning: pm_register' is deprecated (declared at kernel/power/pm.c:64) kernel/power/pm.c:206: warning: pm_send_all' is deprecated (declared at kernel/power/pm.c:180) kernel/power/pm.c:206: warning: pm_send_all' is deprecated (declared at kernel/power/pm.c:180) drivers/pci/search.c: In function `pci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at include/linux/pci.h:480) drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning: pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning: pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning: pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning: pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration of arch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration of arch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included from drivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'include/asm/processor.h: In function `native_get_debugreg':include/asm/processor.h:524: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints include/asm/processor.h: In function `native_set_debugreg':include/asm/processor.h:551: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints
Root device is (8, 1)
Setup is 11036 bytes (padded to 11264 bytes).
System is 2428 kB
Cheers,
Jarek P.
PS: does somebody here remember these old good times:
real 56m19.454s user 53m38.580s sys 2m7.610s
Quoted 7 lines · Jarek Poplawski
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached testing-only .config.
Regards,
Jarek P.
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sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 ofacpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type drivers/pci/search.c: In functionpci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atinclude/linux/pci.h:480)drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:244)drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:96)drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included fromdrivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This warning is suspicious. In fact, 'pdev' is used when CONFIG_PM is defined. See the following:
<snip>
if (device_may_wakeup(&pdev->dev))
ohci->hc_control |= OHCI_CTRL_RWC;<snip>
Or a bug of gcc?
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Quoted 29 lines · WANG Cong
Quoted 7 lines · Jarek Poplawski
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached testing-only .config.
Regards,
Jarek P.Quoted 16 lines
sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 ofacpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type drivers/pci/search.c: In functionpci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atinclude/linux/pci.h:480)drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:244)drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:96)drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included fromdrivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This warning is suspicious. In fact, 'pdev' is used when
CONFIG_PMis defined. See the following:
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<snip>
if (device_may_wakeup(&pdev->dev)) ohci->hc_control |= OHCI_CTRL_RWC;<snip>
Or a bug of gcc?
gcc bug, I have a patch for this queued up.
thanks,
greg k-h
Quoted 30 lines · Greg KH
Quoted 29 lines · WANG Cong
Quoted 7 lines · Jarek Poplawski
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached testing-only .config.
Regards,
Jarek P.Quoted 16 lines
sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 ofacpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type drivers/pci/search.c: In functionpci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atinclude/linux/pci.h:480)drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:244)drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:96)drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included fromdrivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This warning is suspicious. In fact, 'pdev' is used when
CONFIG_PMis defined. See the following:
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<snip>
if (device_may_wakeup(&pdev->dev)) ohci->hc_control |= OHCI_CTRL_RWC;<snip>
Or a bug of gcc?
gcc bug, I have a patch for this queued up.
No, gcc is all right.
The problem is that with CONFIG_PM=y, CONFIG_PM_SLEEP=n device_may_wakeup() is an empty macro, and the pdev usage is in this case removed by the preprocessor and therefore invisible to the compiler.
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Quoted 7 lines · Jarek Poplawski
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached testing-only .config.
Regards,
Jarek P.Quoted 16 lines
sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 ofacpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type drivers/pci/search.c: In functionpci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atinclude/linux/pci.h:480)drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:244)drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:96)drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included fromdrivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This warning is suspicious. In fact, 'pdev' is used when
CONFIG_PMis defined. See the following:
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<snip>
if (device_may_wakeup(&pdev->dev)) ohci->hc_control |= OHCI_CTRL_RWC;<snip>
Or a bug of gcc?
gcc bug, I have a patch for this queued up.
No, gcc is all right.
The problem is that with CONFIG_PM=y, CONFIG_PM_SLEEP=n device_may_wakeup() is an empty macro, and the pdev usage is in this case removed by the preprocessor and therefore invisible to the compiler.
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Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached testing-only .config.
