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v3 cover Introduce Security Version to EFI Stub

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

For more details: https://github.com/lcp/shim/wiki/Security-Version

The original idea is to add a new PE/COFF section to store the data. However, there are some restrictions.

1. For x86, the size limit of the EFI header is 0x200, and a section entry in the section table takes 40 bytes. Currently, the EFI header already occupies the first 0x1da bytes, so there is no room for a new section entry.

2. The MemoryAttributes table sets the attributes of memory pages according to the section flags. For ARM64, the minimal granularity is 4KB, but Security Version only needs a few bytes, and it's pointless to allocate 4KB for it.

Fortunately, there is a special section defined in PE/COFF: resource section. The only known user of the resource section in UEFI is the HII protocol which fetches data from "HII" directory. For Security Version, a new directory called "LinuxSV" is created and it contains the file offset to the struct of Security Version. The bootloader just follows the resource table to fetch the "version" from the image file.

v3:
- Move everything to the resource section to be compatible with both x86 and ARM64
v2:
- Decrease the size of secdata_offset to 2 bytes since the setup header is limited to around 32KB.
- Restructure the secdata section. The signer is now a null-terminated string. The type of distro_version changes to u32 in case the distro uses a long version.
- Modify the Kconfig names and add help.
- Remove the signer name hack in build.c.

Cc "H. Peter Anvin" <[email protected]>
Cc Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>
Cc Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]>
Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
Cc Matt Fleming <[email protected]>
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Joey Lee <[email protected]>

Gary Lin (2):
x86/efi: Introduce Security Version to x86
arm64/efi: Introduce Security Version to ARM64

 arch/arm64/kernel/efi-header.S | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/x86/boot/header.S         | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig   | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 3 files changed, 152 insertions(+)
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#1 lore raw

RFC PATCH v3 1/2 x86/efi: Introduce Security Version to x86

Security Version is a mechanism based on UEFI Secure Boot to keep the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. It's a monotonically increasing number representing how "secure" the kernel is. The distro kernel maintainer has to specify the distro name (signer) and the distro version to distinguish the distro kernel among other kernel images. When a critical vulnerability is fixed, the maintainer bumps Security Version, and the bootloader (e.g. shim) records the Security Version in a UEFI BootService variable. If the user tries to load a kernel with a lower Security Version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt, and the user decides whether to boot the kernel or not.

For the better portability, Security Version utilizes the resource section(*) of PE/COFF to locate the struct of Security Version. The resource section is a read-only section to index data in a binary-sorted tree structure. The Windows images stores the resource data in a three levels struture. For simplicity, we only use one level for Security Version. A directory called "LinuxSV" is created and it contains the offset to the struct of Security Version. The bootloader just follows the resource table to fetch the details.

The struct of Security Version can be presented as the following:

struct sv_hdr {
	__u16 header_length;
	__u16 security_version;
	__u32 distro_version;
} __attribute__((packed));

char *signer;

It consists of a fixed size structure and a null-terminated string. "header_length" is the size of "struct sv_hdr". It's also used as a kind of the "header version" in case a new member is introduced later.

(*) PE Format: The .rsrc Section

    https://msdn.microsoft.com/zh-tw/library/windows/desktop/ms680547(v=vs.85).aspx#the_.rsrc_section
Cc "H. Peter Anvin" <[email protected]>
Cc Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>
Cc Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]>
Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
Cc Matt Fleming <[email protected]>
Cc Joey Lee <[email protected]>
---
 arch/x86/boot/header.S       | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 95 insertions(+)
arch/x86/boot/header.S +55 -0
index 850b8762e889..dc1b80b29478 100644
@@ -188,7 +188,12 @@ extra_header_fields:
 
