NOARP devices and NOARP arp_cache entires
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Hi
I'm seeing some weird behavior related to NOARP devices and NOARP entries in the arp cache.
I have a couple gre tunnels between a linux box and a upstream router that send/recv a large amount of packets with unique ips. On the order of 10k+ unique ips per second seen by the linux box.
Each one of the ips ends up getting added to the arp cache as
<ip> dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP
This of course makes the arp cache grow extremely fast and overflow. While I can tweak gc_thresh1/2/3 to make arp cache size huge, it doesn't seem like the right answer as the kernel is spinning its wheels having to adding/expunging entries for the high rate of unique ips.
I'm unclear why the kernel is even tracking them in the arp cache. If routing table says to route the packet out a NOARP interface then there is no arp, why involve the arp cache at all?
You can see the behavior with the following
[root@jwestfall:~]# uname -a Linux jwestfall.jwestfall.net 4.14.10_1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 31 20:23:29 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[root@jwestfall:~]# ip neigh show nud noarp 10.0.0.172 dev lo lladdr 00:00:00:00:00:00 NOARP 10.70.50.5 dev tun0 lladdr 08 NOARP 127.0.0.1 dev lo lladdr 00:00:00:00:00:00 NOARP
Setup a bogus gre tunnel, the remote ip doesn't matter
[root@jwestfall:~]# ip tunnel add tun1234 mode gre local 10.0.0.172 remote 10.0.0.156 dev enp4s0 [root@jwestfall:~]# ip link set up dev tun1234
Route a bogus network to the tunnel
[root@jwestfall:~]# ip route add 192.168.111.0/24 dev tun1234
Ping ips on the bogus network
[root@jwestfall:~]# nmap -sP 192.168.111.0/24
Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2018-01-11 12:06 PST
...
[root@jwestfall:~]# ip neigh show nud noarp 192.168.111.18 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.4 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.28 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.17 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.14 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.34 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.3 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.20 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 10.0.0.172 dev lo lladdr 00:00:00:00:00:00 NOARP 192.168.111.6 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.27 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.13 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.33 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP ...
Also somewhat interesting is that on older kernels (3.2 time range) these NOARP entries didn't get added for ipv4, but they did for ipv6 if you pushed ipv6 through the ipv4 tunnel.
2804:14c:f281:a1d8:61a2:a30:989f:3eb1 dev tun1 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 2607:8400:2122:4:e9f9:dbb8:2d44:75d1 dev tun2 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP
Thanks
Jim Westfall
Jim Westfall <[email protected]> wrote [01.11.18]:
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Hi
I'm seeing some weird behavior related to NOARP devices and NOARP entries in the arp cache.
I have a couple gre tunnels between a linux box and a upstream router that send/recv a large amount of packets with unique ips. On the order of 10k+ unique ips per second seen by the linux box.
Each one of the ips ends up getting added to the arp cache as
<ip> dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP
This of course makes the arp cache grow extremely fast and overflow. While I can tweak gc_thresh1/2/3 to make arp cache size huge, it doesn't seem like the right answer as the kernel is spinning its wheels having to adding/expunging entries for the high rate of unique ips.
I'm unclear why the kernel is even tracking them in the arp cache. If routing table says to route the packet out a NOARP interface then there is no arp, why involve the arp cache at all?
You can see the behavior with the following
[root@jwestfall:~]# uname -a Linux jwestfall.jwestfall.net 4.14.10_1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 31 20:23:29 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux[root@jwestfall:~]# ip neigh show nud noarp 10.0.0.172 dev lo lladdr 00:00:00:00:00:00 NOARP 10.70.50.5 dev tun0 lladdr 08 NOARP 127.0.0.1 dev lo lladdr 00:00:00:00:00:00 NOARPSetup a bogus gre tunnel, the remote ip doesn't matter
[root@jwestfall:~]# ip tunnel add tun1234 mode gre local 10.0.0.172 remote 10.0.0.156 dev enp4s0 [root@jwestfall:~]# ip link set up dev tun1234Route a bogus network to the tunnel
[root@jwestfall:~]# ip route add 192.168.111.0/24 dev tun1234Ping ips on the bogus network
[root@jwestfall:~]# nmap -sP 192.168.111.0/24Starting Nmap 7.60 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2018-01-11 12:06 PST
...[root@jwestfall:~]# ip neigh show nud noarp 192.168.111.18 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.4 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.28 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.17 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.14 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.34 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.3 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.20 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 10.0.0.172 dev lo lladdr 00:00:00:00:00:00 NOARP 192.168.111.6 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.27 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.13 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 192.168.111.33 dev tun1234 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP ...Also somewhat interesting is that on older kernels (3.2 time range) these NOARP entries didn't get added for ipv4, but they did for ipv6 if you pushed ipv6 through the ipv4 tunnel.
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2804:14c:f281:a1d8:61a2:a30:989f:3eb1 dev tun1 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP 2607:8400:2122:4:e9f9:dbb8:2d44:75d1 dev tun2 lladdr 0.0.0.0 NOARP
Thanks
Jim Westfall
Digging into this a bit in older kernels there was the following
static struct neighbour *ipv4_neigh_lookup(const struct dst_entry *dst, const void *daddr)
{
static const __be32 inaddr_any = 0;
struct net_device *dev = dst->dev;
const __be32 *pkey = daddr;
struct neighbour *n;
if (dev->flags & (IFF_LOOPBACK | IFF_POINTOPOINT))
pkey = &inaddr_any;which was forcing the hash key to be 0.0.0.0 for tunnels. This was removed as part of a263b3093641fb1ec377582c90986a7fd0625184 which was part of a larger set that "Disconnect neigh from dst_entry"
Would there be any aversion to me submitting a patch to mimic this older behavior?
Thanks
jim