vmalloc with GFP_NOFS
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who perform GFP_NOFS allocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.cfs/ext4/xattr.cfs/gfs2/dir.cfs/gfs2/quota.cfs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.cfs/ubifs/debug.cfs/ubifs/lprops.cfs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cfs/ubifs/orphan.c
Unfortunatelly vmalloc doesn't suppoer GFP_NOFS semantinc properly because we do have hardocded GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the vmalloc layers. That means that if GFP_NOFS really protects from recursion into the fs deadlocks then the vmalloc call is broken.
What to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the GFP_NOFS is really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code. It would be great if the respective maintainers (hopefully get_maintainer.sh pointed me to all relevant ones). If there is not reclaim recursion issue then simply use the standard vmalloc (aka GFP_KERNEL request).
If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call memalloc_nofs_save when the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) and memalloc_nofs_restore when the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will get GFP_NOFS semantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.
Does that sound like something that can be done in a reasonable time? I have tried to bring this up in the past but our speed is glacial and there are attempts to do hacks like checking for abusers inside the vmalloc which is just too ugly to live.
Please do not hesitate to get back to me if something is not clear.
Thanks!
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who performGFP_NOFSallocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.cfs/ext4/xattr.cfs/gfs2/dir.cfs/gfs2/quota.cfs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.cfs/ubifs/debug.cfs/ubifs/lprops.cfs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cfs/ubifs/orphan.cUnfortunatelly vmalloc doesn't suppoer
GFP_NOFSsemantinc properly because we do have hardocdedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the vmalloc layers. That means that ifGFP_NOFSreally protects from recursion into the fs deadlocks then the vmalloc call is broken.What to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code. It would be great if the respective maintainers (hopefullyget_maintainer.shpointed me to all relevant ones). If there is not reclaim recursion issue then simply use the standard vmalloc (akaGFP_KERNELrequest).If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call
memalloc_nofs_savewhen the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) andmemalloc_nofs_restorewhen the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will getGFP_NOFSsemantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.
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Does that sound like something that can be done in a reasonable time? I have tried to bring this up in the past but our speed is glacial and there are attempts to do hacks like checking for abusers inside the vmalloc which is just too ugly to live.
Please do not hesitate to get back to me if something is not clear.
Thanks!
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I made a patch that adds memalloc_noio/fs_save around these calls a year
ago: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.0/01376.html
Mikulas
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who performGFP_NOFSallocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.cfs/ext4/xattr.cfs/gfs2/dir.cfs/gfs2/quota.cfs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.cfs/ubifs/debug.cfs/ubifs/lprops.cfs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cfs/ubifs/orphan.cUnfortunatelly vmalloc doesn't suppoer
GFP_NOFSsemantinc properly because we do have hardocdedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the vmalloc layers. That means that ifGFP_NOFSreally protects from recursion into the fs deadlocks then the vmalloc call is broken.What to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code. It would be great if the respective maintainers (hopefullyget_maintainer.shpointed me to all relevant ones). If there is not reclaim recursion issue then simply use the standard vmalloc (akaGFP_KERNELrequest).If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call
memalloc_nofs_savewhen the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) andmemalloc_nofs_restorewhen the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will getGFP_NOFSsemantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.Does that sound like something that can be done in a reasonable time? I have tried to bring this up in the past but our speed is glacial and there are attempts to do hacks like checking for abusers inside the vmalloc which is just too ugly to live.
Please do not hesitate to get back to me if something is not clear.
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Thanks!
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Michal Hocko SUSE LabsI made a patch that adds memalloc_noio/fs_save around these calls a year
ago: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.0/01376.html
Yeah, and that is the wrong approach. Let's try to fix this properly this time. As the above outlines, the worst case we can end up mid-term would be to wrap vmalloc calls with the scope api with a TODO. But I am pretty sure the respective maintainers can come up with a better solution. I am definitely willing to help here.
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who performGFP_NOFSallocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.cfs/ext4/xattr.cfs/gfs2/dir.cfs/gfs2/quota.cfs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.cfs/ubifs/debug.cfs/ubifs/lprops.cfs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cfs/ubifs/orphan.cUnfortunatelly vmalloc doesn't suppoer
GFP_NOFSsemantinc properly because we do have hardocdedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the vmalloc layers. That means that ifGFP_NOFSreally protects from recursion into the fs deadlocks then the vmalloc call is broken.What to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code. It would be great if the respective maintainers (hopefullyget_maintainer.shpointed me to all relevant ones). If there is not reclaim recursion issue then simply use the standard vmalloc (akaGFP_KERNELrequest).If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call
memalloc_nofs_savewhen the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) andmemalloc_nofs_restorewhen the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will getGFP_NOFSsemantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.Does that sound like something that can be done in a reasonable time? I have tried to bring this up in the past but our speed is glacial and there are attempts to do hacks like checking for abusers inside the vmalloc which is just too ugly to live.
Please do not hesitate to get back to me if something is not clear.
Thanks!
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I made a patch that adds memalloc_noio/fs_save around these calls a year
ago: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1707.0/01376.htmlYeah, and that is the wrong approach.
It is crude, but it fixes the deadlock possibility. Then, the maintainers will have a lot of time to refactor the code and move these memalloc_noio_save calls to the proper scope.
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Let's try to fix this properly
this time. As the above outlines, the worst case we can end up mid-term would be to wrap vmalloc calls with the scope api with a TODO. But I am pretty sure the respective maintainers can come up with a better solution. I am definitely willing to help here.Signature · 2 lines
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fs/ext4/xattr.cWhat to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code.
*Most* of the time it's not needed, but there are times when it is. We could be more smart about sending down GFP_NOFS only when it is needed. If we are sending too many GFP_NOFS's allocations such that it's causing heartburn, we could fix this. (xattr commands are rare enough that I dind't think it was worth it to modulate the GFP flags for this particular case, but we could make it be smarter if it would help.)
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If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call
memalloc_nofs_savewhen the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) andmemalloc_nofs_restorewhen the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will getGFP_NOFSsemantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.
This is something we could do in ext4. It hadn't been high priority, because we've been rather overloaded. As a suggestion, could you take documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file in Documentation/core-api?
