x86: check for and defend against BIOS memory corruption
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RFC PATCH 1/1 x86: check for and defend against BIOS memory corruption
Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k. This patch does two things:
- Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
- Adds a function check_for_bios_corruption() which checks and reports on memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.
RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
[ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
1: corruption messages
2: no crashes
Thanks -J
]
--- Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 ++ arch/x86/Kconfig | 3 + arch/x86/kernel/setup.c | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/x86/mm/fault.c | 2 drivers/base/power/main.c | 1 include/linux/kernel.h | 12 ++++ 6 files changed, 109 insertions(+)
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Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +5 -0
@@ -359,6 +359,11 @@ BayCom Serial Port AX.25 Modem (Half Duplex Mode) Format: <io>,<irq>,<mode> See header of drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_ser_hdx.c. + + bios_corruption_check=0/1 [X86] + Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the first 64k of memory + when doing things like suspend/resume. Setting this + option will scan the memory looking for corruption. boot_delay= Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot. Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to
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arch/x86/Kconfig +3 -0
@@ -203,6 +203,9 @@ bool depends on X86_SMP || (X86_VOYAGER && SMP) || (64BIT && ACPI_SLEEP) default y + +config X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION + def_bool y config KTIME_SCALAR def_bool X86_32
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +86 -0
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arch/x86/mm/fault.c +2 -0
@@ -864,6 +864,8 @@* Oops. The kernel tried to access some bad page. We'll have to * terminate things with extreme prejudice. */ +check_for_bios_corruption (); +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_32 bust_spinlocks (1 );#else
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drivers/base/power/main.c +1 -0
@@ -254,6 +254,7 @@static void pm_dev_dbg (struct device *dev,pm_message_t state,char *info) { +check_for_bios_corruption ();dev_dbg (dev,"%s%s%s\n" , info,pm_verb (state.event), ((state.event &PM_EVENT_SLEEP ) &&device_may_wakeup (dev)) ?", may wakeup" :"" );
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include/linux/kernel.h +12 -0
@@ -246,6 +246,18 @@extern void add_taint (unsigned );extern int root_mountflags; +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +/* +* This is obviously not a great place for this, but we want to be +* able to scatter it around anywhere in the kernel. +*/ +void check_for_bios_corruption (void ); +#else +static inline void check_for_bios_corruption (void ) +{ +} +#endif +/* Values used for system_state */ extern enum system_states { SYSTEM_BOOTING,
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]> wrote:> Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k. This> patch does two things:> - Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to> prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things> like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.> - Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.> - Adds a function check_for_bios_corruption() which checks and reports on> memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the> x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.>> RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?>> [ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:> 1: corruption messages> 2: no crashes> Thanks -J> ]>> Signed-off-by: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>> Cc: Alan Jenkins <[email protected]>> Cc: Hugh Dickens <[email protected]>> Cc: Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <[email protected]>> Cc: Rafał Miłecki <[email protected]>> Cc: H. Peter Anvin <[email protected]>> ---> Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 ++> arch/x86/Kconfig | 3 +> arch/x86/kernel/setup.c | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++> arch/x86/mm/fault.c | 2> drivers/base/power/main.c | 1> include/linux/kernel.h | 12 ++++> 6 files changed, 109 insertions(+)>> ===================================================================> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt> @@ -359,6 +359,11 @@> BayCom Serial Port AX.25 Modem (Half Duplex Mode)> Format: <io>,<irq>,<mode>> See header of drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_ser_hdx.c.> +> + bios_corruption_check=0/1 [X86]> + Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the first 64k of memory> + when doing things like suspend/resume. Setting this> + option will scan the memory looking for corruption.>> boot_delay= Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot.> Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to> ===================================================================> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig> @@ -203,6 +203,9 @@> bool> depends on X86_SMP || (X86_VOYAGER && SMP) || (64BIT && ACPI_SLEEP)> default y> +> +config X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION> + def_bool y>> config KTIME_SCALAR> def_bool X86_32> ===================================================================> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/setup.c> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/setup.c> @@ -582,6 +582,88 @@> struct x86_quirks *x86_quirks __initdata = &default_x86_quirks;>> /*> + * Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the low 64k of memory during events> + * like suspend/resume and unplugging an HDMI cable. Reserve all> + * remaining free memory in that area and fill it with a distinct> + * pattern.> + */> +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION> +#define MAX_SCAN_AREAS 8> +static struct e820entry scan_areas[MAX_SCAN_AREAS];> +static int num_scan_areas;> +> +static void __init setup_bios_corruption_check(void)> +{> + u64 addr = PAGE_SIZE; /* assume first page is reserved anyway */> +
can you please not punish systems without this bios problem?
if (!bios_corruption_check) return;
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while(addr < 0x10000 && num_scan_areas < MAX_SCAN_AREAS){> + u64 size;> + addr =find_e820_area_size(addr, &size, PAGE_SIZE);> +> + if (addr == 0)> + break;> +> + if ((addr + size) >0x10000)> + size =0x10000- addr;> +> + if (size == 0)> + break;> +> +e820_update_range(addr, size, E820_RAM, E820_RESERVED);> + scan_areas[num_scan_areas].addr = addr;> + scan_areas[num_scan_areas].size = size;> + num_scan_areas++;> +> + /* Assume we've already mapped this early memory */> +memset(__va(addr), 0, size);> +> + addr += size;> + }> +> +printk(KERN_INFO "scanning %d areas for BIOS corruption\n",> + num_scan_areas);> +update_e820();> +}> +> +static int__read_mostlybios_corruption_check= 1;
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Quoted 74 lines · Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k. This patch does two things:
- Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
- Adds a functioncheck_for_bios_corruption()which checks and reports on memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
[ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
1: corruption messages
2: no crashes
Thanks -J
]Signed-off-by Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>Cc Alan Jenkins <[email protected]>Cc Hugh Dickens <[email protected]>Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>Cc Rafael J. Wysocki <[email protected]>Cc Rafał Miłecki <[email protected]>Cc H. Peter Anvin <[email protected]>--- Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 ++ arch/x86/Kconfig | 3 + arch/x86/kernel/setup.c | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/x86/mm/fault.c | 2 drivers/base/power/main.c | 1 include/linux/kernel.h | 12 ++++ 6 files changed, 109 insertions(+)===================================================================
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +5
-0@@ -359,6 +359,11 @@ BayCom Serial Port AX.25 Modem (Half Duplex Mode) Format: <io>,<irq>,<mode> See header of drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_ser_hdx.c. + + bios_corruption_check=0/1 [X86] + Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the first 64k of memory + when doing things like suspend/resume. Setting this + option will scan the memory looking for corruption. boot_delay= Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot. Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to===================================================================
arch/x86/Kconfig +3
-0@@ -203,6 +203,9 @@ bool depends on X86_SMP || (X86_VOYAGER && SMP) || (64BIT && ACPI_SLEEP) default y + +config X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION + def_bool y config KTIME_SCALAR def_bool X86_32===================================================================
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +5
-0@@ -582,6 +582,88 @@struct x86_quirks *x86_quirks__initdata = &default_x86_quirks;/* +* Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the low 64k of memory during events +* like suspend/resume and unplugging an HDMI cable. Reserve all +* remaining free memory in that area and fill it with a distinct +* pattern. +*/ arch/x86/kernel/setup.c line 599
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +9
-0+#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +#define MAX_SCAN_AREAS 8 +static struct e820entry scan_areas[MAX_SCAN_AREAS ]; +static int num_scan_areas; + +static void __init setup_bios_corruption_check (void ) +{ +u64 addr =PAGE_SIZE ;/* assume first page is reserved anyway */ +can you please not punish systems without this bios problem?
