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perf: Allow fine-grained PMU access control

RFC In review Tvrtko Ursulin 5 participants 9 messages May 21, 2018 – Jun 18, 2018

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RFC 1/1 perf: Allow fine-grained PMU access control

From: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>

For situations where sysadmins might want to allow different level of of access control for different PMUs, we start creating per-PMU perf_event_paranoid controls in sysfs.

These work in equivalent fashion as the existing perf_event_paranoid sysctl, which now becomes the parent control for each PMU.

On PMU registration the global/parent value will be inherited by each PMU, as it will be propagated to all registered PMUs when the sysctl is updated.

At any later point individual PMU access controls, located in <sysfs>/device/<pmu-name>/perf_event_paranoid, can be adjusted to achieve fine grained access control.

Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Cc Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
Cc Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <[email protected]>
Cc Alexander Shishkin <[email protected]>
Cc Jiri Olsa <[email protected]>
Cc Namhyung Kim <[email protected]>
---
 arch/x86/events/intel/bts.c     |  2 +-
 arch/x86/events/intel/core.c    |  2 +-
 arch/x86/events/intel/p4.c      |  2 +-
 include/linux/perf_event.h      | 18 ++++--
 kernel/events/core.c            | 99 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
 kernel/sysctl.c                 |  4 +-
 kernel/trace/trace_event_perf.c |  6 +-
 7 files changed, 105 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
arch/x86/events/intel/bts.c +1 -1
index 24ffa1e88cf9..e416c9e2400a 100644
@@ -555,7 +555,7 @@ static int bts_event_init(struct perf_event *event)
 	 * Note that the default paranoia setting permits unprivileged
 	 * users to profile the kernel.
 	 */
-	if (event->attr.exclude_kernel && perf_paranoid_kernel() &&
+	if (event->attr.exclude_kernel && perf_paranoid_kernel(event->pmu) &&
 	    !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
 		return -EACCES;
 
arch/x86/events/intel/core.c +1 -1
index 707b2a96e516..6b126bdbd16c 100644
@@ -3025,7 +3025,7 @@ static int intel_pmu_hw_config(struct perf_event *event)
 	if (x86_pmu.version < 3)
 		return -EINVAL;
 
-	if (perf_paranoid_cpu() && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
+	if (perf_paranoid_cpu(event->pmu) && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
 		return -EACCES;
 
 	event->hw.config |= ARCH_PERFMON_EVENTSEL_ANY;
arch/x86/events/intel/p4.c +1 -1
index d32c0eed38ca..878451ef1ace 100644
@@ -776,7 +776,7 @@ static int p4_validate_raw_event(struct perf_event *event)
 	 * the user needs special permissions to be able to use it
 	 */
 	if (p4_ht_active() && p4_event_bind_map[v].shared) {
-		if (perf_paranoid_cpu() && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
+		if (perf_paranoid_cpu(event->pmu) && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
 			return -EACCES;
 	}
 
include/linux/perf_event.h +12 -6
index e71e99eb9a4e..2d9e7b4bcfac 100644
@@ -271,6 +271,9 @@ struct pmu {
 	/* number of address filters this PMU can do */
 	unsigned int			nr_addr_filters;
 
+	/* fine grained access control */
+	int				perf_event_paranoid;
+
 	/*
 	 * Fully disable/enable this PMU, can be used to protect from the PMI
 	 * as well as for lazy/batch writing of the MSRs.
@@ -1159,6 +1162,9 @@ extern int sysctl_perf_cpu_time_max_percent;
 
 extern void perf_sample_event_took(u64 sample_len_ns);
 
+extern int perf_proc_paranoid_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
+		void __user *buffer, size_t *lenp,
+		loff_t *ppos);
 extern int perf_proc_update_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
 		void __user *buffer, size_t *lenp,
 		loff_t *ppos);
@@ -1169,19 +1175,19 @@ extern int perf_cpu_time_max_percent_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
 int perf_event_max_stack_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
 				 void __user *buffer, size_t *lenp, loff_t *ppos);
 
