core: add rule to dump packages' build order
PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
When debugging hidden dependencies, the build order is very important. Most notably, it is interesting to identify potential culprits.
Add a new top-level rule, show-biuld-order, that dumps all the packages in the order they would get built.
Note that there are a few differences with show-targets:
- more packages are reported, becasue show-targets does not report
host packages that have no prompt;
- the output is line-based, because we're using $(info $(1)); getting
a single output line like show-targets would require we use an
actual command, like printf '%s ' $(1); but that takes a lot of
time, while $(info $(1)) is almost instantaneous (the time to parse
the Makefiles);- rootfs targets are not reported.
--- Makefile | 2 ++ package/pkg-generic.mk | 3 +++ 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)
Makefile +2 -0
@@ -757,6 +757,8 @@ legal-info: dirs legal-info-clean legal-info-prepare $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES),$(p show-targets: @echo $(PACKAGES) $(TARGETS_ROOTFS) +show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) + graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log @install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR) $(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \
package/pkg-generic.mk +3 -0
@@ -737,6 +737,9 @@ $(1)-show-depends: $(1)-show-rdepends: @echo $$($(2)_RDEPENDENCIES) +$(1)-show-build-order: $$(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$$($(2)_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES)) + $$(info $(1)) + $(1)-graph-depends: graph-depends-requirements $(call pkg-graph-depends,$(1),--direct)
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
Quoted 46 lines · Yann E. MORIN
When debugging hidden dependencies, the build order is very important. Most notably, it is interesting to identify potential culprits.
Add a new top-level rule, show-biuld-order, that dumps all the packages in the order they would get built.
Note that there are a few differences with show-targets:
- more packages are reported, becasue show-targets does not report
host packages that have no prompt;- the output is line-based, because we're using $(info $(1)); getting
a single output line like show-targets would require we use an actual command, like printf '%s ' $(1); but that takes a lot of time, while $(info $(1)) is almost instantaneous (the time to parse the Makefiles);- rootfs targets are not reported.
Signed-off-by "Yann E. MORIN" <[email protected]>Cc Thomas Petazzoni <[email protected]>Cc Arnout Vandecappelle <[email protected]>Cc Peter Korsgaard <[email protected]>--- Makefile | 2 ++ package/pkg-generic.mk | 3 +++ 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)Makefile +2
-0@@ -757,6 +757,8 @@ legal-info: dirs legal-info-clean legal-info-prepare $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES),$(p show-targets: @echo $(PACKAGES) $(TARGETS_ROOTFS) +show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) + graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log @install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR) $(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \package/pkg-generic.mk +0
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package/pkg-generic.mk $(1)-show-depends: · line 742
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package/pkg-generic.mk +3
-0@@ -737,6 +737,9 @@ $(1)-show-depends: $(1)-show-rdepends: @echo $$($(2)_RDEPENDENCIES) +$(1)-show-build-order: $$(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$$($(2)_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES)) + $$(info $(1)) +
I don't like this...
IMO we already have way too many of these informational targets messing up
pkg-generic.mk. This is bad for two reasons:
- it makes the code more complicated, more difficult to understand what's going on int pkg-generic.mk;
- it's bad for performance. This adds 2000 rules to the make rules database, which makes the dependency resolution slower (even if this rule is not used). Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference, but it's all these extra rules that we've added over the years combined that make it slower. That said, there is probably some refactoring that could be done to make it less bad, so it's not too big of a factor.
But I wonder why you need this feature anyway. If you just build, you see the
build order as well, right? And if you don't want to see the actual build, you can do 'make -nk'. OK, it looks a lot nicer with this show-build-order target, but I wouldn't say it's very valuable.
Regards,
Arnout
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package/pkg-generic.mk +0
-0$(1)-graph-depends: graph-depends-requirements $(call pkg-graph-depends,$(1),--direct)
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
Arnout, All,
On 2017-04-03 12:10 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
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When debugging hidden dependencies, the build order is very important. Most notably, it is interesting to identify potential culprits.
Add a new top-level rule, show-biuld-order, that dumps all the packages in the order they would get built.
