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DISCUSSION Jean Delvare 3 participants 4 messages Oct 27, 2008 – Nov 5, 2008 3 messages not in the archive I2C subsystem host drivers

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Hi folks,

The i2c mailing list will be moving to another host this week. There are two reasons that motivated this decision:

* The address "[email protected]" is error-prone. It makes developers believe that i2c and lm-sensors are still strongly related, while
this is no longer the case. There are many subsystems using i2c (rtc,
video, media...) and hwmon is only one of these. We keep receiving
posts on the i2c list that should go to the lm-sensors list and posts
on the lm-sensors list which should go to the i2c list due to this
confusion. By moving the i2c list away from lm-sensors.org, I hope to
put an end to this confusion.

* There have been many technical problems with the i2c mailing list over the past few months: recipients stripped off the Cc list, names split in the To or Cc list, bad interaction with other mailing lists, temporary unavailability... By moving the list to another host, I hope that all these problems will be solved as well.

The new mailing list will be named linux-i2c (to make it clearer what exactly the list is about) and will be hosted on vger.kernel.org (which already hosts the linux-pci and linux-usb mailing lists amongst many others.) I invite all subscribers to the i2c list to subscribe to the
new list now. For this, all you have to do is send a mail to [email protected] with the following line in the mail body:

subscribe linux-i2c

And then follow the instructions.

In 48 hours (that is, on October, Wednesday 29th, at 13:00 UTC), the old i2c mailing list will be closed. All attempts to post to it will redirect the poster to the new linux-i2c mailing list. I'll see what facility mailman implements to make this as user-friendly and automatic as possible.

Thanks,

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Jean Delvare

_______________________________________________
i2c mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.lm-sensors.org/mailman/listinfo/i2c

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In 48 hours (that is, on October, Wednesday 29th, at 13:00 UTC), the old i2c mailing list will be closed. All attempts to post to it will redirect the poster to the new linux-i2c mailing list. I'll see what facility mailman implements to make this as user-friendly and automatic as possible.

Here we go. Hopefully I've configured mailman properly and everyone now attempting to post to this (old) i2c list should receive the following auto-reply:

*****
The i2c mailing list has moved to kernel.org. Please resend your message to:
[email protected]

Subscription information can be found at:
http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-i2c
*****

I will now try to get gmane and marc.info to archive the new linux-i2c list instead of the old i2c list.

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Jean Delvare

_______________________________________________
i2c mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.lm-sensors.org/mailman/listinfo/i2c

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Salut Jean,

Why do you have not exported the mailinlist members and imported into <vger.kernel.org>?

And of course, even <vger.kernel.org> use a rather old version of majordomo where noone can set it to "nomail" which I need for this email since I receive over 10000 spams and backscatters per day and do not realy like to get more messages in the box which I do not need since I am subscribed with a second NON-PUBLIC e-mail to get the messages without spam.

Do you know, whether <vger.kernel.org> can be upgraded to use majordomo version 2.x which would a very big benefit... and it works without any problems even with several 100000 subscribers.

Note: I am not able to subscribe with my NON-PUBLIC e-mail for an
unknown reason (I receive not even a confimation mail)

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

Am 2008-10-29 13:45:47, schrieb Jean Delvare:

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In 48 hours (that is, on October, Wednesday 29th, at 13:00 UTC), the old i2c mailing list will be closed. All attempts to post to it will redirect the poster to the new linux-i2c mailing list. I'll see what facility mailman implements to make this as user-friendly and automatic as possible.

Here we go. Hopefully I've configured mailman properly and everyone now attempting to post to this (old) i2c list should receive the following auto-reply:

*****
The i2c mailing list has moved to kernel.org. Please resend your message to:
[email protected]

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Subscription information can be found at:
http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-i2c
*****

I will now try to get gmane and marc.info to archive the new linux-i2c list instead of the old i2c list.

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Jean Delvare

_______________________________________________
i2c mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.lm-sensors.org/mailman/listinfo/i2c

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From: Michelle Konzack <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:00:40 +0100

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Why do you have not exported the mailinlist members and imported into <vger.kernel.org>?

Because that is against our policy for several reasons, but most importantly experience (10+ years) has shown us that if a user does not go through the subscription process on their own they will have troubling figuring out how to unsubscribe which angers them an eventually us postmasters have to undo the mess.

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Do you know, whether <vger.kernel.org> can be upgraded to use majordomo version 2.x which would a very big benefit... and it works without any problems even with several 100000 subscribers.

When you run a mail server you can decide how to run it or what versions of which software to use.

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Note: I am not able to subscribe with my NON-PUBLIC e-mail for an
unknown reason (I receive not even a confimation mail)

You cannot subscribe email address A from email address B, if that is what you are trying to do. We will not approve such requests.

You must subscribe exactly from the account you wish to add, using an empty email address field in the subscribe command.

If need be forge your From: email address field.

But if you're going to be this difficult about this facility that is provided free of charge to you (by telling us what version of which software to run, how the current configuration is inconvenient to you, etc.) you might as well save yourself a lot of pain and false expectations and just use some external archive to read the i2c list.

You can post here freely as we do not require subscriptions in order to make list postings, and there is no moderation so there is no latency involved in such non-member postings.