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RFC PATCH 1/1 dt: describe base reset signal binding

From: Stephen Warren <[email protected]>

This binding is intended to represent the hardware reset signals present internally in most IC (SoC, FPGA, ...) designs.

Such a binding would allow the creation of a "reset subsystem", which could replace APIs such as the following Tegra-specific API:

void tegra_periph_reset_deassert(struct clk *c);
void tegra_periph_reset_assert(struct clk *c);

(Note that at present, Tegra couples reset assertion with the clock for the affected peripheral module. However, reset and clocking are two separate, yet admittedly related, concepts).

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What do people think of this? Does it sound like a good idea to go ahead with a reset subsystem? Should we simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem instead (and assume that reset and clock domains match 1:1). Should this be implemented as part of the generic power management domains; see include/linux/pm_domain.h instead?

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+= Reset Signal Device Tree Bindings =
+
+This binding is intended to represent the hardware reset signals present
+internally in most IC (SoC, FPGA, ...) designs. Reset signals for whole
+standalone chips are most likely better represented as GPIOs, although there
+are likely to be exceptions to this rule.
+
+Hardware blocks typically receive a reset signal. This signal is generated by
+a reset provider (e.g. power management or clock module) and received by a
+reset consumer (the module being reset, or a module managing when a sub-
+ordinate module is reset). This binding exists to represent the provider and
+consumer, and provide a way to couple the two together.
+
+A reset signal is represented by the phandle of the provider, plus a reset
+specifier - a list of DT cells that represents the reset signal within the
+provider. The length (number of cells) and semantics of the reset specifier
+are dictated by the binding of the reset provider, although common schemes
+are described below.
+
+A word on where to place reset signal consumers in device tree: It is possible
+in hardware for a reset signal to affect multiple logically separate HW blocks
+at once. In this case, it would be unwise to represent this reset signal in
+the DT node of each affected HW block, since if activated, an unrelated block
+may be reset. Instead, reset signals should be represented in the DT node
+where it makes most sense to control it; this may be a bus node if all
+children of the bus are affected by the reset signal, or an individual HW
+block node for dedicated reset signals. The intent of this binding is to give
+appropriate software access to the reset signals in order to manage the HW,
+rather than to slavishly enumerate the reset signal that affects each HW
+block.
+
+= Reset providers =
+
+Required properties:
+#reset-cells:	Number of cells in a reset specifier; Typically 0 for nodes
+		with a single reset output and 1 for nodes with multiple
+		reset outputs.
+
+For example:
+
+	rst: reset-controller {
+		#reset-cells = <1>;
+	};
+
+= Reset consumers =
+
+Required properties:
+resets:		List of phandle and reset specifier pairs, one pair
+		for each reset signal that affects the device, or that the
+		device manages. Note: if the reset provider specifies '0' for
+		#reset-cells, then only the phandle portion of the pair will
+		appear.
+
+Optional properties:
+reset-names:	List of reset signal name strings sorted in the same order as
+		the resets property. Consumers drivers will use reset-names to
+		match reset signal names with reset specifiers.
+
+For example:
+
+	device {
+		resets = <&rst 20>;
+		reset-names = "reset";
+	};
+
+This represents a device with a single reset signal named "reset".
+
+	bus {
+		resets = <&rst 10> <&rst 11> <&rst 12> <&rst 11>;
+		reset-names = "i2s1", "i2s2", "dma", "mixer";
+	};
+
+This represents a bus that controls the reset signal of each of four sub-
+ordinate devices. Consider for example a bus that fails to operate unless no
+child device has reset asserted.
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Quoting Stephen Warren (2012-10-23 14:45:56)

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What do people think of this? Does it sound like a good idea to go ahead with a reset subsystem? Should we simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem instead (and assume that reset and clock domains match 1:1). Should this be implemented as part of the generic power management domains; see include/linux/pm_domain.h instead?

Hi Stephen,

I'm not sure a "reset subsystem" is necessary, but I also do not like using clocks as the keys for IP reset. I think it is more common to map IPs to struct device, no?

And of course for clocks shared by multiple users this will not scale.

Regards,
Mike

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Quoted 8 lines · Mike Turquette

Quoting Stephen Warren (2012-10-23 14:45:56)

Quoted 6 lines

What do people think of this? Does it sound like a good idea to go ahead with a reset subsystem? Should we simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem instead (and assume that reset and clock domains match 1:1). Should this be implemented as part of the generic power management domains; see include/linux/pm_domain.h instead?

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Hi Stephen,

I'm not sure a "reset subsystem" is necessary, but I also do not like using clocks as the keys for IP reset.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting as an alternative to a reset subsystem (or API if you want something that sounds smaller!) :-)

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I think it is more common to map IPs to struct device, no?

