imx: bootaux elf firmware support
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cover imx: bootaux elf firmware support
From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address: 0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3 KiB
5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at 0x1FFF8311 ...
Colibri iMX7 #
Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary. Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations. Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
Stefan Agner (3):
imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot support
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 files changed, 198 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-) create mode 100644 arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h
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2.12.1
PATCH 1/3 imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
For i.MX 6SoloX/i.MX 7 simple binary files are used to boot the auxiliary CPU core (Cortex-M4). This patch moves the "parsing" of this binary firmwares to the SoC independent code. This allows to add different binary formats more easily.
While at it, also move the comment about the inner workings how to boot the Cortex-M4 core to a more appropriate location.
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arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 18 ++++++++++-------- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 19 +++++++++++-------- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 21 +++++++++------------ 3 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c +10 -8
@@ -666,16 +666,18 @@ void imx_setup_hdmi(void)#endif #ifdef CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX -int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 boot_private_data) +/* +* Per the cortex-M reference manual, the reset vector of M4 needs +* to exist at 0x0 (TCMUL). The PC and SP are the first two addresses +* of that vector. So to boot M4, the A core must build the M4's reset +* vector with getting the PC and SP from image and filling them to +* TCMUL. When M4 is kicked, it will load the PC and SP by itself. +* The TCMUL is mapped to (M4_BOOTROM_BASE_ADDR) at A core side for +* accessing the M4 TCMUL. +*/ +int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 stack,u32 pc) {struct src *src_reg; -u32 stack, pc; - -if (!boot_private_data) -return -EINVAL ; - - stack = *(u32 *)boot_private_data; - pc = *(u32 *)(boot_private_data +4 );/* Set the stack and pc to M4 bootROM */ writel (stack,M4_BOOTROM_BASE_ADDR );
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c +11 -8
@@ -311,17 +311,20 @@ void imx_get_mac_from_fuse(int dev_id, unsigned char *mac)#endif #ifdef CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX -int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 boot_private_data) + +/* +* Per the cortex-M reference manual, the reset vector of M4 needs +* to exist at 0x0 (TCMUL). The PC and SP are the first two addresses +* of that vector. So to boot M4, the A core must build the M4's reset +* vector with getting the PC and SP from image and filling them to +* TCMUL. When M4 is kicked, it will load the PC and SP by itself. +* The TCMUL is mapped to (M4_BOOTROM_BASE_ADDR) at A core side for +* accessing the M4 TCMUL. +*/ +int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 stack,u32 pc) { -u32 stack, pc;struct src *src_reg = (struct src *)SRC_BASE_ADDR ; -if (!boot_private_data) -return 1 ; - - stack = *(u32 *)boot_private_data; - pc = *(u32 *)(boot_private_data +4 ); -/* Set the stack and pc to M4 bootROM */ writel (stack,M4_BOOTROM_BASE_ADDR );writel (pc,M4_BOOTROM_BASE_ADDR +4 );
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c +9 -12
@@ -8,13 +8,13 @@#include <command.h> /* Allow for arch specific config before we boot */ -static int __arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 boot_private_data) +static int __arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 stack,u32 pc) {/* please define platform specific arch_auxiliary_core_up() */ return CMD_RET_FAILURE ; } -int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 boot_private_data) +int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 stack,u32 pc) __attribute__((weak,alias ("__arch_auxiliary_core_up" )));/* Allow for arch specific config before we boot */
@@ -31,17 +31,10 @@ int arch_auxiliary_core_check_up(u32 core_id)* To i.MX6SX and i.MX7D, the image supported by bootaux needs * the reset vector at the head for the image, with SP and PC * as the first two words. -* -* Per the cortex-M reference manual, the reset vector of M4 needs -* to exist at 0x0 (TCMUL). The PC and SP are the first two addresses -* of that vector. So to boot M4, the A core must build the M4's reset -* vector with getting the PC and SP from image and filling them to -* TCMUL. When M4 is kicked, it will load the PC and SP by itself. -* The TCMUL is mapped to (M4_BOOTROM_BASE_ADDR) at A core side for -* accessing the M4 TCMUL. */ int do_bootaux (cmd_tbl_t *cmdtp,int flag,int argc,char *const argv[]) { +u32 stack, pc;ulong addr;int ret, up;
@@ -56,9 +49,13 @@ int do_bootaux(cmd_tbl_t *cmdtp, int flag, int argc, char * const argv[]) addr =simple_strtoul (argv[1 ],NULL ,16 ); -printf ("## Starting auxiliary core at 0x%08lX ...\n" , addr); +/* Assume binary file with vector table at the beginning */ + stack = *(u32 *)addr; + pc = *(u32 *)(addr +4 ); + +printf ("## Starting auxiliary core at 0x%08X ...\n" , pc); - ret =arch_auxiliary_core_up (0 , addr); + ret =arch_auxiliary_core_up (0 , stack, pc);if (ret)return CMD_RET_FAILURE ;
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2.12.1
PATCH 2/3 imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
In reply to Stefan AgnerFrom: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
Support elf firmware files for the auxiliary Cortex-M4 core. This has the advantage that the user does not need to know to which address the binary has been linked to. However, in order to load the elf sections to the right address, we need to translate the Cortex-M4 core memory addresses to primary/host CPU memory addresses (U-Boot is typically running on the A7/A9 core). This allows to boot firmwares from any location with just using bootaux, e.g.:
tftp ${loadaddr} low_power_demo.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr}---
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 12 ++++ arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 15 +++++ arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 90 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++--- arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ 4 files changed, 116 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c +12 -0
@@ -666,6 +666,18 @@ void imx_setup_hdmi(void)#endif #ifdef CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX +#ifdef CONFIG_MX6SX +const struct memorymap hostmap[] = { + { .auxcore = 0x00000000, .host = 0x007f8000, .size = 0x8000 }, + { .auxcore = 0x1fff8000, .host = 0x007f8000, .size = 0x8000 }, + { .auxcore = 0x20000000, .host = 0x00800000, .size = 0x8000 }, + { .auxcore = 0x00900000, .host = 0x00900000, .size = 0x20000 }, + { .auxcore = 0x20900000, .host = 0x00900000, .size = 0x20000 }, + { .auxcore = 0x10000000, .host = 0x80000000, .size = 0x0fff0000 }, + { .auxcore = 0x80000000, .host = 0x80000000, .size = 0xe0000000 }, + { /* sentinel */ } +#endif + /* * Per the cortex-M reference manual, the reset vector of M4 needs * to exist at 0x0 (TCMUL). The PC and SP are the first two addresses
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c +15 -0
@@ -311,6 +311,21 @@ void imx_get_mac_from_fuse(int dev_id, unsigned char *mac)#endif #ifdef CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX +const struct memorymap hostmap[] = { + { .auxcore =0x00000000 , .host =0x00180000 , .size =0x8000 }, + { .auxcore =0x00180000 , .host =0x00180000 , .size =0x8000 }, + { .auxcore =0x1fff8000 , .host =0x007f8000 , .size =0x8000 }, + { .auxcore =0x20000000 , .host =0x00800000 , .size =0x8000 }, + { .auxcore =0x00900000 , .host =0x00900000 , .size =0x20000 }, + { .auxcore =0x20200000 , .host =0x00900000 , .size =0x20000 }, + { .auxcore =0x00920000 , .host =0x00920000 , .size =0x20000 }, + { .auxcore =0x20220000 , .host =0x00920000 , .size =0x20000 }, + { .auxcore =0x00940000 , .host =0x00940000 , .size =0x20000 }, + { .auxcore =0x20240000 , .host =0x00940000 , .size =0x20000 }, + { .auxcore =0x10000000 , .host =0x80000000 , .size =0x0fff0000 }, + { .auxcore =0x80000000 , .host =0x80000000 , .size =0xe0000000 }, + {/* sentinel */ } +};/* * Per the cortex-M reference manual, the reset vector of M4 needs
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c +83 -7
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arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h +6 -0
@@ -87,6 +87,12 @@ static inline u8 imx6_is_bmode_from_gpr9(void)u32 imx6_src_get_boot_mode (void );#endif /* CONFIG_MX6 */ +struct memorymap { +unsigned long auxcore; +unsigned long host; +unsigned long size; +}; +u32 get_nr_cpus (void );u32 get_cpu_rev (void );u32 get_cpu_speed_grade_hz (void );
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2.12.1
PATCH 3/3 ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot support
In reply to Stefan AgnerFrom: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
Use i.MX bootaux support introduced for i.MX 6SoloX/i.MX 7 for Vybrid too. Starting the Cortex-M4 core on Vybrid works a bit differently, naemly it uses a GPR register to define the initial PC. There is no way to define the initial stack (the stack is set up in a boot ROM). This is not a problem for most firmwares since the firmwares startup code reinitialize the stack as part of the firmware startup code anyway.