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if (!bios_corruption_check)
return;
Yeah, OK, but I think it should default to ON for now. The problem is that we had two very different systems (Sony Vaio and Intel desktop) exhibit the same problem in two different ways. These systems worked fine until we slightly changed the way that pagetable memory was allocated. We just don't know how many other systems are doing this kind of subtle corruption of low memory.
J
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- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
You ought to pick different values on different runs 0x00, 0xFF, 0xAA, 0x55 etc...
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Yeah, OK, but I think it should default to ON for now. The problem is that we had two very different systems (Sony Vaio and Intel desktop)
So a zillion people should lose a chunk of RAM because of what is probably an obscure bug in a single version of a piece of SMM code on two systems total ?
That appears to be totally out of proportion - plus the defaults are *irrelevant* for mass user coverage. If you want large scale coverage ask the Fedora, OpenSuSE and Ubuntu people to turn it on for a testing kernel release and report back.
Alan
Out of current discussion I tried using s2ram on patched kernel (I didnot try s2ram earlier, my problem was (un)plugging HDMI - some ACPIcode probably). Corruption output is quite huge, I attached it to bug report:http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11237http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=17526
I do not know much about current discussion and fact if checking forcorruption should be enabled by default.
However, please note that end-user will not able to diagnose thatLinux doesn't work on his machine because of less-or-more broken BIOS.He will not get to know that he needs to enablebios_corruption_check=1 and edit grub to make it default. I understand that disabling chunk of RAM on every, even not affected,machine is far from perfect, but we have to remember about notadvanced end-users.
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I understand that disabling chunk of RAM on every, even not affected, machine is far from perfect, but we have to remember about not advanced end-users.
Including not advanced end users without the bug ... which is probably all but one or two people.
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Out of current discussion I tried using s2ram on patched kernel (I did not try s2ram earlier, my problem was (un)plugging HDMI - some ACPI code probably).
Corruption output is quite huge, I attached it to bug report:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11237
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=17526
Not quite the output we were expecting! I've not got around to trying it yet, so beware, but I think Jeremy's patch needs the following on top. Or you may prefer to wait until one of us reports that it is now working as intended.
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +2 -1
@@ -636,11 +636,12 @@ void check_for_bios_corruption(void)unsigned long *addr =__va (scan_areas[i].addr);unsigned long size = scan_areas[i].size; -for (; size; addr++, size--) { +for (; size; addr++, size -=sizeof (unsigned long )) {if (!*addr)continue ;printk (KERN_ERR "Corrupted low memory at %p (%lx phys) = %08lx\n" , addr,__pa (addr), *addr); + *addr =0 ; corruption =1 ; } }
2008/8/29 Hugh Dickins <[email protected]>:>> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Rafał Miłecki wrote:>>>> Out of current discussion I tried using s2ram on patched kernel (I did>> not try s2ram earlier, my problem was (un)plugging HDMI - some ACPI>> code probably).>>>> Corruption output is quite huge, I attached it to bug report:>> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11237>> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=17526>> Not quite the output we were expecting! I've not got around to trying> it yet, so beware, but I think Jeremy's patch needs the following on top.> Or you may prefer to wait until one of us reports that it is now working> as intended.>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:17:16.000000000 +0100> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:19:24.000000000 +0100> @@ -636,11 +636,12 @@ void check_for_bios_corruption(void)> unsigned long *addr = __va(scan_areas[i].addr);> unsigned long size = scan_areas[i].size;>> - for(; size; addr++, size--) {> + for(; size; addr++, size -= sizeof(unsigned long)) {> if (!*addr)> continue;> printk(KERN_ERR "Corrupted low memory at %p (%lx phys) = %08lx\n",> addr, __pa(addr), *addr);> + *addr = 0;> corruption = 1;> }> }
I tried your patch anyway (after applying Jeremy's patch of course)and it doesn't seem to work. The only output is:scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruptionafter using s2ram. I do not get anyCorrupted low memory at* -- Rafał Miłecki���{.n�+�������+%�����ݶ��w��{.n�+����{��G�����{ay�ʇڙ�,j��f���h��������z_�(�階�ݢj"���m������G������?����&���~��iO��z��v�^�m����������?�I�
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2008/8/29 Hugh Dickins <[email protected]>:
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Out of current discussion I tried using s2ram on patched kernel (I did not try s2ram earlier, my problem was (un)plugging HDMI - some ACPI code probably).
Corruption output is quite huge, I attached it to bug report:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11237
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=17526Not quite the output we were expecting! I've not got around to trying it yet, so beware, but I think Jeremy's patch needs the following on top. Or you may prefer to wait until one of us reports that it is now working as intended.
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:19:24.000000000 +0100 renamed from arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:17:16.000000000 +0100 +2
-1@@ -636,11 +636,12 @@ void check_for_bios_corruption(void) unsigned long *addr = __va(scan_areas[i].addr); unsigned long size = scan_areas[i].size; - for(; size; addr++, size--) { + for(; size; addr++, size -= sizeof(unsigned long)) { if (!*addr) continue; printk(KERN_ERR "Corrupted low memory at %p (%lx phys) = %08lx\n", addr, __pa(addr), *addr); + *addr = 0; corruption = 1; }
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:19:24.000000000 +0100 void check_for_bios_corruption(void) · line 647
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:19:24.000000000 +0100 renamed from arch/x86/kernel/setup.c 2008-08-29 11:17:16.000000000 +0100 +0
-0}I tried your patch anyway (after applying Jeremy's patch of course) and it doesn't seem to work. The only output is:
scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption
after using s2ram. I do not get any
Corrupted low memory at*
It seemed to work for me. Did you remember to plug HDMI to trigger the corruption before you used s2ram?
[ 71.663828] Back to C! [ 71.663828] Corrupted low memory at ffff8800000083e8 (83e8 phys) = 803c85370cfc0000 [ 71.663828] Corrupted low memory at ffff8800000083f0 (83f0 phys) = 00003000 [ 71.663828] Pid: 7335, comm: pm-suspend Not tainted 2.6.27-rc4-00216-ge1c9c9d-dirty #152 [ 71.663828] [ 71.663828] Call Trace: [ 71.663828] [<ffffffff8020fdd5>] check_for_bios_corruption+0xb5/0xd0 [ 71.663828] [<ffffffff803a3e1a>] pm_dev_dbg+0x2a/0xa0 [ 71.663828] [<ffffffff803a49c2>] dpm_power_up+0x32/0xf0
Alan
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Quoted 7 lines · Rafał Miłecki
I tried your patch anyway (after applying Jeremy's patch of course) and it doesn't seem to work. The only output is:
scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption
after using s2ram. I do not get any
Corrupted low memory at*It seemed to work for me. Did you remember to plug HDMI to trigger the corruption before you used s2ram?
I hope that's what got missed.
Here's my version of Jeremy's patch, that I've now tested on my machines, as x86_32 and as x86_64. It addresses none of the points Alan Cox made, and it stays silent for me, even after suspend+resume, unless I actually introduce corruption myself. Omits Jeremy's check in fault.c, but does a check every minute, so should soon detect Rafał's HDMI corruption without any need to suspend+resume.