Note that there are a few differences with show-targets:
- more packages are reported, becasue show-targets does not report
host packages that have no prompt;- the output is line-based, because we're using $(info $(1)); getting
a single output line like show-targets would require we use an actual command, like printf '%s ' $(1); but that takes a lot of time, while $(info $(1)) is almost instantaneous (the time to parse the Makefiles);- rootfs targets are not reported.
Signed-off-by "Yann E. MORIN" <[email protected]>Cc Thomas Petazzoni <[email protected]>Cc Arnout Vandecappelle <[email protected]>Cc Peter Korsgaard <[email protected]>--- Makefile | 2 ++ package/pkg-generic.mk | 3 +++ 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)Makefile +2
-0@@ -757,6 +757,8 @@ legal-info: dirs legal-info-clean legal-info-prepare $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES),$(p show-targets: @echo $(PACKAGES) $(TARGETS_ROOTFS) +show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) + graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log @install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR) $(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \package/pkg-generic.mk +0
-0package/pkg-generic.mk $(1)-show-depends: · line 742
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package/pkg-generic.mk +3
-0@@ -737,6 +737,9 @@ $(1)-show-depends: $(1)-show-rdepends: @echo $$($(2)_RDEPENDENCIES) +$(1)-show-build-order: $$(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$$($(2)_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES)) + $$(info $(1)) +I don't like this...
IMO we already have way too many of these informational targets messing up
pkg-generic.mk. This is bad for two reasons:- it makes the code more complicated, more difficult to understand what's going on int pkg-generic.mk;
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- it's bad for performance. This adds 2000 rules to the make rules database, which makes the dependency resolution slower (even if this rule is not used). Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference, but it's all these extra rules that we've added over the years combined that make it slower. That said, there is probably some refactoring that could be done to make it less bad, so it's not too big of a factor.
Timing the run before/after this change does not yield a noticeable difference, tested with:
$ for((i=0;i<50;i++)); do
/usr/bin/time make CMD 2>&1 >/dev/null |head -n 1
donewith CMD = help, before and after the patch, and then with CMD = show-build-order (obviously, after the patch), and using the 'user' part of the timings:
Help, before Help, after Build order Mean 2.9612 2.9934 2.9716 Standard Error 0.00393456685 0.00505972492 0.00338496073 Mode 2.96 2.98 2.96 Median 2.96 2.98 2.97 First Quartile 2.94 2.97 2.96 Third Quartile 2.97 3.01 2.98 Variance 0.00077404081 0.00128004081 0.00057289795 Standard Deviation 0.02782158903 0.03577765806 0.02393528690 Kurtosis 0.84170374930 2.10366593785 1.32436717983 Skewness 0.95495029123 1.20563022139 0.44501404736 Range 0.12 0.19 0.13 Minimum 2.92 2.93 2.91 Maximum 3.04 3.12 3.04 Sum 148.06 149.67 148.58 Count 50 50 50
Hmm... ;-)
[ BTW, thanks libreoffice! ;-) ]
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But I wonder why you need this feature anyway. If you just build, you see the
build order as well, right?
Oh yeah, and I pay the price of a three-hour build, jsut to see the build order...
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And if you don't want to see the actual build, you can do 'make -nk'.
I hope you were kidding? For a config with 227 packages, this yields:
$ make -nk 2>&1 |wc -l
8459And I'm not doing the statistical analysis I did above, but a few runs give a runtime of ~5s. So it is a 66% overhead just for this, while the new rules add just about 1% overhead (30ms for 3s).
Plus, it requires non-trivial post-processing... :-(
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OK, it looks a lot nicer with this show-build-order target, but I wouldn't say it's very valuable.
Well, I've been tracking build-order issues for a while last WE, and believe me, I was very happy to be able to see the build order before I attempted a build, yes.
Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
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Arnout, All,
On 2017-04-03 12:10 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
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package/pkg-generic.mk $(1)-show-depends: · line 742
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+$(1)-show-build-order: $$(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$$($(2)_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES))
package/pkg-generic.mk +2
-0+ $$(info $(1)) +I don't like this...
