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PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

I put a ifdef wrapper around the GDM access that was contentious. Please consider this for inclusion now.

policy/modules/system/locallogin.te +4 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/system/locallogin.te
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@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ role system_r types sulogin_t;
 #
 
 allow local_login_t self:capability { chown dac_override fowner fsetid kill setgid setuid sys_nice sys_resource sys_tty_config };
+dontaudit local_login_t self:capability net_admin;
 allow local_login_t self:process { setexec setrlimit setsched };
 allow local_login_t self:fd use;
 allow local_login_t self:fifo_file rw_fifo_file_perms;
@@ -237,6 +238,9 @@ fs_rw_tmpfs_chr_files(sulogin_t)
 files_read_etc_files(sulogin_t)
 
 auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)
 
 init_getpgid_script(sulogin_t)
 
policy/modules/contrib/policykit.te +4 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/policykit.te
===================================================================
@@ -87,6 +87,9 @@ domtrans_pattern(policykit_t, policykit_
 
 kernel_read_kernel_sysctls(policykit_t)
 kernel_read_system_state(policykit_t)
+fs_getattr_tmpfs(policykit_t)
+fs_getattr_cgroup(policykit_t)
+dev_read_urand(policykit_t)
 
 dev_read_urand(policykit_t)
 
@@ -101,6 +104,7 @@ auth_use_nsswitch(policykit_t)
 
 userdom_getattr_all_users(policykit_t)
 userdom_read_all_users_state(policykit_t)
+userdom_dbus_send_all_users(policykit_t)
 
 optional_policy(`
 	dbus_system_domain(policykit_t, policykit_exec_t)
policy/modules/contrib/dbus.te +6 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/dbus.te
===================================================================
@@ -96,6 +96,12 @@ corecmd_exec_shell(system_dbusd_t)
 dev_read_urand(system_dbusd_t)
 dev_read_sysfs(system_dbusd_t)
 
+ifdef(`init_systemd', `
+	# gdm3 causes system_dbusd_t to want this access
+	dev_rw_dri(system_dbusd_t)
+	dev_rw_input_dev(system_dbusd_t)
+')
+
 domain_use_interactive_fds(system_dbusd_t)
 domain_read_all_domains_state(system_dbusd_t)
 
policy/modules/system/authlogin.te +2 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/system/authlogin.te
===================================================================
@@ -105,6 +105,8 @@ files_list_etc(chkpwd_t)
 kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(chkpwd_t)
 # is_selinux_enabled
 kernel_read_system_state(chkpwd_t)
+selinux_get_enforce_mode(chkpwd_t)
+selinux_getattr_fs(chkpwd_t)
 
 domain_dontaudit_use_interactive_fds(chkpwd_t)
 
policy/modules/contrib/gpg.te +6 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/gpg.te
===================================================================
@@ -87,6 +87,7 @@ gpg_stream_connect_agent(gpg_t)
 domtrans_pattern(gpg_t, gpg_agent_exec_t, gpg_agent_t)
 domtrans_pattern(gpg_t, gpg_helper_exec_t, gpg_helper_t)
 
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(gpg_t)
 kernel_read_sysctl(gpg_t)
 # read /proc/cpuinfo
 kernel_read_system_state(gpg_t)
@@ -214,6 +215,11 @@ manage_sock_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, g
 manage_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_secret_t, gpg_secret_t)
 manage_lnk_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_secret_t, gpg_secret_t)
 
+xserver_sigchld_xdm(gpg_agent_t)
+dbus_system_bus_client(gpg_agent_t)
+auth_use_nsswitch(gpg_agent_t)
+xserver_read_user_xauth(gpg_agent_t)
+
 manage_dirs_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
 manage_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
 manage_sock_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
#1 lore raw

PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

On 21 Apr 2017 11:10 am, "Russell Coker via refpolicy" < [email protected]> wrote:

I put a ifdef wrapper around the GDM access that was contentious. Please consider this for inclusion now.