Regards,
Jarek P.sed: -e expression #1, char 154: Unknown option to 's'
drivers/acpi/ec.c: In function `acpi_ec_ecdt_probe':drivers/acpi/ec.c:873: warning: passing arg 1 ofacpi_get_devices' discards qualifiers from pointer target type drivers/pci/search.c: In functionpci_find_slot':drivers/pci/search.c:99: warning: `pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atinclude/linux/pci.h:480)drivers/pci/search.c: At top level:drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:244) drivers/pci/search.c:437: warning:pci_find_device' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:244)drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared at drivers/pci/search.c:96) drivers/pci/search.c:438: warning:pci_find_slot' is deprecated (declared atdrivers/pci/search.c:96)drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration of `arch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior
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drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration ofarch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior In file included fromdrivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c:859:drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c: In function `ohci_pci_start':drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev'
Root device is (8, 1)
Setup is 11036 bytes (padded to 11264 bytes).
System is 2428 kB
What gcc version? I don't get the arch_ warnings in drivers/pci/msi.c.
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RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Quoted 11 lines · Randy Dunlap
Quoted 7 lines · On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:20:38 +0200 Jarek Poplawski wrote:
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached
testing-only .config.
...drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior
...What gcc version? I don't get the
arch_warnings indrivers/pci/msi.c.
Obviously a gcc <= 3.4 [1], and therefore no unit-at-a-time.
You can reproduce it with a more recent gcc when adding -fno-unit-at-a-time to the CFLAGS.
And it's becoming a real maintainance problem that not only this problem but also other problems like some section mismatches [2] are only present without unit-at-a-time.
Currently we support 6 different stable gcc release series, and it might be the right time to consider dropping support for the older ones.
Are there any architectures still requiring a gcc < 4.0 ?
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[1] unit-at-a-time was added in gcc 3.4, but on gcc 3.4 we disable it on i386 due to stack usage problems
[2] example: static __init function with exactly one caller, and this caller is non-__init
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Quoted 18 lines · Adrian Bunk
Quoted 11 lines · Randy Dunlap
Quoted 7 lines · On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:20:38 +0200 Jarek Poplawski wrote:
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached
testing-only .config.
...drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior
...What gcc version? I don't get the
arch_warnings indrivers/pci/msi.c.Obviously a gcc <= 3.4 [1], and therefore no unit-at-a-time.
You can reproduce it with a more recent gcc when adding -fno-unit-at-a-time to the CFLAGS.
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And it's becoming a real maintainance problem that not only this problem but also other problems like some section mismatches [2] are only present without unit-at-a-time.
Currently we support 6 different stable gcc release series, and it might be the right time to consider dropping support for the older ones.
Are there any architectures still requiring a gcc < 4.0 ?
I want to keep support for gcc 3.4.3 for ARM for the forseeable future. From my point of view, gcc 4 compilers have been something of a development thing as far as the ARM architecture goes. Also, gcc 3.4.3 is faster and significantly less noisy than gcc 4.
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Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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I want to keep support for gcc 3.4.3 for ARM for the forseeable future. From my point of view, gcc 4 compilers have been something of a development thing as far as the ARM architecture goes. Also, gcc 3.4.3 is faster and significantly less noisy than gcc 4.
+1, similar reasons, for parisc. Not that gcc4 doesn't work, but there's some cases where gcc 3.4 still generates better code...
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Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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Quoted 7 lines · On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:20:38 +0200 Jarek Poplawski wrote:
Here are some more of, probably well-known, warnings with attached
testing-only .config.
...drivers/pci/msi.c:686: warning: weak declaration ofarch_msi_check_device' after first use results in unspecified behavior drivers/pci/msi.c:698: warning: weak declaration ofarch_setup_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behaviordrivers/pci/msi.c:718: warning: weak declaration of `arch_teardown_msi_irqs' after first use results in unspecified behavior
...What gcc version? I don't get the
arch_warnings indrivers/pci/msi.c.Obviously a gcc <= 3.4 [1], and therefore no unit-at-a-time.
You can reproduce it with a more recent gcc when adding -fno-unit-at-a-time to the CFLAGS.
And it's becoming a real maintainance problem that not only this problem but also other problems like some section mismatches [2] are only present without unit-at-a-time.