 	.quad	0				# ExportTable
 	.quad	0				# ImportTable
+#ifdef CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	.long	rsrc_table			# ResourceTable
+	.long	rsrc_table_size
+#else
 	.quad	0				# ResourceTable
+#endif
 	.quad	0				# ExceptionTable
 	.quad	0				# CertificationTable
 	.quad	0				# BaseRelocationTable
@@ -634,3 +639,53 @@ die:
 setup_corrupt:
 	.byte	7
 	.string	"No setup signature found...\n"
+
+#ifdef CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+# Resource Table
+	.section ".rodata", "a", @progbits
+	.align	2
+rsrc_table:
+	# Resource Directory
+	.long	0				# Characteristics
+	.long	0				# TimeDateStamp
+	.short	0				# MajorVersion
+	.short	0				# MinorVersion
+	.short	1				# NumberOfNamedEntries
+	.short	0				# NumberOfIdEntries
+
+	# Resource Directory Entry
+	.long	name_offset | 0x80000000	# NameOffset:31
+						# NameIsString:1
+	.long	rsrc_data_entry - rsrc_table	# OffsetToData
+
+	.set	name_offset, . - rsrc_table
+	# Resource Directory String
+	.short	7				# Length
+	.short	0x4C00				# 'L'
+	.short	0x6900				# 'i'
+	.short	0x6E00				# 'n'
+	.short	0x7500				# 'u'
+	.short	0x7800				# 'x'
+	.short	0x5300				# 'S'
+	.short	0x5600				# 'V'
+
+	.set	svdata_entry_offset, . - rsrc_table
+	# Resource Data Entry
+rsrc_data_entry:
+	.long	svdata_begin			# OffsetToData
+	.long	svdata_end - svdata_begin	# Size
+	.long	0				# CodePage
+	.long	0				# Reserved
+
+	.set	rsrc_table_size, . - rsrc_table
+
+	# Security Version
+svdata_begin:
+	.short	sv_signer - svdata_begin
+	.short	CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION
+	.long	CONFIG_DISTRO_VERSION
+sv_signer:
+	.string	CONFIG_SIGNER_NAME
+svdata_end:
+
+#endif /* CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT */
drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig +40 -0
index 2b4c39fdfa91..1dd82f1dd094 100644
@@ -161,6 +161,46 @@ config RESET_ATTACK_MITIGATION
 	  still contains secrets in RAM, booting another OS and extracting the
 	  secrets.
 
+menuconfig SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	bool "Security Version Support" if EFI_STUB
+	help
+	   The security version is the number defined by the distribution
+	   to indicate the critical security fixes. The bootloader could
+	   maintain a list of the security versions of the current kernels.
+	   After fixing a severe vulnerability in the kernel, the distribution
+	   bumps the security version to notify the bootloader to update
+	   the list. If the user tries to load a kernel with a smaller security
+	   version, the bootloadr could show a warning to the user to avoid
+	   a vulnerable kernel from being loaded accidentally.
+
+	   This is mainly designed for the distribution kernel maintainer.
+	   Say N if you don't know what it is.
+
+
+config SIGNER_NAME
+	string "Signer Name" if SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	depends on EFI && X86
+	default ""
+	help
+	   This option specifies who signs or releases this kernel.
+
+config DISTRO_VERSION
+	int "Distribution Version" if SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	depends on EFI && X86
+	default 0
+	range 0 4294967295
+	help
+	  This option specifies the distribution version which this
+	  kernel belongs to.
+
+config SECURITY_VERSION
+	int "Security Version" if SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	depends on EFI && X86
+	default 0
+	range 0 65535
+	help
+	   This option specifies the security version of this kernel.
+
 endmenu
 
 config UEFI_CPER
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#2 lore raw

RFC PATCH v3 2/2 arm64/efi: Introduce Security Version to ARM64

In reply to Gary Lin

This commit introduces Security Version for ARM64. As in x86, it utilizes the resource section defined in the PE/COFF format(*) to locate the struct of Security Version.

Similar to the debug table, the resource table is stored in .init.rodata section while the struct of Security Version is in the 4K padding area of the EFI header.

