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x86: make save_stack_address() !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER friendly

PATCH In review Oleg Nesterov 3 participants 8 messages Jun 3, 2010 – Jun 9, 2010

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PATCH 1/2 x86: make save_stack_address() !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER friendly

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

Also, remove the unnecessary type-cast.

---

 arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c |    6 +++++-
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c renamed from arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c~SAVE_STACK_WO_FP +5 -1
@@ -26,8 +26,10 @@ static int save_stack_stack(void *data, 
 static void save_stack_address(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
 {
 	struct stack_trace *trace = data;
+#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
 	if (!reliable)
 		return;
+#endif
 	if (trace->skip > 0) {
 		trace->skip--;
 		return;
@@ -39,9 +41,11 @@ static void save_stack_address(void *dat
 static void
 save_stack_address_nosched(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
 {
-	struct stack_trace *trace = (struct stack_trace *)data;
+	struct stack_trace *trace = data;
+#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
 	if (!reliable)
 		return;
+#endif
 	if (in_sched_functions(addr))
 		return;
 	if (trace->skip > 0) {
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#1 lore raw
Quoted 4 lines · Oleg Nesterov

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

Quoted 8 lines

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

Also, remove the unnecessary type-cast.

#2 lore raw
In reply to Oleg Nesterov
Quoted 9 lines · Oleg Nesterov

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

would be nice if there was a compile time thing to detect if frame pointers are on ratehr than an ifdef.

you're now also changing the rules; until now, you would ALWAYS get a backtrace without noise.... now that's changing quite a bit. How are various tools (like perf and sysprof) going to cope with that?

Quoted 36 lines

Also, remove the unnecessary type-cast.

---

  arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c |    6 +++++-
  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c renamed from arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c~SAVE_STACK_WO_FP +5 -1
@@ -26,8 +26,10 @@ static int save_stack_stack(void *data,
  static void save_stack_address(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
  {
  	struct stack_trace *trace = data;
+#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
  	if (!reliable)
  		return;
+#endif
  	if (trace->skip>  0) {
  		trace->skip--;
  		return;
@@ -39,9 +41,11 @@ static void save_stack_address(void *dat
  static void
  save_stack_address_nosched(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
  {
-	struct stack_trace *trace = (struct stack_trace *)data;
+	struct stack_trace *trace = data;
+#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
  	if (!reliable)
  		return;
+#endif
  	if (in_sched_functions(addr))
  		return;
  	if (trace->skip>  0) {
#3 lore raw
Quoted 5 lines · Arjan van de Ven
Quoted 4 lines · Oleg Nesterov

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

would be nice if there was a compile time thing to detect if frame pointers are on ratehr than an ifdef.

I wanted to suggest that too, but since only one place got the ifdef after the second patch.

But yeah, something like this could be reused:

	if (reliable_frame_pointer(reliable))
		return ...;
Quoted 4 lines

you're now also changing the rules; until now, you would ALWAYS get a backtrace without noise....
now that's changing quite a bit. How are various tools (like perf and sysprof) going to cope with that?

perf and sysprof have their own stacktrace ops, so they aren't affected. I think the rest is /proc/pid/task, lockdep, latencytop, ftrace, kmemleak, etc...

For the kernel parts it's in fact desired.
And with ftrace we are changing some rules, but this is desired too, without frame pointers we would have nothing anyway. And it's quite easy to find out a stacktrace is not entirely reliable at a glance.

#4 lore raw
Quoted 15 lines · Frederic Weisbecker
Quoted 5 lines · Arjan van de Ven
Quoted 4 lines · Oleg Nesterov

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

would be nice if there was a compile time thing to detect if frame pointers are on ratehr than an ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

I wanted to suggest that too, but since only one place got the ifdef after the second patch.

But yeah, something like this could be reused:

	if (reliable_frame_pointer(reliable))
		return ...;

Do you mean it makes sense to add the helper which depends on FRAME_POINTER ?

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

you're now also changing the rules; until now, you would ALWAYS get a backtrace without noise....
now that's changing quite a bit. How are various tools (like perf and sysprof) going to cope with that?

Quoted 8 lines

perf and sysprof have their own stacktrace ops, so they aren't affected. I think the rest is /proc/pid/task, lockdep, latencytop, ftrace, kmemleak, etc...

For the kernel parts it's in fact desired.
And with ftrace we are changing some rules, but this is desired too, without frame pointers we would have nothing anyway. And it's quite easy to find out a stacktrace is not entirely reliable at a glance.

Frederic, Arjan. Honestly, I have no opinion if this change makes things better or worse for, say, lockdep.

But note that this only affects the !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER case. Looking into Kconfig's I don't even understand how the bug reporters managed to set CONFIG_STACKTRACE without !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER.

So, should I redo this patch to fix /proc/pid/stack ? Say, we can change the meaning of stack_trace-<skip, if it is < 0, then save_stack_address() ignores reliable. Yes, this is hack.

Oleg.

#5 lore raw
Quoted 19 lines · Oleg Nesterov
Quoted 18 lines · Frederic Weisbecker
Quoted 5 lines · Arjan van de Ven
Quoted 4 lines · Oleg Nesterov

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

would be nice if there was a compile time thing to detect if frame pointers are on ratehr than an ifdef.