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arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 ++- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 ++++++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 5 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) create mode 100644 arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h
arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c +42 -0
@@ -376,3 +376,45 @@ void enable_caches(void)mmu_set_region_dcache_behaviour (IRAM_BASE_ADDR ,IRAM_SIZE , option); }#endif + +#ifdef CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX +#define CCM_CCOWR_START 0x00015a5a + +const struct memorymap hostmap[] = { + { .auxcore =0x00000000 , .host =0x00000000 , .size =0x18000 }, + { .auxcore =0x1f000000 , .host =0x3f000000 , .size =0x80000 }, + { .auxcore =0x1f800000 , .host =0x1f800000 , .size =0x8000 }, + { .auxcore =0x3f000000 , .host =0x3f000000 , .size =0x80000 }, + { .auxcore =0x3f800000 , .host =0x3f800000 , .size =0x8000 }, + { .auxcore =0x00800000 , .host =0x80800000 , .size =0x0f800000 }, + { .auxcore =0x80000000 , .host =0x80000000 , .size =0xe0000000 }, + {/* sentinel */ } +}; + +/* The Cortex-M4 starts from the address present in SRC_GPR2 */ +int arch_auxiliary_core_up (u32 core_id,u32 stack,u32 pc) +{ +struct src *src = (struct src *)SRC_BASE_ADDR ; +struct ccm_reg *ccm = (struct ccm_reg *)CCM_BASE_ADDR ; + +/* Set the PC for the Cortex-M4 */ +writel (pc, &src->gpr2); + +/* Enable M4 */ +writel (CCM_CCOWR_START , &ccm->ccowr); + +return 0 ; +} + +int arch_auxiliary_core_check_up (u32 core_id) +{ +uint32_t val; +struct ccm_reg *ccm = (struct ccm_reg *)CCM_BASE_ADDR ; + + val =readl (&ccm->ccowr); +if (val &0x00010000 ) +return 1 ; + +return 0 ; +} +#endif
arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig +1 -1
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ config IMX_RDC config IMX_BOOTAUX bool "Support boot auxiliary core" - depends on ARCH_MX7 || ARCH_MX6 + depends on ARCH_MX7 || ARCH_MX6 || ARCH_VF610 help bootaux [addr] to boot auxiliary core.
arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile +3 -1
@@ -28,13 +28,15 @@ obj-y += cache.o init.o obj-$(CONFIG_CMD_SATA) += sata.o obj-$(CONFIG_IMX_VIDEO_SKIP) += video.o obj-$(CONFIG_IMX_RDC) += rdc-sema.o -obj-$(CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX) += imx_bootaux.o obj-$(CONFIG_SECURE_BOOT) += hab.o endif ifeq ($(SOC),$(filter $(SOC),mx7ulp)) obj-y += cache.o obj-$(CONFIG_SECURE_BOOT) += hab.o endif +ifeq ($(SOC),$(filter $(SOC),mx6 mx7 vf610)) +obj-$(CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX) += imx_bootaux.o +endif ifeq ($(SOC),$(filter $(SOC),vf610)) obj-y += ddrmc-vf610.o endif
arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h new file +8 -0
@@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +/* +* (C) Copyright 2017 +* Stefan Agner, Toradex +* +* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0+ +*/ + +#include <asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h>
configs/colibri_vf_defconfig +1 -0
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@ CONFIG_ARM=y CONFIG_SYS_THUMB_BUILD=y CONFIG_ARCH_VF610=y CONFIG_TARGET_COLIBRI_VF=y +CONFIG_IMX_BOOTAUX=y CONFIG_DEFAULT_DEVICE_TREE="vf610-colibri" CONFIG_SYS_EXTRA_OPTIONS="IMX_CONFIG=board/toradex/colibri_vf/imximage.cfg,ENV_IS_IN_NAND,IMX_NAND" CONFIG_BOOTDELAY=1
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2.12.1
cover imx: bootaux elf firmware support
In reply to Stefan AgnerHi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
Colibri iMX7 #
I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
Maybe it would better to:
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Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it.
One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
IMHO, this is very generic approach.
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Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses
in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations.
This would require some tiny arch specific code.
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Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
Stefan Agner (3):
imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot supportarch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 files changed,
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198 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-) create mode 100644
arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h
Best regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Hi Lukasz,
Quoted 25 lines · Lukasz Majewski
Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
Colibri iMX7 #
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I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it. I don't know how FPGA bistream loading typically works, but I guess it is quite different from loading a firmware into RAM/SRAM and flush caches...
I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it.
One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
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The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2
Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
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Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses
in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations.This would require some tiny arch specific code.
Yes, but in my rather small patchset (164 additional lines) this is actually almost the bulk of changes :-)
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Stefan
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Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
Stefan Agner (3):
imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot supportarch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 files changed,Quoted 3 lines
198 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-) create mode 100644
arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.hBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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Quoted 37 lines · Stefan Agner
Hi Lukasz,
Quoted 25 lines · Lukasz Majewski
Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
Colibri iMX7 #Quoted 8 lines
I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
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I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
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Best regards, Marek Vasut
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Quoted 41 lines · Stefan Agner
Hi Lukasz,
Quoted 25 lines · Lukasz Majewski
Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
Quoted 8 lines
From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
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done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
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I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the get_host_mapping callback in the elf loader code to let architecture dependent code translate to host addresses. SMP systems don't need that.
Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
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Hi Lukasz,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
Colibri iMX7 #Quoted 8 lines
I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
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Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
get_host_mappingcallback in the elf loader code to let architecture dependent code translate to host addresses. SMP systems don't need that.Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
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Hi Lukasz,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux ${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
Colibri iMX7 #Quoted 8 lines
I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
get_host_mappingcallback in the elf loader code to let architecture dependent code translate to host addresses. SMP systems don't need that.
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Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
Yeah, I guess you can get away with dummy callback implementation and a performance hit due to cash flushes.
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
Agreed, and I really wished that this got discussed when that command initially got added. I brought it up back then...
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240323.html
It seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then... Ok, it is not entirely random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words).... However, making this ad hoc command now generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Lukasz,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ##################################################
88.3 KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
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One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
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Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
Yeah, I guess you can get away with dummy callback implementation and a performance hit due to cash flushes.
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
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The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
Agreed, and I really wished that this got discussed when that command initially got added. I brought it up back then...
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240323.html
I can only regret that this discussion did not happened then...
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It seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then... Ok, it is not entirely random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words).... However, making this ad hoc command now generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)
Please refer to my reply to an earlier mail in this thread.
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
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Best regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
get_host_mappingcallback in the elf loader code to let architecture dependent code translate to host addresses. SMP systems don't need that.
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Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
Yeah, I guess you can get away with dummy callback implementation and a performance hit due to cash flushes.
Or you can abstract things out ?
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
Agreed, and I really wished that this got discussed when that command initially got added. I brought it up back then...
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240323.htmlIt seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then...
Based on that discussion, I only see that noone opposed, but I don't see any agreement.
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random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words)....
I thought this command was starting the core by loading data to RAM , not flash ?
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However, making this ad hoc command now
generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)
We always try to avoid one-off hacks, so it's not weird. I still don't quite understand how it is a problem to abstract things out . I am not asking you to support CA, but to avoid CM specific implementation which cannot be extended to support CA or even MIPS/Nios2/etc .
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
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The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
Uh, why, that does not make any sense to me. Both the random core in FPGA and the secondary CA9 core have almost the same bringup sequence. What is so different about this stuff ?
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
So we already accepted a command which has shit commandline semantics and we're stuck with it , hrm. You can always specify a default core index for those two iMX boards and it's done. Or just fix the semantics in their default environment, which is not awesome, but I doubt this is wildly used yet.
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
get_host_mappingcallback in the elf loader code to let architecture dependent code translate to host addresses. SMP systems don't need that.Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
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So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
Yeah, I guess you can get away with dummy callback implementation and a performance hit due to cash flushes.
Or you can abstract things out ?
There is one callback to arch for translation and one for cache flush, what more can I abstract out?
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
Agreed, and I really wished that this got discussed when that command initially got added. I brought it up back then...
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240323.html
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It seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then...
Based on that discussion, I only see that noone opposed, but I don't see any agreement.
Maybe I need to word my emails a bit stronger, but with that email I actually tried to oppose:
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240989.html
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Ok, it is not entirely
random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words)....I thought this command was starting the core by loading data to RAM , not flash ?
Ok, maybe I am a bit unclear here:
bootaux currently supports a Cortex-M specific binary format only. The binary format starts with a Cortex-M class vector table. The vector tables first vector is the "reset vector".
In a regular microcontroller, that binary gets flashed on a NOR flash which is mapped at 0x0 for the CPU. The CPU has no "boot ROM", the CPU starts by calling the reset vector. So when NXP defined how the bootaux command should look like, they just took that binary format which was laying around and implemented a U-Boot command around it.
So this is the history of the binary format. And my point here is, that the binary format supported by bootaux is _very_ Cortex-M class specific.
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However, making this ad hoc command now
generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)We always try to avoid one-off hacks, so it's not weird. I still don't quite understand how it is a problem to abstract things out . I am not asking you to support CA, but to avoid CM specific implementation which cannot be extended to support CA or even MIPS/Nios2/etc .
Again, why would you support a Cortex-M class specific file format for MIPS/Nios2 etc...?
bootaux is M4 specific. We can through it away, and start over, but then we should call the command differently.
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
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In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
Uh, why, that does not make any sense to me. Both the random core in FPGA and the secondary CA9 core have almost the same bringup sequence. What is so different about this stuff ?