policy/modules/system/locallogin.te +0 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/system/locallogin.te
===================================================================
@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ role system_r types sulogin_t;
 #
 
 allow local_login_t self:capability { chown dac_override fowner fsetid

kill setgid setuid sys_nice sys_resource sys_tty_config }; +dontaudit local_login_t self:capability net_admin;
allow local_login_t self:process { setexec setrlimit setsched }; allow local_login_t self:fd use;
allow local_login_t self:fifo_file rw_fifo_file_perms;
@@ -237,6 +238,9 @@ fs_rw_tmpfs_chr_files(sulogin_t)
files_read_etc_files(sulogin_t)

auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

init_getpgid_script(sulogin_t)

policy/modules/contrib/policykit.te +4 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/policykit.te
===================================================================
@@ -87,6 +87,9 @@ domtrans_pattern(policykit_t, policykit_
 
 kernel_read_kernel_sysctls(policykit_t)
 kernel_read_system_state(policykit_t)
+fs_getattr_tmpfs(policykit_t)
+fs_getattr_cgroup(policykit_t)
+dev_read_urand(policykit_t)
 
 dev_read_urand(policykit_t)
 
@@ -101,6 +104,7 @@ auth_use_nsswitch(policykit_t)
 
 userdom_getattr_all_users(policykit_t)
 userdom_read_all_users_state(policykit_t)
+userdom_dbus_send_all_users(policykit_t)
 
 optional_policy(`
        dbus_system_domain(policykit_t, policykit_exec_t)
policy/modules/contrib/dbus.te +6 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/dbus.te
===================================================================
@@ -96,6 +96,12 @@ corecmd_exec_shell(system_dbusd_t)
 dev_read_urand(system_dbusd_t)
 dev_read_sysfs(system_dbusd_t)
 
+ifdef(`init_systemd', `
+       # gdm3 causes system_dbusd_t to want this access
+       dev_rw_dri(system_dbusd_t)
+       dev_rw_input_dev(system_dbusd_t)
+')
+
 domain_use_interactive_fds(system_dbusd_t)
 domain_read_all_domains_state(system_dbusd_t)
 
policy/modules/system/authlogin.te +2 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/system/authlogin.te
===================================================================
@@ -105,6 +105,8 @@ files_list_etc(chkpwd_t)
 kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(chkpwd_t)
 # is_selinux_enabled
 kernel_read_system_state(chkpwd_t)
+selinux_get_enforce_mode(chkpwd_t)
+selinux_getattr_fs(chkpwd_t)
 
 domain_dontaudit_use_interactive_fds(chkpwd_t)
 
policy/modules/contrib/gpg.te +6 -0
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/gpg.te
===================================================================
@@ -87,6 +87,7 @@ gpg_stream_connect_agent(gpg_t)
 domtrans_pattern(gpg_t, gpg_agent_exec_t, gpg_agent_t)
 domtrans_pattern(gpg_t, gpg_helper_exec_t, gpg_helper_t)
 
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(gpg_t)
 kernel_read_sysctl(gpg_t)
 # read /proc/cpuinfo
 kernel_read_system_state(gpg_t)
@@ -214,6 +215,11 @@ manage_sock_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, g
 manage_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_secret_t, gpg_secret_t)
 manage_lnk_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_secret_t, gpg_secret_t)
 
+xserver_sigchld_xdm(gpg_agent_t)
+dbus_system_bus_client(gpg_agent_t)
+auth_use_nsswitch(gpg_agent_t)
+xserver_read_user_xauth(gpg_agent_t)
+
 manage_dirs_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
 manage_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
 manage_sock_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)

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PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

Quoted 28 lines · Christian G?ttsche via refpolicy

On 21 Apr 2017 11:10 am, "Russell Coker via refpolicy" < refpolicy at oss.tresys.com> wrote:

I put a ifdef wrapper around the GDM access that was contentious. Please
consider this for inclusion now.

Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/system/locallogin.te
===================================================================

policy/modules/system/locallogin.te +0 -0
@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ role system_r types sulogin_t;
 #
 

allow local_login_t self:capability { chown dac_override fowner fsetid kill setgid setuid sys_nice sys_resource sys_tty_config }; +dontaudit local_login_t self:capability net_admin;
allow local_login_t self:process { setexec setrlimit setsched }; allow local_login_t self:fd use;
allow local_login_t self:fifo_file rw_fifo_file_perms;

policy/modules/system/locallogin.te +3 -0
@@ -237,6 +238,9 @@ fs_rw_tmpfs_chr_files(sulogin_t)
 files_read_etc_files(sulogin_t)
 
 auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)
 
Quoted 1 line

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows to set the SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the booleans interactively through the application...

Quoted 91 lines

init_getpgid_script(sulogin_t)

Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/policykit.te
===================================================================

policy/modules/contrib/policykit.te +4 -0
@@ -87,6 +87,9 @@ domtrans_pattern(policykit_t, policykit_
 
 kernel_read_kernel_sysctls(policykit_t)
 kernel_read_system_state(policykit_t)
+fs_getattr_tmpfs(policykit_t)
+fs_getattr_cgroup(policykit_t)
+dev_read_urand(policykit_t)
 
 dev_read_urand(policykit_t)
 
@@ -101,6 +104,7 @@ auth_use_nsswitch(policykit_t)
 
 userdom_getattr_all_users(policykit_t)
 userdom_read_all_users_state(policykit_t)
+userdom_dbus_send_all_users(policykit_t)
 

optional_policy(`
dbus_system_domain(policykit_t, policykit_exec_t)
Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/dbus.te
===================================================================

policy/modules/contrib/dbus.te +6 -0
@@ -96,6 +96,12 @@ corecmd_exec_shell(system_dbusd_t)
 dev_read_urand(system_dbusd_t)
 dev_read_sysfs(system_dbusd_t)
 
+ifdef(`init_systemd', `
+       # gdm3 causes system_dbusd_t to want this access
+       dev_rw_dri(system_dbusd_t)
+       dev_rw_input_dev(system_dbusd_t)
+')
+
 domain_use_interactive_fds(system_dbusd_t)
 domain_read_all_domains_state(system_dbusd_t)
 

Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/system/authlogin.te
===================================================================

policy/modules/system/authlogin.te +2 -0
@@ -105,6 +105,8 @@ files_list_etc(chkpwd_t)
 kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(chkpwd_t)
 # is_selinux_enabled
 kernel_read_system_state(chkpwd_t)
+selinux_get_enforce_mode(chkpwd_t)
+selinux_getattr_fs(chkpwd_t)
 
 domain_dontaudit_use_interactive_fds(chkpwd_t)
 

Index: refpolicy-2.20170421/policy/modules/contrib/gpg.te
===================================================================

policy/modules/contrib/gpg.te +6 -0
@@ -87,6 +87,7 @@ gpg_stream_connect_agent(gpg_t)
 domtrans_pattern(gpg_t, gpg_agent_exec_t, gpg_agent_t)
 domtrans_pattern(gpg_t, gpg_helper_exec_t, gpg_helper_t)
 
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(gpg_t)
 kernel_read_sysctl(gpg_t)
 # read /proc/cpuinfo
 kernel_read_system_state(gpg_t)
@@ -214,6 +215,11 @@ manage_sock_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, g
 manage_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_secret_t, gpg_secret_t)
 manage_lnk_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_secret_t, gpg_secret_t)
 
+xserver_sigchld_xdm(gpg_agent_t)
+dbus_system_bus_client(gpg_agent_t)
+auth_use_nsswitch(gpg_agent_t)
+xserver_read_user_xauth(gpg_agent_t)
+
 manage_dirs_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
 manage_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t)
 manage_sock_files_pattern(gpg_agent_t, gpg_agent_tmp_t,

gpg_agent_tmp_t)
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PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

Quoted 6 lines · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy
Quoted 6 lines

auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

(quoted diff) +3 -0
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)
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What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows to set the SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the booleans interactively through the application...

Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in the early boot process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without the first line, it is a login program.

The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to that then exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all deal with untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t are exposed to data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which allows sulogin to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to set booleans directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is intended to do without granting it access to destroy things (at least indirectly). If you don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I guess you could submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t for init if that's what you want.

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PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

Quoted 12 lines · Russell Coker via refpolicy
Quoted 11 lines · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy
Quoted 7 lines

auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

(quoted diff) +3 -0
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows to set the SELinux booleans!

