Move linux-omap list over to vger?
Hi all,
There's been some discussion going on at LKML on how some people don't like subscriber only lists as they get bounces for their comments and some bug reports can get lost. As a result, Dave Miller has been creating some new lists on vger.kernel.org. [1][2]
I could see us benefiting from swithing over to use [email protected] as we're starting to get more and more patches and comments via LKML. Current subscriber only policy will make people not CC our list, which makes it harder to keep track of the patches.
Spam should not be a problem on vger like LKML already shows, and the infrastructure is already there so it would be an easy switchover.
Are people OK with this move in general?
If everybody is OK with this move, I'll email Dave Miller and ask him to set up the [email protected] for us.
Regards,
Tony
PS The current setup has served us well, so big thanks to TI for hosting it!
[1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/13/531
[2] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/14/89
Hi Tony,
Quoted 13 lines · Tony Lindgren
Hi all,
There's been some discussion going on at LKML on how some people don't like subscriber only lists as they get bounces for their comments and some bug reports can get lost. As a result, Dave Miller has been creating some new lists on vger.kernel.org. [1][2]
I could see us benefiting from swithing over to use [email protected] as we're starting to get more and more patches and comments via LKML. Current subscriber only policy will make people not CC our list, which makes it harder to keep track of the patches.
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Spam should not be a problem on vger like LKML already shows, and the infrastructure is already there so it would be an easy switchover.
Are people OK with this move in general?
I am OK for this move. More code, patch review comments and visibility of omap list will be good for OMAP series in general.
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PS The current setup has served us well, so big thanks to TI for hosting it!
Thanks to Steve Johnson and others at TI.
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Quoted 13 lines · Tony Lindgren
Hi all,
There's been some discussion going on at LKML on how some people don't like subscriber only lists as they get bounces for their comments and some bug reports can get lost. As a result, Dave Miller has been creating some new lists on vger.kernel.org. [1][2]
I could see us benefiting from swithing over to use [email protected] as we're starting to get more and more patches and comments via LKML. Current subscriber only policy will make people not CC our list, which makes it harder to keep track of the patches.
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Spam should not be a problem on vger like LKML already shows, and the infrastructure is already there so it would be an easy switchover.
Are people OK with this move in general?
If everybody is OK with this move, I'll email Dave Miller and ask him to set up the [email protected] for us.
I'd like it... Moving to vger would also make it easier to setup my messy procmail rules :-p
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Regards,
Tony
PS The current setup has served us well, so big thanks to TI for hosting it!
[1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/13/531
[2] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/14/89
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Are people OK with this move in general?
Sounds good to me.
Kevin
Yes, I'm in favor of it also.
- Paul
Hi Tony,
We at TI support this move, personally I feel this will bring in lot of technical value add / contributions to OMAP software.
However, before moving there were few concerns that we would like to discuss upon:
1. How to handle the mail archives that we maintain today?
- Should we copy them to major domo?
- Maintain them on current servers?
- How will a new subscriber refer to an old discussion captured on
archive?
2. How to handle the "who" query (to get the subscribers list) from majordomo?
- Disable "who" query for all (including subscribed members).
- Enable "who" query for all - Not recommended.
- Send a mail request to the maintainer "to send the subscriber's list"
later maintainer can check the genuineness of the request and provide the list.
3. By when do we want to make this move?
- Can we wait for couple of weeks?
- We can think of any other issues that we might have to encounter for
OMAP?
Thank you all for the support in building this strong community for OMAP.
Regards,
Khasim
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Subject: Move linux-omap list over to vger?
Hi all,
There's been some discussion going on at LKML on how some people don't like subscriber only lists as they get bounces for their comments and some bug reports can get lost. As a result, Dave Miller has been creating
some new lists on vger.kernel.org. [1][2]
I could see us benefiting from swithing over to use [email protected] as we're starting to get more and more patches and comments via LKML. Current subscriber only policy will make people not CC our list, which makes it harder to keep track of the patches.
Spam should not be a problem on vger like LKML already shows, and the infrastructure is already there so it would be an easy switchover.
Are people OK with this move in general?
If everybody is OK with this move, I'll email Dave Miller and ask him to set up the [email protected] for us.
Regards,
Tony
PS The current setup has served us well, so big thanks to TI for hosting it!
[1] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/13/531
[2] http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/11/14/89
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Hi,
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Hi Tony,
We at TI support this move, personally I feel this will bring in lot of technical value add / contributions to OMAP software.
OK sounds like everybody thinks we'll benefit from this move.
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However, before moving there were few concerns that we would like to discuss upon:
1. How to handle the mail archives that we maintain today?
- Should we copy them to major domo?
- Maintain them on current servers?
- How will a new subscriber refer to an old discussion captured on
archive?
I can ask if Dave Miller would be willing to import "old" archives, but that may not work as they are not vger archives. In any case we should keep the "old" archives at linux.omap.com, and I can also mirror the .gz file on kernel.org just in case.
Then on linux.omap.com we can have links to "old" archives and "new" archives.
So in general, I'd assume we'll be referring to linux.omap.com archives for the "old" discussions.