A cache coherent core and a non-cache coherent core remote core somewhere in the SoC is very much different IMHO.
Lets compare how you bring up a A class CPU, or cache coherent SMP style CPU in general:
1. Load code into RAM
2. Some cache flushing might be necessary due to I/D-cache incoherency
3. Write entry point into some architecture specific register
4. kick off the CPU by writing another architecture specific register
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1. Load code in RAM, depending on image format translate core specific memory map to host memory map
2. Flush D-cache
3. (Potentially set up IOMMU, not in the NXP case though)
4. Write entry point into some architecture specific register
5. kick off the CPU by writing another architecture specific register
From what I can see, everything is different other than "Load code in RAM" which is image specific. If the image format is complex, we certainly should factor that out to avoid code duplication.
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
So we already accepted a command which has shit commandline semantics and we're stuck with it , hrm. You can always specify a default core
Add shitty binary file format to the list.
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index for those two iMX boards and it's done. Or just fix the semantics in their default environment, which is not awesome, but I doubt this is wildly used yet.
I guess my general point is, bootaux is already broken in two ways:
Command line interface does not allow for extensibility, the only format supported right now is a binary format which is not generic.
My patchset was an attempt to improve the situation to give it at least a decent elf format support.
Note that there is also bootelf, where the elf headers have been introduced. Reusing that command seems impractical since it is meant to boot on the primary CPU. My first attempt was reusing at least the load function, but it seemed impractical due to memory map translation and since the load function is rather short. If it helps for the acceptance of this patchset, I still could try to make that happen.
Making the bootaux something completely new, e.g. a generic command under cmd/*, with CPU enumeration capabilities and (pluggable?) image support is something I am not willing to build.
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
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Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
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Yeah, I guess you can get away with dummy callback implementation and a performance hit due to cash flushes.
Or you can abstract things out ?
There is one callback to arch for translation and one for cache flush, what more can I abstract out?
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
Agreed, and I really wished that this got discussed when that command initially got added. I brought it up back then...
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240323.htmlIt seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then...
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Based on that discussion, I only see that noone opposed, but I don't see any agreement.
Maybe I need to word my emails a bit stronger, but with that email I actually tried to oppose:
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240989.html
Well, I do not like adding ad-hoc commands as it's not managable in the long run.
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Ok, it is not entirely
random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words)....I thought this command was starting the core by loading data to RAM , not flash ?
Ok, maybe I am a bit unclear here:
bootaux currently supports a Cortex-M specific binary format only. The binary format starts with a Cortex-M class vector table. The vector tables first vector is the "reset vector".
In a regular microcontroller, that binary gets flashed on a NOR flash which is mapped at
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So this is the history of the binary format. And my point here is, that the binary format supported by bootaux is _very_ Cortex-M class specific.
Aha, so I now totally don't understand why this command cannot be fixed/extended to support other/generic cores or SMP systems etc. But looking at the initial proposal, I think maybe the intention of this patchset was not to add that support, but to fix the command to support loading ELF files ? We already have bootelf for that though ...
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generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)We always try to avoid one-off hacks, so it's not weird. I still don't quite understand how it is a problem to abstract things out . I am not asking you to support CA, but to avoid CM specific implementation which cannot be extended to support CA or even MIPS/Nios2/etc .
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Again, why would you support a Cortex-M class specific file format for MIPS/Nios2 etc...?
bootaux is M4 specific. We can through it away, and start over, but then we should call the command differently.
Unless you look very carefully, it is not clear that it is cortex M4 specific at all based on this discussion. I was under the impression that the goal here was to support all sorts of secondary cores ...
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
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The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
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In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
Uh, why, that does not make any sense to me. Both the random core in FPGA and the secondary CA9 core have almost the same bringup sequence. What is so different about this stuff ?
A cache coherent core and a non-cache coherent core remote core somewhere in the SoC is very much different IMHO.
Lets compare how you bring up a A class CPU, or cache coherent SMP style CPU in general:
1. Load code into RAM
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From what I can see, everything is different other than "Load code in RAM" which is image specific. If the image format is complex, we certainly should factor that out to avoid code duplication.
Image format is usually binary blob or elf file, we support both. The rest is "load file to RAM, do magic setup (can be CPU specific), unreset CPU".
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
So we already accepted a command which has shit commandline semantics and we're stuck with it , hrm. You can always specify a default core
Add shitty binary file format to the list.
Why do we care about this ? The CM just needs a vectoring table, so set it up (in the elf file or whatever) and point the core at the reset vector.
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index for those two iMX boards and it's done. Or just fix the semantics in their default environment, which is not awesome, but I doubt this is wildly used yet.
I guess my general point is, bootaux is already broken in two ways:
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Note that there is also bootelf, where the elf headers have been introduced. Reusing that command seems impractical since it is meant to boot on the primary CPU. My first attempt was reusing at least the load function, but it seemed impractical due to memory map translation and since the load function is rather short. If it helps for the acceptance of this patchset, I still could try to make that happen.
Extending bootelf might indeed make more sense IMO. But that needs discussion.
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Making the bootaux something completely new, e.g. a generic command under cmd/*, with CPU enumeration capabilities and (pluggable?) image support is something I am not willing to build.
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
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Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
Yeah, I guess you can get away with dummy callback implementation and a performance hit due to cash flushes.
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Or you can abstract things out ?
There is one callback to arch for translation and one for cache flush, what more can I abstract out?
Well then I don't think I understand your concerns about cache flushing in SMP .
It makes things unnecessary slower.
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
Agreed, and I really wished that this got discussed when that command initially got added. I brought it up back then...
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240323.htmlIt seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then...
Based on that discussion, I only see that noone opposed, but I don't see any agreement.
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Maybe I need to word my emails a bit stronger, but with that email I actually tried to oppose:
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240989.htmlWell, I do not like adding ad-hoc commands as it's not managable in the long run.
I argue that a remote core loading command is _much_ more manageable than making the bootm command even more complex by support SMP/remoteproc and whatnot usecases... I would even argue that a bunch of those commands are more manageable than a single ifdef/if hell....
That said, I still would push for keeping the image processing code generic, whenever it makes sense.
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random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words)....I thought this command was starting the core by loading data to RAM , not flash ?
Ok, maybe I am a bit unclear here:
bootaux currently supports a Cortex-M specific binary format only. The binary format starts with a Cortex-M class vector table. The vector tables first vector is the "reset vector".
In a regular microcontroller, that binary gets flashed on a NOR flash which is mapped at
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So this is the history of the binary format. And my point here is, that the binary format supported by bootaux is _very_ Cortex-M class specific.
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Aha, so I now totally don't understand why this command cannot be fixed/extended to support other/generic cores or SMP systems etc. But looking at the initial proposal, I think maybe the intention of this patchset was not to add that support, but to fix the command to support loading ELF files ? We already have bootelf for that though ...
Yes, that is pretty much it. I would like to teach that command a more generic format, which would be at least a step towards something more generic/standardized.
bootelf is really meant for the primary CPU. That would be an entirely different direction: Make all common boot commands "aux core" capable.
But I would strongly vote against that. First, those commands have already complex arguments and argument handling (e.g. bootm), and their implementation supports use cases which we hardly would ever use on aux cores (initramfs..).
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However, making this ad hoc command now
generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)We always try to avoid one-off hacks, so it's not weird. I still don't quite understand how it is a problem to abstract things out . I am not asking you to support CA, but to avoid CM specific implementation which cannot be extended to support CA or even MIPS/Nios2/etc .
Again, why would you support a Cortex-M class specific file format for MIPS/Nios2 etc...?
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bootaux is M4 specific. We can through it away, and start over, but then we should call the command differently.
Unless you look very carefully, it is not clear that it is cortex M4 specific at all based on this discussion. I was under the impression that the goal here was to support all sorts of secondary cores ...
Yeah it's also only that binary format handling which is M4 specific. And frankly, that is just 2 lines of code, basically dereferencing the first two words:
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
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In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
Uh, why, that does not make any sense to me. Both the random core in FPGA and the secondary CA9 core have almost the same bringup sequence. What is so different about this stuff ?
A cache coherent core and a non-cache coherent core remote core somewhere in the SoC is very much different IMHO.
Lets compare how you bring up a A class CPU, or cache coherent SMP style CPU in general:
1. Load code into RAM
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4. kick off the CPU by writing another architecture specific registerM class/remote CPU
1. Load code in RAM, depending on image format translate core specific memory map to host memory map
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3. (Potentially set up IOMMU, not in the NXP case though)
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From what I can see, everything is different other than "Load code in RAM" which is image specific. If the image format is complex, we certainly should factor that out to avoid code duplication.
Image format is usually binary blob or elf file, we support both. The rest is "load file to RAM, do magic setup (can be CPU specific), unreset CPU".
Loading files to RAM is already generic since it is handled by separate commands.
It is really the image handling which has the potential of reusability.
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
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So we already accepted a command which has shit commandline semantics and we're stuck with it , hrm. You can always specify a default core
Add shitty binary file format to the list.
Why do we care about this ? The CM just needs a vectoring table, so set it up (in the elf file or whatever) and point the core at the reset vector.
Not sure what you want to say here, but I guess we need to keep support for this file format for backward compatibility?