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Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the booleans interactively through the application...

Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in the early boot process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without the first line, it is a login program.

I don't think its a login program from an authlogin perspective. It has no pam config here on fedora. There are no default contexts for sulogin

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The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to that then exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all deal with untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t are exposed to data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which allows sulogin to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to set booleans directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is intended to do without granting it access to destroy things (at least indirectly). If you don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I guess you could submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t for init if that's what you want.

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PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

Quoted 16 lines · Dominick Grift
Quoted 15 lines · Russell Coker via refpolicy
Quoted 13 lines · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy
Quoted 7 lines

auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

(quoted diff) +3 -0
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows to set the SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the booleans interactively through the application...

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Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in the early boot process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without the first line, it is a login program.

I don't think its a login program from an authlogin perspective. It has no pam config here on fedora. There are no default contexts for sulogin

Ok i might be wrong here with regard there not being default contexts. I do believe that it somehow uses default contexts but there does not seem to be a pam config here

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The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to that then exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all deal with untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t are exposed to data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which allows sulogin to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to set booleans directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is intended to do without granting it access to destroy things (at least indirectly). If you don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I guess you could submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t for init if that's what you want.

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PATCH 1/1 login related stuff take 2

It doesn't have a PAM configuration file for the simple reason that it doesn't use PAM...

I am now testing the other permissions, it should be easier and safer than just speculating on the possible behavior.

I getting a very different behavior!

Will get back shortly.

Regards,

Guido

Quoted 77 lines · Dominick Grift via refpolicy
Quoted 1 line · Dominick Grift

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:38:06PM +1000, Russell Coker via refpolicy

Quoted 1 line · wrote:
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:06:29 PM Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

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auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

(quoted diff) +3 -0
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows to

set the

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SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the

booleans

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interactively through the application...

Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in the

early boot

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process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without the

first line,

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it is a login program.

I don't think its a login program from an authlogin perspective. It

has no pam config here on fedora. There are no default contexts for sulogin

Ok i might be wrong here with regard there not being default contexts. I do believe that it somehow uses default contexts but there does not seem to be a pam config here

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The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to

that then

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exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all

deal with

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untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t are

exposed to

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data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which

allows sulogin

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to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to set

booleans

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directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is

intended to

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do without granting it access to destroy things (at least

indirectly). If you

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don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I guess

you could

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submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t for

init if

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that's what you want.

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It doesn't have a PAM configuration file for the simple reason that it doesn't use PAM...

And thus it is not a authlogin login program

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I am now testing the other permissions, it should be easier and safer than just speculating on the possible behavior.

I getting a very different behavior!

Will get back shortly.

Regards,

Guido

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auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

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+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows to

set the

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SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the

booleans

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interactively through the application...

Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in the

early boot

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process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without the

first line,

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it is a login program.

I don't think its a login program from an authlogin perspective. It

has no pam config here on fedora. There are no default contexts for sulogin

Ok i might be wrong here with regard there not being default contexts. I do believe that it somehow uses default contexts but there does not seem to be a pam config here

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The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to

that then

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exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all

deal with

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untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t are

exposed to

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data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which

allows sulogin

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to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to set

booleans

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directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is

intended to

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do without granting it access to destroy things (at least

indirectly). If you

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don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I guess

you could

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submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t for

init if

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that's what you want.

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I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow directly and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface call!

I am now checking the details...

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Quoted 1 line · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

It doesn't have a PAM configuration file for the simple reason that

it doesn't use PAM...

And thus it is not a authlogin login program

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I am now testing the other permissions, it should be easier and safer

than just speculating on the possible behavior.

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I getting a very different behavior!

Will get back shortly.

Regards,

Guido

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auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

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+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows

to

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set the

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SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the

booleans

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interactively through the application...

Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in

the

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early boot

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process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without

the

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first line,

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it is a login program.

I don't think its a login program from an authlogin perspective.

It

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has no pam config here on fedora. There are no default contexts for sulogin

Ok i might be wrong here with regard there not being default

contexts.