(*) PE Format: The .rsrc Section

    https://msdn.microsoft.com/zh-tw/library/windows/desktop/ms680547(v=vs.85).aspx#the_.rsrc_section
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Matt Fleming <[email protected]>
Cc Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]>
Cc Joey Lee <[email protected]>
---
 arch/arm64/kernel/efi-header.S | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig   |  6 ++---
 2 files changed, 60 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/kernel/efi-header.S +57 -0
index 613fc3000677..f4404db6ca5c 100644
@@ -61,7 +61,12 @@ extra_header_fields:
 
 	.quad	0					// ExportTable
 	.quad	0					// ImportTable
+#ifdef CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	.long	rsrc_table - _head			// ResourceTable
+	.long	rsrc_table_size
+#else
 	.quad	0					// ResourceTable
+#endif
 	.quad	0					// ExceptionTable
 	.quad	0					// CertificationTable
 	.quad	0					// BaseRelocationTable
@@ -103,6 +108,58 @@ section_table:
 
 	.set	section_count, (. - section_table) / 40
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
+	/*
+	 * Resource Table
+	 */
+	__INITRODATA
+
+	.align	2
+rsrc_table:
+	// Resource Directory
+	.long	0					// Characteristics
+	.long	0					// TimeDateStamp
+	.short	0					// MajorVersion
+	.short	0					// MinorVersion
+	.short	1					// NumberOfNamedEntries
+	.short	0					// NumberOfIdEntries
+
+	// Resource Directory Entry
+	.long	name_offset | 0x80000000		// NameOffset:31
+							// NameIsString:1
+	.long	rsrc_data_entry - rsrc_table		// OffsetToData
+
+	.set	name_offset, . - rsrc_table
+	// Resource Directory String
+	.short	7					// Length
+	.short	0x4C00					// 'L'
+	.short	0x6900					// 'i'
+	.short	0x6E00					// 'n'
+	.short	0x7500					// 'u'
+	.short	0x7800					// 'x'
+	.short	0x5300					// 'S'
+	.short	0x5600					// 'V'
+
+	// Resource Data Entry
+rsrc_data_entry:
+	.long	svdata_begin - _head			// OffsetToData
+	.long	svdata_end - svdata_begin		// Size
+	.long	0					// CodePage
+	.long	0					// Reserved
+
+	.set	rsrc_table_size, . - rsrc_table
+	.previous
+
+	// Security Version
+svdata_begin:
+	.short	sv_signer - svdata_begin
+	.short	CONFIG_SECURITY_VERSION
+	.long	CONFIG_DISTRO_VERSION
+sv_signer:
+	.string	CONFIG_SIGNER_NAME
+svdata_end:
+#endif
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_EFI
 	/*
 	 * The debug table is referenced via its Relative Virtual Address (RVA),
drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig +3 -3
index 1dd82f1dd094..3cad8d63897e 100644
@@ -179,14 +179,14 @@ menuconfig SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
 
 config SIGNER_NAME
 	string "Signer Name" if SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
-	depends on EFI && X86
+	depends on EFI && (X86 || ARM64)
 	default ""
 	help
 	   This option specifies who signs or releases this kernel.
 
 config DISTRO_VERSION
 	int "Distribution Version" if SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
-	depends on EFI && X86
+	depends on EFI && (X86 || ARM64)
 	default 0
 	range 0 4294967295
 	help
@@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ config DISTRO_VERSION
 
 config SECURITY_VERSION
 	int "Security Version" if SECURITY_VERSION_SUPPORT
-	depends on EFI && X86
+	depends on EFI && (X86 || ARM64)
 	default 0
 	range 0 65535
 	help
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Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

josh

Quoted 60 lines

For more details: https://github.com/lcp/shim/wiki/Security-Version

The original idea is to add a new PE/COFF section to store the data. However, there are some restrictions.