IMO we already have way too many of these informational targets messing up
pkg-generic.mk. This is bad for two reasons:- it makes the code more complicated, more difficult to understand what's going on int pkg-generic.mk;
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- it's bad for performance. This adds 2000 rules to the make rules database, which makes the dependency resolution slower (even if this rule is not used). Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference, but it's all these extra rules that we've added over the years combined that make it slower. That said, there is probably some refactoring that could be done to make it less bad, so it's not too big of a factor.
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Timing the run before/after this change does not yield a noticeable difference
As I wrote: "Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference".
However, we have about a dozen rules like this, and added together they *do* make a noticable difference (I did a much less thorough benchmark; after removing all these one-shot rules that are not used in a normal build, a 'make -qp >/dev/null' became about 15% faster).
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, tested with:
$ for((i=0;i<50;i++)); do /usr/bin/time make CMD 2>&1 >/dev/null |head -n 1
What I'm interested in is the overhead of running make. We unfortunately don't
have a good target for that. 'make -q' after finishing a build is a nice approximation because it doesn't actually run the target-finalize step (as opposed to just 'make'). I usually use 'make -qp' because that's what's used by bash-completion and that is one of my big annoyances: accidentally typing TAB-TAB freezes the shell for almost 10 seconds.
'make help' isn't a bad approximation either. It doesn't evaluate the .stamp_*
files so it will be a bit faster than the real overhead.
Now, I repeat: adding this single thing is not a big deal. I just say we have
to be careful about adding things all the time that slow things down. We are very quickly approaching the speed of bitbake, and that is one of the main reasons I spit out OE the first time I used it...
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done
with CMD = help, before and after the patch, and then with CMD = show-build-order (obviously, after the patch), and using the 'user' part of the timings:
Help, before Help, after Build order Mean 2.9612 2.9934 2.9716
So, 1% slower. That's actually worse than I expected, but consistent with the
15% I measured after removing 15 similar targets.
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But I wonder why you need this feature anyway. If you just build, you see the
build order as well, right?Oh yeah, and I pay the price of a three-hour build, jsut to see the build order...
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And if you don't want to see the actual build, you can do 'make -nk'.
I hope you were kidding? For a config with 227 packages, this yields:
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$ make -nk 2>&1 |wc -l 8459And I'm not doing the statistical analysis I did above, but a few runs give a runtime of ~5s. So it is a 66% overhead just for this, while the new rules add just about 1% overhead (30ms for 3s).
Plus, it requires non-trivial post-processing... :-(
TERM=dumb make -nk 2>/dev/null | grep 'Configuring"' | cut -d ' ' -f 3-4
True, it's not trivial. But it's shorter than your patch :-) And indeed it's 4
times slower than 'make build-order'. But that's just 12 seconds for an allyesconfig. Is that really too much?
However, it turns out not to work :-( Any rule which contains $(MAKE) is still
going to be executed, and that will inevitably lead to errors, so any package that depends on a package that errors out will also not be executed.
So, I can think of no viable alternative, so there is no way to stop this patch :-)
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OK, it looks a lot nicer with this show-build-order target, but I wouldn't say it's very valuable.
Well, I've been tracking build-order issues for a while last WE, and believe me, I was very happy to be able to see the build order before I attempted a build, yes.
That's my biggest problem with this feature: I have no idea how to use it.
Could you add some explanation somewhere?
Regards,
Arnout
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
Hello,
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Well, I've been tracking build-order issues for a while last WE, and believe me, I was very happy to be able to see the build order before I attempted a build, yes.
That's my biggest problem with this feature: I have no idea how to use it.
Could you add some explanation somewhere?
Yann was tracking down the dc3dd failure. With some configurations it was building, with others not. So he was trying to figure which package that gets built before dc3dd causes the problem. For this, it was really nice to be able to load a configuration, and immediately see in which order packages would be built, and therefore which packages would be built before dc3dd, without having to do the build itself.
Does that explain better the use case for this?
Best regards,
Thomas
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
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Hello,
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Well, I've been tracking build-order issues for a while last WE, and believe me, I was very happy to be able to see the build order before I attempted a build, yes.
That's my biggest problem with this feature: I have no idea how to use it.
Could you add some explanation somewhere?