Hugh
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +5 -0
@@ -360,6 +360,11 @@ and is between 256 and 4096 characters. Format: <io>,<irq>,<mode> See header of drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_ser_hdx.c. + bios_corruption_check=0/1 [X86] + Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the first 64k of memory + when doing things like suspend/resume. Setting this + option will scan the memory looking for corruption. + boot_delay= Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot. Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to no delay (0).
arch/x86/Kconfig +3 -0
@@ -201,6 +201,9 @@ config X86_TRAMPOLINE depends on X86_SMP || (X86_VOYAGER && SMP) || (64BIT && ACPI_SLEEP) default y +config X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION + def_bool y + config KTIME_SCALAR def_bool X86_32 source "init/Kconfig"
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +104 -0
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arch/x86/mm/init_32.c +2 -0
@@ -907,6 +907,8 @@ void __init mem_init(void)int codesize, reservedpages, datasize, initsize;int tmp; +start_periodic_check_for_corruption (); +#ifdef CONFIG_FLATMEM BUG_ON (!mem_map);#endif
arch/x86/mm/init_64.c +2 -0
@@ -769,6 +769,8 @@ void __init mem_init(void) {long codesize, reservedpages, datasize, initsize; +start_periodic_check_for_corruption (); +pci_iommu_alloc ();/* clear_bss() already clear the empty_zero_page */
drivers/base/power/main.c +1 -0
@@ -254,6 +254,7 @@ static char *pm_verb(int event)static void pm_dev_dbg (struct device *dev,pm_message_t state,char *info) { +check_for_bios_corruption ();dev_dbg (dev,"%s%s%s\n" , info,pm_verb (state.event), ((state.event &PM_EVENT_SLEEP ) &&device_may_wakeup (dev)) ?", may wakeup" :"" );
include/linux/kernel.h +16 -0
@@ -240,6 +240,22 @@ extern const char *print_tainted(void);extern void add_taint (unsigned );extern int root_mountflags; +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +/* +* This is obviously not a great place for this, but we want to be +* able to scatter it around anywhere in the kernel. +*/ +void check_for_bios_corruption (void ); +void start_periodic_check_for_corruption (void ); +#else +static inline void check_for_bios_corruption (void ) +{ +} +static inline void start_periodic_check_for_corruption (void ) +{ +} +#endif +/* Values used for system_state */ extern enum system_states { SYSTEM_BOOTING,
2008/8/29 Hugh Dickins <[email protected]>:> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Alan Jenkins wrote:>> Rafał Miłecki wrote:>> >>> > I tried your patch anyway (after applying Jeremy's patch of course)>> > and it doesn't seem to work. The only output is:>> > scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption>> > after using s2ram. I do not get any>> > Corrupted low memory at*>> >>> It seemed to work for me. Did you remember to plug HDMI to trigger the>> corruption before you used s2ram?>> I hope that's what got missed. Ah, stupid mistake, sorry! Indeed, using HDMI and s2ram later works fine:
Corrupted low memory at ffff88000000be98 (be98 phys) = b02a000400000000 [<ffffffff8020fc9c>] check_for_bios_corruption+0x94/0xa0
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2008/8/29 Hugh Dickins <[email protected]>:> Here's my version of Jeremy's patch, that I've now tested on my machines,> as x86_32 and as x86_64. It addresses none of the points Alan Cox made,> and it stays silent for me, even after suspend+resume, unless I actually> introduce corruption myself. Omits Jeremy's check in fault.c, but does> a check every minute, so should soon detect Rafał's HDMI corruption> without any need to suspend+resume. Your periodic test works fine:
Corrupted low memory at ffff88000000be9c (be9c phys) = b02a0004 <IRQ> [<ffffffff8020fc9b>] check_for_bios_corruption+0x93/0x9f [<ffffffff8020fca7>] ? periodic_check_for_corruption+0x0/0x25 [<ffffffff8020fcb0>] periodic_check_for_corruption+0x9/0x25
By the way I confirmed this bug on Sony Vaio FW11M (my one is FW11S).Probably more machines from FW11* are affected.
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2008/8/29 Rafał Miłecki <[email protected]>:> 2008/8/29 Hugh Dickins <[email protected]>:>> Here's my version of Jeremy's patch, that I've now tested on my machines,>> as x86_32 and as x86_64. It addresses none of the points Alan Cox made,>> and it stays silent for me, even after suspend+resume, unless I actually>> introduce corruption myself. Omits Jeremy's check in fault.c, but does>> a check every minute, so should soon detect Rafał's HDMI corruption>> without any need to suspend+resume.>> Your periodic test works fine:>> Corrupted low memory at ffff88000000be9c (be9c phys) = b02a0004> <IRQ> [<ffffffff8020fc9b>] check_for_bios_corruption+0x93/0x9f> [<ffffffff8020fca7>] ? periodic_check_for_corruption+0x0/0x25> [<ffffffff8020fcb0>] periodic_check_for_corruption+0x9/0x25>> By the way I confirmed this bug on Sony Vaio FW11M (my one is FW11S).> Probably more machines from FW11* are affected. If this patch is known to work fine for Sony Vaio FW* and Alan'smachine, could it go mainline somehow?
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2008/8/29 Rafał Miłecki <[email protected]>:
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Here's my version of Jeremy's patch, that I've now tested on my machines, as
x86_32and asx86_64. It addresses none of the points Alan Cox made, and it stays silent for me, even after suspend+resume, unless I actually introduce corruption myself. Omits Jeremy's check infault.c, but does a check every minute, so should soon detect Rafał's HDMI corruption without any need to suspend+resume.Your periodic test works fine:
Corrupted low memory at
ffff88000000be9c(be9c phys) =b02a0004<IRQ> [<ffffffff8020fc9b>] check_for_bios_corruption+0x93/0x9f [<ffffffff8020fca7>] ? periodic_check_for_corruption+0x0/0x25 [<ffffffff8020fcb0>] periodic_check_for_corruption+0x9/0x25
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By the way I confirmed this bug on Sony Vaio FW11M (my one is FW11S). Probably more machines from FW11* are affected.
If this patch is known to work fine for Sony Vaio FW* and Alan's machine, could it go mainline somehow?
Well.
Thanks for the prod, and I'm certainly remiss for not following up sooner. But I'm really not at all keen on such a patch going into mainline myself.
It's an interesting experiment, and I'd be happy to see such a patch (adjusted to make sure output goes to kerneloops.org) spending a little while in Fedora Rawhide (who'd be the right contact for that?).
But so far as mainline goes, I share Alan Cox's opinion that we should not be chopping pages out of every x86 user's memory, just because a couple of machines with faulty BIOSes have been observed.
Particularly now it's evident that the 64kB "limit" is no more than a reflection of where the directmap pagetable changes have caught such corruption.
If lots more such corruptions are reported, of course I would change my position; but those bad directmap PMD crashes are themselves quite recognizable now we know to look out for them.
I would prefer you both to use the minimal memmap= solutions for now; but others may disagree.
Hugh
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Well.
Thanks for the prod, and I'm certainly remiss for not following up sooner. But I'm really not at all keen on such a patch going into mainline myself.
I have my original patch with your changes as a followup patch sitting in my queue. I was planning on sending it in the next day or so. I was planning on adding the memory size parameter too.
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It's an interesting experiment, and I'd be happy to see such a patch (adjusted to make sure output goes to kerneloops.org) spending a little while in Fedora Rawhide (who'd be the right contact for that?).
Dave Jones? He used to do it, at least. I guess a WARN_ON() would get picked up by kerneloops.
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But so far as mainline goes, I share Alan Cox's opinion that we should not be chopping pages out of every x86 user's memory, just because a couple of machines with faulty BIOSes have been observed.
