getting uninterruptible sleep processes after upgrade from 2.6.20.20 to 2.6.24.2
Hello!
One week ago we upgraded about 300 servers from 2.6.20.20 to 2.6.24.2.
Now we get sometimes dozent of processes in state DN. The system is completely idle - but the load is 20 or 90 or whatever. And it can only be "repaired" by rebooting the system.
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Thanks.
Stefan
Quoted 1 line · allied internet ag- Stefan Priebe
One week ago we upgraded about 300 servers from 2.6.20.20 to 2.6.24.2.
Did you test with *one* server before upgrading all 300? If not, please do and try to upgrade in smaller steps, e.g. 2.6.20->2.6.21 and see when it breaks. Add a few *DEBUG .config options, they may help narrowing down the problem...
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One week ago we upgraded about 300 servers from 2.6.20.20 to 2.6.24.2.
Painfull.
OK not really - i've tested the new kernel on all models. And it works fine... the DN state only comes sometimes - absolutely not reproducable. So my tests went OK and then we've done the update. I've now seen 5 servers in 7 days having this problem.
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Now we get sometimes dozent of processes in state DN. The system is completely idle - but the load is 20 or 90 or whatever. And it can only be "repaired" by rebooting the system.
please post sysrq-t (echo t >
/proc/sysrq-trigger) output.
Sorry what key is sysrq? Can i also do this via SSH Console?
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Did you test with *one* server before upgrading all 300? If not, please do and try to upgrade in smaller steps, e.g. 2.6.20->2.6.21 and see when it breaks. Add a few *DEBUG .config options, they may help narrowing down the problem...
Problem here is that it is not reproducable...
Stefan
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One week ago we upgraded about 300 servers from 2.6.20.20 to 2.6.24.2.
Painfull.
OK not really - i've tested the new kernel on all models. And it works fine... the DN state only comes sometimes - absolutely not reproducable. So my tests went OK and then we've done the update. I've now seen 5 servers in 7 days having this problem.
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Now we get sometimes dozent of processes in state DN. The system is completely idle - but the load is 20 or 90 or whatever. And it can only be "repaired" by rebooting the system.
please post sysrq-t (echo t >
/proc/sysrq-trigger) output.Sorry what key is sysrq? Can i also do this via SSH Console?
just do the echo above and it'll have the same effect as the key, and yes you can do this via ssh just fine (I do that all the time)
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Hello!
I've done the (echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger) now but i'm not able to get the whole output via dmesg.
Here is what i get:
# dmesg 3.432124] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.432226] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.432319] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.432416] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.432513] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.432606] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.432711] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.432802] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.432917] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.433013] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.433109] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.433194] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.433290] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.433375] [<c0114d72>] enqueue_entity+0x20/0x40 [272363.433465] [<c0114da6>] enqueue_task_fair+0x14/0x29 [272363.433559] [<c0113ee0>] enqueue_task+0xa/0x14 [272363.433646] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.433740] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.433836] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.433933] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.434024] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.434114] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.434208] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.434311] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.434404] [<c0325af2>] lock_sock_nested+0xa3/0xab [272363.434497] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.434588] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.434678] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.434766] [<c034e865>] tcp_recvmsg+0x1b7/0x7f0 [272363.434863] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.434959] [<c03253b2>] sock_common_recvmsg+0x3e/0x54 [272363.435064] [<c0323416>] sock_aio_read+0xd2/0xeb [272363.435152] [<c03295b1>] skb_release_all+0x4c/0xba [272363.435252] [<c015a530>] do_sync_read+0xd2/0x10e [272363.435351] [<c02b30ab>] speedo_interrupt+0x5e/0x6ed [272363.435447] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.435547] [<c017ee88>] inotify_inode_queue_event+0x31/0xe6 [272363.435651] [<c0328e26>] __kfree_skb+0x8/0x71 [272363.435748] [<c0166215>] sys_select+0x3f/0x1ab [272363.435839] [<c015b140>] sys_read+0x41/0x6a [272363.435929] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.436026] ======================= [272363.436092] imapd S e3193b1c 0 5667 5657 [272363.436198] ee1ab030 00200082 00000002 e3193b1c e3193b14 00000000 00000000 00000001 [272363.436389] ee1ab16c c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00200286 c04c3080 [272363.436609] e3193b40 040d856e 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 e3193b40 [272363.436821] Call Trace: [272363.436917] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.437017] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.437113] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.437209] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.437309] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.437399] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.437499] [<c0222730>] xlog_assign_tail_lsn+0x1d/0x3e [272363.437613] [<c0114d72>] enqueue_entity+0x20/0x40 [272363.437709] [<c0114da6>] enqueue_task_fair+0x14/0x29 [272363.437805] [<c0113ee0>] enqueue_task+0xa/0x14 [272363.437893] [<c01146cc>] update_curr+0xe1/0xe8 [272363.437986] [<c0114d72>] enqueue_entity+0x20/0x40 [272363.438079] [<c0114da6>] enqueue_task_fair+0x14/0x29 [272363.438173] [<c0113ee0>] enqueue_task+0xa/0x14 [272363.438258] [<c01146cc>] update_curr+0xe1/0xe8 [272363.438352] [<c0114d72>] enqueue_entity+0x20/0x40 [272363.438442] [<c0114da6>] enqueue_task_fair+0x14/0x29 [272363.438536] [<c0113ee0>] enqueue_task+0xa/0x14 [272363.438623] [<c0115b5a>] try_to_wake_up+0x42/0x278 [272363.438719] [<c0115f25>] __wake_up_sync+0x35/0x4d [272363.438813] [<c03276bb>] sock_wfree+0x36/0x38 [272363.438904] [<c01141f6>] __wake_up_common+0x46/0x68 [272363.439002] [<c0115f6f>] __wake_up+0x32/0x42 [272363.439093] [<c0327420>] sock_def_readable+0x66/0x68 [272363.439190] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.439287] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.439387] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.439489] [<c011464f>] update_curr+0x64/0xe8 [272363.439591] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.439690] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.439786] ======================= [272363.439854] du D 00000806 0 5910 1 [272363.439958] c0cdf570 00200082 cf811ef0 00000806 00000000 00000000 0580eba0 000041c0 [272363.440147] c0cdf6ac c281ec00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00002000 c04c3080 [272363.440367] 00001000 00000018 00000000 47bd1e82 06ed11c0 47bcd258 2b2a4ff7 c4bbd6f0 [272363.440589] Call Trace: [272363.440685] [<c03938f7>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x55/0x8b [272363.440788] [<c0164e28>] filldir64+0x0/0xc5 [272363.440877] [<c0393786>] mutex_lock+0xa/0xb [272363.440964] [<c0164fef>] vfs_readdir+0x3d/0x80 [272363.441055] [<c0165095>] sys_getdents64+0x63/0xa5 [272363.441151] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.441247] ======================= [272363.441316] qmail-pop3d D c281ba40 0 7478 1 [272363.441421] ce864570 00000082 00000024 c281ba40 00000002 d4f19f34 0580eba0 000041c0 [272363.441617] ce8646ac c281ec00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00002000 c04c3080 [272363.441829] 00001000 04074105 00000001 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000024 c4bbd6f0 [272363.442046] Call Trace: [272363.442139] [<c03938f7>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x55/0x8b [272363.442245] [<c0164e28>] filldir64+0x0/0xc5 [272363.442332] [<c0393786>] mutex_lock+0xa/0xb [272363.442422] [<c0164fef>] vfs_readdir+0x3d/0x80 [272363.442512] [<c0165095>] sys_getdents64+0x63/0xa5 [272363.442611] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.442707] ======================= [272363.442773] imapd S e9d93b1c 0 8227 1 [272363.442876] f7705570 00000086 00000002 e9d93b1c e9d93b14 00000000 00000000 00000001 [272363.443068] f77056ac c281ec00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00000286 c04c3080 [272363.443283] e9d93b40 040db74c 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 e9d93b40 [272363.443497] Call Trace: [272363.443593] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.443692] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.443788] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.443882] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.443987] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.444078] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.444183] [<c02b3bc7>] speedo_start_xmit+0x174/0x2b5 [272363.444282] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.444376] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.444476] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.444563] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.444681] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.444775] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.444871] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.444959] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.445055] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.445143] [<c0230204>] xfs_trans_unreserve_and_mod_sb+0xfb/0x3c5 [272363.445251] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.445348] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.445444] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.445538] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.445634] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.445725] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.445818] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.445920] [<c0230f45>] xfs_trans_tail_ail+0x13/0x2b [272363.446011] [<c0222730>] xlog_assign_tail_lsn+0x1d/0x3e [272363.446114] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.446207] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.446298] [<c034e16d>] tcp_sendmsg+0x7ab/0xb82 [272363.446397] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.446496] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.446598] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.446700] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.446798] [<c012e789>] ktime_get_ts+0x11/0x3a [272363.446894] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.446988] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.447081] ======================= [272363.447149] imapd S c2824aa0 0 9058 1 [272363.447258] f1476030 00000086 00000400 c2824aa0 00000002 e993fb18 80000000 e99d6180 [272363.447452] f147616c c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 e99d6b80 c0347dc3 00000286 c04c3080 [272363.447664] e993fb40 040db3c1 00000001 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000400 e993fb40 [272363.447884] Call Trace: [272363.447974] [<c0347dc3>] ip_send_reply+0x19b/0x1f5 [272363.451873] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.451970] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.452069] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.452165] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.452267] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.452358] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.452460] [<c02b3bc7>] speedo_start_xmit+0x174/0x2b5 [272363.452560] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.452656] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.452758] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.452849] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.452961] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.453055] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.453149] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.453236] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.453333] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.453417] [<c0230204>] xfs_trans_unreserve_and_mod_sb+0xfb/0x3c5 [272363.453526] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.453623] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.453719] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.453818] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.453911] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.454007] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.454100] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.454201] [<c0230f45>] xfs_trans_tail_ail+0x13/0x2b [272363.454297] [<c0222730>] xlog_assign_tail_lsn+0x1d/0x3e [272363.454399] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.454490] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.454580] [<c034e16d>] tcp_sendmsg+0x7ab/0xb82 [272363.454682] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.454779] [<c02b2d3c>] speedo_tx_buffer_gc+0x82/0x1ab [272363.454881] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.454978] [<c02b30ab>] speedo_interrupt+0x5e/0x6ed [272363.455072] [<c03295b1>] skb_release_all+0x4c/0xba [272363.455169] [<c0328e26>] __kfree_skb+0x8/0x71 [272363.455262] [<c032ffd0>] net_tx_action+0x43/0xe0 [272363.455355] [<c011f422>] __do_softirq+0x72/0xdf [272363.455449] [<c0104f29>] do_IRQ+0x40/0x77 [272363.455534] [<c0103157>] common_interrupt+0x23/0x28 [272363.455633] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.455732] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.455823] [<c0390000>] qword_get+0x14d/0x27c [272363.455916] ======================= [272363.455989] qmail-pop3d D c2e2df38 0 9076 1 [272363.456099] f1e71ab0 00000082 c2e2df30 c2e2df38 c2e2df30 00000000 0580eba0 000041c0 [272363.456297] f1e71bec c2830c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00002000 c04c3080 [272363.456517] 00001000 040819b1 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 0000006e c4bbd6f0 [272363.456734] Call Trace: [272363.456827] [<c03938f7>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x55/0x8b [272363.456933] [<c0164e28>] filldir64+0x0/0xc5 [272363.457015] [<c0393786>] mutex_lock+0xa/0xb [272363.457102] [<c0164fef>] vfs_readdir+0x3d/0x80 [272363.457196] [<c0165095>] sys_getdents64+0x63/0xa5 [272363.457292] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.457388] ======================= [272363.457456] imapd S f6261b1c 0 10556 1 [272363.457559] f73af570 00000086 00000002 f6261b1c f6261b14 00000000 f55c0940 c2827c34 [272363.457753] f73af6ac c2815c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 f73af570 c04493a0 00000282 c04c3080 [272363.457976] f6261b40 040db74d 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 f6261b40 [272363.458190] Call Trace: [272363.458284] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.458383] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.458479] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.458572] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.458672] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.458764] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.458867] [<c02b3bc7>] speedo_start_xmit+0x174/0x2b5 [272363.458969] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.459062] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.459165] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.459253] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.459365] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.459462] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.459558] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.459649] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.459745] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.459829] [<c0230204>] xfs_trans_unreserve_and_mod_sb+0xfb/0x3c5 [272363.459942] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.460038] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.460135] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.460234] [<c02b2d3c>] speedo_tx_buffer_gc+0x82/0x1ab [272363.460333] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.460424] [<c02b30ab>] speedo_interrupt+0x5e/0x6ed [272363.460520] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.460629] [<c03295b1>] skb_release_all+0x4c/0xba [272363.460723] [<c0220050>] xfs_iomap_write_direct+0x1a6/0x5b6 [272363.460828] [<c0328e26>] __kfree_skb+0x8/0x71 [272363.460924] [<c032ffd0>] net_tx_action+0x43/0xe0 [272363.461018] [<c011f422>] __do_softirq+0x72/0xdf [272363.461114] [<c0104f29>] do_IRQ+0x40/0x77 [272363.461201] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.461300] [<c032327f>] sock_aio_write+0x20/0xe5 [272363.461403] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.461505] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.461608] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.461704] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.461797] [<c0390000>] qword_get+0x14d/0x27c [272363.461893] ======================= [272363.461961] imapd S e31bfb1c 0 10557 1 [272363.462067] eb633570 00000082 00000002 e31bfb1c e31bfb14 00000000 00000000 00000001 [272363.462259] eb6336ac c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00000286 c04c3080 [272363.462479] e31bfb40 040dcb3f 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 e31bfb40 [272363.462693] Call Trace: [272363.462786] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.462885] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.462978] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.463072] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.463172] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.463262] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.463361] [<c02b3bc7>] speedo_start_xmit+0x174/0x2b5 [272363.463463] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.463557] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.463654] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.463745] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.463853] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.463947] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.464035] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.464122] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.464212] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.464297] [<c0230204>] xfs_trans_unreserve_and_mod_sb+0xfb/0x3c5 [272363.464395] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.464485] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.464578] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.464666] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.464754] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.464841] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.464931] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.465025] [<c0230f45>] xfs_trans_tail_ail+0x13/0x2b [272363.465118] [<c0222730>] xlog_assign_tail_lsn+0x1d/0x3e [272363.465215] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.465299] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.465389] [<c034e16d>] tcp_sendmsg+0x7ab/0xb82 [272363.465480] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.465576] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.465667] [<c02b30ab>] speedo_interrupt+0x5e/0x6ed [272363.465760] [<c03295b1>] skb_release_all+0x4c/0xba [272363.465850] [<c0328e26>] __kfree_skb+0x8/0x71 [272363.465935] [<c032ffd0>] net_tx_action+0x43/0xe0 [272363.466022] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.466112] [<c011f422>] __do_softirq+0x72/0xdf [272363.466205] [<c0104f29>] do_IRQ+0x40/0x77 [272363.466289] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.466380] [<c0103157>] common_interrupt+0x23/0x28 [272363.466473] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.466567] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.466660] ======================= [272363.466725] qmail-pop3d D ebec9f38 0 10992 1 [272363.466831] f077cab0 00000086 00000002 ebec9f38 ebec9f30 00000000 0580eba0 000041c0 [272363.467015] f077cbec c2830c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00002000 c04c3080 [272363.467226] 00001000 0408e8c2 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 c4bbd6f0 [272363.467436] Call Trace: [272363.467530] [<c03938f7>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x55/0x8b [272363.467626] [<c0164e28>] filldir64+0x0/0xc5 [272363.467710] [<c0393786>] mutex_lock+0xa/0xb [272363.467794] [<c0164fef>] vfs_readdir+0x3d/0x80 [272363.467881] [<c0165095>] sys_getdents64+0x63/0xa5 [272363.467977] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.468068] ======================= [272363.468136] imapd S f1c65f10 0 11091 1 [272363.468242] f5174030 00000082 00000002 f1c65f10 f1c65f08 00000000 f1c65f3c f56dde3c [272363.468430] f517416c c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c2824fd8 f1c65f3c c2824fd8 c04c3080 [272363.468637] 00000286 040dce0f 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 f1c65f3c [272363.468853] Call Trace: [272363.468946] [<c039397f>] do_nanosleep+0x52/0x6d [272363.469033] [<c012e5e9>] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x39/0xb9 [272363.472941] [<c012e05c>] hrtimer_wakeup+0x0/0x18 [272363.473029] [<c0393973>] do_nanosleep+0x46/0x6d [272363.473122] [<c012e6cd>] sys_nanosleep+0x64/0x99 [272363.473209] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.473297] ======================= [272363.473363] imapd S f0bf3f10 0 11876 1 [272363.473466] ee817ab0 00000086 00000002 f0bf3f10 f0bf3f08 00000000 f0bf3f3c c2ea9f3c [272363.473649] ee817bec c2830c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c282dfd8 f0bf3f3c c282dfd8 c04c3080 [272363.473863] 00000286 040dce61 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 f0bf3f3c [272363.474077] Call Trace: [272363.474172] [<c039397f>] do_nanosleep+0x52/0x6d [272363.474260] [<c012e5e9>] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x39/0xb9 [272363.474348] [<c012e05c>] hrtimer_wakeup+0x0/0x18 [272363.474435] [<c0393973>] do_nanosleep+0x46/0x6d [272363.474525] [<c012e6cd>] sys_nanosleep+0x64/0x99 [272363.474613] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.474702] ======================= [272363.474770] imapd S f359fb1c 0 13163 1 [272363.474871] f37d3570 00000086 00000002 f359fb1c f359fb14 00000000 00000000 00000001 [272363.475051] f37d36ac c2830c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00000286 c04c3080 [272363.475265] f359fb40 040db748 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 f359fb40 [272363.475485] Call Trace: [272363.475578] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.475671] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.475761] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.475849] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.475946] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.476033] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.476127] [<c02b3bc7>] speedo_start_xmit+0x174/0x2b5 [272363.476223] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.476310] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.476407] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.476494] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.476601] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.476691] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.476784] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.476868] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.476959] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.477043] [<c0230204>] xfs_trans_unreserve_and_mod_sb+0xfb/0x3c5 [272363.477146] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.477236] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.477329] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.477417] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.477507] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.477592] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.477682] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.477776] [<c0230f45>] xfs_trans_tail_ail+0x13/0x2b [272363.477866] [<c0222730>] xlog_assign_tail_lsn+0x1d/0x3e [272363.477963] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.478050] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.478140] [<c034e16d>] tcp_sendmsg+0x7ab/0xb82 [272363.478233] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.478329] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.478426] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.478522] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.478615] [<c012e789>] ktime_get_ts+0x11/0x3a [272363.478711] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.478801] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.478888] [<c0390000>] qword_get+0x14d/0x27c [272363.478981] ======================= [272363.479047] imapd S ebfb1f10 0 13192 1 [272363.479153] e2102030 00000086 00000002 ebfb1f10 ebfb1f08 00000000 ebfb1f3c f1c65f3c [272363.479336] e210216c c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c2824fd8 ebfb1f3c c2824fd8 c04c3080 [272363.479548] 00000286 040dce0f 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 ebfb1f3c [272363.479761] Call Trace: [272363.479854] [<c039397f>] do_nanosleep+0x52/0x6d [272363.479952] [<c012e5e9>] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x39/0xb9 [272363.480043] [<c012e05c>] hrtimer_wakeup+0x0/0x18 [272363.480133] [<c0393973>] do_nanosleep+0x46/0x6d [272363.480224] [<c012e6cd>] sys_nanosleep+0x64/0x99 [272363.480311] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.480401] ======================= [272363.480469] imapd S f4393f10 0 13326 1 [272363.480572] f44e9570 00000086 00000002 f4393f10 f4393f08 00000000 f4393f3c f24aff3c [272363.480751] f44e96ac c2815c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c2812fd8 f4393f3c c2812fd8 c04c3080 [272363.480960] 00000286 040dce1a 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 f4393f3c [272363.481168] Call Trace: [272363.481263] [<c039397f>] do_nanosleep+0x52/0x6d [272363.481354] [<c012e5e9>] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x39/0xb9 [272363.481444] [<c012e05c>] hrtimer_wakeup+0x0/0x18 [272363.481535] [<c0393973>] do_nanosleep+0x46/0x6d [272363.481625] [<c012e6cd>] sys_nanosleep+0x64/0x99 [272363.481712] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.481802] ======================= [272363.481868] qmail-pop3d D ee83bf38 0 13387 1 [272363.481974] dc4b8030 00000082 00000002 ee83bf38 ee83bf30 00000000 0580eba0 000041c0 [272363.482155] dc4b816c c2815c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00002000 c04c3080 [272363.482366] 00001000 040a075d 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 c4bbd6f0 [272363.482576] Call Trace: [272363.482670] [<c03938f7>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x55/0x8b [272363.482770] [<c0164e28>] filldir64+0x0/0xc5 [272363.482854] [<c0393786>] mutex_lock+0xa/0xb [272363.482938] [<c0164fef>] vfs_readdir+0x3d/0x80 [272363.483028] [<c0165095>] sys_getdents64+0x63/0xa5 [272363.483113] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.483203] ======================= [272363.483271] imapd S c2ea9f10 0 13444 1 [272363.483375] eda7d570 00000082 00000002 c2ea9f10 c2ea9f08 00000000 c2ea9f3c f0bf3f3c [272363.483555] eda7d6ac c2830c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c282dfd8 c2ea9f3c c282dfd8 c04c3080 [272363.483762] 00000286 040dce61 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 c2ea9f3c [272363.483979] Call Trace: [272363.484072] [<c039397f>] do_nanosleep+0x52/0x6d [272363.484164] [<c012e5e9>] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x39/0xb9 [272363.484255] [<c012e05c>] hrtimer_wakeup+0x0/0x18 [272363.484348] [<c0393973>] do_nanosleep+0x46/0x6d [272363.484441] [<c012e6cd>] sys_nanosleep+0x64/0x99 [272363.484531] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.484618] ======================= [272363.484687] imapd S d766ff10 0 13844 1 [272363.484792] f700e030 00000086 00000002 d766ff10 d766ff08 00000000 d766ff3c ebfb1f3c [272363.484974] f700e16c c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c2824fd8 d766ff3c c2824fd8 c04c3080 [272363.485183] 00000286 040dce0f 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 d766ff3c [272363.485398] Call Trace: [272363.485491] [<c039397f>] do_nanosleep+0x52/0x6d [272363.485578] [<c012e5e9>] hrtimer_nanosleep+0x39/0xb9 [272363.485666] [<c012e05c>] hrtimer_wakeup+0x0/0x18 [272363.485756] [<c0393973>] do_nanosleep+0x46/0x6d [272363.485849] [<c012e6cd>] sys_nanosleep+0x64/0x99 [272363.485936] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.486027] ======================= [272363.486095] imapd S f4b43b1c 0 13994 1 [272363.486198] e87a9570 00000086 00000002 f4b43b1c f4b43b14 00000000 00000000 00000001 [272363.486381] e87a96ac c2830c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 00000000 00000000 00000286 c04c3080 [272363.486596] f4b43b40 040db3aa 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 f4b43b40 [272363.486812] Call Trace: [272363.486905] [<c0393568>] schedule_timeout+0x44/0xa1 [272363.486998] [<c01227b1>] process_timeout+0x0/0x5 [272363.487091] [<c0393563>] schedule_timeout+0x3f/0xa1 [272363.487178] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.487275] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.487362] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.487462] [<c02b3bc7>] speedo_start_xmit+0x174/0x2b5 [272363.487561] [<c03945e8>] _read_lock_bh+0x8/0x17 [272363.487652] [<c032e1dc>] dev_hard_start_xmit+0x1d6/0x2a3 [272363.487746] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.487831] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.487943] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.488034] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.488127] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.488214] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.488304] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.488386] [<c0230204>] xfs_trans_unreserve_and_mod_sb+0xfb/0x3c5 [272363.488492] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.488585] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.488679] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.488770] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.488855] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.488956] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.489041] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.489144] [<c0230f45>] xfs_trans_tail_ail+0x13/0x2b [272363.489240] [<c0222730>] xlog_assign_tail_lsn+0x1d/0x3e [272363.489337] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.489428] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.489515] [<c034e16d>] tcp_sendmsg+0x7ab/0xb82 [272363.489615] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.489709] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.493615] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.493709] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.493808] [<c01662ba>] sys_select+0xe4/0x1ab [272363.493901] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.493989] ======================= [272363.494055] sshd S d7651b1c 0 15678 1824 [272363.494161] ce864ab0 00000086 00000002 d7651b1c d7651b14 00000000 040dc536 00000001 [272363.494336] ce864bec c2827c00 c04c3080 c04c3080 c04c6a80 c011f422 0000000a c04c3080 [272363.494548] 00000046 040dcef1 00000000 ffffffff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000009 [272363.494758] Call Trace: [272363.494846] [<c011f422>] __do_softirq+0x72/0xdf [272363.494942] [<c039358d>] schedule_timeout+0x69/0xa1 [272363.495032] [<c0294840>] normal_poll+0x0/0x130 [272363.495116] [<c012b98c>] add_wait_queue+0xf/0x33 [272363.495203] [<c037b4c9>] unix_poll+0x17/0x9c [272363.495288] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.495375] [<c01178e6>] scheduler_tick+0xd3/0x11b [272363.495472] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.495559] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.495653] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.495749] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.495842] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.495939] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8 [272363.496029] [<c033a0dd>] __qdisc_run+0x75/0x197 [272363.496114] [<f8a9f000>] ipt_local_out_hook+0x0/0x6c [iptable_filter] [272363.496223] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.496313] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.496404] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.496491] [<c0347fba>] ip_queue_xmit+0x19d/0x3aa [272363.496581] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.496662] [<c033037b>] dev_queue_xmit+0x89/0x2de [272363.496750] [<c034727d>] ip_finish_output+0x135/0x28e [272363.496840] [<c0345ad0>] dst_output+0x0/0x7 [272363.496924] [<c035cb91>] tcp_v4_send_check+0x38/0xc2 [272363.497012] [<c03576d0>] tcp_transmit_skb+0x39e/0x721 [272363.497103] [<c0122919>] lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35 [272363.497188] [<c035ab0e>] tcp_write_timer+0x0/0x6a2 [272363.497278] [<c0122a33>] __mod_timer+0x9b/0xaa [272363.497365] [<c0325b24>] sk_reset_timer+0xc/0x16 [272363.497453] [<c0359060>] __tcp_push_pending_frames+0x121/0x85f [272363.497547] [<c0114b79>] resched_task+0x51/0x57 [272363.497632] [<c0115b5a>] try_to_wake_up+0x42/0x278 [272363.497725] [<c039467f>] _spin_lock_bh+0x8/0x18 [272363.497810] [<c03259d1>] release_sock+0x12/0x90 [272363.497900] [<c034e16d>] tcp_sendmsg+0x7ab/0xb82 [272363.497990] [<c0165ca8>] core_sys_select+0x1b9/0x2c3 [272363.498083] [<c03253b2>] sock_common_recvmsg+0x3e/0x54 [272363.498177] [<c032332a>] sock_aio_write+0xcb/0xe5 [272363.498273] [<c015a422>] do_sync_write+0xd2/0x10e [272363.498364] [<c02b2d3c>] speedo_tx_buffer_gc+0x82/0x1ab [272363.498463] [<c02b30ab>] speedo_interrupt+0x5e/0x6ed [272363.498551] [<c012b7cc>] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x37 [272363.498645] [<c03295b1>] skb_release_all+0x4c/0xba [272363.498735] [<c0328e26>] __kfree_skb+0x8/0x71 [272363.498825] [<c0166215>] sys_select+0x3f/0x1ab [272363.498912] [<c0104f29>] do_IRQ+0x40/0x77 [272363.498996] [<c015b1aa>] sys_write+0x41/0x6a [272363.499083] [<c01027ae>] syscall_call+0x7/0xb [272363.499176] ======================= [272363.499242] bash R running 0 15683 15678
Regards,
Stefan
Stefan Priebe - allied internet ag napsal(a):
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Hello!