1. For x86, the size limit of the EFI header is 0x200, and a section entry in the section table takes 40 bytes. Currently, the EFI header already occupies the first 0x1da bytes, so there is no room for a new section entry.

2. The MemoryAttributes table sets the attributes of memory pages according to the section flags. For ARM64, the minimal granularity is 4KB, but Security Version only needs a few bytes, and it's pointless to allocate 4KB for it.

Fortunately, there is a special section defined in PE/COFF: resource section. The only known user of the resource section in UEFI is the HII protocol which fetches data from "HII" directory. For Security Version, a new directory called "LinuxSV" is created and it contains the file offset to the struct of Security Version. The bootloader just follows the resource table to fetch the "version" from the image file.

v3:
- Move everything to the resource section to be compatible with both x86 and ARM64
v2:
- Decrease the size of secdata_offset to 2 bytes since the setup header is limited to around 32KB.
- Restructure the secdata section. The signer is now a null-terminated string. The type of distro_version changes to u32 in case the distro uses a long version.
- Modify the Kconfig names and add help.
- Remove the signer name hack in build.c.

Cc "H. Peter Anvin" <[email protected]>
Cc Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>
Cc Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]>
Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
Cc Matt Fleming <[email protected]>
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Joey Lee <[email protected]>

Gary Lin (2):
x86/efi: Introduce Security Version to x86
arm64/efi: Introduce Security Version to ARM64

 arch/arm64/kernel/efi-header.S | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/x86/boot/header.S         | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig   | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 3 files changed, 152 insertions(+)

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#4 lore raw
Quoted 21 lines · Josh Boyer
Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

Quoted 2 lines

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

Since Security Version is meant to be a warning, not a hard block, we can introduce a timeout to the warning prompt if necessary. The system still boots, but with a longer boot time.

Gary Lin

Quoted 63 lines

josh

Quoted 60 lines

For more details: https://github.com/lcp/shim/wiki/Security-Version

The original idea is to add a new PE/COFF section to store the data. However, there are some restrictions.

1. For x86, the size limit of the EFI header is 0x200, and a section entry in the section table takes 40 bytes. Currently, the EFI header already occupies the first 0x1da bytes, so there is no room for a new section entry.

2. The MemoryAttributes table sets the attributes of memory pages according to the section flags. For ARM64, the minimal granularity is 4KB, but Security Version only needs a few bytes, and it's pointless to allocate 4KB for it.

Fortunately, there is a special section defined in PE/COFF: resource section. The only known user of the resource section in UEFI is the HII protocol which fetches data from "HII" directory. For Security Version, a new directory called "LinuxSV" is created and it contains the file offset to the struct of Security Version. The bootloader just follows the resource table to fetch the "version" from the image file.

v3:
- Move everything to the resource section to be compatible with both x86 and ARM64
v2:
- Decrease the size of secdata_offset to 2 bytes since the setup header is limited to around 32KB.
- Restructure the secdata section. The signer is now a null-terminated string. The type of distro_version changes to u32 in case the distro uses a long version.
- Modify the Kconfig names and add help.
- Remove the signer name hack in build.c.

Cc "H. Peter Anvin" <[email protected]>
Cc Thomas Gleixner <[email protected]>
Cc Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]>
Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
Cc Matt Fleming <[email protected]>
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Joey Lee <[email protected]>

Gary Lin (2):
x86/efi: Introduce Security Version to x86
arm64/efi: Introduce Security Version to ARM64

 arch/arm64/kernel/efi-header.S | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 arch/x86/boot/header.S         | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 drivers/firmware/efi/Kconfig   | 40 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 3 files changed, 152 insertions(+)

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#5 lore raw
Quoted 22 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 21 lines · Josh Boyer
Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

Thanks,

Ingo

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#6 lore raw
Quoted 25 lines · Ingo Molnar
Quoted 22 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 21 lines · Josh Boyer
Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 5 lines
Quoted 2 lines

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

Cheers,

Gary Lin

#7 lore raw
Quoted 28 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 27 lines · Ingo Molnar
Quoted 24 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 23 lines · Josh Boyer
Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 6 lines
Quoted 3 lines

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

What about systems where the bootloader is part of the system and users only have the ability to provide kernel images, but no ability to change the boot loader?