-static inline bool perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw(void)
+static inline bool perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw(const struct pmu *pmu)
 {
-	return sysctl_perf_event_paranoid > -1;
+	return pmu->perf_event_paranoid > -1;
 }
 
-static inline bool perf_paranoid_cpu(void)
+static inline bool perf_paranoid_cpu(const struct pmu *pmu)
 {
-	return sysctl_perf_event_paranoid > 0;
+	return pmu->perf_event_paranoid > 0;
 }
 
-static inline bool perf_paranoid_kernel(void)
+static inline bool perf_paranoid_kernel(const struct pmu *pmu)
 {
-	return sysctl_perf_event_paranoid > 1;
+	return pmu->perf_event_paranoid > 1;
 }
 
 extern void perf_event_init(void);
kernel/events/core.c +83 -16

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kernel/sysctl.c +3 -1
index 6a78cf70761d..aeec3ac5405e 100644
@@ -1142,7 +1142,9 @@ static struct ctl_table kern_table[] = {
 		.data		= &sysctl_perf_event_paranoid,
 		.maxlen		= sizeof(sysctl_perf_event_paranoid),
 		.mode		= 0644,
-		.proc_handler	= proc_dointvec,
+		.proc_handler	= perf_proc_paranoid_handler,
+		.extra1		= &neg_one,
+		.extra2		= &two,
 	},
 	{
 		.procname	= "perf_event_mlock_kb",
kernel/trace/trace_event_perf.c +4 -2
index c79193e598f5..545a7ef9bfe1 100644
@@ -45,7 +45,8 @@ static int perf_trace_event_perm(struct trace_event_call *tp_event,
 
 	/* The ftrace function trace is allowed only for root. */
 	if (ftrace_event_is_function(tp_event)) {
-		if (perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw() && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
+		if (perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw(p_event->pmu) &&
+		    !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
 			return -EPERM;
 
 		if (!is_sampling_event(p_event))
@@ -81,7 +82,8 @@ static int perf_trace_event_perm(struct trace_event_call *tp_event,
 	 * ...otherwise raw tracepoint data can be a severe data leak,
 	 * only allow root to have these.
 	 */
-	if (perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw() && !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
+	if (perf_paranoid_tracepoint_raw(p_event->pmu) &&
+	    !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
 		return -EPERM;
 
 	return 0;
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Quoted 5 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin

From: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>

For situations where sysadmins might want to allow different level of of access control for different PMUs, we start creating per-PMU perf_event_paranoid controls in sysfs.

Could you explain how exactly this makes sense?

For example, how does it make sense for one PMU to reveal kernel data while another PMU is not allowed.

Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out.

So please explain, in excruciating detail, how you want to use this and how exactly that makes sense from a security pov.

Quoted 11 lines

These work in equivalent fashion as the existing perf_event_paranoid sysctl, which now becomes the parent control for each PMU.

On PMU registration the global/parent value will be inherited by each PMU, as it will be propagated to all registered PMUs when the sysctl is updated.

At any later point individual PMU access controls, located in <sysfs>/device/<pmu-name>/perf_event_paranoid, can be adjusted to achieve fine grained access control.

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Quoted 9 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin

From: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>

For situations where sysadmins might want to allow different level of of access control for different PMUs, we start creating per-PMU perf_event_paranoid controls in sysfs.

Could you explain how exactly this makes sense?

Quoted 7 lines

For example, how does it make sense for one PMU to reveal kernel data while another PMU is not allowed.

Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out.

So please explain, in excruciating detail, how you want to use this and how exactly that makes sense from a security pov.

Not sure it will be excruciating but will try to explain once again.

There are two things:

1. i915 PMU which exports data such as different engine busyness levels. (Perhaps you remember, you helped us implement this from the perf API angle.)