I've done the (echo t >
/proc/sysrq-trigger) now but i'm not able to get the whole output via dmesg.Here is what i get:
# dmesg 3.432124] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.432226] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.432319] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8
dmesg ring buffer is too small to fit this in. Please repeat it once again with bigger ringbuffer (dmesg -s if you have this chosen in your kernel) or post /var/log/meassages output of all processes. I see only waiters in readdir, not seeing who could block them.
Which filesystem did you run du on?
Hello!
I'm using XFS. dmesg -s32000 does not help - no more output. In messages there is also no relevant output. Other than what I've posted here:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/21/76
Sorry but i cannot recompile the kernel on all machines again - another downtime is not possible at the moment.
Stefan
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Stefan Priebe - allied internet ag napsal(a):
Quoted 10 lines
Hello!
I've done the (echo t >
/proc/sysrq-trigger) now but i'm not able to get the whole output via dmesg.Here is what i get:
# dmesg 3.432124] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.432226] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.432319] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8dmesg ring buffer is too small to fit this in. Please repeat it once again with bigger ringbuffer (dmesg -s if you have this chosen in your kernel) or post
/var/log/meassagesoutput of all processes. I see only waiters in readdir, not seeing who could block them.Which filesystem did you run du on?
Ccing xfs team
Quoted 4 lines · Stefan Priebe - allied internet ag
Hello!
I'm using XFS. dmesg -s32000 does not help - no more output. In messages there is also no relevant output. Other than what I've posted here:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/21/76
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/21/86
Some kind of borkage in readdir, probably either in xfs or vfs?
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Sorry but i cannot recompile the kernel on all machines again - another downtime is not possible at the moment.
Stefan
Quoted 18 lines · Jiri Slaby
Stefan Priebe - allied internet ag napsal(a):
Quoted 10 lines
Hello!
I've done the (echo t >
/proc/sysrq-trigger) now but i'm not able to get the whole output via dmesg.Here is what i get:
# dmesg 3.432124] [<c0165a11>] do_select+0x390/0x46e [272363.432226] [<c0166107>] __pollwait+0x0/0xcf [272363.432319] [<c0115d90>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x8dmesg ring buffer is too small to fit this in. Please repeat it once again with bigger ringbuffer (dmesg -s if you have this chosen in your kernel) or post
/var/log/meassagesoutput of all processes. I see only waiters in readdir, not seeing who could block them.Which filesystem did you run du on?
Quoted 5 lines · Jiri Slaby
Ccing xfs team
Quoted 2 lines · Stefan Priebe - allied internet ag
Hello!
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I'm using XFS. dmesg -s32000 does not help - no more output. In messages there is also no relevant output. Other than what I've posted here:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/21/76http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/21/86
Some kind of borkage in readdir, probably either in xfs or vfs?
Fixed in 2.6.24.3.
Please upgrade.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Dave Chinner Principal Engineer SGI Australian Software Group
Quoted 3 lines · allied internet ag- Stefan Priebe
Hello!
One week ago we upgraded about 300 servers from 2.6.20.20 to 2.6.24.2.
Painfull.
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Now we get sometimes dozent of processes in state DN. The system is completely idle - but the load is 20 or 90 or whatever. And it can only be "repaired" by rebooting the system.
please post sysrq-t (echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger) output.
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