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index for those two iMX boards and it's done. Or just fix the semantics in their default environment, which is not awesome, but I doubt this is wildly used yet.
I guess my general point is, bootaux is already broken in two ways:
Command line interface does not allow for extensibility, the only format supported right now is a binary format which is not generic.My patchset was an attempt to improve the situation to give it at least a decent elf format support.
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Note that there is also bootelf, where the elf headers have been introduced. Reusing that command seems impractical since it is meant to boot on the primary CPU. My first attempt was reusing at least the load function, but it seemed impractical due to memory map translation and since the load function is rather short. If it helps for the acceptance of this patchset, I still could try to make that happen.
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Extending bootelf might indeed make more sense IMO. But that needs discussion.
There are two variants of reuse here:
1. Reuse the elf parsing and loading function (function load_elf_image_phdr in this case).
2. Reuse the bootelf command. This would need extending the command with some parameter to tell it to not boot the primary CPU but boot some other auxiliary processor.
Let's get a bit more concrete here, take bootelf as a case study:
1 would introduce the architecture specific translation callback load_elf_image_phdr (see my load_elf_image_phdr implementation in this patchset). For regular/primary boot we can implement a dummy 1:1 translation.
2 would need 1, and changes to do_bootelf. Since the command has already optional arguments adding core selection as an optional argument is not possible. But we could add a parameter, e.g. -c (core):
bootelf -c aux
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bootelf -c 1
The exact enumeration would have to be discussed. I guess this would also be architecture specific.
Adding the new parameter handling plus callbacks into architecture dependent code probably makes do_bootelf double in length. Also, half of the existing code cannot be reused: The call do_bootelf_exec is primary CPU specific, passing the arguments (this is likely not supported by remote cores) and the return code handling (since a remote core would not return), autostart handling, not sure?
2 would also need to either disable the section header functionality for the remote core, or we add another if in do_bootelf and avoid parsing section header even if requested...
Again, I strongly disfavor solution 2. That makes boot commands with image types we want to support even more complex. bootelf already starts to look ugly when I start implementing that, and bootelf is really one of the cleanest and simplest boot commands I have seen... I probably would give it a shot if this is the only way to bring elf format support for aux cores upstream... Good luck for the guy implementing FIT image support (bootm) for auxiliary cores :-D
1 we could do, and I would be willing to do it. I personally feel that the small code duplication is cleaner than reusing that function from cmd/elf.c and implementing the dummy 1:1 translation, but both works for me....
IMHO, commands are really lightweight and nice in U-Boot, I think we should make use of them, even when it means some namespace pollution.
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
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Also flush caches is not necessary on some cache coherent CPU's (depending on how your cache coherence between I and D cache looks like).
So SMP is just a reduced special-case of this , yes ?
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Or you can abstract things out ?
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There is one callback to arch for translation and one for cache flush, what more can I abstract out?
Well then I don't think I understand your concerns about cache flushing in SMP .
It makes things unnecessary slower.
You always have to flush cache if you expect the peripheral to read cached memory , so I don't think I understand your remark ...
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
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It seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then...
Based on that discussion, I only see that noone opposed, but I don't see any agreement.
Maybe I need to word my emails a bit stronger, but with that email I actually tried to oppose:
https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2016-January/240989.html
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Well, I do not like adding ad-hoc commands as it's not managable in the long run.
I argue that a remote core loading command is _much_ more manageable than making the bootm command even more complex by support SMP/remoteproc and whatnot usecases... I would even argue that a bunch of those commands are more manageable than a single ifdef/if hell....
I guess a boot* option to start remote core would do ?
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That said, I still would push for keeping the image processing code generic, whenever it makes sense.
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random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words)....I thought this command was starting the core by loading data to RAM , not flash ?
Ok, maybe I am a bit unclear here:
bootaux currently supports a Cortex-M specific binary format only. The binary format starts with a Cortex-M class vector table. The vector tables first vector is the "reset vector".
In a regular microcontroller, that binary gets flashed on a NOR flash which is mapped at
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So this is the history of the binary format. And my point here is, that the binary format supported by bootaux is _very_ Cortex-M class specific.
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Aha, so I now totally don't understand why this command cannot be fixed/extended to support other/generic cores or SMP systems etc. But looking at the initial proposal, I think maybe the intention of this patchset was not to add that support, but to fix the command to support loading ELF files ? We already have bootelf for that though ...
Yes, that is pretty much it. I would like to teach that command a more generic format, which would be at least a step towards something more generic/standardized.
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bootelf is really meant for the primary CPU. That would be an entirely different direction: Make all common boot commands "aux core" capable.
But I would strongly vote against that. First, those commands have already complex arguments and argument handling (e.g. bootm), and their implementation supports use cases which we hardly would ever use on aux cores (initramfs..).
That might need some further thinking/consolidation . IMO out of scope of this discussion ...
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However, making this ad hoc command now
generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)We always try to avoid one-off hacks, so it's not weird. I still don't quite understand how it is a problem to abstract things out . I am not asking you to support CA, but to avoid CM specific implementation which cannot be extended to support CA or even MIPS/Nios2/etc .
Again, why would you support a Cortex-M class specific file format for MIPS/Nios2 etc...?
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bootaux is M4 specific. We can through it away, and start over, but then we should call the command differently.
Unless you look very carefully, it is not clear that it is cortex M4 specific at all based on this discussion. I was under the impression that the goal here was to support all sorts of secondary cores ...
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
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In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
Uh, why, that does not make any sense to me. Both the random core in FPGA and the secondary CA9 core have almost the same bringup sequence. What is so different about this stuff ?
A cache coherent core and a non-cache coherent core remote core somewhere in the SoC is very much different IMHO.
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From what I can see, everything is different other than "Load code in RAM" which is image specific. If the image format is complex, we certainly should factor that out to avoid code duplication.
Image format is usually binary blob or elf file, we support both. The rest is "load file to RAM, do magic setup (can be CPU specific), unreset CPU".
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Loading files to RAM is already generic since it is handled by separate commands.
It is really the image handling which has the potential of reusability.
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
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Add shitty binary file format to the list.
Why do we care about this ? The CM just needs a vectoring table, so set it up (in the elf file or whatever) and point the core at the reset vector.
Not sure what you want to say here, but I guess we need to keep support for this file format for backward compatibility?
I guess so, I didn't look into the requirements for the CM4 core on MX6.
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index for those two iMX boards and it's done. Or just fix the semantics in their default environment, which is not awesome, but I doubt this is wildly used yet.
I guess my general point is, bootaux is already broken in two ways:
Command line interface does not allow for extensibility, the only format supported right now is a binary format which is not generic.My patchset was an attempt to improve the situation to give it at least a decent elf format support.
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Note that there is also bootelf, where the elf headers have been introduced. Reusing that command seems impractical since it is meant to boot on the primary CPU. My first attempt was reusing at least the load function, but it seemed impractical due to memory map translation and since the load function is rather short. If it helps for the acceptance of this patchset, I still could try to make that happen.
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Extending bootelf might indeed make more sense IMO. But that needs discussion.
There are two variants of reuse here:
1. Reuse the elf parsing and loading function (functionload_elf_image_phdrin this case).
2. Reuse the bootelf command. This would need extending the command with some parameter to tell it to not boot the primary CPU but boot some other auxiliary processor.Let's get a bit more concrete here, take bootelf as a case study:
1 would introduce the architecture specific translation callback
load_elf_image_phdr(see myload_elf_image_phdrimplementation in this patchset). For regular/primary boot we can implement a dummy 1:1 translation.2 would need 1, and changes to
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The exact enumeration would have to be discussed. I guess this would also be architecture specific.
Adding the new parameter handling plus callbacks into architecture dependent code probably makes
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Again, I strongly disfavor solution 2. That makes boot commands with image types we want to support even more complex. bootelf already starts to look ugly when I start implementing that, and bootelf is really one of the cleanest and simplest boot commands I have seen... I probably would give it a shot if this is the only way to bring elf format support for aux cores upstream... Good luck for the guy implementing FIT image support (bootm) for auxiliary cores :-D
So what is the problem with this ? Load the payload somewhere and ungate the secondary core , why is that so hard ?
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1 we could do, and I would be willing to do it. I personally feel that the small code duplication is cleaner than reusing that function from
cmd/elf.cand implementing the dummy 1:1 translation, but both works for me....IMHO, commands are really lightweight and nice in U-Boot, I think we should make use of them, even when it means some namespace pollution.
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Sure, it could be done. I just feel it is not the right design.
Auxiliary cores have usually a different view to memory, this is why I had to add the
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Well then I don't think I understand your concerns about cache flushing in SMP .
It makes things unnecessary slower.
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Creating a new command like bootaux comes with very few overhead.
The overhead is the new command, we already have many ad-hoc commands.
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It seemed to be acceptable to just add this ad hoc command, with some "random binary format" support back then...
Based on that discussion, I only see that noone opposed, but I don't see any agreement.
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Well, I do not like adding ad-hoc commands as it's not managable in the long run.
I argue that a remote core loading command is _much_ more manageable than making the bootm command even more complex by support SMP/remoteproc and whatnot usecases... I would even argue that a bunch of those commands are more manageable than a single ifdef/if hell....
I guess a boot* option to start remote core would do ?