Currently we support 6 different stable gcc release series, and it might be the right time to consider dropping support for the older ones.
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Are there any architectures still requiring a gcc < 4.0 ?
I want to keep support for gcc 3.4.3 for ARM for the forseeable future.
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From my point of view, gcc 4 compilers have been something of a development
thing as far as the ARM architecture goes.
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It is an option to say "gcc >= 4.0 on i386 and >= 3.4 on all other architectures is required".
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Quoted 2 lines · Adrian Bunk
It is an option to say "gcc >= 4.0 on i386 and >= 3.4 on all other architectures is required".
if you're going to do something like that, you might as well take
the extra step and start keeping track of which versions of gcc work with which architectures, along the lines of what dan kegel did with the results matrix of crosstool:
http://www.kegel.com/crosstool/crosstool-0.43/buildlogs/
i'm being only moderately facetious, of course but, on the other
hand, if there's all this anecdotal information regarding which combinations work and which don't, maybe it's worth codifying that into a compilation check somewhere in the build process.
after all, at the moment in init/main.c, any gcc < 3.2 is rejected
outright, while gcc-4.1.0 generates a warning. that's incredibly ad hoc and certainly incomplete. might as well just write a script for the scripts/ directory which accepts an architecture and a version of gcc and tells you what the current situation is and what you can do about it.
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Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
In reply to Adrian BunkQuoted 1 line · Adrian Bunk
Are there any architectures still requiring a gcc < 4.0 ?
Yes, sadly in some places (embedded) there are people with older compiler who want newer kernels.
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Quoted 6 lines · Chris Wedgwood
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Are there any architectures still requiring a gcc < 4.0 ?
Yes, sadly in some places (embedded) there are people with older compiler who want newer kernels.
Last time I tried a mips build, it would fail the compile unless I was using _exactly_ 3.4.4 (I didn't tried older versions, but did try 3.4.6, for ex.). So I also think the 3.4 series will still have to be around for a while.
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Last time I tried a mips build, it would fail the compile unless I was using _exactly_ 3.4.4 (I didn't tried older versions, but did try 3.4.6, for ex.).
If 3.4.4 works where 3.4.6 doesn't, you should report this as a bug; either here, or to the GCC team (but please be aware that the 3.4 series isn't supported anymore), or to whoever built that compiler for you.
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So I also think the 3.4 series will still have to be around for a while.
Huh? 3.4 doesn't work for you, so that's why it should stay a supported compiler?
Segher
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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Last time I tried a mips build, it would fail the compile unless I was using _exactly_ 3.4.4 (I didn't tried older versions, but did try 3.4.6, for ex.).
If 3.4.4 works where 3.4.6 doesn't, you should report this as a bug; either here, or to the GCC team (but please be aware that the 3.4 series isn't supported anymore), or to whoever built that compiler for you.
I didn't bothered reporting it here because linux-mips website quotes explicitly the dependency on 3.4.4. So at least, I imagined they are aware of it. (And as you said, no point in reporting it to gcc...)
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So I also think the 3.4 series will still have to be around for a while.
Huh? 3.4 doesn't work for you, so that's why it should stay a supported compiler?
3.4.4 does. anyway, by this phrase, I only meant: "Dropping support for 3.4 series won't help in this case"
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Are there any architectures still requiring a gcc < 4.0 ?
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Yes, sadly in some places (embedded) there are people with older compiler who want newer kernels.
Last time I tried a mips build, it would fail the compile unless I was using _exactly_ 3.4.4 (I didn't tried older versions, but did try 3.4.6, for ex.). So I also think the 3.4 series will still have to be around for a while.
that's fixed and I'm happiliy building the MIPS tree with gcc 3.3.3. And I would be very unhappy to upgrade all my crosscompiler just because someone thinks nobody build -rc kernel with older compilers. I do.
Thomas.
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Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
In reply to Glauber de Oliveira CostaQuoted 4 lines · Glauber de Oliveira Costa
Last time I tried a mips build, it would fail the compile unless I was using _exactly_ 3.4.4 (I didn't tried older versions, but did try 3.4.6, for ex.). So I also think the 3.4 series will still have to be around for a while.