The question I was trying to figure out which triggered the above request is how/whether to gradually convert to that scope API. Is it safe to add the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} to code and keep the GFP_NOFS flags until we're sure we got it all right, for all of the code paths, and then drop the GFP_NOFS?
Thanks,
- Ted
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fs/ext4/xattr.cWhat to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code.*Most* of the time it's not needed, but there are times when it is. We could be more smart about sending down
GFP_NOFSonly when it is needed.
Well, the primary idea is that you do not have to. All you care about is to use the scope api where it matters + a comment describing the reclaim recursion context (e.g. this lock will be held in the reclaim path here and there).
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If we are sending too many GFP_NOFS's allocations such that it's causing heartburn, we could fix this. (xattr commands are rare enough that I dind't think it was worth it to modulate the GFP flags for this particular case, but we could make it be smarter if it would help.)
Well, the vmalloc is actually a correctness issue rather than a heartburn...
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If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call
memalloc_nofs_savewhen the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) andmemalloc_nofs_restorewhen the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will getGFP_NOFSsemantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.
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This is something we could do in ext4. It hadn't been high priority, because we've been rather overloaded.
Well, ext/jbd already has scopes defined for the transaction context so anything down that road can be converted to GFP_KERNEL (well, unless the same code path is shared outside of the transaction context and still requires a protection). It would be really great to identify other contexts and slowly move away from the explicit GFP_NOFS. Are you aware of other contexts?
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?
I can.
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The question I was trying to figure out which triggered the above request is how/whether to gradually convert to that scope API. Is it safe to add the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} to code and keep the
GFP_NOFSflags until we're sure we got it all right, for all of the code paths, and then drop theGFP_NOFS?
The first stage is to define and document those scopes. I have provided a debugging patch [1] in the past that would dump_stack when seeing an explicit GFP_NOFS from a scope which could help to eliminate existing users.
[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20170106141845.24362-1-mhocko at kernel.org
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On Tue 24-04-18 13:25:42, Michal Hocko wrote:
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?I can.
Does something like the below sound reasonable/helpful?
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GFP masks used from FS/IO context
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:Date: Mapy, 2018
:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Introduction
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FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating memory to prevent from potential recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS/IO path and block on already held resources (e.g. locks). Traditional way to avoid this problem is to clear __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be used as shortcut.
This has been the traditional way to avoid deadlocks since ages. It turned out though that above approach has led to abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory reclaim issues.
New API
=======
Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context ``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, ``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.
FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) is taken and the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
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vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quit non-trivial to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be achieved by the scope api.
In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?I can.
Does something like the below sound reasonable/helpful?
Sounds good to me and matches how we've been using the vmalloc/nofs so far.
Darrick J. Wong
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On Tue 24-04-18 13:25:42, Michal Hocko wrote:
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?I can.
Does something like the below sound reasonable/helpful?
---
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GFP masks used from FS/IO context
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:Date: Mapy, 2018
:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>Introduction
============FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating
Not sure what 'FS resp. IO' means here -- 'FS and IO' ?
(Or is this one of those things where this looks like plain English text but in reality it's some sort of markup that I'm not so familiar with?)
Confused because I've seen 'resp.' used as shorthand for 'responsible'...
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memory to prevent from potential recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS/IO path and block on already held resources (e.g. locks). Traditional way to avoid this problem
'The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem...'
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is to clear
__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IO(note the later implies clearing the first as well) in the gfp mask when calling an allocator.GFP_NOFSresp.GFP_NOIOcan be used as shortcut.This has been the traditional way to avoid deadlocks since ages. It
I think this sentence is a little redundant with the previous sentence, you could chop it out and join this paragraph to the one before it.
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turned out though that above approach has led to abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory reclaim issues.
New API
=======Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context ``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, ``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation from that scope will inherently drop
__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IOfrom the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) is taken and the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
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What about
__vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
==============================vmalloc doesn't support
GFP_NOFSsemantic because there are hardcodedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the allocator which are quit non-trivial
...which are quite non-trivial...
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to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be achieved by the scope api.
In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
Otherwise looks ok to me based on my understanding of how all this is supposed to work...
--D
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On Tue 24-04-18 13:25:42, Michal Hocko wrote:
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?I can.
Does something like the below sound reasonable/helpful?
---
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GFP masks used from FS/IO context
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:Date: Mapy, 2018
:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>Introduction
============FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating
Not sure what 'FS resp. IO' means here -- 'FS and IO' ?
(Or is this one of those things where this looks like plain English text but in reality it's some sort of markup that I'm not so familiar with?)
Confused because I've seen 'resp.' used as shorthand for 'responsible'...
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memory to prevent from potential recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS/IO path and block on already held resources (e.g. locks). Traditional way to avoid this problem
'The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem...'
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is to clear
__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IO(note the later implies clearing the first as well) in the gfp mask when calling an allocator.GFP_NOFSresp.GFP_NOIOcan be used as shortcut.This has been the traditional way to avoid deadlocks since ages. It
I think this sentence is a little redundant with the previous sentence, you could chop it out and join this paragraph to the one before it.
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turned out though that above approach has led to abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory reclaim issues.
New API
=======Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context ``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, ``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation from that scope will inherently drop
__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IOfrom the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) is taken and the corresponding restore function when the lock is
Seems like the second "is taken" got there by mistake
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released. All that ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
What about
__vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
==============================vmalloc doesn't support
GFP_NOFSsemantic because there are hardcodedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the allocator which are quit non-trivial...which are quite non-trivial...
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to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be achieved by the scope api.
In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
Otherwise looks ok to me based on my understanding of how all this is supposed to work...
Reviewed-by Darrick J. Wong <[email protected]>--D
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Sincerely yours, Mike.
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On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 03:42:22PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
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FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) is taken and the corresponding restore function when the lock is
Seems like the second "is taken" got there by mistake
yeah, fixed. Thanks!
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On Tue 24-04-18 13:25:42, Michal Hocko wrote:
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?I can.
Does something like the below sound reasonable/helpful?