I think that's a worthwhile cost for -rc. We can fix it up (ie, make it a real config option, defaulting off) for release once we're happy that we understand the scope of the problem.
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Particularly now it's evident that the 64kB "limit" is no more than a reflection of where the directmap pagetable changes have caught such corruption.
We should definitely make the kernel parameter set the banned memory size so we can experiment with different cutoffs.
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If lots more such corruptions are reported, of course I would change my position; but those bad directmap PMD crashes are themselves quite recognizable now we know to look out for them.
I would prefer you both to use the minimal memmap= solutions for now; but others may disagree.
The fact that we're seeing this problem in two completely different systems with different BIOSes and everything else makes me worried that this is quite widespread. It's only the persistence and diligence of our bug reporters that we managed to work out that they're the same problem. How many other people are getting strange crashes and haven't managed to correlate it any particular BIOS interaction? Or just happen to be corrupting memory we don't care about right now, but is only a small code change or link order change away from disaster?
J
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I would prefer you both to use the minimal memmap= solutions for now; but others may disagree.
The fact that we're seeing this problem in two completely different systems with different BIOSes and everything else makes me worried that this is quite widespread. It's only the persistence and diligence of our bug reporters that we managed to work out that they're the same problem. How many other people are getting strange crashes and haven't managed to correlate it any particular BIOS interaction? Or just happen to be corrupting memory we don't care about right now, but is only a small code change or link order change away from disaster?
please put this all behind a .config debug option that distros can turn on/off. Also, when it's enabled in the .config, there should be another .config option that marks it disabled by default but it can be enabled via a boot parameter.
Distro debug kernels will most likely enable the .config - even release kernels might enable it it, with default off - users can enable the boot switch if they suspect something, without having to build a new kernel.
Ingo
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Not quite the output we were expecting! I've not got around to trying it yet, so beware, but I think Jeremy's patch needs the following on top. Or you may prefer to wait until one of us reports that it is now working as intended.
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c void check_for_bios_corruption(void) · line 640
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +1
-1@@ -636,11 +636,12 @@ void check_for_bios_corruption(void)unsigned long *addr =__va (scan_areas[i].addr);unsigned long size = scan_areas[i].size; -for (; size; addr++, size--) { +for (; size; addr++, size -=sizeof (unsigned long )) {
Oops, yes.
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c void check_for_bios_corruption(void)
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-0if (!*addr)continue ;printk (KERN_ERR "Corrupted low memory at %p (%lx phys) = %08lx\n" , addr,__pa (addr), *addr); + *addr =0 ;
Good idea.
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c
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-0corruption =1 ;arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +0
-0} }
J
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- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
You ought to pick different values on different runs
0x00,0xFF,0xAA,0x55etc...
Yes, that wouldn't be a bad idea. The corruption we've seen so far is 0->non 0, but we haven't looked for zeroing.
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Yeah, OK, but I think it should default to ON for now. The problem is that we had two very different systems (Sony Vaio and Intel desktop)
So a zillion people should lose a chunk of RAM because of what is probably an obscure bug in a single version of a piece of SMM code on two systems total ?
Well, we just don't know. We have two systems which started reporting problems when I made a small change to how the initial pagetables are allocated. Before that they appeared to work fine, though in reality it was just some other part of the address space being corrupted. Who knows how many systems are out there "working fine", except that some obscure address in the user address space now allows you to write into kernel memory?
The two systems are *completely different*. One has a Phoenix BIOS, the other is AMI. One is a Sony Vaio, the other is an OEM Intel desktop. One corrupts memory on unplugging a HDMI cable, the other corrupts on suspend/resume. I don't think this is reassuring, or indicates the problem has limited scope.
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That appears to be totally out of proportion - plus the defaults are *irrelevant* for mass user coverage. If you want large scale coverage ask the Fedora, OpenSuSE and Ubuntu people to turn it on for a testing kernel release and report back.
The idea is to leave it on by default for a while - maybe a couple of -rc releases - and see what turns up. We can turn it off for a release kernel if people really object, though I'd hope something like Fedora Rawhide would leave it on.
J
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]> wrote:
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Yeah, OK, but I think it should default to ON for now. The problem is that we had two very different systems (Sony Vaio and Intel desktop) exhibit the same problem in two different ways. These systems worked
This is very interresting. I have a gigabyte X48 board, and everything works perfect, however, in memtest86+ i get thousands of errors in the range 0-0.9mb. I am certain my ram is fine, i've tried it in other computers, and reversed. I've run dozens of stress tests within my booted linux, no trouble, also the userspace memtester (allthough im aware it wont actually ever get to grab offending addresses).
Any thoughts?
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fine until we slightly changed the way that pagetable memory was allocated. We just don't know how many other systems are doing this kind of subtle corruption of low memory.
J
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Quoted 13 lines · Kasper Sandberg
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]> wrote:
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Yeah, OK, but I think it should default to ON for now. The problem is that we had two very different systems (Sony Vaio and Intel desktop) exhibit the same problem in two different ways. These systems worked
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This is very interresting. I have a gigabyte X48 board, and everything works perfect, however, in memtest86+ i get thousands of errors in the range 0-0.9mb. I am certain my ram is fine, i've tried it in other computers, and reversed. I've run dozens of stress tests within my booted linux, no trouble, also the userspace memtester (allthough im aware it wont actually ever get to grab offending addresses).
Any thoughts?
I would expect you'd get crashes if you had massive corruption in that area. By default it's being used for the kernel pagetables, so stomping on them will cause problems. In the cases we've been looking at so far, it's only been a word or two being stomped.
The low 1Mbyte is used as general memory, so corruption over the whole area will have widespread effects.
But try this patch (Hugh's version) and see what happens.
J
2008/8/28 Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>:> Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k. This> patch does two things:> - Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to> prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things> like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.> - Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.> - Adds a function check_for_bios_corruption() which checks and reports on> memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the> x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.>> RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?>> [ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:> 1: corruption messages> 2: no crashes> Thanks -J> ]
I was trying my best to crash system with this patch applied and failed :)
Works great.
Just wonder if I should expect any printk fromcheck_for_bios_corruption? I do not see any:
zajec@sony:~> dmesg | grep -i corrscanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption
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2008/8/28 Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>:
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Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k. This patch does two things:
- Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
- Adds a functioncheck_for_bios_corruption()which checks and reports on memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.Quoted 7 lines
RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
[ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
1: corruption messages
2: no crashes
Thanks -J
]I was trying my best to crash system with this patch applied and failed :)
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Works great.
Just wonder if I should expect any printk from
check_for_bios_corruption? I do not see any:zajec@sony:~> dmesg | grep -i corr
scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption
that's _very_ weird.
maybe the BIOS expects _zeroes_ somewhere? Do you suddenly see crashes if you change this line in Jeremy's patch:
+ memset(__va(addr), 0, size);
to something like:
+ memset(__va(addr), 0x55, size);
If this does not tickle any messages either, then maybe the problem is in the identity of the entities we allocate in the first 64K. Is there a list of allocations that go there when Jeremy's patch is not applied?
but ... i think with an earlier patch you saw corruption, right? Far-fetched idea: maybe it's some CPU erratum during suspend/resume that corrupts pagetables if the pagetables are allocated in the first 64K of RAM? In that case we should use a bootmem allocation for pagetables that give a minimum address of 64K.
Ingo
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2008/8/28 Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>:
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Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k. This patch does two things:
- Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
- Adds a functioncheck_for_bios_corruption()which checks and reports on memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.Quoted 8 lines
RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
[ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
1: corruption messages
2: no crashes
Thanks -J
]I was trying my best to crash system with this patch applied and failed :)
Works great.