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I do believe that it somehow uses default contexts but there does

not

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seem to be a pam config here

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The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and

user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to

that then

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exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all

deal with

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untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t

are

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exposed to

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data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which

allows sulogin

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to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to

set

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booleans

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directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is

intended to

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do without granting it access to destroy things (at least

indirectly). If you

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don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I

guess

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you could

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submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t

for

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init if

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I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow directly and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface call!

I am now checking the details...

There seems to be bug though in refpolicy

in refpolicy sulogin seems to use an auto type transition to sysadm_t but , atleast in fedora, sulogin does actually look up default contexts

if you add system_r:sulogin_t:s0 sysadm_r:sysadm_t:s0 to contexts/users/sysadm_u then sulogin will try to manually transition to that context provided that it has the permisisons to do so.

So its not a authlogin login program but it is selinux aware

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It doesn't have a PAM configuration file for the simple reason that

it doesn't use PAM...

And thus it is not a authlogin login program

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I am now testing the other permissions, it should be easier and safer

than just speculating on the possible behavior.

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I getting a very different behavior!

Will get back shortly.

Regards,

Guido

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auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

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+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

They are dangerous permissions, especially the one that allows

to

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set the

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SELinux booleans!

Only the system administrator should be permitted to set the

booleans

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interactively through the application...

Sulogin only runs at the console when something goes wrong in

the

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early boot

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process, and the first thing it does is ask for a root password.

It's simply impossible for sulogin to do what it does without

the

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first line,

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it is a login program.

I don't think its a login program from an authlogin perspective.

It

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has no pam config here on fedora. There are no default contexts for sulogin

Ok i might be wrong here with regard there not being default

contexts.

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I do believe that it somehow uses default contexts but there does

not

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seem to be a pam config here

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The second is used by exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and

user_mail_domain among others. If we need to restrict access to

that then

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exim_t, lpr_t, boinc_t, mailman_cgi_t, and user_mail_domain all

deal with

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untrusted data. The domains exim_t, boinc_t, and mailman_cgi_t

are

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exposed to

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data from the Internet and have that access.

The policy currently has sysadm_shell_domtrans(sulogin_t) which

allows sulogin

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to execute "bash -c setsebool" or similar. So allowing it to

set

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booleans

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directly doesn't really change much.

There is simply no possibility to allow sulogin to do what it is

intended to

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do without granting it access to destroy things (at least

indirectly). If you

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don't want that then the only option is to remove sulogin. I

guess

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you could

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submit a patch with a boolean to deny executing sulogin_exec_t

for

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init if

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that's what you want.

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#10 lore raw

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In reply to Guido Trentalancia
Quoted 4 lines · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow directly and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface call!

I am now checking the details...

The interface auth_login_pgm_domain() does a lot more than providing PAM access. One could make a case for splitting it into 2 or 3 interfaces that perform different subsets of it's operations. If you think that is the case then please submit a patch to the list and we can discuss that.

But I don't think there's much benefit to trying to restrict a domain that can launch a shell as sysadm_t or unconfined_t.

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Hello again.

I am afraid, but after testing it, I have to confirm that the three debated permissions that you are trying to introduce (auth, kernel and selinux) are not needed for the normal functioning of sulogin (from util-linux): they are redundant and dangerous.

Regards,

Guido

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Quoted 1 line · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow

directly

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and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface call!

I am now checking the details...

The interface auth_login_pgm_domain() does a lot more than providing PAM
access. One could make a case for splitting it into 2 or 3 interfaces that
perform different subsets of it's operations. If you think that is the case
then please submit a patch to the list and we can discuss that.

But I don't think there's much benefit to trying to restrict a domain that can
launch a shell as sysadm_t or unconfined_t.

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Quoted 6 lines · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

Hello again.

I am afraid, but after testing it, I have to confirm that the three debated permissions that you are trying to introduce (auth, kernel and selinux) are not needed for the normal functioning of sulogin (from util-linux): they are redundant and dangerous.

Only the kernel_read_crypto_sysctls() might be needed. But I am still completing the test...