---
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GFP masks used from FS/IO context
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:Date: Mapy, 2018
:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>Introduction
============FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating
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Not sure what 'FS resp. IO' means here -- 'FS and IO' ?
(Or is this one of those things where this looks like plain English text but in reality it's some sort of markup that I'm not so familiar with?)
Confused because I've seen 'resp.' used as shorthand for 'responsible'...
Well, I've tried to cover both. Filesystem and IO code paths which allocate while in sensitive context. IO submission is kinda clear but I am not sure what a general term for filsystem code paths would be. I would be greatful for any hints here.
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memory to prevent from potential recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS/IO path and block on already held resources (e.g. locks). Traditional way to avoid this problem
'The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem...'
Done
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is to clear
__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IO(note the later implies clearing the first as well) in the gfp mask when calling an allocator.GFP_NOFSresp.GFP_NOIOcan be used as shortcut.This has been the traditional way to avoid deadlocks since ages. It
I think this sentence is a little redundant with the previous sentence, you could chop it out and join this paragraph to the one before it.
OK
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turned out though that above approach has led to abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory reclaim issues.
New API
=======Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context ``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, ``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation from that scope will inherently drop
__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IOfrom the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) is taken and the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
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What about
__vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
==============================vmalloc doesn't support
GFP_NOFSsemantic because there are hardcodedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the allocator which are quit non-trivial...which are quite non-trivial...
fixed
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to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be achieved by the scope api.
In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
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Otherwise looks ok to me based on my understanding of how all this is supposed to work...
Reviewed-by Darrick J. Wong <[email protected]>
Thanks for your review!
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As a suggestion, could you take
documentation about how to convert to the memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api (which I think you've written about e-mails at length before), and put that into a file inDocumentation/core-api?I can.
Does something like the below sound reasonable/helpful?
---
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GFP masks used from FS/IO context
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:Date: Mapy, 2018
:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>Introduction
============FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating
Not sure what 'FS resp. IO' means here -- 'FS and IO' ?
(Or is this one of those things where this looks like plain English text but in reality it's some sort of markup that I'm not so familiar with?)
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Well, I've tried to cover both. Filesystem and IO code paths which allocate while in sensitive context. IO submission is kinda clear but I am not sure what a general term for filsystem code paths would be. I would be greatful for any hints here.
"Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on already held resources (e.g. locks)." ?
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memory to prevent from potential recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS/IO path and block on already held resources (e.g. locks). Traditional way to avoid this problem
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__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IO(note the later implies clearing the first as well) in the gfp mask when calling an allocator.GFP_NOFSresp.GFP_NOIOcan be used as shortcut.This has been the traditional way to avoid deadlocks since ages. It
I think this sentence is a little redundant with the previous sentence, you could chop it out and join this paragraph to the one before it.
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turned out though that above approach has led to abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory reclaim issues.
New API
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__GFP_FSresp.__GFP_IOfrom the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) is taken and the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance.
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to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be achieved by the scope api.
In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
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Reviewed-by Darrick J. Wong <[email protected]>Thanks for your review!
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FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating
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Great, thanks!
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FS resp. IO submitting code paths have to be careful when allocating
Not sure what 'FS resp. IO' means here -- 'FS and IO' ?
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Confused because I've seen 'resp.' used as shorthand for 'responsible'...
Well, I've tried to cover both. Filesystem and IO code paths which allocate while in sensitive context. IO submission is kinda clear but I am not sure what a general term for filsystem code paths would be. I would be greatful for any hints here.
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"Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on already held resources (e.g. locks)." ?
Great, thanks!
I dared to extend the last part to "(e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the transaction context)"
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PATCH 1/1 doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
In reply to Theodore Y. Ts'oFrom: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
---
Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch please?
[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
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@@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +================================= +GFP masks used from FS/IO context +================================= + +:Date: Mapy, 2018 +:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction +============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in +the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be +used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation +from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. + +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance. + +What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) +============================== + +vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded +GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial +to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is +almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be +achieved by the scope api. + +In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts +and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without +any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are +layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` +by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Cc "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>Cc David Sterba <[email protected]>Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>---
Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch please?[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
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-0@@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +================================= +GFP masks used from FS/IO context +================================= + +:Date: Mapy, 2018 +:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction
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-0+============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in
Is resp. == respectively? Why not use the full word (here and below)?
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-1+the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be +used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation +from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. + +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance. + +What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) +============================== + +vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded +GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial +to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is +almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be +achieved by the scope api. + +In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts +and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without +any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are +layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` +by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem. --2.17.0
Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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-0+The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) inIs resp. == respectively? Why not use the full word (here and below)?
yes. Because I was lazy ;)
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From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Cc "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>Cc David Sterba <[email protected]>Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>---
Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch please?[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
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-0+============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in
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-0+the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be +used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use
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-0+of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation
s/POV/point of view/ or whatever it is.
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-0+from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. + +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier
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-0+maintenance. + +What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) +============================== + +vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded +GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial +to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is +almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be +achieved by the scope api.
I would prefer s/api/API/ throughout.
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-0+ +In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts +and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without +any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are +layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` +by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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No I really meant that clearing __GFP_IO implies __GFP_FS clearing
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No I really meant that clearing__GFP_IOimplies__GFP_FSclearing
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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No I really meant that clearing__GFP_IOimplies__GFP_FSclearing
In that case "latter" is the proper word AFAIK. You could also use "former" instead of "first". Or maybe just repeat the flag names to avoid confusion...
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In reply to Michal HockoQuoted 19 lines · On Thu, 24 May 2018 13:43:41 +0200 Michal Hocko <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Cc "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>Cc David Sterba <[email protected]>Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>---
Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch please?
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So you create the rst file, but don't add it in index.rst; that means it won't be a part of the docs build and Sphinx will complain.
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Ah...the wonderful month of Mapy....:)
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-0+:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction +============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in
"resp." is indeed a bit terse. Even spelled out as "respectively", though, I'm not sure what the word is intended to mean here. Did you mean "or"?
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-0+used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation
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-0+from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.