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Just wonder if I should expect any printk from
check_for_bios_corruption? I do not see any:zajec@sony:~> dmesg | grep -i corr
scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruptionthat's _very_ weird.
No, it's expected. Rafał only got corruption when plugging his HDMI cable, and I didn't put any corruption checks on that path (I'm not even sure what kernel code would get executed in that case). Hugh's original patch put a check in the hot path of the fault handler - and so it would get called regularly - but I put it in the kernel-bug path, which is fairly pointless given that we expect this patch to prevent the crashes.
It does, however, do the check in the pm state changes, so doing a suspend should make it print some of the corruption it found. Alan's case would be a better test for that though.
It does raise the question of where the good places to put the check are. It shouldn't be too hot, given that it's scanning ~64k of memory, but often enough to actually show something. I was thinking of putting some calls in the acpi code itself, but got, erm, discouraged.
Maybe hooking into a sysrq key would be useful (sysrq-m?).
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maybe the BIOS expects _zeroes_ somewhere? Do you suddenly see crashes if you change this line in Jeremy's patch:
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memset(__va(addr), 0, size);to something like:
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memset(__va(addr), 0x55, size);If this does not tickle any messages either, then maybe the problem is in the identity of the entities we allocate in the first 64K. Is there a list of allocations that go there when Jeremy's patch is not applied?
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but ... i think with an earlier patch you saw corruption, right? Far-fetched idea: maybe it's some CPU erratum during suspend/resume that corrupts pagetables if the pagetables are allocated in the first 64K of RAM? In that case we should use a bootmem allocation for pagetables that give a minimum address of 64K.
Rafał's corruption was definitely non-zero. I think the corruption is happening, but it's just not reported.
J
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Rafał's corruption was definitely non-zero. I think the corruption is happening, but it's just not reported.
i thought we did a check after coming back from resume? That would be a natural place to do the check. (the corruption is suspend/resume related after all, right?)
Ingo
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Rafał's corruption was definitely non-zero. I think the corruption is happening, but it's just not reported.
i thought we did a check after coming back from resume? That would be a natural place to do the check. (the corruption is suspend/resume related after all, right?)
No, in Rafał's case it happens when he unplugs an HDMI cable.
J
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I was trying my best to crash system with this patch applied and failed :)
Works great.
Good.
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Just wonder if I should expect any printk from
check_for_bios_corruption? I do not see any:zajec@sony:~> dmesg | grep -i corr
scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption
I just followed up in detail to Ingo, but I think it's because I didn't put any checks where you would hit them. If you suspend/resume it should print something.
J
Thanks for taking this on, Jeremy: I had too many doubts to do so.
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Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k.
hpa introduced the 64k idea, and we've all been repeating it; but I've not heard the reasoning behind it. Is it a fundamental addressing limitation within the BIOS memory model? Or a case that Windows treats the bottom 64k as scratch, so BIOS testers won't notice if they corrupt it?
The two instances of corruption we've been studying have indeed been below 64k (one in page 8 and one in page 11), but that's because they were both recognizable corruptions of direct map PMDs.
If there is not a very strong justification for that 64k limit, then I don't think this approach will be very useful, and we should simply continue to rely on analyzing corruption when it appears, and recommend memmap= as a way of avoiding it once analyzed. If there is a strong justification for it, please dispel my ignorance!
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This patch does two things:
- Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
- Adds a functioncheck_for_bios_corruption()which checks and reports on memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
I don't know: the easy answer would be just to do it once every minute. As the patch stands, we'll only learn more on machines going through suspend+resume (disk or ram). If the corruption avoidance works, then the fault case should never trigger.
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[ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
1: corruption messages
2: no crashes
Thanks -J
]Signed-off-by Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>Cc Alan Jenkins <[email protected]>Cc Hugh Dickens <[email protected]>
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Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>Cc Rafael J. Wysocki <[email protected]>Cc Rafał Miłecki <[email protected]>Cc H. Peter Anvin <[email protected]>--- Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 ++ arch/x86/Kconfig | 3 + arch/x86/kernel/setup.c | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/x86/mm/fault.c | 2 drivers/base/power/main.c | 1 include/linux/kernel.h | 12 ++++ 6 files changed, 109 insertions(+)===================================================================
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt line 366
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-0@@ -359,6 +359,11 @@ BayCom Serial Port AX.25 Modem (Half Duplex Mode) Format: <io>,<irq>,<mode> See header of drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_ser_hdx.c. + + bios_corruption_check=0/1 [X86] + Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the first 64k of memory + when doing things like suspend/resume. Setting this + option will scan the memory looking for corruption.
It's actually a bottom_of_memory corruption_check: it would pick up corruption there whether it's caused by the BIOS or not. The boot parameter description ought to refer to the config
option: ah, the config option is always on for x86, hmm.
If the 64k is in any doubt, maybe the corruption_check boot option should specify limiting address rather than just off/on.
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Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +0
-0boot_delay= Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot. Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to===================================================================
arch/x86/Kconfig +3
-0@@ -203,6 +203,9 @@ bool depends on X86_SMP || (X86_VOYAGER && SMP) || (64BIT && ACPI_SLEEP) default y + +config X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION + def_bool y
Always on? For the moment, perhaps. I'm very pleased to see you've set it on for x86_32 as well as for x86_64, I'd been wanting to ask what's been happening on 32-bit.
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arch/x86/Kconfig +0
-0config KTIME_SCALAR def_bool X86_32===================================================================
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +13
-0@@ -582,6 +582,88 @@struct x86_quirks *x86_quirks__initdata = &default_x86_quirks;/* +* Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the low 64k of memory during events +* like suspend/resume and unplugging an HDMI cable. Reserve all +* remaining free memory in that area and fill it with a distinct +* pattern. +*/ +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +#define MAX_SCAN_AREAS 8 +static struct e820entry scan_areas[MAX_SCAN_AREAS ]; +static int num_scan_areas; + +static void __init setup_bios_corruption_check (void ) +{ +u64 addr =PAGE_SIZE ;/* assume first page is reserved anyway */
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-0+ +while (addr <0x10000 && num_scan_areas <MAX_SCAN_AREAS ) { +u64 size; + addr =find_e820_area_size (addr, &size,PAGE_SIZE ); + +if (addr ==0 ) +break ; + +if ((addr + size) >0x10000 ) + size =0x10000 - addr;
Here (and the patch description) might be the right place to justify 64k.
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-0+ +if (size ==0 ) +break ; + +e820_update_range (addr, size,E820_RAM ,E820_RESERVED ); + scan_areas[num_scan_areas].addr = addr; + scan_areas[num_scan_areas].size = size; + num_scan_areas++; + +/* Assume we've already mapped this early memory */ +memset (__va (addr),0 , size); + + addr += size; + } + +printk (KERN_INFO "scanning %d areas for BIOS corruption\n" , + num_scan_areas); +update_e820 (); +} + +static int __read_mostly bios_corruption_check =1 ; +
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c line 639
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-0+void check_for_bios_corruption (void ) +{ +int i; +int corruption =0 ; + +if (!bios_corruption_check) +return ; + +for (i =0 ; i < num_scan_areas; i++) { +unsigned long *addr =__va (scan_areas[i].addr);
Small point, but since we're doing the same on 32-bit and 64-bit, I think it would be better to operate on unsigned ints, to get the same kind of printout in the two cases.