2. Customers who want to look at those stats in production.

They want to use it to answer questions such as:

a) How loaded is my server and can it take one more of X type of job?
b) What is the least utilised video engine to submit the next packet of work to?
c) What is the least utilised server to schedule the next transcoding job on?

Current option for them is to turn off the global paranoid setting which then enables unprivileged access to _all_ PMU providers.

To me it sounded quite logical that it would be better for the paranoid knob to be more fine-grained, so that they can configure their servers so only access to needed data is possible.

I am not sure what do you mean by "Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out."? What secret? Are you implying that enabling unprivileged access to i915 engine busyness data opens up access to CPU PMU's as well via some side channel?

Regards,

Tvrtko

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These work in equivalent fashion as the existing perf_event_paranoid sysctl, which now becomes the parent control for each PMU.

On PMU registration the global/parent value will be inherited by each PMU, as it will be propagated to all registered PMUs when the sysctl is updated.

At any later point individual PMU access controls, located in <sysfs>/device/<pmu-name>/perf_event_paranoid, can be adjusted to achieve fine grained access control.

maintainer
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Quoted 19 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin
Quoted 9 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin

From: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>

For situations where sysadmins might want to allow different level of of access control for different PMUs, we start creating per-PMU perf_event_paranoid controls in sysfs.

Could you explain how exactly this makes sense?

Quoted 7 lines

For example, how does it make sense for one PMU to reveal kernel data while another PMU is not allowed.

Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out.

So please explain, in excruciating detail, how you want to use this and how exactly that makes sense from a security pov.

Quoted 7 lines

Not sure it will be excruciating but will try to explain once again.

There are two things:

1. i915 PMU which exports data such as different engine busyness levels. (Perhaps you remember, you helped us implement this from the perf API angle.)

Right, but I completely forgot everything again.. So thanks for reminding.

Quoted 9 lines

2. Customers who want to look at those stats in production.

They want to use it to answer questions such as:

a) How loaded is my server and can it take one more of X type of job?
b) What is the least utilised video engine to submit the next packet of work to?
c) What is the least utilised server to schedule the next transcoding job on?

On the other hand, do those counters provide enough information for a side-channel (timing) attack on GPGPU workloads? Because, as you say, it is a shared resource. So if user A is doing GPGPU crypto, and user B is observing, might he infer things from the counters?

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Current option for them is to turn off the global paranoid setting which then enables unprivileged access to _all_ PMU providers.

Right.

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To me it sounded quite logical that it would be better for the paranoid knob to be more fine-grained, so that they can configure their servers so only access to needed data is possible.

The proposed semantics are a tad awkward though, the moment you prod at the sysctl you loose all individual PMU settings. Ideally the per-pmu would have a special setting that says follow-global in addition to the existing ones.

Quoted 4 lines

I am not sure what do you mean by "Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out."? What secret? Are you implying that enabling unprivileged access to i915 engine busyness data opens up access to CPU PMU's as well via some side channel?

It was not i915 specific; but if you look at the descriptions:

* perf event paranoia level:
* -1 - not paranoid at all

 *   0 - disallow raw tracepoint access for unpriv
 *   1 - disallow cpu events for unpriv
 *   2 - disallow kernel profiling for unpriv

Then the moment you allow some data to escape, it cannot be put back. i915 is fairly special in that (afaict) it doesn't leak kernel specific data

In general I think allowing access to uncore PMUs will leak kernel data. Thus in general I'm fairly wary of all this.

Is there no other way to expose this information? Can't we do a traditional load-avg like thing for the GPU?

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Hi,

Quoted 73 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 19 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin
Quoted 9 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin

From: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>

For situations where sysadmins might want to allow different level of of access control for different PMUs, we start creating per-PMU perf_event_paranoid controls in sysfs.

Could you explain how exactly this makes sense?

Quoted 7 lines

For example, how does it make sense for one PMU to reveal kernel data while another PMU is not allowed.

Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out.

So please explain, in excruciating detail, how you want to use this and how exactly that makes sense from a security pov.

Quoted 7 lines

Not sure it will be excruciating but will try to explain once again.