Wouldn't it be nice if those functions had kerneldoc comments that could be pulled in here! :)
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-0+the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance. + +What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) +============================== + +vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded +GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial +to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is +almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be +achieved by the scope api.
Agree with others on "API"
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-0+In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts +and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without +any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are +layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` +by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
Thanks,
jon
Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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Quoted 19 lines · On Thu, 24 May 2018 13:43:41 +0200 Michal Hocko <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Cc "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>Cc David Sterba <[email protected]>Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>---
Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch please?
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-0+:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction +============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct
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-0+memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in"resp." is indeed a bit terse. Even spelled out as "respectively", though,
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I'm not sure what the word is intended to mean here. Did you mean "or"?
Basically yes. There are two cases here. NOFS and NOIO. The later being a subset of the first. I didn't really want to repeat the whole thing for NOIO.
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-0+the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can beHere too.
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-0+used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation"from a filesystem or I/O point of view" ?
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-0+from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.Wouldn't it be nice if those functions had kerneldoc comments that could be pulled in here! :)
Most probably yes ;) I thought I've done that but that was probably in a different universe. This probably?
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@@ -166,6 +166,17 @@ static inline void fs_reclaim_acquire(gfp_t gfp_mask) { }static inline void fs_reclaim_release (gfp_t gfp_mask) { }#endif +/** +* memalloc_noio_save - Marks implicit GFP_NOIO allocation scope. +* +* This functions marks the beginning of the GFP_NOIO allocation scope. +* All further allocations will implicitly drop __GFP_IO flag and so +* they are safe for the IO critical section from the allocation recursion +* point of view. Use memalloc_noio_restore to end the scope with flags +* returned by this function. +* +* This function is safe to be used from any context. +*/ static inline unsigned int memalloc_noio_save (void ) {unsigned int flags = current->flags &PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO ;
@@ -173,11 +184,30 @@ static inline unsigned int memalloc_noio_save(void)return flags; } +/** +* memalloc_noio_restore - Ends the implicit GFP_NOIO scope. +* @flags: Flags to restore. +* +* Ends the implicit GFP_NOIO scope started by memalloc_noio_save function. +* Always make sure that that the given flags is the return value from the +* pairing memalloc_noio_save call. +*/ static inline void memalloc_noio_restore (unsigned int flags) { current->flags = (current->flags & ~PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO ) | flags; } +/** +* memalloc_nofs_save - Marks implicit GFP_NOFS allocation scope. +* +* This functions marks the beginning of the GFP_NOFS allocation scope. +* All further allocations will implicitly drop __GFP_FS flag and so +* they are safe for the FS critical section from the allocation recursion +* point of view. Use memalloc_nofs_restore to end the scope with flags +* returned by this function. +* +* This function is safe to be used from any context. +*/ static inline unsigned int memalloc_nofs_save (void ) {unsigned int flags = current->flags &PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS ;
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) andwhere a lock *is* taken ?
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Cc "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>Cc David Sterba <[email protected]>Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Yay, Documentation! :)
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Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch please?[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
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-0@@ -0,0 +1,55 @@ +================================= +GFP masks used from FS/IO context +================================= + +:Date: Mapy, 2018 +:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction +============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in +the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be +used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``,
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-0+``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation +from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. + +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.
This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
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Cc "Darrick J. Wong" <[email protected]>Cc David Sterba <[email protected]>Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>Yay, Documentation! :)
Indeed, many thanks!!!
- Ted
Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
Any better?
-FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the -layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and -the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that -ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier -maintenance.
+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any +lock shared with the reclaim context is taken. The corresponding +restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with +an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. +
+Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
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-0+an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
so it is safe to call memalloc_noio_save from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope
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What about
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Sincerely yours, Mike.
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
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-0+an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.so it is safe to call
memalloc_noio_savefrom an existing NOIO or NOFS scope
Here is what I have right now on top
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@@ -34,12 +34,15 @@ scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS respectively __GFP_IO from the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any -lock shared with the reclaim context is taken. The corresponding -restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with -an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. - -Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting -so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope. +critical section wrt. the reclaim is started - e.g. lock shared with the +reclaim context or when a transaction context nesting would be possible +via reclaim. The corresponding restore function when the critical +section ends. All that ideally along with an explanation what is +the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows +nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` respectively +``memalloc_noio_restore`` from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope. What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) ==============================
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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-5-FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the -layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and -the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that -ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier -maintenance. +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any +lock shared with the reclaim context is taken. The corresponding +restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along withMaybe: "The corresponding restore function is called when the lock is released"
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-0+an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.so it is safe to call
memalloc_noio_savefrom an existing NOIO or NOFS scopeHere is what I have right now on top
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Please spell out "with respect to".
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Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore functions allows nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` or ``memalloc_noio_restore`` respectively from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
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Dave has pointed that out.
"The restore function should be called when the critical section ends."
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-0+section ends. All that ideally along with an explanation what is +the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows +nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` respectively +``memalloc_noio_restore`` from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore functions allows nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` or ``memalloc_noio_restore`` respectively from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
Fixed. Thanks
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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-3-the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that -ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier -maintenance. +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any +lock shared with the reclaim context is taken. The corresponding +restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with +an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.
It's better, but the talk of this being necessary for locking makes me cringe. XFS doesn't do it for locking reasons - it does it largely for preventing transaction context nesting, which has all sorts of problems that cause hangs (e.g. log space reservations can't be filled) that aren't directly locking related.
i.e we should be talking about using these functions around contexts where recursion back into the filesystem through reclaim is problematic, not that "holding locks" is problematic. Locks can be used as an example of a problematic context, but locks are not the only recursion issue that require GFP_NOFS allocation contexts to avoid.
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Dave.
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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-0+Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.It's better, but the talk of this being necessary for locking makes me cringe. XFS doesn't do it for locking reasons - it does it largely for preventing transaction context nesting, which has all sorts of problems that cause hangs (e.g. log space reservations can't be filled) that aren't directly locking related.
Yeah, I wanted to not mention locks as much as possible.