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c line 646
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-0+unsigned long size = scan_areas[i].size; + +for (; size; addr++, size--) { +if (!*addr) +continue ; +printk (KERN_ERR "Corrupted low memory at %p (%lx phys) = %08lx\n" , + addr,__pa (addr), *addr);
Don't you need to reset *addr to 0 here, to avoid noise ever after?
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c line 652
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-0+ corruption =1 ; + } + } + +if (corruption) +dump_stack ();
The purpose of the dump_stack being to insert a recognizable and irritating spew into the log, prompting people to report these cases:
the stacktrace itself is unlikely to be relevant. Is a simple dump_stack enough to get it reported to kerneloops.org, or is more tweaking necessary?
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-0+} + +static int set_bios_corruption_check (char *arg) +{ +char *end; + + bios_corruption_check =simple_strtol (arg, &end,10 ); + +return (*end ==0 ) ?0 : -EINVAL ; +} +early_param ("bios_corruption_check" , set_bios_corruption_check); +#endif + +/* * Determine if we were loaded by an EFI loader. If so, then we have also been * passed the efi memmap, systab, etc., so we should use these data structures * for initialization. Note, the efi init code path is determined by the @@ -766,6 +848,10 @@ max_low_pfn = max_pfn; high_memory = (void *)__va (max_pfn *PAGE_SIZE -1 ) +1 ; +#endif + +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +setup_bios_corruption_check ();#endif /* max_pfn_mapped is updated here */ ===================================================================
arch/x86/mm/fault.c +2
-0@@ -864,6 +864,8 @@* Oops. The kernel tried to access some bad page. We'll have to * terminate things with extreme prejudice. */ +check_for_bios_corruption (); +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_32 bust_spinlocks (1 );#else ===================================================================
drivers/base/power/main.c +1
-0@@ -254,6 +254,7 @@static void pm_dev_dbg (struct device *dev,pm_message_t state,char *info) { +check_for_bios_corruption ();dev_dbg (dev,"%s%s%s\n" , info,pm_verb (state.event), ((state.event &PM_EVENT_SLEEP ) &&device_may_wakeup (dev)) ?", may wakeup" :"" );===================================================================
include/linux/kernel.h +5
-0@@ -246,6 +246,18 @@extern void add_taint (unsigned );extern int root_mountflags; +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +/* +* This is obviously not a great place for this, but we want to be +* able to scatter it around anywhere in the kernel. +*/
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include/linux/kernel.h +7
-0+void check_for_bios_corruption (void ); +#else +static inline void check_for_bios_corruption (void ) +{ +} +#endif +/* Values used for system_state */ extern enum system_states { SYSTEM_BOOTING,
I'll give this or something like it a try on my machines later on, 32 and 64, to see if anything comes up which hasn't caused any visible problem before (but will either need to do suspend+resume on machines not tried before, or add in the periodic test).
I do wonder whether for 2.6.27 we should simply go back to the previous kernel pagetable layout, so there's no regression while we investigate the issue further. But I don't recall how well- defined that layout was, and whether your perturbation was just in that one patch or not.
Is this the right moment for me to mention again that I'm not sure your reuse of existing pagetables was quite right anyway: NX being excluded from level2_ident_pgt, but wanted in the direct map?
Hugh
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Thanks for taking this on, Jeremy: I had too many doubts to do so.
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Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k.
hpa introduced the 64k idea, and we've all been repeating it; but I've not heard the reasoning behind it. Is it a fundamental addressing limitation within the BIOS memory model? Or a case that Windows treats the bottom 64k as scratch, so BIOS testers won't notice if they corrupt it?
The two instances of corruption we've been studying have indeed been below 64k (one in page 8 and one in page 11), but that's because they were both recognizable corruptions of direct map PMDs.
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If there is not a very strong justification for that 64k limit, then I don't think this approach will be very useful, and we should simply continue to rely on analyzing corruption when it appears, and recommend memmap= as a way of avoiding it once analyzed. If there is a strong justification for it, please dispel my ignorance!
I don't think there's been a strong rationale. 64k is significant because it's the size of an old 16-bit real-mode segment, and perhaps the bios code in question is 16-bit code.
But I think it's really a question of limiting the scope of the problem:
yes, the BIOS could corrupt any memory anywhere, but what can we possibly do about that? Such a machine is as useless as a system with intermittent faulty memory hardware.
We have to assume that it is basically possible to use the machine, and that presumably whatever bug the BIOS has isn't making Windows crash. Windows might be avoiding the low 64k for some ancient-history DOS reason, or perhaps it's just full of boot code which isn't used again?
It would be easy to add another kernel parameter to select how much memory to reserve for corruption checking. 64k? 1M?
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This patch does two things:
- Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel. Things like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
- Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
- Adds a functioncheck_for_bios_corruption()which checks and reports on memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero. Currently it's called in the x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.
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RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
I don't know: the easy answer would be just to do it once every minute. As the patch stands, we'll only learn more on machines going through suspend+resume (disk or ram). If the corruption avoidance works, then the fault case should never trigger.
Right. Once a minute sounds good, though it might be a bit too long to correlate the corruption to a specific event.
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[ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
1: corruption messages
2: no crashes
Thanks -J
]Signed-off-by Jeremy Fitzhardinge <[email protected]>Cc Alan Jenkins <[email protected]>Cc Hugh Dickens <[email protected]>Dickins
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Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>Cc Rafael J. Wysocki <[email protected]>Cc Rafał Miłecki <[email protected]>Cc H. Peter Anvin <[email protected]>--- Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 ++ arch/x86/Kconfig | 3 + arch/x86/kernel/setup.c | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/x86/mm/fault.c | 2 drivers/base/power/main.c | 1 include/linux/kernel.h | 12 ++++ 6 files changed, 109 insertions(+)===================================================================
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +3
-0@@ -359,6 +359,11 @@ BayCom Serial Port AX.25 Modem (Half Duplex Mode) Format: <io>,<irq>,<mode> See header of drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_ser_hdx.c. + + bios_corruption_check=0/1 [X86] + Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the first 64k of memory
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Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt line 367
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Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +2
-0+ when doing things like suspend/resume. Setting this + option will scan the memory looking for corruption.It's actually a
bottom_of_memorycorruption_check: it would pick up corruption there whether it's caused by the BIOS or not. The boot parameter description ought to refer to the config
option: ah, the config option is always on for x86, hmm.
Yeah, I didn't bother to make it switchable yet.
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If the 64k is in any doubt, maybe the
corruption_checkboot option should specify limiting address rather than just off/on.
Yes, that sounds good. Also, it might be worth being able to set the rate. Doing it once every 10 seconds wouldn't add too much overhead, and once a second would be reasonable if you think there's an actual problem.
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Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt +0
-0boot_delay= Milliseconds to delay each printk during boot. Values larger than 10 seconds (10000) are changed to===================================================================
arch/x86/Kconfig +0
-0@@ -203,6 +203,9 @@ bool depends on X86_SMP || (X86_VOYAGER && SMP) || (64BIT && ACPI_SLEEP) default y
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arch/x86/Kconfig line 209
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-0+ +config X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION + def_bool yAlways on? For the moment, perhaps. I'm very pleased to see you've set it on for
x86_32as well as forx86_64, I'd been wanting to ask what's been happening on 32-bit.
I couldn't see any reason the problem would be restricted to 64-bit. It could just be lurking in a rarely used corner of the address space.