There are two things:

1. i915 PMU which exports data such as different engine busyness levels. (Perhaps you remember, you helped us implement this from the perf API angle.)

Right, but I completely forgot everything again.. So thanks for reminding.

Quoted 9 lines

2. Customers who want to look at those stats in production.

They want to use it to answer questions such as:

a) How loaded is my server and can it take one more of X type of job?
b) What is the least utilised video engine to submit the next packet of work to?
c) What is the least utilised server to schedule the next transcoding job on?

On the other hand, do those counters provide enough information for a side-channel (timing) attack on GPGPU workloads? Because, as you say, it is a shared resource. So if user A is doing GPGPU crypto, and user B is observing, might he infer things from the counters?

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Current option for them is to turn off the global paranoid setting which then enables unprivileged access to _all_ PMU providers.

Right.

Quoted 3 lines

To me it sounded quite logical that it would be better for the paranoid knob to be more fine-grained, so that they can configure their servers so only access to needed data is possible.

The proposed semantics are a tad awkward though, the moment you prod at the sysctl you loose all individual PMU settings. Ideally the per-pmu would have a special setting that says follow-global in addition to the existing ones.

Quoted 4 lines

I am not sure what do you mean by "Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out."? What secret? Are you implying that enabling unprivileged access to i915 engine busyness data opens up access to CPU PMU's as well via some side channel?

It was not i915 specific; but if you look at the descriptions:

* perf event paranoia level:
* -1 - not paranoid at all

 *   0 - disallow raw tracepoint access for unpriv
 *   1 - disallow cpu events for unpriv
 *   2 - disallow kernel profiling for unpriv
Quoted 5 lines

Then the moment you allow some data to escape, it cannot be put back. i915 is fairly special in that (afaict) it doesn't leak kernel specific data

In general I think allowing access to uncore PMUs will leak kernel data.

IMHO, it is unsafe for CBOX pmu but could IMC, UPI pmus be an exception here? Because currently perf stat -I from IMC, UPI counters is only allowed when system wide monitoring is permitted and this prevents joint perf record and perf stat -I in cluster environments where users usually lack ability to modify paranoid. Adding Andi who may have more ideas regarding all that.

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Thus in general I'm fairly wary of all this.

Second this. Extra care is required here so some security related folks need to be involved into the discussion.

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Is there no other way to expose this information? Can't we do a traditional load-avg like thing for the GPU?

Thanks,
Alexey

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IMHO, it is unsafe for CBOX pmu but could IMC, UPI pmus be an exception here? Because currently perf stat -I from IMC, UPI counters is only allowed when system wide monitoring is permitted and this prevents joint perf record and perf stat -I in cluster environments where users usually lack ability to modify paranoid. Adding Andi who may have more ideas regarding all that.

PMU isolation is about not making side channels worse. There are normally already side channels from timing, but it has a degree of noise.

PMU isolation is just to prevent opening side channels with less noise. But reducing noise is always a trade off, it can never be perfect and at some point there are dimishing returns.

In general the farther you are from the origin of the noise there is already more noise. The PMU can reduce the noise, but if it's far enough away it may not make much difference.

So there are always trade offs with shades of grey, not a black and white situation. Depending on your security requirements it may be totally reasonable e.g. to allow the PMU
on the memory controller (which is already very noisy in any case), but not on the caches.

Or allow it only on the graphics which is already fairly isolated.

So per pmu paranoid settings are a useful concept.

-Andi

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Hi,

Quoted 23 lines · Andi Kleen
Quoted 5 lines

IMHO, it is unsafe for CBOX pmu but could IMC, UPI pmus be an exception here? Because currently perf stat -I from IMC, UPI counters is only allowed when system wide monitoring is permitted and this prevents joint perf record and perf stat -I in cluster environments where users usually lack ability to modify paranoid. Adding Andi who may have more ideas regarding all that.

PMU isolation is about not making side channels worse. There are normally already side channels from timing, but it has a degree of noise.