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i.e we should be talking about using these functions around contexts where recursion back into the filesystem through reclaim is problematic, not that "holding locks" is problematic. Locks can be used as an example of a problematic context, but locks are not the only recursion issue that require
GFP_NOFSallocation contexts to avoid.
agreed. Do you have any suggestion how to add a more abstract wording that would not make head spinning?
I've tried the following. Any better?
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
Any better?
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-0+Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.It's better, but the talk of this being necessary for locking makes me cringe. XFS doesn't do it for locking reasons - it does it largely for preventing transaction context nesting, which has all sorts of problems that cause hangs (e.g. log space reservations can't be filled) that aren't directly locking related.
Yeah, I wanted to not mention locks as much as possible.
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i.e we should be talking about using these functions around contexts where recursion back into the filesystem through reclaim is problematic, not that "holding locks" is problematic. Locks can be used as an example of a problematic context, but locks are not the only recursion issue that require
GFP_NOFSallocation contexts to avoid.agreed. Do you have any suggestion how to add a more abstract wording that would not make head spinning?
I've tried the following. Any better?
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.... restore function should be called when ...
But otherwise I think this is much better.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 01:43:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
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-0+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the +layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and +the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that +ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier +maintenance.This paragraph doesn't make much sense to me. I think you're trying to say that we should call the appropriate save function "before locks are taken that a reclaim context (e.g a shrinker) might require access to."
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I think it's also worth making a note about recursive/nested save/restore stacking, because it's not clear from this description that this is allowed and will work as long as inner save/restore calls are fully nested inside outer save/restore contexts.
Any better?
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-5-FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the -layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and -the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that -ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier -maintenance. +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any +lock shared with the reclaim context is taken. The corresponding +restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with +an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. +Quoted 8 lines
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-0+Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore function allows nesting +so memalloc_noio_save is safe to be called from an existing NOIO or NOFS scope.It's better, but the talk of this being necessary for locking makes me cringe. XFS doesn't do it for locking reasons - it does it largely for preventing transaction context nesting, which has all sorts of problems that cause hangs (e.g. log space reservations can't be filled) that aren't directly locking related.
Yeah, I wanted to not mention locks as much as possible.
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i.e we should be talking about using these functions around contexts where recursion back into the filesystem through reclaim is problematic, not that "holding locks" is problematic. Locks can be used as an example of a problematic context, but locks are not the only recursion issue that require
GFP_NOFSallocation contexts to avoid.agreed. Do you have any suggestion how to add a more abstract wording that would not make head spinning?
I've tried the following. Any better?
Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst +0
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-3FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any -lock shared with the reclaim context is taken. The corresponding -restore function when the lock is released. All that ideally along with -an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. +critical section wrt. the reclaim is started - e.g. lock shared with the +reclaim context or when a transaction context nesting would be possible +via reclaim. The corresponding restore function when the critical.... restore function should be called when ...
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But otherwise I think this is much better.
Thanks!
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PATCH v2 1/1 doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
In reply to Michal HockoFrom: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Changes since v1
- add kerneldoc for the api - suggested by Johnatan
- review feedback from Dave and Johnatan
- feedback from Dave about more general critical context rather than locking
- feedback from Mike
- typo fixed - Randy, Dave
--- .../core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst | 61 +++++++++++++++++++ Documentation/core-api/index.rst | 1 + include/linux/sched/mm.h | 38 ++++++++++++ 3 files changed, 100 insertions(+) create mode 100644 Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst new file +61 -0
@@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +================================= +GFP masks used from FS/IO context +================================= + +:Date: May, 2018 +:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction +============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +respectively __GFP_IO (note the latter implies clearing the first as well) in +the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS respectively GFP_NOIO can be +used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` respectively ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from a filesystem or I/O point of view. Any allocation from that +scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS respectively __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. + +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before +any critical section with respect to the reclaim is started - e.g. +lock shared with the reclaim context or when a transaction context +nesting would be possible via reclaim. The restore function should be +called when the critical section ends. All that ideally along with an +explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore functions +allows nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` or +``memalloc_noio_restore`` respectively from an existing NOIO or NOFS +scope. + +What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) +============================== + +vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded +GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial +to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is +almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be +achieved by the scope API. + +In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts +and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without +any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are +layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` +by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
Documentation/core-api/index.rst +1 -0
@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ Core utilities genalloc errseq printk-formats + gfp_mask-from-fs-io Interfaces for kernel debugging ===============================
include/linux/sched/mm.h +38 -0
@@ -166,6 +166,17 @@ static inline void fs_reclaim_acquire(gfp_t gfp_mask) { }static inline void fs_reclaim_release (gfp_t gfp_mask) { }#endif +/** +* memalloc_noio_save - Marks implicit GFP_NOIO allocation scope. +* +* This functions marks the beginning of the GFP_NOIO allocation scope. +* All further allocations will implicitly drop __GFP_IO flag and so +* they are safe for the IO critical section from the allocation recursion +* point of view. Use memalloc_noio_restore to end the scope with flags +* returned by this function. +* +* This function is safe to be used from any context. +*/ static inline unsigned int memalloc_noio_save (void ) {unsigned int flags = current->flags &PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO ;
@@ -173,11 +184,30 @@ static inline unsigned int memalloc_noio_save(void)return flags; } +/** +* memalloc_noio_restore - Ends the implicit GFP_NOIO scope. +* @flags: Flags to restore. +* +* Ends the implicit GFP_NOIO scope started by memalloc_noio_save function. +* Always make sure that that the given flags is the return value from the +* pairing memalloc_noio_save call. +*/ static inline void memalloc_noio_restore (unsigned int flags) { current->flags = (current->flags & ~PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO ) | flags; } +/** +* memalloc_nofs_save - Marks implicit GFP_NOFS allocation scope. +* +* This functions marks the beginning of the GFP_NOFS allocation scope. +* All further allocations will implicitly drop __GFP_FS flag and so +* they are safe for the FS critical section from the allocation recursion +* point of view. Use memalloc_nofs_restore to end the scope with flags +* returned by this function. +* +* This function is safe to be used from any context. +*/ static inline unsigned int memalloc_nofs_save (void ) {unsigned int flags = current->flags &PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS ;
@@ -185,6 +215,14 @@ static inline unsigned int memalloc_nofs_save(void)return flags; } +/** +* memalloc_nofs_restore - Ends the implicit GFP_NOFS scope. +* @flags: Flags to restore. +* +* Ends the implicit GFP_NOFS scope started by memalloc_nofs_save function. +* Always make sure that that the given flags is the return value from the +* pairing memalloc_nofs_save call. +*/ static inline void memalloc_nofs_restore (unsigned int flags) { current->flags = (current->flags & ~PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS ) | flags;
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Re: [PATCH v2] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
Quoted 14 lines · Michal Hocko
From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Changes since v1
- add kerneldoc for the api - suggested by Johnatan
- review feedback from Dave and Johnatan
- feedback from Dave about more general critical context rather than locking
- feedback from Mike
- typo fixed - Randy, Dave
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Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
We could bikeshed forever about the exact wording, but it covers everything I think needs to be documented.