Thanks,

Ingo

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#8 lore raw
Quoted 35 lines · Ingo Molnar
Quoted 32 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 31 lines · Ingo Molnar
Quoted 27 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 21 lines · Josh Boyer
Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

Quoted 2 lines

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

What about systems where the bootloader is part of the system and users only have the ability to provide kernel images, but no ability to change the boot loader?

It depends on how the bootloader works. If the system uses my implementation of shim loader, it surely has the ability to lower SV, but it requires physical access on purpose.

The Security Version check is a warning rather than a hard block like the signature check. The current plan is to add an extra check in the shim verify protocol, so that we can check SV right after the signature check. I'm thinking about adding a UEFI variable to control the timeout of the warning prompt, e.g. 30 for 30 seconds and 0 for waiting indefinitely, so that the warning prompt won't block the system boot unless the system administrator wants so.

As for other bootloaders, SV is just a few extra bytes in the kernel image and means nothing to them.

Cheers,

Gary Lin

#9 lore raw
Quoted 41 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 40 lines · Ingo Molnar
Quoted 36 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 25 lines · Ingo Molnar
Quoted 22 lines · Gary Lin
Quoted 21 lines · Josh Boyer
Quoted 10 lines · Gary Lin

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

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I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

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What about systems where the bootloader is part of the system and users only have the ability to provide kernel images, but no ability to change the boot loader?

It depends on how the bootloader works. If the system uses my implementation of shim loader, it surely has the ability to lower SV, but it requires physical access on purpose.

And that's my problem: if in practice the bootloader is 'part of the system', is signed and is updated like the firmware, then putting a "Security Version" into the kernel image and architecting a boot protocol for a monotonic method for the bootloader to restrict the loading of kernel images is an obviously bad idea.

Thanks,

Ingo

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The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

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If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

What about systems where the bootloader is part of the system and users only have the ability to provide kernel images, but no ability to change the boot loader?

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It depends on how the bootloader works. If the system uses my implementation of shim loader, it surely has the ability to lower SV, but it requires physical access on purpose.

And that's my problem: if in practice the bootloader is 'part of the system', is signed and is updated like the firmware, then putting a "Security Version" into the kernel image and architecting a boot protocol for a monotonic method for the bootloader to restrict the loading of kernel images is an obviously bad idea.

Even though the bootloader doesn't actually block the booting?

If the bootloader loads a kernel with lower SV, by default, the warning prompt lasts for 30 seconds, and the system continues booting if the user doesn't intervene. For the paranoid user, a variable can be set to make the bootloader wait forever. Is it acceptable?

Thanks,

Gary Lin

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The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

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I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

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And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

What about systems where the bootloader is part of the system and users only have the ability to provide kernel images, but no ability to change the boot loader?

It depends on how the bootloader works. If the system uses my implementation of shim loader, it surely has the ability to lower SV, but it requires physical access on purpose.

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And that's my problem: if in practice the bootloader is 'part of the system', is signed and is updated like the firmware, then putting a "Security Version" into the kernel image and architecting a boot protocol for a monotonic method for the bootloader to restrict the loading of kernel images is an obviously bad idea.

Even though the bootloader doesn't actually block the booting?

We don't know that for sure, in that scenario *how* the bootloader interprets the SV is not under the user's control...

Thanks,

Ingo

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The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically. When the user tries to load a kernel with a lower security version, the bootloader shows a warning prompt to notify the user the potential risk.