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That said, I still would push for keeping the image processing code generic, whenever it makes sense.
Agreed
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Ok, it is not entirely
random, since it is the format of a binary how it ends up in microcontrollers execute in place flash (stack pointer and reset vector are the two first words)....I thought this command was starting the core by loading data to RAM , not flash ?
Ok, maybe I am a bit unclear here:
bootaux currently supports a Cortex-M specific binary format only. The binary format starts with a Cortex-M class vector table. The vector tables first vector is the "reset vector".
In a regular microcontroller, that binary gets flashed on a NOR flash which is mapped at
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So this is the history of the binary format. And my point here is, that the binary format supported by bootaux is _very_ Cortex-M class specific.
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Aha, so I now totally don't understand why this command cannot be fixed/extended to support other/generic cores or SMP systems etc. But looking at the initial proposal, I think maybe the intention of this patchset was not to add that support, but to fix the command to support loading ELF files ? We already have bootelf for that though ...
Yes, that is pretty much it. I would like to teach that command a more generic format, which would be at least a step towards something more generic/standardized.
bootelf is really meant for the primary CPU. That would be an entirely different direction: Make all common boot commands "aux core" capable.
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But I would strongly vote against that. First, those commands have already complex arguments and argument handling (e.g. bootm), and their implementation supports use cases which we hardly would ever use on aux cores (initramfs..).
That might need some further thinking/consolidation . IMO out of scope of this discussion ...
Outside of scope, but you need to take it in consideration when desciding which way to go with remote proc boot commands...
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However, making this ad hoc command now
generic really feels weird to me, since we would end up supporting that format for A class CPUs etc... bootaux is really suited for auxiliary M-class cores on ARM, as it is right now. Maybe we should have named it bootm ;-)We always try to avoid one-off hacks, so it's not weird. I still don't quite understand how it is a problem to abstract things out . I am not asking you to support CA, but to avoid CM specific implementation which cannot be extended to support CA or even MIPS/Nios2/etc .
Again, why would you support a Cortex-M class specific file format for MIPS/Nios2 etc...?
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bootaux is M4 specific. We can through it away, and start over, but then we should call the command differently.
Unless you look very carefully, it is not clear that it is cortex M4 specific at all based on this discussion. I was under the impression that the goal here was to support all sorts of secondary cores ...
Yeah it's also only that binary format handling which is M4 specific. And frankly, that is just 2 lines of code, basically dereferencing the first two words:
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This are the reasons why I feel creating a new command for a SMP boot case makes more sense. We can still reuse functions which are very similar by moving them into some common location, where it makes sense.
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Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
I am not familiar with that architecture, what kind of core does it provide which needs to be booted by U-Boot?
The secondary ARM core in the SoCFPGA C-A9 complex or Nios2 core in the FPGA.
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In my thinking, the Nios2 core seems like such a remote processor well suited for the bootaux command. For the secondary A9, I would create a new command.
Uh, why, that does not make any sense to me. Both the random core in FPGA and the secondary CA9 core have almost the same bringup sequence. What is so different about this stuff ?
A cache coherent core and a non-cache coherent core remote core somewhere in the SoC is very much different IMHO.
Lets compare how you bring up a A class CPU, or cache coherent SMP style CPU in general:
1. Load code into RAM
2. Some cache flushing might be necessary due to I/D-cache incoherency
3. Write entry point into some architecture specific register
4. kick off the CPU by writing another architecture specific registerM class/remote CPU
1. Load code in RAM, depending on image format translate core specific memory map to host memory map
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From what I can see, everything is different other than "Load code in RAM" which is image specific. If the image format is complex, we certainly should factor that out to avoid code duplication.
Image format is usually binary blob or elf file, we support both. The rest is "load file to RAM, do magic setup (can be CPU specific), unreset CPU".
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Loading files to RAM is already generic since it is handled by separate commands.
It is really the image handling which has the potential of reusability.
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If we want to support the two with the same command, we already have a first problem: How do we address them? Of course, we could add just a index or something, but this would already break backward compatibility of the bootaux command.
So we already accepted a command which has shit commandline semantics and we're stuck with it , hrm. You can always specify a default core
Add shitty binary file format to the list.
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Why do we care about this ? The CM just needs a vectoring table, so set it up (in the elf file or whatever) and point the core at the reset vector.
Not sure what you want to say here, but I guess we need to keep support for this file format for backward compatibility?
I guess so, I didn't look into the requirements for the CM4 core on MX6.
The only hard requirement the CPU has it needs a valid entry point, and of course, code to run. The binary format is otherwise pretty much independent of the hardware.
So the only reason to keep backward compatibility is because there are already users using the command. There is documentation etc...
That said, if your firmware relies on stack pointer being setup correctly, then your binary format should also be able to provide a valid stack pointer. The binary format has that since that is the way the initial reset vector on M class cores work. The elf and FIT image do not have these capabilities. However, setting up the SP as part of the firmware is rather easy, and the FreeRTOS BSP as offered by NXP does not make use of the preinitialized stack pointer and sets it up anyway...
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index for those two iMX boards and it's done. Or just fix the semantics in their default environment, which is not awesome, but I doubt this is wildly used yet.
I guess my general point is, bootaux is already broken in two ways:
Command line interface does not allow for extensibility, the only format supported right now is a binary format which is not generic.My patchset was an attempt to improve the situation to give it at least a decent elf format support.
Maybe this information was lost ... Lukasz ?!
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Note that there is also bootelf, where the elf headers have been introduced. Reusing that command seems impractical since it is meant to boot on the primary CPU. My first attempt was reusing at least the load function, but it seemed impractical due to memory map translation and since the load function is rather short. If it helps for the acceptance of this patchset, I still could try to make that happen.
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Extending bootelf might indeed make more sense IMO. But that needs discussion.
There are two variants of reuse here:
1. Reuse the elf parsing and loading function (functionload_elf_image_phdrin this case).
2. Reuse the bootelf command. This would need extending the command with some parameter to tell it to not boot the primary CPU but boot some other auxiliary processor.Let's get a bit more concrete here, take bootelf as a case study:
1 would introduce the architecture specific translation callback
load_elf_image_phdr(see myload_elf_image_phdrimplementation in this patchset). For regular/primary boot we can implement a dummy 1:1 translation.2 would need 1, and changes to
do_bootelf. Since the command has already optional arguments adding core selection as an optional argument is not possible. But we could add a parameter, e.g. -c (core):
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bootelf -c aux
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bootelf -c 1
Works for me ...
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The exact enumeration would have to be discussed. I guess this would also be architecture specific.
Adding the new parameter handling plus callbacks into architecture dependent code probably makes
do_bootelfdouble in length. Also, half of the existing code cannot be reused: The calldo_bootelf_execis primary CPU specific, passing the arguments (this is likely not supported by remote cores) and the return code handling (since a remote core would not return), autostart handling, not sure?
Here... see below
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2 would also need to either disable the section header functionality for the remote core, or we add another if in
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Again, I strongly disfavor solution 2. That makes boot commands with image types we want to support even more complex. bootelf already starts to look ugly when I start implementing that, and bootelf is really one of the cleanest and simplest boot commands I have seen... I probably would give it a shot if this is the only way to bring elf format support for aux cores upstream... Good luck for the guy implementing FIT image support (bootm) for auxiliary cores :-D
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So what is the problem with this ? Load the payload somewhere and ungate the secondary core , why is that so hard ?
Are you ignoring my arguments above on purpose? As I clearly showed, even bootelf has differences between a primary and a secondary/remote core... I don't expect that for bootm to be any different.
In fact, almost certainly there will be a lot more primary core/remote core distinctions to be made during the whole bootm command. bootm also supports cases which probably never make sense for a remote core (Android images, initramfs). Sure, hacking something up which works in a certain use-case is probably not a big deal, but to do it properly, you would have to check every image format, every corner case, and properly disambiguate between primary/auxilary core scenarios (otherwise you end up with "for me, bootm -c aux my.fit works, I don't know why your bootm -c your.uimg does not work!", sure you can just ignore that, but IMHO that is broken design, and just not user-friendly).
But then, I really couldn't care less since I am not interested in FIT image support for remote processors. My point is just that in bootm will be ugly and hard to properly support auxiliary cores. And I feel when bootm does not work well, and bootelf also is a bit bumpy, we probably should just not mix up primary core boot commands and auxilary core boot commands...
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1 we could do, and I would be willing to do it. I personally feel that the small code duplication is cleaner than reusing that function from
cmd/elf.cand implementing the dummy 1:1 translation, but both works for me....IMHO, commands are really lightweight and nice in U-Boot, I think we should make use of them, even when it means some namespace pollution.
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Hi Lukasz,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ##################################################
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done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #Quoted 8 lines
I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
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I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core. Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
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Admitedly, I didn't look at the patch, but if you want to boot ad-hoc cores, you can very well also boot secondary cores on the current CPU complex with the same command. Why not ?
Also, I think this might come useful when booting stuff like "Altera Sparrow" ...
This is one of already available use cases in my mind. That is why I do see the need to add generic approach here.
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Lukasz Majewski
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Hi Lukasz,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??
I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
We would kill two birds with one stone - IMX is supported from the very beginning and we do have generic code to extend it by other vendors.