I wanted to suggest that too, but since only one place got the ifdef after the second patch.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

But yeah, something like this could be reused:

	if (reliable_frame_pointer(reliable))
		return ...;

Do you mean it makes sense to add the helper which depends on FRAME_POINTER ?

Having in asm/stacktrace.h:

#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
static inline int reliable_frame_pointer(int reliable)

{
	return reliable;
}
#else
static inline int reliable_frame_pointer(int reliable)
{
	return 1;
}

#endif

But if we have only one user I'm not sure it's worth it.

Quoted 19 lines
Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

you're now also changing the rules; until now, you would ALWAYS get a backtrace without noise....
now that's changing quite a bit. How are various tools (like perf and sysprof) going to cope with that?

Quoted 8 lines

perf and sysprof have their own stacktrace ops, so they aren't affected. I think the rest is /proc/pid/task, lockdep, latencytop, ftrace, kmemleak, etc...

For the kernel parts it's in fact desired.
And with ftrace we are changing some rules, but this is desired too, without frame pointers we would have nothing anyway. And it's quite easy to find out a stacktrace is not entirely reliable at a glance.

Frederic, Arjan. Honestly, I have no opinion if this change makes things better or worse for, say, lockdep.

Quoted 7 lines

But note that this only affects the !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER case. Looking into Kconfig's I don't even understand how the bug reporters managed to set CONFIG_STACKTRACE without !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER.

So, should I redo this patch to fix /proc/pid/stack ? Say, we can change the meaning of stack_trace-<skip, if it is < 0, then save_stack_address() ignores reliable. Yes, this is hack.

No, people may want to ignore reliable and also to skip entries.

I think your patches as is are the right way to go: by default provide as much information as we can.

And those who care about reliability can use their own stack ops, which is what perf does for example. If needed we can still add a new save_stack_trace_reliable() in the future.

#6 lore raw
Quoted 18 lines · Frederic Weisbecker
Quoted 3 lines · Oleg Nesterov

Do you mean it makes sense to add the helper which depends on FRAME_POINTER ?

Having in asm/stacktrace.h:

#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
static inline int reliable_frame_pointer(int reliable)

{
	return reliable;
}
#else
static inline int reliable_frame_pointer(int reliable)
{
	return 1;
}
Quoted 3 lines

#endif

But if we have only one user I'm not sure it's worth it.

Me too ;) let's ignore this.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 7 lines

Frederic, Arjan. Honestly, I have no opinion if this change makes things better or worse for, say, lockdep.

But note that this only affects the !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER case. Looking into Kconfig's I don't even understand how the bug reporters managed to set CONFIG_STACKTRACE without !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER.

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 3 lines

So, should I redo this patch to fix /proc/pid/stack ? Say, we can change the meaning of stack_trace-<skip, if it is < 0, then save_stack_address() ignores reliable. Yes, this is hack.

No, people may want to ignore reliable and also to skip entries.

Yes, but currently stack_trace->skip is always >= 0. So I think this should work

skip > 0 - skip that much entries, consider reliable
skip == 0 - don't skip, consider reliable
skip < 0 - skip nothing

But yes, I do not like this idea too much. I was going to use this hack if this patch is nacked.

Quoted 6 lines

I think your patches as is are the right way to go: by default provide as much information as we can.

And those who care about reliability can use their own stack ops, which is what perf does for example. If needed we can still add a new save_stack_trace_reliable() in the future.

Great. Thanks!

Oleg.

#7 lore raw

[tip:perf/core] x86: Make save_stack_address() !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER friendly

In reply to Oleg Nesterov
Commit-ID:  147ec4d2361e355ab32499f739cc24845ceb89da
Gitweb:     http://git.kernel.org/tip/147ec4d2361e355ab32499f739cc24845ceb89da
Author:     Oleg Nesterov <[email protected]>
AuthorDate: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:32:39 +0200
Committer:  Frederic Weisbecker <[email protected]>
CommitDate: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:32:15 +0200

x86: Make save_stack_address() !CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER friendly

If CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n, print_context_stack() shouldn't neglect the non-reliable addresses on stack, this is all we have if dump_trace(bp) is called with the wrong or zero bp.

For example, /proc/pid/stack doesn't work if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=n.

This patch obviously has no effect if CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y, otherwise it reverts 1650743c "x86: don't save unreliable stack trace entries".

Also, remove the unnecessary type-cast.

Cc Roland McGrath <[email protected]>
Cc Arjan van de Ven <[email protected]>
Cc Vegard Nossum <[email protected]>
Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
Cc Andrew Morton <[email protected]>

LKML-Reference: <[email protected]>

---
 arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c |    6 +++++-
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
arch/x86/kernel/stacktrace.c +5 -1
index ea54d02..abc321d 100644
@@ -26,8 +26,10 @@ static int save_stack_stack(void *data, char *name)
 static void save_stack_address(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
 {
 	struct stack_trace *trace = data;
+#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
 	if (!reliable)
 		return;
+#endif
 	if (trace->skip > 0) {
 		trace->skip--;
 		return;
@@ -39,9 +41,11 @@ static void save_stack_address(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
 static void
 save_stack_address_nosched(void *data, unsigned long addr, int reliable)
 {
-	struct stack_trace *trace = (struct stack_trace *)data;
+	struct stack_trace *trace = data;
+#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
 	if (!reliable)
 		return;
+#endif
 	if (in_sched_functions(addr))
 		return;
 	if (trace->skip > 0) {