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XFS ignores all atime related mount options, noatime is always in effect, documentation misses this information

DISCUSSION Roland Eggner 2 participants 2 messages Dec 18, 2008 – Dec 19, 2008

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On my linux box I tried to achieve regular atime behaviour, tried mount with no atime related option at all, tried mount options atime, sync, osyncisosync, .. XFS on plain partitions, on loop devices .. I tried another kernel (sidux image with kernel 2.6.25-9) ..

My result:
It seems impossible to switch off "noatime" mount option.
atime updates happen only in core, never on disk unless coinciding with other inode modifications, regardless of specified mount options.

$  uname -a
Linux roland 2.6.23.12roland2 #2 Tue Apr 15 17:10:52 CEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
$  zgrep XFS /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_XFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_XFS_QUOTA is not set
CONFIG_XFS_SECURITY=y
CONFIG_XFS_POSIX_ACL=y
CONFIG_XFS_RT=y
# CONFIG_VXFS_FS is not set

In mailing list archive I found
http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2007-10/msg00168.html
It seems, that 3 years ago an unconditional noatime enforcement has been introduced.

(1) If this is true, please update documentation accordingly. Users, who need a filesystem with regular atime behaviour, will no more waste their time to try XFS, when in fact it is unusable for their particular requirements.

(2) If I missed a possibility to achieve regular atime behaviour, please document it in Documentation/filesystems/xfs.txt and in man 8 mount.

Thanks!

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Am Donnerstag 18 Dezember 2008 schrieb Roland Eggner:

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On my linux box I tried to achieve regular atime behaviour, tried mount with no atime related option at all, tried mount options atime, sync, osyncisosync, .. XFS on plain partitions, on loop devices .. I tried another kernel (sidux image with kernel 2.6.25-9) ..

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My result:
It seems impossible to switch off "noatime" mount option. atime updates happen only in core, never on disk unless coinciding with other inode modifications, regardless of specified mount options.

$  uname -a
Linux roland 2.6.23.12roland2 #2 Tue Apr 15 17:10:52 CEST 2008 i686
GNU/Linux

I can't reproduce this on 2.6.27.7:

martin@shambhala:~/Zeit> grep /home /proc/mounts
/dev/sda5 /home xfs rw,relatime,attr2,nobarrier,logbufs=8,logbsize=256k,noquota 0 0 martin@shambhala:~/Zeit> echo "hallo" >hallo.txt martin@shambhala:~/Zeit> ls -l --time=atime hallo.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 martin martin 6 19. Dez 13:56 hallo.txt martin@shambhala:~/Zeit> cat hallo.txt ; ls -l --time=atime hallo.txt hallo
-rw-r--r-- 1 martin martin 6 19. Dez 13:57 hallo.txt

How did you test it? A reproducable test case would be fine.

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$  zgrep XFS /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_XFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_XFS_QUOTA is not set
CONFIG_XFS_SECURITY=y
CONFIG_XFS_POSIX_ACL=y
CONFIG_XFS_RT=y
# CONFIG_VXFS_FS is not set

martin@shambhala:~> zgrep XFS /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_XFS_FS=y
CONFIG_XFS_QUOTA=y
CONFIG_XFS_POSIX_ACL=y
CONFIG_XFS_RT=y
# CONFIG_XFS_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_VXFS_FS is not set

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In mailing list archive I found
http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2007-10/msg00168.html
It seems, that 3 years ago an unconditional noatime enforcement has been introduced.

Did you look within the same mount or did you unmount and remount first? I remember there has been some issue with inode updates and unmounting, but I do not remember the details.

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(2) If I missed a possibility to achieve regular atime behaviour, please document it in Documentation/filesystems/xfs.txt and in man 8 mount.

Its either atime, relatime or noatime as mount option.

Ciao,

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