I don't know what broken MIPS platform you've tried. I keep changing between compiler versions all the time just so I can ensure builds with older compilers keep working until we officially deciede to drop support for them. So the minimum compiler version for 32-bit MIPS kernels is gcc 3.2 and for 64-bit kernel gcc 3.3.
But for sake of sanity and productivity I definately don't mind dumping support for gcc < 4.0 or maybe even 4.1. And while we're at it, let's deprecate ancient binutils version as well. A minimum version of 2.17 would be nice as I could get rid of lads of .word sillyness which is needed to support older binutils.
Ralf
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
In reply to Adrian BunkQuoted 1 line · Adrian Bunk
Obviously a gcc <= 3.4 [1], and therefore no unit-at-a-time.
Actually there are widely used 3.3 variants that support unit-at-a-time (e.g. 3.3-hammer which was shipped by several distributions for some time)
There are still a lot of systems around which use gcc 3.3 (less so with 3.4). Unless there's a major bug that is hard to work around I would prefer to keep it supported.
Bogus warnings should be relatively harmless.
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And it's becoming a real maintainance problem that not only this problem but also other problems like some section mismatches [2] are only present without unit-at-a-time.
The unit-at-a-time output order is not defined, so even if it works with the current compiler a compiler change might still trigger that problem. So it would be better to fix those anyways.
-Andi
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Quoted 11 lines · Andi Kleen
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Obviously a gcc <= 3.4 [1], and therefore no unit-at-a-time.
Actually there are widely used 3.3 variants that support unit-at-a-time (e.g. 3.3-hammer which was shipped by several distributions for some time)
There are still a lot of systems around which use gcc 3.3 (less so with 3.4). Unless there's a major bug that is hard to work around I would prefer to keep it supported.
Bogus warnings should be relatively harmless.
How many kernel developers use such old gcc versions?
And how many people notice the valid modpost warnings that can indicate a runtime Oops?
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And it's becoming a real maintainance problem that not only this problem but also other problems like some section mismatches [2] are only present without unit-at-a-time.
The unit-at-a-time output order is not defined, so even if it works with the current compiler a compiler change might still trigger that problem. So it would be better to fix those anyways.
The example [2] from my email is guaranteed to not be a problem with unit-at-a-time (as long as unit-at-a-time implies inline-functions-called-once - and that's although theoretically possible quite unlikely to change in practice).
This example is for a bug that should be fixed, but my point is the maintainability, IOW: issues with older compilers might not be discovered and fixed before they go into a stable kernel.
We currently support 6 different stable gcc release series plus heavily modified vendor branches like 3.3-hammer. We can discuss whether it is now already the right time, and where to make the cut, but medium-term we must reduce the number of supported compilers.
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[2] example: static __init function with exactly one caller, and this caller is non-__init
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Quoted 4 lines · Adrian Bunk
We currently support 6 different stable gcc release series plus heavily modified vendor branches like 3.3-hammer. We can discuss whether it is now already the right time, and where to make the cut, but medium-term we must reduce the number of supported compilers.
I don't think that's feasible. We're dealing with a situation where:
- GCC aim to release a new compiler series every 6 months. Fortunately, they don't achieve this goal, but they do release every 12 months or thereabouts [1].
- Enterprise distros are supported for seven years
- We still care about people being able to compile kernels on enterprise distros that are still supported by their vendor.
Yes, it causes us some pain to support all these different compilers, but it's not *that* big a pain.
[1] Release dates, according to the GCC website
2007-05-17 4.2.0 (14 months)
2006-02-28 4.1.0 (10 months)
2005-04-20 4.0.0 (12 months)
2004-04-20 3.4.0 (11 months)
2003-05-20 3.3 (12 months, ignoring gcc 3.2 which was really 3.1.2)
2002-05-15 3.1 (11 months)
2001-06-18 3.0
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Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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Bogus warnings should be relatively harmless.
How many kernel developers use such old gcc versions?
It's NOT about "kernel developers".