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I don't know how FPGA
bistream loading typically works, but I guess it is quite different from loading a firmware into RAM/SRAM and flush caches...
FPGA quirks would be handled in arch/SoC specific code.
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I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it.
One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
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The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2
Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
- ./doc/README.dfutftp -> different images loading
- Andre's patch to load multiple binaries in SPL - [PATCH v3 00/19]
SPL: extend FIT loading support"
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
But this is all OK.
The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (arch/SoC) code would be executed.
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Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations.
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This would require some tiny arch specific code.
Yes, but in my rather small patchset (164 additional lines) this is actually almost the bulk of changes :-)
Yes, I fully understand you :-) - I do remember when I wanted to add 3 lines (polarity inversion) to IMX PWM subsystem some time ago ... :-)
Best regards,
�ukasz Majewski
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Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
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imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot supportarch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 filesQuoted 3 lines
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arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.hBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Best regards,
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ################################################## 88.3
KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311...
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One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
bootaux is currently IMX specific, and its currently supported binary format is M-class specific.
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Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
In OSS, you do not develop for the future. It gets developed when its here.
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
There are conceptual similarities between a car and a truck, still, they are likely manufactured in a different assembly line, probably by a different producer.
I guess in the end it really depends on where you draw the line: There are differences between loading code which will get executed by the primary code, loading code to execute explicitly on a SMP core, and loading code to execute on a remote processor.
The first case is already well supported, and we need to keep support backward compatibility.
The second case, IMHO, is a somewhat silly case: A SMP system usually gets driven by a single OS image, and that OS makes sure to initialize the cores (maybe with the help of firmware, such as the PSCI interface on ARM). There is no need for a boot loader command to execute a image on a secondary core explicitly...
The third case is probably a case where we could start think about unification efforts.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??
There is at least also bootz and bootelf.
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I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
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The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
Sure, mv arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c cmd/, there is the framework :-)
But this promotes the M class specific binary format to a generic format supported for all cores.
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I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
Extending bootm does not seem like a good idea. bootm is already rather complex, making it even more complex by supporting the auxiliary core case seems really not work well.
Also, bootm supports lots of features which you probably never would use or test on a remote core (e.g. initramfs etc...)
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Maybe it would better to:
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"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it.
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The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
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Are flexible, but very much U-Boot specific. And much more complex to support.
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
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But this is all OK.
The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (
arch/SoC) code would be executed.
So we go from a nacked binary loaded directly to the place it has been linked to, to a double wrapped firmware file...?
Not sure if user will appriciate that extra work and boot time. And developers the extra code.
Maybe in a perfect world that just works, because you know, FIT is generic, and elf is generic... But that is just not how it works in practice. The existing FIT code is rather complex, supports lots of corner cases. The elf code supports different header types... Loading the elf sections (which use M4 specific addressing) needs address translation to get to suitable host addresses...
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Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations.
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This would require some tiny arch specific code.
Yes, but in my rather small patchset (164 additional lines) this is actually almost the bulk of changes :-)
Yes, I fully understand you :-) - I do remember when I wanted to add 3 lines (polarity inversion) to IMX PWM subsystem some time ago ... :-)
Hehe, yeah that was a rather long episode.
It was a bit different, though, the core framework was already there, it was mostly about adopting a particular driver to that framework. Building a new framework is a bit more involved...
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Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
Stefan Agner (3):
imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot supportarch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 filesQuoted 3 lines
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arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.hBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ##################################################
88.3 KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
bootaux is currently IMX specific, and its currently supported binary format is M-class specific.
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Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
In OSS, you do not develop for the future. It gets developed when its here.
I cannot agree here. When you perceive threat then you prepare for it.
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
There are conceptual similarities between a car and a truck, still, they are likely manufactured in a different assembly line, probably by a different producer.
I guess in the end it really depends on where you draw the line: There are differences between loading code which will get executed by the primary code, loading code to execute explicitly on a SMP core, and loading code to execute on a remote processor.
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The first case is already well supported, and we need to keep support backward compatibility.
The second case, IMHO, is a somewhat silly case: A SMP system usually gets driven by a single OS image, and that OS makes sure to initialize the cores (maybe with the help of firmware, such as the PSCI interface on ARM). There is no need for a boot loader command to execute a image on a secondary core explicitly...
I do understand (and agree) with your point with SMP.
But, I do know at least one use case when somebody would like to start two binaries (those are bare metal programs, taking care of SoC setup, IPC, etc).
And maybe Linux with some FPGA based IP block already configured in u-boot.
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The third case is probably a case where we could start think about unification efforts.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
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Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??There is at least also bootz and bootelf.
I will reply to the other thread regarding bootelf.
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I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
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But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
Sure, mv
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.ccmd/, there is the framework :-)But this promotes the M class specific binary format to a generic format supported for all cores.
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We would kill two birds with one stone - IMX is supported from the very beginning and we do have generic code to extend it by other vendors.
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I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
Extending bootm does not seem like a good idea. bootm is already rather complex, making it even more complex by supporting the auxiliary core case seems really not work well.
Also, bootm supports lots of features which you probably never would use or test on a remote core (e.g. initramfs etc...)
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it. One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
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IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
Review
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
But this is all OK.
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The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (
arch/SoC) code would be executed.So we go from a nacked binary loaded directly to the place it has been linked to, to a double wrapped firmware file...?
We would have elf binary file embedded into FIT file, these would bring flexibility.
FIT support is in place (u-boot/spl).
In such a way you can use any binary in any format.
But I must admit that we are going off-topic here.....
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Not sure if user will appriciate that extra work and boot time. And developers the extra code.
Maybe in a perfect world that just works, because you know, FIT is generic, and elf is generic... But that is just not how it works in practice. The existing FIT code is rather complex, supports lots of corner cases. The elf code supports different header types... Loading the elf sections (which use M4 specific addressing) needs address translation to get to suitable host addresses...
Maybe I'm an idealist :-)
One analogy comes to my mind between linux and u-boot.
The proliferation of u-boot commands and linux board files. Why Linux spend tremendous resources to remove board files and switch to device tree?
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Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations.
This would require some tiny arch specific code.
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Yes, but in my rather small patchset (164 additional lines) this is actually almost the bulk of changes :-)
Yes, I fully understand you :-) - I do remember when I wanted to add 3 lines (polarity inversion) to IMX PWM subsystem some time ago ... :-)
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Hehe, yeah that was a rather long episode.
It was a bit different, though, the core framework was already there, it was mostly about adopting a particular driver to that framework. Building a new framework is a bit more involved...
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Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
Stefan Agner (3):
imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot supportarch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 filesQuoted 3 lines
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arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.hBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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(+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.deBest regards,
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Best regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ##################################################
88.3 KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
bootaux is currently IMX specific, and its currently supported binary format is M-class specific.
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Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
In OSS, you do not develop for the future. It gets developed when its here.
I cannot agree here. When you perceive threat then you prepare for it.
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
There are conceptual similarities between a car and a truck, still, they are likely manufactured in a different assembly line, probably by a different producer.
I guess in the end it really depends on where you draw the line: There are differences between loading code which will get executed by the primary code, loading code to execute explicitly on a SMP core, and loading code to execute on a remote processor.
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The first case is already well supported, and we need to keep support backward compatibility.
The second case, IMHO, is a somewhat silly case: A SMP system usually gets driven by a single OS image, and that OS makes sure to initialize the cores (maybe with the help of firmware, such as the PSCI interface on ARM). There is no need for a boot loader command to execute a image on a secondary core explicitly...
I do understand (and agree) with your point with SMP.
But, I do know at least one use case when somebody would like to start two binaries (those are bare metal programs, taking care of SoC setup, IPC, etc).
And maybe Linux with some FPGA based IP block already configured in u-boot.
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The third case is probably a case where we could start think about unification efforts.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
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Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??There is at least also bootz and bootelf.
I will reply to the other thread regarding bootelf.
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I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
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But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
Sure, mv
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.ccmd/, there is the framework :-)But this promotes the M class specific binary format to a generic format supported for all cores.
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We would kill two birds with one stone - IMX is supported from the very beginning and we do have generic code to extend it by other vendors.
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I don't know how FPGA
bistream loading typically works, but I guess it is quite different from loading a firmware into RAM/SRAM and flush caches...FPGA quirks would be handled in
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I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
Extending bootm does not seem like a good idea. bootm is already rather complex, making it even more complex by supporting the auxiliary core case seems really not work well.
Also, bootm supports lots of features which you probably never would use or test on a remote core (e.g. initramfs etc...)
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it. One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
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IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
Review
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-2- ./doc/README.dfutftp -> different images loading - Andre's patch to load multiple binaries in SPL - [PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support"Are flexible, but very much U-Boot specific. And much more complex to support.
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
But this is all OK.
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The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (
arch/SoC) code would be executed.So we go from a nacked binary loaded directly to the place it has been linked to, to a double wrapped firmware file...?
We would have elf binary file embedded into FIT file, these would bring flexibility.
FIT support is in place (u-boot/spl).
In such a way you can use any binary in any format.
But I must admit that we are going off-topic here.....
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Not sure if user will appriciate that extra work and boot time. And developers the extra code.
