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DISCUSSION Paul Eggleton 5 participants 7 messages Jan 14, 2014

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Hi all,

There will be a public OpenEmbedded TSC/workgroup meeting today - there wouldn't normally be one scheduled but there was quite a lot of discussion last time (which is a good thing!). If you're interested in discussing long- term technical efforts around the OpenEmbedded project please join us on irc.freenode.net in channel #oe at
17:00 GMT (9am PST, 11am CST, 12 EST, 18:00 CET) today.

Topics we covered last meeting:

* Qt 4 / 5 recipes in OE-Core
* Rising bug count in Bugzilla and what we can do about it
* (briefly) Patch review/merging process
* Absentee layer maintainers

Issues we didn't get to last time (that weren't resolved on the mailing list):
- janitorial day/week?
- "bitbake world" failures scrub
- initrdscripts/init-live needs work
- lava evaluation
- website and other infrastructure issues
- next release

New issues for discussion are also welcome.

Cheers,
Paul

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Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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Quoted 24 lines · Paul Eggleton

Hi all,

There will be a public OpenEmbedded TSC/workgroup meeting today - there wouldn't normally be one scheduled but there was quite a lot of discussion last time (which is a good thing!). If you're interested in discussing long- term technical efforts around the OpenEmbedded project please join us on irc.freenode.net in channel #oe at
17:00 GMT (9am PST, 11am CST, 12 EST, 18:00 CET) today.

Topics we covered last meeting:

* Qt 4 / 5 recipes in OE-Core
* Rising bug count in Bugzilla and what we can do about it
* (briefly) Patch review/merging process
* Absentee layer maintainers

Issues we didn't get to last time (that weren't resolved on the mailing list):
- janitorial day/week?
- "bitbake world" failures scrub
- initrdscripts/init-live needs work
- lava evaluation
- website and other infrastructure issues
- next release

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New issues for discussion are also welcome.

Not sure if it's worth new item on agenda, but maybe we should move meta/classes/image-prelink.bbclass functionality to package.bbclass, maybe we have more cases like this where image build is changing files which are provided by normal packages (such cases are lost after upgrading on device with packagemanager).

Cheers,

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Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: [email protected]
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Quoted 5 lines · Martin Jansa

Not sure if it's worth new item on agenda, but maybe we should move meta/classes/image-prelink.bbclass functionality to package.bbclass, maybe we have more cases like this where image build is changing files which are provided by normal packages (such cases are lost after upgrading on device with packagemanager).

How would that work? I'm not sure that it's possible (in the general case) to prelink in any sensible way prior to rootfs construction. The same applies to image-mklibs.bbclass.

p.

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Quoted 5 lines · Martin Jansa

Not sure if it's worth new item on agenda, but maybe we should move meta/classes/image-prelink.bbclass functionality to package.bbclass, maybe we have more cases like this where image build is changing files which are provided by normal packages (such cases are lost after upgrading on device with packagemanager).

How would that work? I'm not sure that it's possible (in the general case) to prelink in any sensible way prior to rootfs construction. The same applies to image-mklibs.bbclass.

Hmm, you're right.

The reason why I was thinking about this, is that someone reported to me that libc-dbg doesn't work after prelink changed libc headers in do_rootfs (external toolchain).

IIRC there was some discussion about issues caused by prelink changing headers, I'll try to find it in archives, sorry for noise.

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Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: [email protected]
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Quoted 24 lines · Paul Eggleton

Hi all,

There will be a public OpenEmbedded TSC/workgroup meeting today - there wouldn't normally be one scheduled but there was quite a lot of discussion last time (which is a good thing!). If you're interested in discussing long- term technical efforts around the OpenEmbedded project please join us on irc.freenode.net in channel #oe at
17:00 GMT (9am PST, 11am CST, 12 EST, 18:00 CET) today.

Topics we covered last meeting:

* Qt 4 / 5 recipes in OE-Core
* Rising bug count in Bugzilla and what we can do about it
* (briefly) Patch review/merging process
* Absentee layer maintainers

Issues we didn't get to last time (that weren't resolved on the mailing list):
- janitorial day/week?
- "bitbake world" failures scrub
- initrdscripts/init-live needs work
- lava evaluation
- website and other infrastructure issues
- next release

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New issues for discussion are also welcome.

Not sure if it's worth new item on agenda, but maybe we should move meta/classes/image-prelink.bbclass functionality to package.bbclass, maybe we have more cases like this where image build is changing files which are provided by normal packages (such cases are lost after upgrading on device with packagemanager).

We can discuss this, but prelink has to run on the filesystem image -- it can't run prior to packaging as the files installed into the image affect the results of the prelinking.

For the prelink case, on target updates should be triggering the prelink system after the update. This is the responsibility of the field-upgrade software -- whatever is deployed on the device itself.

(Also when using the prelinker, on many devices it makes sense to strip the un-prelink information for space savings. This won't prevent prelink from being run a second time -- it just prevents validation of the original not-prelinked binary.)

--Mark

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Cheers,

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Quoted 1 line · Paul Eggleton

There will be a public OpenEmbedded TSC/workgroup meeting today

Hmm... is this the first announcement/discussion of the date/time for the intermediate meeting? I was really hoping to attend, but have a schedule conflict :-(