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Re: [PATCH v2] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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From: Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
Changes since v1
- add kerneldoc for the api - suggested by Johnatan
- review feedback from Dave and Johnatan
- feedback from Dave about more general critical context rather than locking
- feedback from Mike
- typo fixed - Randy, Dave
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Requested-by "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Michal Hocko <[email protected]>
I believe it's worth linking the kernel-doc part with the text. e.g.:
Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst +7 -0
@@ -59,3 +59,10 @@ and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem. + +Reference +========= + +.. kernel-doc:: include/linux/sched/mm.h + :functions: memalloc_nofs_save memalloc_nofs_restore \ + memalloc_noio_save memalloc_noio_restore
Except that, all looks good to me
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--- .../core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst | 61 +++++++++++++++++++ Documentation/core-api/index.rst | 1 + include/linux/sched/mm.h | 38 ++++++++++++ 3 files changed, 100 insertions(+) create mode 100644 Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rstDocumentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst new file +61
-0@@ -0,0 +1,61 @@ +================================= +GFP masks used from FS/IO context +================================= + +:Date: May, 2018 +:Author: Michal Hocko <[email protected]> + +Introduction +============ + +Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when +allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct +memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on +already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the +transaction context). + +The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +respectively __GFP_IO (note the latter implies clearing the first as well) in +the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS respectively GFP_NOIO can be +used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to +abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a +deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use +of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory +reclaim issues. + +New API +======== + +Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context +``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` respectively ``memalloc_noio_save``, +``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical +section from a filesystem or I/O point of view. Any allocation from that +scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS respectively __GFP_IO from the given +mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. + +FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before +any critical section with respect to the reclaim is started - e.g. +lock shared with the reclaim context or when a transaction context +nesting would be possible via reclaim. The restore function should be +called when the critical section ends. All that ideally along with an +explanation what is the reclaim context for easier maintenance. + +Please note that the proper pairing of save/restore functions +allows nesting so it is safe to call ``memalloc_noio_save`` or +``memalloc_noio_restore`` respectively from an existing NOIO or NOFS +scope. + +What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS) +============================== + +vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded +GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial +to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is +almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be +achieved by the scope API. + +In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts +and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without +any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are +layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc`` +by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.Documentation/core-api/index.rst +1
-0@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ Core utilities genalloc errseq printk-formats + gfp_mask-from-fs-io Interfaces for kernel debugging ===============================include/linux/sched/mm.h +38
-0@@ -166,6 +166,17 @@ static inline void fs_reclaim_acquire(gfp_t gfp_mask) { }static inline void fs_reclaim_release (gfp_t gfp_mask) { }#endif +/** +* memalloc_noio_save - Marks implicit GFP_NOIO allocation scope. +* +* This functions marks the beginning of the GFP_NOIO allocation scope. +* All further allocations will implicitly drop __GFP_IO flag and so +* they are safe for the IO critical section from the allocation recursion +* point of view. Use memalloc_noio_restore to end the scope with flags +* returned by this function. +* +* This function is safe to be used from any context. +*/ static inline unsigned int memalloc_noio_save (void ) {unsigned int flags = current->flags &PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO ;@@ -173,11 +184,30 @@ static inline unsigned int memalloc_noio_save(void)return flags; } +/** +* memalloc_noio_restore - Ends the implicit GFP_NOIO scope. +* @flags: Flags to restore. +* +* Ends the implicit GFP_NOIO scope started by memalloc_noio_save function. +* Always make sure that that the given flags is the return value from the +* pairing memalloc_noio_save call. +*/ static inline void memalloc_noio_restore (unsigned int flags) { current->flags = (current->flags & ~PF_MEMALLOC_NOIO ) | flags; } +/** +* memalloc_nofs_save - Marks implicit GFP_NOFS allocation scope. +* +* This functions marks the beginning of the GFP_NOFS allocation scope. +* All further allocations will implicitly drop __GFP_FS flag and so +* they are safe for the FS critical section from the allocation recursion +* point of view. Use memalloc_nofs_restore to end the scope with flags +* returned by this function. +* +* This function is safe to be used from any context. +*/ static inline unsigned int memalloc_nofs_save (void ) {unsigned int flags = current->flags &PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS ;@@ -185,6 +215,14 @@ static inline unsigned int memalloc_nofs_save(void)return flags; } +/** +* memalloc_nofs_restore - Ends the implicit GFP_NOFS scope. +* @flags: Flags to restore. +* +* Ends the implicit GFP_NOFS scope started by memalloc_nofs_save function. +* Always make sure that that the given flags is the return value from the +* pairing memalloc_nofs_save call. +*/ static inline void memalloc_nofs_restore (unsigned int flags) { current->flags = (current->flags & ~PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS ) | flags;Signature · 1 line
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Sincerely yours, Mike.
Jonathan Corbet
maintainerRe: [PATCH v2] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
In reply to Michal HockoQuoted 3 lines · On Tue, 29 May 2018 10:26:44 +0200 Michal Hocko <[email protected]> wrote:
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
So, I still think that this:
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doesn't read the way you intend it to. But we've sent you in more than enough circles on this already, so I went ahead and applied it; wording can always be tweaked later.