Maybe in a perfect world that just works, because you know, FIT is generic, and elf is generic... But that is just not how it works in practice. The existing FIT code is rather complex, supports lots of corner cases. The elf code supports different header types... Loading the elf sections (which use M4 specific addressing) needs address translation to get to suitable host addresses...
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Maybe I'm an idealist :-)
One analogy comes to my mind between linux and u-boot.
The proliferation of u-boot commands and linux board files. Why Linux spend tremendous resources to remove board files and switch to device tree?
I argue that is the right way of doing it: Do ad-hoc solutions, whatever makes sense, and once you understand the full breath of design space it is much easier to build a suitable framework. At that point, do the refactoring and build that suitable framework.
If you design a framework without the understanding of the whole design space, you will end up with something which does not work well and needs lots of work-arounds etc...
Of course, it is a bit different since both examples have outside facing impact (change to device tree as well as changes to U-Boot commands).
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Also all sections are translated to A7 addresses in order to properly load the firmware sections into the appropriate locations.
This would require some tiny arch specific code.
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Yes, but in my rather small patchset (164 additional lines) this is actually almost the bulk of changes :-)
Yes, I fully understand you :-) - I do remember when I wanted to add 3 lines (polarity inversion) to IMX PWM subsystem some time ago ... :-)
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Hehe, yeah that was a rather long episode.
It was a bit different, though, the core framework was already there, it was mostly about adopting a particular driver to that framework. Building a new framework is a bit more involved...
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Best regards,
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Also cache flushes is taken care of, so that there is no manual dcache flush necessary anymore.
The NXP FreeRTOS BSP already generates elf binaries which can be directly used with this elf binary support.
The last patch adds bootaux support for Vybrid.
Stefan Agner (3):
imx: imx-common: move aux core image parsing to common code
imx: imx-common: add elf firmware support
ARM: vf610: add auxiliary core boot supportarch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx6/soc.c | 30 +++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/mx7/soc.c | 34 ++++++--- arch/arm/cpu/armv7/vf610/generic.c | 42 +++++++++++ arch/arm/imx-common/Kconfig | 2 +- arch/arm/imx-common/Makefile | 4 +- arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++----- arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.h | 8 +++ arch/arm/include/asm/imx-common/sys_proto.h | 6 ++ configs/colibri_vf_defconfig | 1 + 9 filesQuoted 3 lines
changed, 198 insertions(+), 34 deletions(-) create mode 100644
arch/arm/include/asm/arch-vf610/sys_proto.hBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax:
(+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.deBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email:
wd at denx.deBest regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ##################################################
88.3 KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
bootaux is currently IMX specific, and its currently supported binary format is M-class specific.
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Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
In OSS, you do not develop for the future. It gets developed when its here.
I cannot agree here. When you perceive threat then you prepare for it.
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
There are conceptual similarities between a car and a truck, still, they are likely manufactured in a different assembly line, probably by a different producer.
I guess in the end it really depends on where you draw the line: There are differences between loading code which will get executed by the primary code, loading code to execute explicitly on a SMP core, and loading code to execute on a remote processor.
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The first case is already well supported, and we need to keep support backward compatibility.
The second case, IMHO, is a somewhat silly case: A SMP system usually gets driven by a single OS image, and that OS makes sure to initialize the cores (maybe with the help of firmware, such as the PSCI interface on ARM). There is no need for a boot loader command to execute a image on a secondary core explicitly...
I do understand (and agree) with your point with SMP.
But, I do know at least one use case when somebody would like to start two binaries (those are bare metal programs, taking care of SoC setup, IPC, etc).
And maybe Linux with some FPGA based IP block already configured in u-boot.
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The third case is probably a case where we could start think about unification efforts.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
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Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??There is at least also bootz and bootelf.
I will reply to the other thread regarding bootelf.
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I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
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But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
Sure, mv
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.ccmd/, there is the framework :-)But this promotes the M class specific binary format to a generic format supported for all cores.
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We would kill two birds with one stone - IMX is supported from the very beginning and we do have generic code to extend it by other vendors.
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I don't know how FPGA
bistream loading typically works, but I guess it is quite different from loading a firmware into RAM/SRAM and flush caches...FPGA quirks would be handled in
arch/SoCspecific code.Quoted 1 line
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I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
Extending bootm does not seem like a good idea. bootm is already rather complex, making it even more complex by supporting the auxiliary core case seems really not work well.
Also, bootm supports lots of features which you probably never would use or test on a remote core (e.g. initramfs etc...)
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it. One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
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IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
Review
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-2- ./doc/README.dfutftp -> different images loading - Andre's patch to load multiple binaries in SPL - [PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support"Are flexible, but very much U-Boot specific. And much more complex to support.
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
But this is all OK.
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The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (
arch/SoC) code would be executed.So we go from a nacked binary loaded directly to the place it has been linked to, to a double wrapped firmware file...?
We would have elf binary file embedded into FIT file, these would bring flexibility.
FIT support is in place (u-boot/spl).
In such a way you can use any binary in any format.
But I must admit that we are going off-topic here.....
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Not sure if user will appriciate that extra work and boot time. And developers the extra code.
Maybe in a perfect world that just works, because you know, FIT is generic, and elf is generic... But that is just not how it works in practice. The existing FIT code is rather complex, supports lots of corner cases. The elf code supports different header types... Loading the elf sections (which use M4 specific addressing) needs address translation to get to suitable host addresses...
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Maybe I'm an idealist :-)
One analogy comes to my mind between linux and u-boot.
The proliferation of u-boot commands and linux board files. Why Linux spend tremendous resources to remove board files and switch to device tree?
I argue that is the right way of doing it: Do ad-hoc solutions, whatever makes sense, and once you understand the full breath of design space it is much easier to build a suitable framework. At that point, do the refactoring and build that suitable framework.
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If you design a framework without the understanding of the whole design space, you will end up with something which does not work well and needs lots of work-arounds etc...
Of course, it is a bit different since both examples have outside facing impact (change to device tree as well as changes to U-Boot commands).
To ask the silly question, isn't cmd/remoteproc.c part of the proper framework for a solution here?
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Lukasz,
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is
192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading:
################################################## 88.3 KiB 5.4 MiB/s done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
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I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
bootaux is currently IMX specific, and its currently supported binary format is M-class specific.
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Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
In OSS, you do not develop for the future. It gets developed when its here.
I cannot agree here. When you perceive threat then you prepare for it.
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
There are conceptual similarities between a car and a truck, still, they are likely manufactured in a different assembly line, probably by a different producer.
I guess in the end it really depends on where you draw the line:
There are differences between loading code which will get executed by the primary code, loading code to execute explicitly on a SMP core, and loading code to execute on a remote processor.The first case is already well supported, and we need to keep support backward compatibility.
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The second case, IMHO, is a somewhat silly case: A SMP system usually gets driven by a single OS image, and that OS makes sure to initialize the cores (maybe with the help of firmware, such as the PSCI interface on ARM). There is no need for a boot loader command to execute a image on a secondary core explicitly...
I do understand (and agree) with your point with SMP.
But, I do know at least one use case when somebody would like to start two binaries (those are bare metal programs, taking care of SoC setup, IPC, etc).
And maybe Linux with some FPGA based IP block already configured in u-boot.
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The third case is probably a case where we could start think about unification efforts.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
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Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??There is at least also bootz and bootelf.
I will reply to the other thread regarding bootelf.
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I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
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But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
Sure, mv
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.ccmd/, there is the framework :-)But this promotes the M class specific binary format to a generic format supported for all cores.
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We would kill two birds with one stone - IMX is supported from the very beginning and we do have generic code to extend it by other vendors.
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I don't know how FPGA
bistream loading typically works, but I guess it is quite different from loading a firmware into RAM/SRAM and flush caches...FPGA quirks would be handled in
arch/SoCspecific code.Quoted 3 lines
I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
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With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
Extending bootm does not seem like a good idea. bootm is already rather complex, making it even more complex by supporting the auxiliary core case seems really not work well.
Also, bootm supports lots of features which you probably never would use or test on a remote core (e.g. initramfs etc...)
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it. One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
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IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
(quoted diff) +0
-2- ./doc/README.dfutftp -> different images loading - Andre's patch to load multiple binaries in SPL - [PATCH v3Quoted 2 lines
00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support"
Are flexible, but very much U-Boot specific. And much more complex to support.
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
But this is all OK.
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The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (
arch/SoC) code would be executed.So we go from a nacked binary loaded directly to the place it has been linked to, to a double wrapped firmware file...?
We would have elf binary file embedded into FIT file, these would bring flexibility.
FIT support is in place (u-boot/spl).
In such a way you can use any binary in any format.
But I must admit that we are going off-topic here.....
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Not sure if user will appriciate that extra work and boot time. And developers the extra code.
Maybe in a perfect world that just works, because you know, FIT is generic, and elf is generic... But that is just not how it works in practice. The existing FIT code is rather complex, supports lots of corner cases. The elf code supports different header types... Loading the elf sections (which use M4 specific addressing) needs address translation to get to suitable host addresses...
Quoted 8 lines
Maybe I'm an idealist :-)
One analogy comes to my mind between linux and u-boot.
The proliferation of u-boot commands and linux board files. Why Linux spend tremendous resources to remove board files and switch to device tree?