It is indeed probably common that there's a 1:1 mapping between IP blocks and struct device. However, I'm sure there are plenty of counter-examples; IP blocks with multiple reset domains (hence struct devices that encompass multiple reset domains, or reset domains that encompass multiple struct devices), just as there are many examples of non-1:1 mappings between struct device and struct clk.

Even ignoring that, we'd still need to API say device_reset(struct device *dev) or device_reset(struct device *dev, const char *conid) wouldn't we? That's really all I meant by a reset subsystem.

An alternative here would be to simply move Tegra's tegra_periph_reset_{de,}assert() function prototypes into a header in include/linux rather than mach-tegra/include/mach. However, I imagine at least some other SoC needs a similar API, so a common API might be useful?

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RFC PATCH 1/1 dt: describe base reset signal binding

Quoting Stephen Warren (2012-10-30 11:02:05)

Quoted 9 lines · Mike Turquette
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Quoting Stephen Warren (2012-10-23 14:45:56)

Quoted 6 lines

What do people think of this? Does it sound like a good idea to go ahead with a reset subsystem? Should we simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem instead (and assume that reset and clock domains match 1:1). Should this be implemented as part of the generic power management domains; see include/linux/pm_domain.h instead?

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Hi Stephen,

I'm not sure a "reset subsystem" is necessary, but I also do not like using clocks as the keys for IP reset.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting as an alternative to a reset subsystem (or API if you want something that sounds smaller!) :-)

My point was that I do not know if a new subsystem is necessary or not. Your suggestion to "simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem" is an example of an alternative to a whole new subsystem. However I instinctively feel that the clock api is not the right place for reseting devices.

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I think it is more common to map IPs to struct device, no?

It is indeed probably common that there's a 1:1 mapping between IP blocks and struct device. However, I'm sure there are plenty of counter-examples; IP blocks with multiple reset domains (hence struct devices that encompass multiple reset domains, or reset domains that encompass multiple struct devices), just as there are many examples of non-1:1 mappings between struct device and struct clk.

In OMAP code we handle IP resets through the hwmod code and I prefer that IP-centric approach to associating IP resets with a clock node. Perhaps the hwmod approach could serve as inspiration for a new generic way to reset modules.

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Even ignoring that, we'd still need to API say device_reset(struct device *dev) or device_reset(struct device *dev, const char *conid) wouldn't we? That's really all I meant by a reset subsystem.

Of course. The api must exist.

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An alternative here would be to simply move Tegra's tegra_periph_reset_{de,}assert() function prototypes into a header in include/linux rather than mach-tegra/include/mach. However, I imagine at least some other SoC needs a similar API, so a common API might be useful?

I also agree. I think that there was simply some confusion about how I responded. To reiterate, I'm not sure whether a new subsystem should be created or if the API can find a home in some existing subsystem, but I don't think the clock framework is the right place for it.

Regards,
Mike

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Quoted 15 lines · Mike Turquette

Quoting Stephen Warren (2012-10-30 11:02:05)

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Quoting Stephen Warren (2012-10-23 14:45:56)

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What do people think of this? Does it sound like a good idea to go ahead with a reset subsystem? Should we simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem instead (and assume that reset and clock domains match 1:1). Should this be implemented as part of the generic power management domains; see include/linux/pm_domain.h instead?

Hi Stephen,

I'm not sure a "reset subsystem" is necessary, but I also do not like using clocks as the keys for IP reset.

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I'm not sure what you're suggesting as an alternative to a reset subsystem (or API if you want something that sounds smaller!) :-)

My point was that I do not know if a new subsystem is necessary or not. Your suggestion to "simply add a new API to the common clock subsystem" is an example of an alternative to a whole new subsystem. However I instinctively feel that the clock api is not the right place for reseting devices.

driver/base/power is about the only related place I can think of given a quick look. However, in a similar way to clocks, I don't think there's necessarily a 1:1 relationship between power domains and reset domains either, so driver/base/power doesn't feel like a good fit in just the same way that drivers/clk doesn't.

I wonder if a drivers/base/reset/ or drivers/base/reset.c would be appropriate?

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I think it is more common to map IPs to struct device, no?

It is indeed probably common that there's a 1:1 mapping between IP blocks and struct device. However, I'm sure there are plenty of counter-examples; IP blocks with multiple reset domains (hence struct devices that encompass multiple reset domains, or reset domains that encompass multiple struct devices), just as there are many examples of non-1:1 mappings between struct device and struct clk.

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In OMAP code we handle IP resets through the hwmod code and I prefer that IP-centric approach to associating IP resets with a clock node. Perhaps the hwmod approach could serve as inspiration for a new generic way to reset modules.

OK, I'm not even slightly familiar with the hwmod code, but I keep hearing about it, so I'll go take a quick look.