PMU isolation is just to prevent opening side channels with less noise. But reducing noise is always a trade off, it can never be perfect and at some point there are dimishing returns.

In general the farther you are from the origin of the noise there is already more noise. The PMU can reduce the noise, but if it's far enough away it may not make much difference.

So there are always trade offs with shades of grey, not a black and white situation. Depending on your security requirements it may be totally reasonable e.g. to allow the PMU
on the memory controller (which is already very noisy in any case), but not on the caches.

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Or allow it only on the graphics which is already fairly isolated.

So per pmu paranoid settings are a useful concept.

So it seems there is some positive feedback and fine-grained controls would be useful for other PMU's in cluster environments.

If we have agreement on that, question is how to drive this forward? Would someone be able to review the patch I've sent, or suggest more people to look at it before it could be queued up for merge?

Regards,

Tvrtko

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Hi Tvrtko,

Quoted 27 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin

Hi,

Quoted 23 lines · Andi Kleen
Quoted 5 lines

IMHO, it is unsafe for CBOX pmu but could IMC, UPI pmus be an exception here? Because currently perf stat -I from IMC, UPI counters is only allowed when system wide monitoring is permitted and this prevents joint perf record and perf stat -I in cluster environments where users usually lack ability to modify paranoid. Adding Andi who may have more ideas regarding all that.

PMU isolation is about not making side channels worse. There are normally already side channels from timing, but it has a degree of noise.

PMU isolation is just to prevent opening side channels with less noise. But reducing noise is always a trade off, it can never be perfect and at some point there are dimishing returns.

In general the farther you are from the origin of the noise there is already more noise. The PMU can reduce the noise, but if it's far enough away it may not make much difference.

So there are always trade offs with shades of grey, not a black and white situation. Depending on your security requirements it may be totally reasonable e.g. to allow the PMU
on the memory controller (which is already very noisy in any case), but not on the caches.

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Quoted 3 lines

Or allow it only on the graphics which is already fairly isolated.

So per pmu paranoid settings are a useful concept.

So it seems there is some positive feedback and fine-grained controls would be useful for other PMU's in cluster environments.

If we have agreement on that, question is how to drive this forward? Would someone be able to review the patch I've sent, or suggest more people to look at it before it could be queued up for merge?

It makes sense to split this RFC into series of patches and resend. The series could be shaped up something similar to this:

[PATCH v1 0/4]: perf: enable per-pmu paranoid setting for Intel GPU pmu

[PATCH v1 1/1]: perf/core: introduce pmu specific paranoid settings
- extend pmu kernel object in the headers with the new settings
- adjust code to adopt this new settings

[PATCH v1 1/2]: perf/core: enable pmu specific paranoid setting thru fs
- introduce code interfacing the setting thru fs from userspace
- may be introduce code applying some policies around global/per-pmu relationship

[PATCH v1 1/3]: perf/core: enable i915 GPU pmu specifics features
- implement your specific task related to GPU pmu on top of this new whole concept

[PATCH v1 1/4]: perf/docs: document Intel GPU pmu paranoid specific changes
- some may be regression testing and README or other docs updates related to the changes

Also when sending the patches The Linux kernel security team ([email protected]) needs to be in TO or CC to let the folks know of the changes and possibly explicitly ask support from them.

Regards,
Alexey

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Regards,

Tvrtko

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In reply to Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 41 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 19 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin
Quoted 9 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Tvrtko Ursulin

From: Tvrtko Ursulin <[email protected]>

For situations where sysadmins might want to allow different level of of access control for different PMUs, we start creating per-PMU perf_event_paranoid controls in sysfs.

Could you explain how exactly this makes sense?

Quoted 7 lines

For example, how does it make sense for one PMU to reveal kernel data while another PMU is not allowed.

Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out.

So please explain, in excruciating detail, how you want to use this and how exactly that makes sense from a security pov.

Quoted 7 lines

Not sure it will be excruciating but will try to explain once again.