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Yann was tracking down the dc3dd failure. With some configurations it was building, with others not. So he was trying to figure which package that gets built before dc3dd causes the problem. For this, it was really nice to be able to load a configuration, and immediately see in which order packages would be built, and therefore which packages would be built before dc3dd, without having to do the build itself.
Does that explain better the use case for this?
Ack. Could you add that to the commit message while applying?
Regards,
Arnout
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Best regards,
Thomas
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
In reply to Arnout VandecappelleArnout, All,
On 2017-04-07 12:30 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
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- it's bad for performance. This adds 2000 rules to the make rules database, which makes the dependency resolution slower (even if this rule is not used). Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference, but it's all these extra rules that we've added over the years combined that make it slower. That said, there is probably some refactoring that could be done to make it less bad, so it's not too big of a factor.
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Timing the run before/after this change does not yield a noticeable difference
As I wrote: "Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference".
However, we have about a dozen rules like this, and added together they *do* make a noticable difference (I did a much less thorough benchmark; after removing all these one-shot rules that are not used in a normal build, a 'make -qp >/dev/null' became about 15% faster).
OK, adding features makes the stuff slower; that I do understand.
However, what I argue is that the overhead added by that one extra rule is negligible, relatively to the existing startup time.
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, tested with:
$ for((i=0;i<50;i++)); do /usr/bin/time make CMD 2>&1 >/dev/null |head -n 1What I'm interested in is the overhead of running make. We unfortunately don't
have a good target for that. 'make -q' after finishing a build is a nice approximation because it doesn't actually run the target-finalize step (as opposed to just 'make'). I usually use 'make -qp' because that's what's used by bash-completion and that is one of my big annoyances: accidentally typing TAB-TAB freezes the shell for almost 10 seconds.
~6s here... Yes, it is a bit annoying, when one _accidentally_ hit TAB-TAB. Accientatlly... ;-)
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'make help' isn't a bad approximation either. It doesn't evaluate the .stamp_*
files so it will be a bit faster than the real overhead.
To be clear: I too find the startup time really annoying, especially when it is so much longer thatn the actual comamnd, like:
make foo-patch
for a trivial package, takes more time during the startup that to do the actual extract and patch, even from a cache-cold tree.
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Now, I repeat: adding this single thing is not a big deal. I just say we have
to be careful about adding things all the time that slow things down. We are very quickly approaching the speed of bitbake, and that is one of the main reasons I spit out OE the first time I used it...
Eh... The startup tiem is annoying, but it is not awfull. Yet. Howeber, in my (arguably limited) experience of OE, the build time was much longer overall for a similar setup. So we still win AFAICS...
The only thing that would be a killer feature is TLPB (as long as it yields a correct build, of course).
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And if you don't want to see the actual build, you can do 'make -nk'.
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Plus, it requires non-trivial post-processing... :-(
TERM=dumb make -nk 2>/dev/null | grep 'Configuring"' | cut -d ' ' -f 3-4
True, it's not trivial. But it's shorter than your patch :-) And indeed it's 4
times slower than 'make build-order'. But that's just 12 seconds for an allyesconfig. Is that really too much?
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However, it turns out not to work :-( Any rule which contains $(MAKE) is still
going to be executed, and that will inevitably lead to errors, so any package that depends on a package that errors out will also not be executed.So, I can think of no viable alternative, so there is no way to stop this patch :-)
What about the following (just proof-of-concept):
Makefile +7 -0
@@ -759,6 +759,14 @@ show-targets: show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) +define show-build-order-deps +$(foreach p,$($(call UP PERCASE,$(1))_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES),\ +$(call show-build-order-deps -deps,$(p))) $(1) +endef + +show-build-order-2: + at ./toto $(foreach p,$ (PACKAGES),$(call
show-build-order-deps-deps,$(p)))
+
graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log
@install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR)
$(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \
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@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +#!/bin/bash + +# input on stdin: list of packages, each rpreceded by its +# direct dependencies; so, packages may be listed more than +# once, but at least the build order is gurranteed for the +# first occurence of each package. + +# We first output each item of the list on its own line. +# Then we number those lisnee. +# We sort by package name as first key, and on line number +# as second key. +# For each package, we keep only the first occurence, which +# is the one with the lowest line number. +# We re-sort on the line number. +# And eventually, we remove the line number and only keep +# the package name. + +# The output is thus the build order. + +printf "%s\n" "${@}" +|cat -n \ +|sort -k 2,2 -k 1,1n \ +|while read n p; do + if [ "${p}" != "${prev}" ]; then + printf "%d %s\n" "${n}" "${p}" + prev="${p}" + fi +done \ +|sort -n \ +|sed -r -e 's/^[[:digit:]]+ //'
This has the advantage that it adds a single rule, and the price of expansion is paid only when the rule is actually called.