It's about random people testing kernels.
If we make it harder for people to test kernels, we're going to lose. So no, I vote for *not* cutting off old gcc versions unless it's absolutely fatal.
Linus
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Bogus warnings should be relatively harmless.
How many kernel developers use such old gcc versions?
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It's NOT about "kernel developers".
It's about random people testing kernels.
If we make it harder for people to test kernels, we're going to lose. So no, I vote for *not* cutting off old gcc versions unless it's absolutely fatal.
How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
How could anybody know?
Linus
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Quoted 7 lines · Linus Torvalds
Quoted 2 lines · Adrian Bunk
How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
How could anybody know?
It shouldn't be so hard:
a) statistically: by doing some random math with:
int number_of_seemingly_gcc3.2_reports_eg_per_rc;
int number_of_all_such_reports_eg_per_rc;
int estimated_number_of_all_users_or_developers;
(or maybe some more...)
b) precisely (or even more): by adding proper and often updated announcements, e.g:
"drivers/usb/host/ohci-pci.c:202: warning: unused variable `pdev' (BTW, Angelina and Brad will be very suprised this warning is yet possible!!!)"
Regards,
Jarek P.
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
Why would that matter? It either works or not. If it doesn't work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler version can be removed.
The only other policy than "only remove support if things are badly broken" would be "only support what the GCC team supports", which would be >= 4.1 now; and there are very good arguments for supporting more than that with the Linux kernel.
Segher
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
Why would that matter? It either works or not. If it doesn't work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler version can be removed.
One bug report "kernel doesn't work / crash / ... when compiled with gcc 3.2, but works when compiled with gcc 4.2" will most likely be lost in the big pile of unhandled bugs, not cause the removal of gcc 3.2 support...
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The only other policy than "only remove support if things are badly broken" would be "only support what the GCC team supports", which would be >= 4.1 now; and there are very good arguments for supporting more than that with the Linux kernel.
No, it's not about bugs in gcc, it's about kernel+gcc combinations that are mostly untested but officially supported.
E.g. how many kernel developers use kernels compiled without unit-at-a-time? And unit-at-a-time does paper over some bugs, e.g. at about half a dozen section mismatch bugs I've fixed recently are not present with it.
But as the discussions have shown gcc 4.0 is currently too high for making a cut, and it is not yet the right time for raising the minimum required gcc version.
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
Why would that matter? It either works or not. If it doesn't work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler version can be removed.
One bug report "kernel doesn't work / crash / ... when compiled with gcc 3.2, but works when compiled with gcc 4.2" will most likely be lost in the big pile of unhandled bugs, not cause the removal of gcc 3.2 support...
What's the bugzilla or pointer to this report please? Those of us who use gcc-3 as the default kernel compiler will take it seriously (if it looks to have an impact to our kernel builds) otherwise we can tell you it's unreproducible/not a problem etc.
James
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The only other policy than "only remove support if things are badly broken" would be "only support what the GCC team supports", which would be >= 4.1 now; and there are very good arguments for supporting more than that with the Linux kernel.
No, it's not about bugs in gcc, it's about kernel+gcc combinations that are mostly untested but officially supported.
E.g. how many kernel developers use kernels compiled without unit-at-a-time? And unit-at-a-time does paper over some bugs, e.g. at about half a dozen section mismatch bugs I've fixed recently are not present with it.
But as the discussions have shown gcc 4.0 is currently too high for making a cut, and it is not yet the right time for raising the minimum required gcc version.
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Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
Why would that matter? It either works or not. If it doesn't work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler version can be removed.
One bug report "kernel doesn't work / crash / ... when compiled with gcc 3.2, but works when compiled with gcc 4.2" will most likely be lost in the big pile of unhandled bugs, not cause the removal of gcc 3.2 support...
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What's the bugzilla or pointer to this report please? Those of us who use gcc-3 as the default kernel compiler will take it seriously (if it looks to have an impact to our kernel builds) otherwise we can tell you it's unreproducible/not a problem etc.
This was an example in response to Segher's point we would remove support for a gcc version in such a case.