You added the kerneldoc comments, but didn't bring them into your new document. I'm going to tack this on afterward, hopefully nobody will object.
Thanks,
jon
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docs: Use the kerneldoc comments for memalloc_no*()
Now that we have kerneldoc comments for memalloc_no{fs,io}_{save_restore}(), go ahead and pull them into the docs.
--- Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst | 5 +++++ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
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@@ -33,6 +33,11 @@ section from a filesystem or I/O point of view. Any allocation from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS respectively __GFP_IO from the given mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO. +.. kernel-doc:: include/linux/sched/mm.h + :functions: memalloc_nofs_save memalloc_nofs_restore +.. kernel-doc:: include/linux/sched/mm.h + :functions: memalloc_noio_save memalloc_noio_restore + FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function before any critical section with respect to the reclaim is started - e.g. lock shared with the reclaim context or when a transaction context
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Re: [PATCH v2] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
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Quoted 3 lines · On Tue, 29 May 2018 10:26:44 +0200 Michal Hocko <[email protected]> wrote:
Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.
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So, I still think that this:
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-0+The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS +respectively __GFP_IO (note the latter implies clearing the first as well) indoesn't read the way you intend it to. But we've sent you in more than enough circles on this already, so I went ahead and applied it; wording can always be tweaked later.
Thanks a lot Jonathan! I am open to any suggestions of course and can follow up with some refinements. Just for the background. The above paragraph is meant to say that:
- clearing __GFP_FS is a way to avoid reclaim recursion into filesystems deadlocks
- clearing __GFP_IO is a way to avoid reclaim recursion into the IO layer deadlocks
- GFP_NOIO implies __GFP_NOFS
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You added the kerneldoc comments, but didn't bring them into your new document. I'm going to tack this on afterward, hopefully nobody will object.
I have to confess I've never studied how the rst and kerneldoc should be interlinked so thanks for the fix up!
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fs/ext4/xattr.cWhat to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code.
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*Most* of the time it's not needed, but there are times when it is. We could be more smart about sending down
GFP_NOFSonly when it is needed. If we are sending too many GFP_NOFS's allocations such that it's causing heartburn, we could fix this. (xattr commands are rare enough that I dind't think it was worth it to modulate the GFP flags for this particular case, but we could make it be smarter if it would help.)
There still seem to be ext4_kvmalloc(NOFS) callers in the ext4 code. Do you have any plans to get rid of those?
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Richard Weinberger
maintainerAm Dienstag, 24. April 2018, 18:27:12 CEST schrieb Michal Hocko:
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fs/ubifs/debug.c
This one is just for debugging.
So, preallocating + locking would not hurt much.
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Ditto.
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Here we use it also only in debugging mode and in one case for fatal error reporting.
No hot paths.
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc with GFP_NOFS in UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.
Thanks,
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fs/ubifs/debug.cThis one is just for debugging.
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fs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cHere we use it also only in debugging mode and in one case for fatal error reporting.
No hot paths.
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fs/ubifs/orphan.cAlso only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.
Cool!
Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit GFP_NOFS in the code.
Thanks for a quick turnaround.
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Richard Weinberger
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.Cool!
Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit
GFP_NOFSin the code.
So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses GFP_KERNEL for kmalloc/vmalloc?
Thanks,
//richard
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.Cool!
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Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit
GFP_NOFSin the code.So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
GFP_KERNELfor kmalloc/vmalloc?
Exactly! And in a dream world those memalloc_nofs_save act as a documentation of the reclaim recursion documentation ;)
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.Cool!
Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit
GFP_NOFSin the code.
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So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
GFP_KERNELfor kmalloc/vmalloc?Exactly! And in a dream world those
memalloc_nofs_saveact as a documentation of the reclaim recursion documentation ;)Signature · 2 lines
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BTW. should memalloc_nofs_save and memalloc_noio_save be merged into just one that prevents both I/O and FS recursion?
memalloc_nofs_save allows submitting bios to I/O stack and the bios created under memalloc_nofs_save could be sent to the loop device and the loop device calls the filesystem...
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Am Dienstag, 24. April 2018, 21:28:03 CEST schrieb Michal Hocko:
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.Cool!
Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit
GFP_NOFSin the code.So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
GFP_KERNELfor kmalloc/vmalloc?
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Exactly! And in a dream world those
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memalloc_nofs_saveandmemalloc_noio_savebe merged into just one that prevents both I/O and FS recursion?
Why should FS usage stop IO altogether?
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memalloc_nofs_saveallows submitting bios to I/O stack and the bios created undermemalloc_nofs_savecould be sent to the loop device and the loop device calls the filesystem...
Don't those use NOIO context?
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.Cool!
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Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit
GFP_NOFSin the code.So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
GFP_KERNELfor kmalloc/vmalloc?Exactly! And in a dream world those
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BTW. should
memalloc_nofs_saveandmemalloc_noio_savebe merged into just one that prevents both I/O and FS recursion?Why should FS usage stop IO altogether?
Because the IO may reach loop and loop may redirect it to the same filesystem that is running under memalloc_nofs_save and deadlock.
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memalloc_nofs_saveallows submitting bios to I/O stack and the bios created undermemalloc_nofs_savecould be sent to the loop device and the loop device calls the filesystem...Don't those use NOIO context?
What do you mean?
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Also only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.Cool!
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Anyway, if UBIFS has some reclaim recursion critical sections in general it would be really great to have them documented and that is where the scope api is really handy. Just add the scope and document what is the recursion issue. This will help people reading the code as well. Ideally there shouldn't be any explicit
GFP_NOFSin the code.So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
GFP_KERNELfor kmalloc/vmalloc?Exactly! And in a dream world those
memalloc_nofs_saveact as a documentation of the reclaim recursion documentation ;)Signature · 2 lines
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BTW. should
memalloc_nofs_saveandmemalloc_noio_savebe merged into just one that prevents both I/O and FS recursion?Why should FS usage stop IO altogether?
Because the IO may reach loop and loop may redirect it to the same filesystem that is running under
memalloc_nofs_saveand deadlock.
So what is the difference with the current GFP_NOFS?