Plus, the runtime is not worse than my initial solution.
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OK, it looks a lot nicer with this show-build-order target, but I wouldn't say it's very valuable.
Well, I've been tracking build-order issues for a while last WE, and believe me, I was very happy to be able to see the build order before I attempted a build, yes.
That's my biggest problem with this feature: I have no idea how to use it.
Could you add some explanation somewhere?
I hope the explanations from Thomas are enough? ;-)
Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
Arnout, All,
On 2017-04-07 21:24 +0200, Yann E. MORIN spake thusly:
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So, I can think of no viable alternative, so there is no way to stop this patch :-)
What about the following (just proof-of-concept):
Hmmm, it seems there was a bad copy-paste failure.
Here it is again:
Makefile +8 -0
@@ -759,6 +759,14 @@ show-targets: show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) +define show-build-order-deps + $(foreach p,$($(call UPPERCASE,$(1))_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES),\ + $(call show-build-order-deps-deps,$(p))) $(1) +endef + +show-build-order-2: + @./toto $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES),$(call show-build-order-deps-deps,$(p))) + graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log @install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR) $(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \
toto new file +30 -0
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +#!/bin/bash + +# input on stdin: list of packages, each rpreceded by its +# direct dependencies; so, packages may be listed more than +# once, but at least the build order is gurranteed for the +# first occurence of each package. + +# We first output each item of the list on its own line. +# Then we number those lines. +# We sort by package name as first key, and on line number +# as second key. +# For each package, we keep only the first occurence, which +# is the one with the lowest line number. +# We re-sort on the line number. +# And eventually, we remove the line number and only keep +# the package name. + +# The output is thus the build order. + +printf "%s\n" "${@}" +|cat -n \ +|sort -k 2,2 -k 1,1n \ +|while read n p; do + if [ "${p}" != "${prev}" ]; then + printf "%d %s\n" "${n}" "${p}" + prev="${p}" + fi +done \ +|sort -n \ +|sed -r -e 's/^[[:digit:]]+ //'
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PATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
In reply to Yann E. MORINQuoted 20 lines · Yann E. MORIN
Arnout, All,
On 2017-04-07 12:30 +0200, Arnout Vandecappelle spake thusly:
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- it's bad for performance. This adds 2000 rules to the make rules database, which makes the dependency resolution slower (even if this rule is not used). Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference, but it's all these extra rules that we've added over the years combined that make it slower. That said, there is probably some refactoring that could be done to make it less bad, so it's not too big of a factor.
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Timing the run before/after this change does not yield a noticeable difference
As I wrote: "Just this one extra rule doesn't make much of a difference".
However, we have about a dozen rules like this, and added together they *do* make a noticable difference (I did a much less thorough benchmark; after removing all these one-shot rules that are not used in a normal build, a 'make -qp >/dev/null' became about 15% faster).
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OK, adding features makes the stuff slower; that I do understand.
However, what I argue is that the overhead added by that one extra rule is negligible, relatively to the existing startup time.
Indeed, which is why I gave the patch my Reviewed-by.
My point is: we should be conservative about adding new per-package rules like
this. A single addition has negligible effect, but added together they do have an impact and they're turning us into bitbake.
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Now, I repeat: adding this single thing is not a big deal. I just say we have
to be careful about adding things all the time that slow things down. We are very quickly approaching the speed of bitbake, and that is one of the main reasons I spit out OE the first time I used it...Eh... The startup tiem is annoying, but it is not awfull. Yet. Howeber, in my (arguably limited) experience of OE, the build time was much longer overall for a similar setup. So we still win AFAICS...
The only thing that would be a killer feature is TLPB (as long as it yields a correct build, of course).