If a distribution releases a kernel with a higher security version and that it automatically updated on boot, what happens if that kernel contains a different bug that causes it to fail to boot or break critical functionality? At that point, the user's machine would be in a state where the higher security version is enforced but the only kernel that provides that is broken. Wouldn't that make a bad situation even worse by now requiring manual acceptance of the older SV kernel boot physically at the machine?

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I feel like I'm missing a detail here or something.

If the new kernel fails to boot, then the user has to choose the kernel manually anyway, and there will be an option in the warning prompt to lower SV.

And what if the firmware does not support a lowering of the SV?

The SV list is manipulated by the bootloader, and the firmware only provides the interface to the storage, i.e. non-volatile flash.

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What about systems where the bootloader is part of the system and users only have the ability to provide kernel images, but no ability to change the boot loader?

It depends on how the bootloader works. If the system uses my implementation of shim loader, it surely has the ability to lower SV, but it requires physical access on purpose.

And that's my problem: if in practice the bootloader is 'part of the system', is signed and is updated like the firmware, then putting a "Security Version" into the kernel image and architecting a boot protocol for a monotonic method for the bootloader to restrict the loading of kernel images is an obviously bad idea.

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Even though the bootloader doesn't actually block the booting?

We don't know that for sure, in that scenario *how* the bootloader interprets the SV is not under the user's control...

OK, it seems the implementation in shim brings up some concern. I'll discuss with my colleagues for other possible solutions.

Cheers,

Gary Lin

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Quoted 8 lines · On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:01:46 +0800 Gary Lin <[email protected]> wrote:

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically.

This seems a mindbogglingly complicated way to implement something you could do with a trivial script in the package that updates the list of iffy kernels and when generating the new grub.conf puts them in a menu of 'old insecure' kernels.

Why do you even need this in the EFI stub ?

What happens if you want to invalidate an old kernel but not push a new one ? Today if you've got a package that maintains the list of 'iffy' kernels you can push a tiny package, under your scheme you've got to push new kernels which is an un-necessary and high risk OS change.

It just feels like an attempt to solve the problem in completely the wrong place.

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Quoted 8 lines · On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:01:46 +0800 Gary Lin <[email protected]> wrote:

The series of patches introduce Security Version to EFI stub.

Security Version is a monotonically increasing number and designed to prevent the user from loading an insecure kernel accidentally. The bootloader maintains a list of security versions corresponding to different distributions. After fixing a critical vulnerability, the distribution kernel maintainer bumps the "version", and the bootloader updates the list automatically.

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This seems a mindbogglingly complicated way to implement something you could do with a trivial script in the package that updates the list of iffy kernels and when generating the new grub.conf puts them in a menu of 'old insecure' kernels.

Ya, a menu for those kernels is also a kind of warning to the users. Thanks for pointing the direction.

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Why do you even need this in the EFI stub ?

For 2 reasons.

1. We want the version number being unalterable. In a system with UEFI Secure Boot, the signature appended to the kernel guarantees that the version number is genuine.

2. For the cross-architecture support. Since the version number could be anywhere in the image file, we need at least a offset to point to the version number. That's why I choose the resource section/table in the EFI header. It exists as long as the EFI stub exists. The design of the directory allows different data stored separately.

If there is a better place for the version number, I'd be glad to adopt it.

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What happens if you want to invalidate an old kernel but not push a new one ? Today if you've got a package that maintains the list of 'iffy' kernels you can push a tiny package, under your scheme you've got to push new kernels which is an un-necessary and high risk OS change.

The idea is that the security version only bumps only when it's really necessary. For example, the new kernel fixes a severe bug that invalidates the signature check of the modules. Or, the distro makes an official release and would like to obsolete the alpha/beta/RC kernel. Anyway, it depends on the distro policy.

Actually, our main target is only for the enterprise server, and the kernel update path is relatively simple. Since it may bring some confusion in a multi-boot system, we are currently not planning to enable SV for the community distro, i.e. openSUSE.

Thanks,

Gary Lin