I remember we had such issues, but I don't find any pointer to a specific one at the moment.
I'll keep you informed when bug reports come in that only occur with older gcc versions and that aren't easily fixable.
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
Why would that matter? It either works or not. If it doesn't work, it can either be fixed, or support for that old compiler version can be removed.
One bug report "kernel doesn't work / crash / ... when compiled with gcc 3.2, but works when compiled with gcc 4.2" will most likely be lost in the big pile of unhandled bugs, not cause the removal of gcc 3.2 support...
While that might be true, it's a separate problem.
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The only other policy than "only remove support if things are badly broken" would be "only support what the GCC team supports", which would be >= 4.1 now; and there are very good arguments for supporting more than that with the Linux kernel.
No, it's not about bugs in gcc, it's about kernel+gcc combinations that are mostly untested but officially supported.
What does "officially supported" mean? Especially the "officially" part. Is this documented somewhere?
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E.g. how many kernel developers use kernels compiled without unit-at-a-time? And unit-at-a-time does paper over some bugs, e.g. at about half a dozen section mismatch bugs I've fixed recently are not present with it.
If any developer is interested in supporting some certain old compiler version, he should be testing regularly with it. Sounds like that's you ;-)
If no developer is interested, we shouldn't claim to support using that compiler version.
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But as the discussions have shown gcc 4.0 is currently too high for making a cut, and it is not yet the right time for raising the minimum required gcc version.
Agreed.
Segher
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How many people e.g. test -rc kernels compiled with gcc 3.2?
I confirm gcc version:
~/src/linux-2.6.23-rc3$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-slackware-linux/3.2.3/specs Configured with: ../gcc-3.2.3/configure --prefix=/usr --enable-shared
--enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --disable-checkingi --with-gnu-ld --verbose --target=i486-slackware-linux --host=i486-slackware-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.2.3
glibc-2.3.2
Sorry, you have to guess this, but, after reporting long time ago some acpi make warnings, I didn't even suspect anybody would be interested more this time...
It's an old box with Slackware 9.1, and this make is the last stage of testing such a hot kernel version... But, according to README gcc 3.2 seems to be legal. (I hope there would be some warning about gcc too old, anyway.)
Cheers,
Jarek P.
RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
In reply to Adrian BunkHi all!
I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
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I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
They always lag behind.
Jan
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Quoted 7 lines · Jan Engelhardt
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I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
They always lag behind.
Yes! Probably that's why they are so darn good!
Jarek P.
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Quoted 10 lines · Jarek Poplawski
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I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
They always lag behind.
Yes! Probably that's why they are so darn good!
ISTR that even Ubuntu overtook Debian... what about Debian 4.x?
Jan
Re: RFC: drop support for gcc < 4.0
Hi,
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I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
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They always lag behind.
Yes! Probably that's why they are so darn good!
ISTR that even Ubuntu overtook Debian... what about Debian 4.x?
They are using gcc 4.1.1 as default
http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/gcc
Anyway, IMO dropping support for a compiler just because of warnings it is a bad thing.
Regards,
Michal
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I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
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They always lag behind.
Yes! Probably that's why they are so darn good!
ISTR that even Ubuntu overtook Debian... what about Debian 4.x?
I'm glad with KNOPPIX 4.0 too. But, I hope we don't think about Debian 3.1 etc. for a new box & new installation!
Since I've found lynx or links plus some html tool is not enough (too dangerous) to configure locally cups or samba (don't remember now, it was around the beginning of Ubuntu), and there is X and probably gnome necessary for this, and it wasn't like this with other distros, I think Ubuntu's way of thinking is definitely too good for me...
Jarek P.
PS: this could look like some flame war, or something, so let's say all (GPL2) Linux distros and all gcc versions are extremely nice! (...at least not less nice than BSDs...)
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I think it's bad idea, when removing support for gcc3.x, while some people using debian 3.1 at now and under debian 3.1 the default comiler is 3.3.5, when I good know or not!?
They always lag behind.
Debian 4.0 has GCC 4.1 as the default compiler, and we use 4.1 to compile our kernels on all architectures except of m68k.
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