In my experience, there are two big reasons why an OE build is much slower:
1. A typical configuration is much bigger (more packages selected).
2. They do per-package staging in order to enable TLPB.
We still win on point 1, but since we're going towards PPS (and host and target
too), we're going to loose our advantage on point 2. Well, not entirely, because IIUC they have a pretty inefficient way of building the PPS so we might do better.
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And if you don't want to see the actual build, you can do 'make -nk'.
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Plus, it requires non-trivial post-processing... :-(
TERM=dumb make -nk 2>/dev/null | grep 'Configuring"' | cut -d ' ' -f 3-4
True, it's not trivial. But it's shorter than your patch :-) And indeed it's 4
times slower than 'make build-order'. But that's just 12 seconds for an allyesconfig. Is that really too much?
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However, it turns out not to work :-( Any rule which contains $(MAKE) is still
going to be executed, and that will inevitably lead to errors, so any package that depends on a package that errors out will also not be executed.So, I can think of no viable alternative, so there is no way to stop this patch :-)
What about the following (just proof-of-concept):
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Makefile +8
-0@@ -759,6 +759,14 @@ show-targets: show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) +define show-build-order-deps + $(foreach p,$($(call UPPERCASE,$(1))_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES),\ + $(call show-build-order-deps-deps,$(p))) $(1) +endef + +show-build-order-2: + @./toto $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES),$(call show-build-order-deps-deps,$(p))) + graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log @install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR) $(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \toto new file +20
-0@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +#!/bin/bash + +# input on stdin: list of packages, each rpreceded by its +# direct dependencies; so, packages may be listed more than +# once, but at least the build order is gurranteed for the +# first occurence of each package. + +# We first output each item of the list on its own line. +# Then we number those lines. +# We sort by package name as first key, and on line number +# as second key. +# For each package, we keep only the first occurence, which +# is the one with the lowest line number. +# We re-sort on the line number. +# And eventually, we remove the line number and only keep +# the package name. + +# The output is thus the build order. + +printf "%s\n" "${@}"
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toto new file +10
-0+|cat -n \ +|sort -k 2,2 -k 1,1n \ +|while read n p; do + if [ "${p}" != "${prev}" ]; then + printf "%d %s\n" "${n}" "${p}" + prev="${p}" + fi +done \ +|sort -n \ +|sed -r -e 's/^[[:digit:]]+ //'
OK, my first and main reason to reject the patch was that it made the code more
complicated. That bit is even worse (by an order of magnitude) in this proposal.
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This has the advantage that it adds a single rule, and the price of expansion is paid only when the rule is actually called.
Plus, the runtime is not worse than my initial solution.
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OK, it looks a lot nicer with this show-build-order target, but I wouldn't say it's very valuable.
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Well, I've been tracking build-order issues for a while last WE, and believe me, I was very happy to be able to see the build order before I attempted a build, yes.
That's my biggest problem with this feature: I have no idea how to use it.
Could you add some explanation somewhere?I hope the explanations from Thomas are enough? ;-)
Yep, as I replied to him: please add that to the commit message while applying.
Regards,
Arnout
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Hello,
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In my experience, there are two big reasons why an OE build is much slower:
1. A typical configuration is much bigger (more packages selected).
2. They do per-package staging in order to enable TLPB.
This point (2) is in fact not correct, at least according to what I understood. My colleague Alexandre can confirm, but apparently, per-package staging has only been very recently introduced in OE. And yes, top-level parallel build was causing some spurious build failures.
Alex, if you have more details, we're interested :)
Thanks,
Thomas
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Hi,
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In my experience, there are two big reasons why an OE build is much slower:
1. A typical configuration is much bigger (more packages selected).
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2. They do per-package staging in order to enable TLPB.
This point (2) is in fact not correct, at least according to what I understood. My colleague Alexandre can confirm, but apparently, per-package staging has only been very recently introduced in OE. And yes, top-level parallel build was causing some spurious build failures.
Alex, if you have more details, we're interested :)
I'd point to
http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=809746f56df4b91af014bf6a3f28997d6698ac78
It adds RSS (recipe specific sysroots) applied in january. Some issues are still being sorted out but it generally builds fine.