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Regards,

Guido

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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:47:35 PM Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

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I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow

directly

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and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface

call!

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I am now checking the details...

The interface auth_login_pgm_domain() does a lot more than providing PAM
access. One could make a case for splitting it into 2 or 3 interfaces that
perform different subsets of it's operations. If you think that is

the

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case
then please submit a patch to the list and we can discuss that.

But I don't think there's much benefit to trying to restrict a domain that can
launch a shell as sysadm_t or unconfined_t.

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Quoted 6 lines · Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

Hello again.

I am afraid, but after testing it, I have to confirm that the three debated permissions that you are trying to introduce (auth, kernel and selinux) are not needed for the normal functioning of sulogin (from util-linux): they are redundant and dangerous.

The kernel_read_crypto_sysctls() can be substituted by the safer kernel_read_sysctl() and it gets away with it...

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Regards,

Guido

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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:47:35 PM Guido Trentalancia via refpolicy

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I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow

directly

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and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface

call!

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I am now checking the details...

The interface auth_login_pgm_domain() does a lot more than providing PAM
access. One could make a case for splitting it into 2 or 3 interfaces that
perform different subsets of it's operations. If you think that is

the

Quoted 6 lines

case
then please submit a patch to the list and we can discuss that.

But I don't think there's much benefit to trying to restrict a domain that can
launch a shell as sysadm_t or unconfined_t.

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Hello again.

[...]

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The kernel_read_crypto_sysctls() can be substituted by the safer kernel_read_sysctl() and it gets away with it...

Actually, I think I was wrong on the latter!

Because it looks for the "fips_enabled" sysctl, so it is better if it founds it, because otherwise there might be side-effects.

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Regards,

Guido

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I confirm that such auth permission is not needed. It uses shadow

directly

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and it already has the appropriate auth_read_shadow() interface

call!

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I am now checking the details...

The interface auth_login_pgm_domain() does a lot more than providing PAM
access. One could make a case for splitting it into 2 or 3

interfaces

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that
perform different subsets of it's operations. If you think that is

the

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case
then please submit a patch to the list and we can discuss that.

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But I don't think there's much benefit to trying to restrict a domain that can
launch a shell as sysadm_t or unconfined_t.

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auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

(quoted diff) +3 -0
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

Just the sulogin program.

Can you please configure your MUA to put "> " at the start of every quoted line? It makes it very difficult to read if you don't differentate the quoted text from what you write.

If necessary just type "> " at the start of every line you quote.

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Hello again.

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auth_read_shadow(sulogin_t)

(quoted diff) +3 -0
+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

Just the sulogin program.

I also have the sulogin program, it comes from sysvinit, but it doesn't require the above dangerous permissions...

Sounds like a non-standard sulogin which does wrong things, things that it shouldn't be doing because they are not related to its job.

Where does your sulogin program come from?

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Can you please configure your MUA to put "> " at the start of every quoted
line? It makes it very difficult to read if you don't differentate the quoted
text from what you write.

If necessary just type "> " at the start of every line you quote.

I read the message from Christian correctly. There is no line separation between quoted and non-quoted text, but apart from that the quoted text appears correctly marked. Strange problem...

Regards,

Guido

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+auth_login_pgm_domain(sulogin_t)
+kernel_read_crypto_sysctls(sulogin_t)
+selinux_set_generic_booleans(sulogin_t)

What usage need this access?

Just the sulogin program.

I also have the sulogin program, it comes from sysvinit, but it doesn't require the above dangerous permissions...

Mine comes from util-linux.

Again I don't think there's a benefit in stopping sulogin from doing things directly when it is permitted to run "sh -c setsebool" for the same result.

If you were going to try and exploit sulogin would you try and trick the executable into using the SE Linux API calls or would you aim for system("setsebool...")?

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Can you please configure your MUA to put "> " at the start of every quoted
line? It makes it very difficult to read if you don't differentate the quoted
text from what you write.

If necessary just type "> " at the start of every line you quote.

I read the message from Christian correctly. There is no line separation between quoted and non-quoted text, but apart from that the quoted text appears correctly marked. Strange problem...

Maybe you are reading the HTML version.

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