There are two things:

1. i915 PMU which exports data such as different engine busyness levels. (Perhaps you remember, you helped us implement this from the perf API angle.)

Right, but I completely forgot everything again.. So thanks for reminding.

Quoted 9 lines

2. Customers who want to look at those stats in production.

They want to use it to answer questions such as:

a) How loaded is my server and can it take one more of X type of job?
b) What is the least utilised video engine to submit the next packet of work to?
c) What is the least utilised server to schedule the next transcoding job on?

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On the other hand, do those counters provide enough information for a side-channel (timing) attack on GPGPU workloads? Because, as you say, it is a shared resource. So if user A is doing GPGPU crypto, and user B is observing, might he infer things from the counters?

This question would need to be looked at by security experts. And maybe it would be best to spawn off that effort separately. Because for me the most important question here is whether adding per PMU access control makes security worse, better, or is neutral? At the moment I cannot see that it makes anything worse, since the real-world alternative is to turn all security off. Enabling sysadmins to only relax access to a subset of PMU's I think can at worst be neutral. And if it is not possible to side-channel everything from anything, then it should be better overall security.

In terms of what metrics i915 PMU exposes the current list is this:

1. GPU global counters
1.1 Driver requested frequency and actual GPU frequency 1.2 Time spent in RC6 state
1.3 Interrupt count

2. Per GPU engine counters
2.1 Time spent engine was executing something 2.2 Time spent engine was waiting on semaphores 2.3 Time spent engine was waiting on sync events

In the future we are also considering:

2.4 Number of requests queued / runnable / running

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Current option for them is to turn off the global paranoid setting which then enables unprivileged access to _all_ PMU providers.

Right.

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To me it sounded quite logical that it would be better for the paranoid knob to be more fine-grained, so that they can configure their servers so only access to needed data is possible.

The proposed semantics are a tad awkward though, the moment you prod at the sysctl you loose all individual PMU settings. Ideally the per-pmu would have a special setting that says follow-global in addition to the existing ones.

Hmm.. possibly follow global makes sense for some use cases, but also I do not at the moment see awkwardness in the proposed semantics. The master knob should be only touched by sysadmins so any override of individual settings is a top-level decision, together will all the sub-controls, which is as it should be. If we had follow global, I suspect we would still need to have top-level override so it is basically a discussion on the richness of the controls.

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I am not sure what do you mean by "Once you allow one PMU to do so, the secret is out."? What secret? Are you implying that enabling unprivileged access to i915 engine busyness data opens up access to CPU PMU's as well via some side channel?

It was not i915 specific; but if you look at the descriptions:

* perf event paranoia level:
* -1 - not paranoid at all

  *   0 - disallow raw tracepoint access for unpriv
  *   1 - disallow cpu events for unpriv
  *   2 - disallow kernel profiling for unpriv
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Then the moment you allow some data to escape, it cannot be put back. i915 is fairly special in that (afaict) it doesn't leak kernel specific data

In general I think allowing access to uncore PMUs will leak kernel data. Thus in general I'm fairly wary of all this.

Yeah, I guess I don't follow this argument since I am not relaxing any security criteria. Just adding ability to apply the existing scale per individual PMU provider.

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Is there no other way to expose this information? Can't we do a traditional load-avg like thing for the GPU?

We of course could expose the same data in sysfs, or somewhere, and then control access to it via the filesystem, but we wanted to avoid duplication. Since we picked to export via PMU, ideally we would like to maintain only one mechanism to export the same set data.

Also perf uAPI is pretty handy to use from userspace, where you can read all the interesting counters in one go together with a matching timestamp.

Furthermore I do not see how that would make a difference security wise? If the concern is exposing i915 PMU data to unprivileged users (via explicit sysadmin action!), then the mechanism of exposure shouldn't be important.

The argument may be that the proposed fine-grained control are uninteresting for all other PMU providers, so it is undesirable to burden the perf core with extra code, which I would understand.

Regards,

Tvrtko