Regarding build time, I can point to that one which interestingly concludes that it doesn't add much to the build time (or more correctly that a simple optimisation made up for all the lost time):
http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=e02716ca29b744fde5a45dabe79fef11df772d92
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When debugging hidden dependencies, the build order is very important. Most notably, it is interesting to identify potential culprits.
Add a new top-level rule, show-biuld-order, that dumps all the packages
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in the order they would get built.
Note that there are a few differences with show-targets:
- more packages are reported, becasue show-targets does not report
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host packages that have no prompt;- the output is line-based, because we're using $(info $(1)); getting
a single output line like show-targets would require we use an actual command, like printf '%s ' $(1); but that takes a lot of time, while $(info $(1)) is almost instantaneous (the time to parse the Makefiles);- rootfs targets are not reported.
Signed-off-by "Yann E. MORIN" <[email protected]>
Regards,
Arnout
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Cc Thomas Petazzoni <[email protected]>Cc Arnout Vandecappelle <[email protected]>Cc Peter Korsgaard <[email protected]>--- Makefile | 2 ++ package/pkg-generic.mk | 3 +++ 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)Makefile +2
-0@@ -757,6 +757,8 @@ legal-info: dirs legal-info-clean legal-info-prepare $(foreach p,$(PACKAGES),$(p show-targets: @echo $(PACKAGES) $(TARGETS_ROOTFS) +show-build-order: $(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$(PACKAGES)) + graph-build: $(O)/build/build-time.log @install -d $(GRAPHS_DIR) $(foreach o,name build duration,./support/scripts/graph-build-time \package/pkg-generic.mk +3
-0@@ -737,6 +737,9 @@ $(1)-show-depends: $(1)-show-rdepends: @echo $$($(2)_RDEPENDENCIES) +$(1)-show-build-order: $$(patsubst %,%-show-build-order,$$($(2)_FINAL_ALL_DEPENDENCIES)) + $$(info $(1)) + $(1)-graph-depends: graph-depends-requirements $(call pkg-graph-depends,$(1),--direct)
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When debugging hidden dependencies, the build order is very important. Most notably, it is interesting to identify potential culprits.
Add a new top-level rule, show-biuld-order, that dumps all the packages
build
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in the order they would get built.
Note that there are a few differences with show-targets:
- more packages are reported, becasue show-targets does not report
because
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host packages that have no prompt;- the output is line-based, because we're using $(info $(1)); getting
a single output line like show-targets would require we use an actual command, like printf '%s ' $(1); but that takes a lot of time, while $(info $(1)) is almost instantaneous (the time to parse the Makefiles);
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- rootfs targets are not reported.
Signed-off-by "Yann E. MORIN" <[email protected]>
I've now actually started using this patch and it has a real benefit over
show-targets, because it shows all targets, not just the ones appearing in .config. Ideal if you need to find all host packages...
Perhaps now show-targets can be eliminated? It is not documented, it's only
used in graph-depends, and AFAICS from there it can easily be converted into show-build-order. Well, for that -show-build-order should be added to fs/common.mk but that's not rocket science :-)
Regards,
Arnout
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Thomas Petazzoni
AppliedPATCH 1/1 core: add rule to dump packages' build order
In reply to Yann E. MORINHello,
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When debugging hidden dependencies, the build order is very important. Most notably, it is interesting to identify potential culprits.
Add a new top-level rule, show-biuld-order, that dumps all the packages in the order they would get built.
Note that there are a few differences with show-targets:
- more packages are reported, becasue show-targets does not report
host packages that have no prompt;- the output is line-based, because we're using $(info $(1)); getting
a single output line like show-targets would require we use an actual command, like printf '%s ' $(1); but that takes a lot of time, while $(info $(1)) is almost instantaneous (the time to parse the Makefiles);- rootfs targets are not reported.
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Signed-off-by "Yann E. MORIN" <[email protected]>Cc Thomas Petazzoni <[email protected]>Cc Arnout Vandecappelle <[email protected]>Cc Peter Korsgaard <[email protected]>--- Makefile | 2 ++ package/pkg-generic.mk | 3 +++ 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)
Applied to master, thanks.
Thomas
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