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2. How to handle the "who" query (to get the subscribers list) from majordomo?
- Disable "who" query for all (including subscribed members).
- Enable "who" query for all - Not recommended.
- Send a mail request to the maintainer "to send the subscriber's list"
later maintainer can check the genuineness of the request and provide the list.
I'd assume "who" is disabled by default on vger because of spammers, and the subscriber lists are only available to the maintainers.
I'm thinking we'll just ask people to resubscribe to the new list rather than import the old list.
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3. By when do we want to make this move?
- Can we wait for couple of weeks?
- We can think of any other issues that we might have to encounter for
OMAP?
How about let's plan on starting to use [email protected] list full time on Dec 1st?
We can set it up immediately and then will have few weeks to move over.
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Thank you all for the support in building this strong community for OMAP.
Yeah it's nice to see that we have a pretty decent omap development community now :)
Tony
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3. By when do we want to make this move?
- Can we wait for couple of weeks?
- We can think of any other issues that we might have to encounter for OMAP?How about let's plan on starting to use [email protected] list full time on Dec 1st?
We can set it up immediately and then will have few weeks to move over.
It's already there with currently four subscribers:
http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-omap
Now archive yet though. Anything to do to get it?
Anybody with access to the info section there? I would propose:
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This is the "new" mailing list for Linux on ARM based TI OMAP SoCs. For archive of "old" list see
http://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source
This list is medium traffic, ~10 mails per day, sometimes patches and patch series. Send OMAP related infos, bugs or patches to this list, at least in CC if they affect other subsystems. See
http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
for OMAP git kernel discussed on this list.
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And then, we should close subscription system to this list at Dec 1st and adapt text at
http://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source
accordingly, keeping the archive.
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Thank you all for the support in building this strong community for OMAP.
Yeah it's nice to see that we have a pretty decent omap development community now :)
Yes! Many thanks to everybody!
Dirk
Hi,
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3. By when do we want to make this move? - Can we wait for couple of weeks? - We can think of any other issues that we might have to encounter for
OMAP?How about let's plan on starting to use [email protected] list full time on Dec 1st?
We can set it up immediately and then will have few weeks to move over.
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It's already there with currently four subscribers:
http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-omap
Now archive yet though. Anything to do to get it?
I just emailed MARC about starting to archive it. I also copied the old archives as of today to kernel.org just in case to make sure we have them backed up. The files are available at [1] in case anybody needs them.
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Anybody with access to the info section there? I would propose:
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This is the "new" mailing list for Linux on ARM based TI OMAP SoCs. For archive of "old" list seehttp://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source
This list is medium traffic, ~10 mails per day, sometimes patches and patch series. Send OMAP related infos, bugs or patches to this list, at least in CC if they affect other subsystems. See
http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
for OMAP git kernel discussed on this list.
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And then, we should close subscription system to this list at Dec 1st and adapt text at
http://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source
accordingly, keeping the archive.
Sounds good to me. Maybe let's wait until we have MARC archiving it before sending it to webmaster@vger?
Tony
[1] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tmlind/linux-omap-opensource/
Hi,
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:00:20 +0100, Dirk Behme <[email protected]> wrote:
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It's already there with currently four subscribers:
Should we start using vger list also? maybe Cc'ing in all mails? Could [email protected] bounce mails to [email protected]?
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Now archive yet though. Anything to do to get it?
Anybody with access to the info section there? I would propose:
-- cut --
This is the "new" mailing list for Linux on ARM based TI OMAP SoCs. For archive of "old" list seehttp://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source
This list is medium traffic, ~10 mails per day, sometimes patches and patch series. Send OMAP related infos, bugs or patches to this list, at least in CC if they affect other subsystems. See
http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
for OMAP git kernel discussed on this list.
-- cut --And then, we should close subscription system to this list at Dec 1st and adapt text at
http://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source
accordingly, keeping the archive.
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Thank you all for the support in building this strong community for OMAP.
Yeah it's nice to see that we have a pretty decent omap development community now :)
Yes! Many thanks to everybody!
Dirk
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Hi,
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:00:20 +0100, Dirk Behme <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
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It's already there with currently four subscribers:
Should we start using vger list also? maybe Cc'ing in all mails? Could [email protected] bounce mails to [email protected]?
Well I sent a welcome message to linux-omap@vger, so it is functional. We might as well start to CC in all emails. (Added to CC on this message :)
Tony
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Quoted 11 lines · Felipe Balbi
Hi,
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:00:20 +0100, Dirk Behme <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
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It's already there with currently four subscribers:
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Should we start using vger list also? maybe Cc'ing in all mails? Could [email protected] bounce mails to [email protected]?
Well I sent a welcome message to linux-omap@vger, so it is functional. We might as well start to CC in all emails. (Added to CC on this message :)
BTW, everybody let's use CC instead of bouncing messages to the linux-omap@vger list. Also, let's not set up any automated forwarding to the new list.
This is because vger will reject all messages that already have Delivered-To in the header and the messages will pile up in Dave Miller's inbox :)
Tony