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arch/x86/Kconfig +0
-0config KTIME_SCALAR def_bool X86_32===================================================================
arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +18
-0@@ -582,6 +582,88 @@struct x86_quirks *x86_quirks__initdata = &default_x86_quirks;/* +* Some BIOSes seem to corrupt the low 64k of memory during events +* like suspend/resume and unplugging an HDMI cable. Reserve all +* remaining free memory in that area and fill it with a distinct +* pattern. +*/ +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +#define MAX_SCAN_AREAS 8 +static struct e820entry scan_areas[MAX_SCAN_AREAS ]; +static int num_scan_areas; + +static void __init setup_bios_corruption_check (void ) +{ +u64 addr =PAGE_SIZE ;/* assume first page is reserved anyway */ + +while (addr <0x10000 && num_scan_areas <MAX_SCAN_AREAS ) { +u64 size; + addr =find_e820_area_size (addr, &size,PAGE_SIZE ); +
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +5
-0+if (addr ==0 ) +break ; + +if ((addr + size) >0x10000 ) + size =0x10000 - addr;Here (and the patch description) might be the right place to justify 64k.
I'm inclined to make it variable.
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-0+ +if (size ==0 ) +break ; + +e820_update_range (addr, size,E820_RAM ,E820_RESERVED ); + scan_areas[num_scan_areas].addr = addr; + scan_areas[num_scan_areas].size = size; + num_scan_areas++; + +/* Assume we've already mapped this early memory */ +memset (__va (addr),0 , size); + + addr += size; + } + +printk (KERN_INFO "scanning %d areas for BIOS corruption\n" , + num_scan_areas); +update_e820 (); +} + +static int __read_mostly bios_corruption_check =1 ; + +void check_for_bios_corruption (void ) +{ +int i; +int corruption =0 ; + +if (!bios_corruption_check) +return ;
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +3
-0+ +for (i =0 ; i < num_scan_areas; i++) { +unsigned long *addr =__va (scan_areas[i].addr);Small point, but since we're doing the same on 32-bit and 64-bit, I think it would be better to operate on unsigned ints, to get the same kind of printout in the two cases.
OK.
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +7
-0+unsigned long size = scan_areas[i].size; + +for (; size; addr++, size--) { +if (!*addr) +continue ; +printk (KERN_ERR "Corrupted low memory at %p (%lx phys) = %08lx\n" , + addr,__pa (addr), *addr);Don't you need to reset *addr to 0 here, to avoid noise ever after?
Yes.
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +5
-0+ corruption =1 ; + } + } + +if (corruption)
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c line 652
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +1
-0+dump_stack ();The purpose of the
dump_stackbeing to insert a recognizable and irritating spew into the log, prompting people to report these cases:
the stacktrace itself is unlikely to be relevant. Is a simpledump_stackenough to get it reported to kerneloops.org, or is more tweaking necessary?
Well, no, I was thinking about it would give a clue about what went wrong. If you see the spew out of the pm code, then it was likely suspend/resume. If it's out of the timer function then it won't tell you much other than "something else". If we put it elsewhere (even if temporarily for detecting other suspected corruption symptoms), then it will be useful for distinguishing those.
An alternative would be to pass a flag to say whether a backtrace would likely be useful. Or wrap it in a macro to provide file/line info.
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arch/x86/kernel/setup.c +14
-0+} + +static int set_bios_corruption_check (char *arg) +{ +char *end; + + bios_corruption_check =simple_strtol (arg, &end,10 ); + +return (*end ==0 ) ?0 : -EINVAL ; +} +early_param ("bios_corruption_check" , set_bios_corruption_check); +#endif + +/* * Determine if we were loaded by an EFI loader. If so, then we have also been
* passed the efi memmap, systab, etc., so we should use these data structures
* for initialization. Note, the efi init code path is determined by thearch/x86/kernel/setup.c +4
-0@@ -766,6 +848,10 @@ max_low_pfn = max_pfn; high_memory = (void *)__va (max_pfn *PAGE_SIZE -1 ) +1 ; +#endif + +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +setup_bios_corruption_check ();#endif /* max_pfn_mapped is updated here */ ===================================================================
arch/x86/mm/fault.c +2
-0@@ -864,6 +864,8 @@* Oops. The kernel tried to access some bad page. We'll have to * terminate things with extreme prejudice. */ +check_for_bios_corruption (); +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_32 bust_spinlocks (1 );#else ===================================================================
drivers/base/power/main.c +1
-0@@ -254,6 +254,7 @@static void pm_dev_dbg (struct device *dev,pm_message_t state,char *info) { +check_for_bios_corruption ();dev_dbg (dev,"%s%s%s\n" , info,pm_verb (state.event), ((state.event &PM_EVENT_SLEEP ) &&device_may_wakeup (dev)) ?", may wakeup" :"" );===================================================================
include/linux/kernel.h +5
-0@@ -246,6 +246,18 @@extern void add_taint (unsigned );extern int root_mountflags; +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION +/* +* This is obviously not a great place for this, but we want to be +* able to scatter it around anywhere in the kernel. +*/ include/linux/kernel.h line 263
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include/linux/kernel.h +7
-0+void check_for_bios_corruption (void ); +#else +static inline void check_for_bios_corruption (void ) +{ +} +#endif +/* Values used for system_state */ extern enum system_states { SYSTEM_BOOTING,I'll give this or something like it a try on my machines later on, 32 and 64, to see if anything comes up which hasn't caused any visible problem before (but will either need to do suspend+resume on machines not tried before, or add in the periodic test).
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I do wonder whether for 2.6.27 we should simply go back to the previous kernel pagetable layout, so there's no regression while we investigate the issue further. But I don't recall how well- defined that layout was, and whether your perturbation was just in that one patch or not.
That would break Xen. I needed to do the pagetable reuse to make sure that the Xen domain-builder pagetables are preserved.
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Is this the right moment for me to mention again that I'm not sure your reuse of existing pagetables was quite right anyway: NX being excluded from
level2_ident_pgt, but wanted in the direct map?
We could add NX. What's the behaviour of setting NX in a non-NX-supporting CPU? I don't think it would trigger a "reserved bit" exception (the other high pte flags don't). Or failing that, we could mask out NX once we've worked out the CPU doesn't support it (at the same time it relocates the pagetables to the kernel's load-time address).
J
H. Peter Anvin
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It would be easy to add another kernel parameter to select how much memory to reserve for corruption checking. 64k? 1M?
Or just make the boot_corruption_check parameter take a range instead of a boolean.
-hpa
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Is this the right moment for me to mention again that I'm not sure your reuse of existing pagetables was quite right anyway: NX being excluded from
level2_ident_pgt, but wanted in the direct map?We could add NX. What's the behaviour of setting NX in a non-NX-supporting CPU? I don't think it would trigger a "reserved bit" exception (the other high pte flags don't). Or failing that, we could mask out NX once we've worked out the CPU doesn't support it (at the same time it relocates the pagetables to the kernel's load-time address).
I've no experience of what happens if NX is set to a non-NX-supporting CPU, so can't advise on that at all. But I think you're looking at it the wrong way round - or else I am.
Here's the declaration and comment on level2_ident_pgt in head_64.S:
NEXT_PAGE(level2_ident_pgt)
/* Since I easily can, map the first 1G. * Don't set NX because code runs from these pages. */ PMDS(0, __PAGE_KERNEL_LARGE_EXEC, PTRS_PER_PMD)
(The "Since I easily can" comment is there because it used to map only a subset needed for early kernel startup, not the whole 1G.)
So it's very intentionally leaving NX out there. I believe the level2_ident_pgt page appears twice or more in the pagetable layout, used to map two or more areas of virtual address space - once to provide the direct map at ffff880000000000 and once to provide the kernel image virtual mapping at ffffffff80200000.