I argue that is the right way of doing it: Do ad-hoc solutions, whatever makes sense, and once you understand the full breath of design space it is much easier to build a suitable framework. At that point, do the refactoring and build that suitable framework.
If you design a framework without the understanding of the whole design space, you will end up with something which does not work well and needs lots of work-arounds etc...
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Of course, it is a bit different since both examples have outside facing impact (change to device tree as well as changes to U-Boot commands).
To ask the silly question, isn't
cmd/remoteproc.cpart of the proper framework for a solution here?
Yes, this seems like a solution :-). Thanks for pointing out.
Best regards,
Lukasz Majewski
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In reply to Tom RiniQuoted 284 lines · Tom Rini
Quoted 283 lines · Stefan Agner
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Stefan,
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Hi Lukasz,
Quoted 31 lines · Lukasz Majewski
Hi Stefan,
Thanks for your patch. Please allow me to share some ideas for improvements.
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From: Stefan Agner <[email protected]>
This patchset enables to boot elf binaries on secondary Cortex-M class cores available on i.MX 6SoloX/7Solo/7Dual. This makes handling and loading firmwares much more convinient since all information where the firmware has to be loaded to is contained in the elf headers. A typical usage looks like this:
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Colibri iMX7 # tftp ${loadaddr} firmware.elf && bootaux
${loadaddr} Using FEC0 device
TFTP from server 192.168.10.1; our IP address is 192.168.10.2 Filename 'firmware.elf'.
Load address:0x80800000
Loading: ##################################################
88.3 KiB 5.4 MiB/s
done
Bytes transferred = 90424 (16138 hex)
## Starting auxiliary core at0x1FFF8311... Colibri iMX7 #I can find some other platforms (not only IMX), which would benefit from this code - the generic 'bootaux' command.
One good example would to allow multiple binaries for different SoC Cores (e.g. 2x Cortex-A8) to be loaded and started by u-boot.
Quoted 6 lines
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Hence, I'm wondering if you could make those patches usable for other platforms as well?
I don't think that this is a good idea. bootaux is meant for auxiliary cores, which often use a different architecture and are not cache coherent (hence the cache flushes).
Quoted 7 lines
I do remember, that I saw similar "tiny" patch to add "just one" ad-hoc command to do the same (conceptually) for TI SoC floating on the u-boot mailing list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but bootaux is IMX specific and does work, which very likely, will be also required by other SoC vendors (TI's Sitara is also equipped with Cortex-M4 and PRUSS).
bootaux is currently IMX specific, and its currently supported binary format is M-class specific.
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Unification of such effort can save us all a lot of trouble in a very near future.
In OSS, you do not develop for the future. It gets developed when its here.
I cannot agree here. When you perceive threat then you prepare for it.
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Quoted 10 lines
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On SMP systems the main operating system normally starts the secondary core.
I think that there are some conceptual similarities between loading code to SMP core and Cortex M3. Of course some "tweaks" would be needed.
There are conceptual similarities between a car and a truck, still, they are likely manufactured in a different assembly line, probably by a different producer.
I guess in the end it really depends on where you draw the line: There are differences between loading code which will get executed by the primary code, loading code to execute explicitly on a SMP core, and loading code to execute on a remote processor.
Quoted 8 lines
The first case is already well supported, and we need to keep support backward compatibility.
The second case, IMHO, is a somewhat silly case: A SMP system usually gets driven by a single OS image, and that OS makes sure to initialize the cores (maybe with the help of firmware, such as the PSCI interface on ARM). There is no need for a boot loader command to execute a image on a secondary core explicitly...
I do understand (and agree) with your point with SMP.
But, I do know at least one use case when somebody would like to start two binaries (those are bare metal programs, taking care of SoC setup, IPC, etc).
And maybe Linux with some FPGA based IP block already configured in u-boot.
Quoted 8 lines
The third case is probably a case where we could start think about unification efforts.
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Otherwise, if you want to run them separately using U-Boot, maybe a new command such as bootsmp would be more suited.
Quoted 8 lines
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Hmm - I do think that it would be too much:
- bootm for generic single core
- bootaux for IMX
- bootsmp for SMP (on IMX/TI/RK?)
- boot?? for ??There is at least also bootz and bootelf.
I will reply to the other thread regarding bootelf.
Quoted 112 lines
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I would like to avoid adding new commands for doing conceptually the same work.
Even better, we could extend bootm to support the "multi binary" case too, but IMHO it would be also correct to have "bootaux" to handle generic binaries loading.
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Note that the bootaux command retrieved the entry point (PC) from the elf binary.
Could you make this code flexible enough to handle not only elf binaries, but also other data (e.g. FPGA bitstreams)?
The code of bootaux is rather small, I don't see much value into stuff boot code for other peripherals into it.
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But I'm not asking to write support for other vendor's SoC/use cases.
I'm just wondering if you could write generic command (framework) to support this use case and as an example add support for your IMX's Cortex-M3/4.
Sure, mv
arch/arm/imx-common/imx_bootaux.ccmd/, there is the framework :-)But this promotes the M class specific binary format to a generic format supported for all cores.
Quoted 11 lines
We would kill two birds with one stone - IMX is supported from the very beginning and we do have generic code to extend it by other vendors.
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I don't know how FPGA
bistream loading typically works, but I guess it is quite different from loading a firmware into RAM/SRAM and flush caches...FPGA quirks would be handled in
arch/SoCspecific code.Quoted 1 line
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I am not against reuse and unification, I just feel that this is not really a case where we gain much.
With generic "bootaux/bootm" command we can point other developers who would like to add such booting code to the already available framework.
Also, we would prevent other "ad-hoc" commands adding to u-boot.
Extending bootm does not seem like a good idea. bootm is already rather complex, making it even more complex by supporting the auxiliary core case seems really not work well.
Also, bootm supports lots of features which you probably never would use or test on a remote core (e.g. initramfs etc...)
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Maybe it would better to:
-------------------------Embrace those binaries into FIT file (*.itb)? And allow multiple binaries loading? I'm thinking of work similar to one already did by Andre Przywara for SPL:
"[PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support" posted on 31.03.2017?
In that way we would "open" many new use cases, and other platforms (e.g. FPGA's, TI, etc) could benefit from it. One solid use case is to load different Linux binaries (or/and bare metal programs) to different SoC cores.
The "meta data" (i.e. load address, data type, description), could be extracted from the FIT format (the code is already in u-boot).
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IMHO, this is very generic approach.
I did some experiments with using FIT images for auxiliary core firmware, however, it did not add a lot of advantage over using elf:
http://git.toradex.com/cgit/u-boot-toradex.git/commit/?h=2015.04-toradex-next&id=d1d416f272e840e8139aec911f89a70fe5523eb2Unfortunately, not all use cases allow using ELF format. FIT gives more flexibility:
Review
Quoted 4 lines
(quoted diff) +0
-2- ./doc/README.dfutftp -> different images loading - Andre's patch to load multiple binaries in SPL - [PATCH v3 00/19] SPL: extend FIT loading support"Are flexible, but very much U-Boot specific. And much more complex to support.
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Firmwares are already built and available in the elf file format. The Linux remoteproc framework, which is meant to handle this kind of cores too, supports elf firmware loading too, so supporting elf in U-Boot too is a nice alignment. Also using FIT adds an additional step when building firm wares...
But this is all OK.
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The ELF binary would be wrapped in FIT (with e.g. "elf" property, even 1 to 1 mapping). Then the 'bootaux/bootm' could parse ELF (which is also generic). And then some "IMX specific" (
arch/SoC) code would be executed.So we go from a nacked binary loaded directly to the place it has been linked to, to a double wrapped firmware file...?
We would have elf binary file embedded into FIT file, these would bring flexibility.
FIT support is in place (u-boot/spl).
In such a way you can use any binary in any format.
But I must admit that we are going off-topic here.....
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Not sure if user will appriciate that extra work and boot time. And developers the extra code.
Maybe in a perfect world that just works, because you know, FIT is generic, and elf is generic... But that is just not how it works in practice. The existing FIT code is rather complex, supports lots of corner cases. The elf code supports different header types... Loading the elf sections (which use M4 specific addressing) needs address translation to get to suitable host addresses...
Quoted 8 lines
Maybe I'm an idealist :-)
One analogy comes to my mind between linux and u-boot.
The proliferation of u-boot commands and linux board files. Why Linux spend tremendous resources to remove board files and switch to device tree?
I argue that is the right way of doing it: Do ad-hoc solutions, whatever makes sense, and once you understand the full breath of design space it is much easier to build a suitable framework. At that point, do the refactoring and build that suitable framework.
If you design a framework without the understanding of the whole design space, you will end up with something which does not work well and needs lots of work-arounds etc...
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Of course, it is a bit different since both examples have outside facing impact (change to device tree as well as changes to U-Boot commands).
To ask the silly question, isn't
cmd/remoteproc.cpart of the proper framework for a solution here?
Oh wow, wasn't aware of that.
Interestingly, this even got merged before bootaux! (remoteproc has been added September 2015, bootaux January 2016)...
The framework seems somewhat TI specific, e.g. there is no notion of load address. Not sure how well that will fit with the NXP requirements, but I will give it a shot.
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Stefan