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memalloc_nofs_saveallows submitting bios to I/O stack and the bios created undermemalloc_nofs_savecould be sent to the loop device and the loop device calls the filesystem...Don't those use NOIO context?
What do you mean?
That the loop driver should make sure it will not recurse. The scope API doesn't add anything new here.
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So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
GFP_KERNELfor kmalloc/vmalloc?Exactly! And in a dream world those
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memalloc_nofs_saveandmemalloc_noio_savebe merged into just one that prevents both I/O and FS recursion?
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Why should FS usage stop IO altogether?
Because the IO may reach loop and loop may redirect it to the same filesystem that is running under
memalloc_nofs_saveand deadlock.So what is the difference with the current
GFP_NOFS?
My point is that filesystems should use GFP_NOIO too. If alloc_pages(GFP_NOFS) issues some random I/O to some block device, the I/O may be end up being redirected (via block loop device) to the filesystem that is calling alloc_pages(GFP_NOFS).
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memalloc_nofs_saveallows submitting bios to I/O stack and the bios created undermemalloc_nofs_savecould be sent to the loop device and the loop device calls the filesystem...Don't those use NOIO context?
What do you mean?
That the loop driver should make sure it will not recurse. The scope API doesn't add anything new here.
The loop driver doesn't recurse. The loop driver will add the request to a queue and wake up a thread that processes it. But if the request queue is full, __get_request will wait until the loop thread finishes processing some other request.
It doesn't recurse, but it waits until the filesystem makes some progress.
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So in a perfect world a filesystem calls memalloc_nofs_save/restore and always uses
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BTW. should
memalloc_nofs_saveandmemalloc_noio_savebe merged into just one that prevents both I/O and FS recursion?Why should FS usage stop IO altogether?
Because the IO may reach loop and loop may redirect it to the same filesystem that is running under
memalloc_nofs_saveand deadlock.
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So what is the difference with the current
GFP_NOFS?My point is that filesystems should use
GFP_NOIOtoo. Ifalloc_pages(GFP_NOFS)issues some random I/O to some block device, the I/O may be end up being redirected (via block loop device) to the filesystem that is callingalloc_pages(GFP_NOFS).
Talk to FS people, but I believe there is a good reason to distinguish the two.
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fs/ubifs/debug.cThis one is just for debugging.
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fs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cHere we use it also only in debugging mode and in one case for fatal error reporting.
No hot paths.
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fs/ubifs/orphan.cAlso only for debugging.
Getting rid of vmalloc withGFP_NOFSin UBIFS is no big problem. I can prepare a patch.
Hi Richard, I have just got back to this and noticed that the vmalloc NOFS usage is still there. Do you have any plans to push changes to remove it?
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who performGFP_NOFSallocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.c
UBI is also not a big deal. We use it here like in UBIFS for debugging when self-checks are enabled.
Thanks,
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Am Dienstag, 24. April 2018, 18:27:12 CEST schrieb Michal Hocko:
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who performGFP_NOFSallocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.c
UBI is not a big deal. We use it here like in UBIFS for debugging when self-checks are enabled.
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fs/ext4/xattr.cfs/gfs2/dir.cfs/gfs2/quota.cfs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.cfs/ubifs/debug.cfs/ubifs/lprops.cfs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cfs/ubifs/orphan.c
All users in UBIFS are debugging code and some error reporting. No fast paths.
I think we can switch to prealloation + locking without much hassle. I can prepare a patch.
Thanks,
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Hi,
it seems that we still have few vmalloc users who performGFP_NOFSallocation:drivers/mtd/ubi/io.cfs/ext4/xattr.cfs/gfs2/dir.cfs/gfs2/quota.cfs/nfs/blocklayout/extent_tree.cfs/ubifs/debug.cfs/ubifs/lprops.cfs/ubifs/lpt_commit.cfs/ubifs/orphan.cUnfortunatelly vmalloc doesn't suppoer
GFP_NOFSsemantinc properly because we do have hardocdedGFP_KERNELallocations deep inside the vmalloc layers. That means that ifGFP_NOFSreally protects from recursion into the fs deadlocks then the vmalloc call is broken.
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What to do about this? Well, there are two things. Firstly, it would be really great to double check whether the
GFP_NOFSis really needed. I cannot judge that because I am not familiar with the code. It would be great if the respective maintainers (hopefullyget_maintainer.shpointed me to all relevant ones). If there is not reclaim recursion issue then simply use the standard vmalloc (akaGFP_KERNELrequest).
For GFS2, and I suspect for other fs too, it is really needed. We don't want to enter reclaim while holding filesystem locks.
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If the use is really valid then we have a way to do the vmalloc allocation properly. We have memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} scope api. How does that work? You simply call
memalloc_nofs_savewhen the reclaim recursion critical section starts (e.g. when you take a lock which is then used in the reclaim path - e.g. shrinker) andmemalloc_nofs_restorewhen the critical section ends. _All_ allocations within that scope will getGFP_NOFSsemantic automagically. If you are not sure about the scope itself then the easiest workaround is to wrap the vmalloc itself with a big fat comment that this should be revisited.
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Does that sound like something that can be done in a reasonable time? I have tried to bring this up in the past but our speed is glacial and there are attempts to do hacks like checking for abusers inside the vmalloc which is just too ugly to live.
Please do not hesitate to get back to me if something is not clear.
Thanks!
It would be good to fix this, and it has been known as an issue for a long time. We might well be able to make use of the new API though. It might be as simple as adding the calls when we get & release glocks, but I'd have to check the code to be sure,
Steve.
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It would be good to fix this, and it has been known as an issue for a long time. We might well be able to make use of the new API though. It might be as simple as adding the calls when we get & release glocks, but I'd have to check the code to be sure,
Yeah, starting with annotating those locking contexts and how document how their are used in the reclaim is the great first step. This has to be done per-fs obviously.
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It would be good to fix this, and it has been known as an issue for a long time. We might well be able to make use of the new API though. It might be as simple as adding the calls when we get & release glocks, but I'd have to check the code to be sure,
Yeah, starting with annotating those locking contexts and how document how their are used in the reclaim is the great first step. This has to be done per-fs obviously.
Any chance of progress here?
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