I think we don't want NX on Linux kernel text ;-?
Before your 2.6.27-rc changes, init_memory_mapping subsequently replaced the direct map usage by a separately constructed pagetable, similar to it but with NX set throughout. After your 2.6.27-rc changes, level2_ident_pgt is found there already so left untouched - leaving NX out of that first 1G of the direct map forever (when CPA splits it up, the smaller pages inherit the lack of NX too).
I noticed when changing /proc/meminfo to show DirectMap in kB, and tried to fix it, but only gave myself a non-booting system (I probably shrank my direct map to 0 while implicitly using it). And at that stage I didn't realize at all that it was a recent regression arising from your mods.
I'm reluctant to delve in there again at present, and unsure what the right fix should be: perhaps the code which checks if an entry is already there, should check if it has the desired flags?
Hugh
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Is this the right moment for me to mention again that I'm not sure your reuse of existing pagetables was quite right anyway: NX being excluded from
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We could add NX. What's the behaviour of setting NX in a non-NX-supporting CPU? I don't think it would trigger a "reserved bit" exception (the other high pte flags don't). Or failing that, we could mask out NX once we've worked out the CPU doesn't support it (at the same time it relocates the pagetables to the kernel's load-time address).
I've no experience of what happens if NX is set to a non-NX-supporting CPU, so can't advise on that at all. But I think you're looking at it the wrong way round - or else I am.
Here's the declaration and comment on
level2_ident_pgtinhead_64.S:
NEXT_PAGE(level2_ident_pgt)/* Since I easily can, map the first 1G. * Don't set NX because code runs from these pages. */ PMDS(0, __PAGE_KERNEL_LARGE_EXEC, PTRS_PER_PMD)
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(The "Since I easily can" comment is there because it used to map only a subset needed for early kernel startup, not the whole 1G.)
So it's very intentionally leaving NX out there. I believe the
level2_ident_pgtpage appears twice or more in the pagetable layout, used to map two or more areas of virtual address space - once to provide the direct map atffff880000000000and once to provide the kernel image virtual mapping atffffffff80200000.
Hm, yes, I see what you mean.
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I think we don't want NX on Linux kernel text ;-?
Might be problematic.
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Before your 2.6.27-rc changes,
init_memory_mappingsubsequently replaced the direct map usage by a separately constructed pagetable, similar to it but with NX set throughout. After your 2.6.27-rc changes,level2_ident_pgtis found there already so left untouched - leaving NX out of that first 1G of the direct map forever (when CPA splits it up, the smaller pages inherit the lack of NX too).
Well, if we never want the direct map to be non-executable (which I think would be OK, since all the code is either core kernel or modules which are mapped elsewhere), then we can set NX on the level4 for the linear mapping which will make everything below non-executable.
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I'm reluctant to delve in there again at present, and unsure what the right fix should be: perhaps the code which checks if an entry is already there, should check if it has the desired flags?
Well, the specific reason I made these changes was to make sure that there was never more than one entry mapping any kernel page, so that you can update the page permissions on a kernel page with just one update. This is pretty much a requirement for Xen, and very convenient at other times. Native will use either L2 or L3 mappings for the kernel and linear space, and Xen uses L1 mappings, so if we break the aliasing at the L2 level I can still keep the L1s aliased, but it seems simpler to set NX on the linear mapping's L4.
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Well, if we never want the direct map to be non-executable (which I
One too many negatives?
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think would be OK, since all the code is either core kernel or modules which are mapped elsewhere),
I had thought so until just before replying.
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then we can set NX on the level4 for the
linear mapping which will make everything below non-executable.
That would be much the neatest answer: I hadn't realized that inheritance (perhaps I'm still living in early-i386 days, when IIRC there was a bug in inheriting WP from higher levels).
But then I stumbled across static_protections() in pageattr.c (takes both addr and pfn, latter seems weird), whose BIOS_BEGIN and BIOS_END seem to echo the ISA_START_ADDR and ISA_END_ADDR used by is_ISA_range() in ioremap.c.
And peering at the pagetables I've got here for that area of the direct map in 2.6.26 x86_64, yes, I'm missing NX from 0xc0000 to 0xfffff (presumably nothing tried to ioremap 0xa0000 to 0xbffff).
A simple answer might be to go the way you suggest, but remove the special casing from pageattr.c and ioremap.c; but I fear that will slow something down, or introduce further bugs.
Hugh
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Well, if we never want the direct map to be non-executable (which I
One too many negatives?
Yes. I over-corrected in my pre-send proofread.
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think would be OK, since all the code is either core kernel or modules which are mapped elsewhere),
I had thought so until just before replying.
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then we can set NX on the level4 for the
linear mapping which will make everything below non-executable.That would be much the neatest answer: I hadn't realized that inheritance (perhaps I'm still living in early-i386 days, when IIRC there was a bug in inheriting WP from higher levels).
In PAE mode the top-level doesn't let you set inheritable permissions flags. On i386 it only works on levels 2 and 1, but 64-bit fixes it to work on all levels.
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But then I stumbled across
static_protections()inpageattr.c(takes both addr and pfn, latter seems weird),
Well, it wants to set the mappings for some physical memory in the case of BIOS and RO data, but only affect the kernel mappings in a particular
virtual range (so the linear mapping of the kernel is still NX). (No
need for it to be inline though.)
But it does seem it wants the BIOS to be executable when you're using it for PCI space. A possible fix in that case is to create a separate executable mapping of BIOS space.
That said, PCI_GOBIOS is only used on 32-bit anyway, so it's moot (its only use is to define CONFIG_PCI_BIOS, and it depends on X86_32).
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A simple answer might be to go the way you suggest, but remove the special casing from
pageattr.candioremap.c; but I fear that will slow something down, or introduce further bugs.
It looks to me like it won't matter either way.
J
H. Peter Anvin
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hpa introduced the 64k idea, and we've all been repeating it; but I've not heard the reasoning behind it. Is it a fundamental addressing limitation within the BIOS memory model? Or a case that Windows treats the bottom 64k as scratch, so BIOS testers won't notice if they corrupt it?
The two instances of corruption we've been studying have indeed been below 64k (one in page 8 and one in page 11), but that's because they were both recognizable corruptions of direct map PMDs.
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If there is not a very strong justification for that 64k limit, then I don't think this approach will be very useful, and we should simply continue to rely on analyzing corruption when it appears, and recommend memmap= as a way of avoiding it once analyzed. If there is a strong justification for it, please dispel my ignorance!
The 64K number was empirical, of course. The bottom 64K is somewhat special, however, in that it is what you can address in real mode (as opposed to big real mode) with your segments parked at zero, so you end up with something approaching a flat real mode. Especially the first 32K (below 0x7c00) are frequently used by various BIOS items, but I believe the corruption observed was at 0x8000, so it's beyond even this first barrier.
Obviously, it's extremely hard to predict where BIOS vendors will have choosen to scribble, but the observations in this particular case seemed to finger this particular area.
-hpa
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reviewerQuoted 7 lines · Hugh Dickins
hpa introduced the 64k idea, and we've all been repeating it; but I've not heard the reasoning behind it. Is it a fundamental addressing limitation within the BIOS memory model? Or a case that Windows treats the bottom 64k as scratch, so BIOS testers won't notice if they corrupt it?
I should point out that I have seen one particular bug quite a few times poking around with boot loaders: the BIOS accesses memory at an otherwise valid address, but with the segment base set to either zero or 0x400 instead of whatever it should have been.
-hpa