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srcu: use cpu_online() instead custom check

DISCUSSION Paul E. McKenney 2 participants 7 messages Nov 1, 2018 – Nov 8, 2018

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The current check via srcu_online is slightly racy because after looking at srcu_online there could be an interrupt that interrupted us long enough until the CPU we checked against went offline.

I don't see how this can happen, even in -rt. The call to srcu_offline_cpu() happens very early in the CPU removal process, which means that the synchronize_rcu_mult(call_rcu, call_rcu_sched) in sched_cpu_deactivate() would wait for the interrupt to complete. And for the enclosing preempt_disable region to complete.

Or is getting rid of that preempt_disable region the real reason for this change?

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An alternative would be to hold the hotplug rwsem (so the CPUs don't change their state) and then check based on cpu_online() if we queue it on a specific CPU or not. queue_work_on() itself can handle if something is enqueued on an offline CPU but a timer which is enqueued on an offline CPU won't fire until the CPU is back online.

I am not sure if the removal in rcu_init() is okay or not. I assume that SRCU won't enqueue a work item before SRCU is up and ready.

That was the case before the current merge window, but use of call_srcu() by tracing means that SRCU needs to be able to deal with call_srcu() long before any initialization has happened. The actual callbacks won't be invoked until much later, after the scheduler and workqueues are completely up and running, but call_srcu() can be invoked very early.

But I am not seeing any removal in rcu_init() in this patch, so I might be missing something.

Thanx, Paul

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kernel/rcu/srcutree.c +4 -18
index 6c9866a854b1..3428a40a813e 100644
@@ -38,6 +38,7 @@
 #include <linux/delay.h>
 #include <linux/module.h>
 #include <linux/srcu.h>
+#include <linux/cpu.h>
 
 #include "rcu.h"
 #include "rcu_segcblist.h"
@@ -458,21 +459,6 @@ static void srcu_gp_start(struct srcu_struct *sp)
 	WARN_ON_ONCE(state != SRCU_STATE_SCAN1);
 }
 
-/*
- * Track online CPUs to guide callback workqueue placement.
- */
-DEFINE_PER_CPU(bool, srcu_online);
-
-void srcu_online_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
-{
-	WRITE_ONCE(per_cpu(srcu_online, cpu), true);
-}
-
-void srcu_offline_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
-{
-	WRITE_ONCE(per_cpu(srcu_online, cpu), false);
-}
-
 /*
  * Place the workqueue handler on the specified CPU if online, otherwise
  * just run it whereever.  This is useful for placing workqueue handlers
@@ -484,12 +470,12 @@ static bool srcu_queue_delayed_work_on(int cpu, struct workqueue_struct *wq,
 {
 	bool ret;
 
-	preempt_disable();
-	if (READ_ONCE(per_cpu(srcu_online, cpu)))
+	cpus_read_lock();
+	if (cpu_online(cpu))
 		ret = queue_delayed_work_on(cpu, wq, dwork, delay);
 	else
 		ret = queue_delayed_work(wq, dwork, delay);
-	preempt_enable();
+	cpus_read_unlock();
 	return ret;
 }
 
kernel/rcu/tree.c +0 -4
index 6868ef417e9f..e2e68250009b 100644
@@ -3767,8 +3767,6 @@ int rcutree_online_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
 		rnp->ffmask |= rdp->grpmask;
 		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore_rcu_node(rnp, flags);
 	}
-	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TREE_SRCU))
-		srcu_online_cpu(cpu);
 	if (rcu_scheduler_active == RCU_SCHEDULER_INACTIVE)
 		return 0; /* Too early in boot for scheduler work. */
 	sync_sched_exp_online_cleanup(cpu);
@@ -3796,8 +3794,6 @@ int rcutree_offline_cpu(unsigned int cpu)
 	}
 
 	rcutree_affinity_setting(cpu, cpu);
-	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TREE_SRCU))
-		srcu_offline_cpu(cpu);
 	return 0;
 }
 
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Quoted 9 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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The current check via srcu_online is slightly racy because after looking at srcu_online there could be an interrupt that interrupted us long enough until the CPU we checked against went offline.

I don't see how this can happen, even in -rt. The call to srcu_offline_cpu() happens very early in the CPU removal process, which means that the synchronize_rcu_mult(call_rcu, call_rcu_sched) in sched_cpu_deactivate() would wait for the interrupt to complete. And for the enclosing preempt_disable region to complete.

Is this again a hidden RCU detail that preempt_disable() on CPU4 is enough to ensure that CPU2 does not get marked offline between?

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Or is getting rid of that preempt_disable region the real reason for this change?

Well, that preempt_disable() + queue_(delayed_)work() does not work -RT. But looking further, that preempt_disable() while looking at online CPUs didn't look good.

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An alternative would be to hold the hotplug rwsem (so the CPUs don't change their state) and then check based on cpu_online() if we queue it on a specific CPU or not. queue_work_on() itself can handle if something is enqueued on an offline CPU but a timer which is enqueued on an offline CPU won't fire until the CPU is back online.

I am not sure if the removal in rcu_init() is okay or not. I assume that SRCU won't enqueue a work item before SRCU is up and ready.

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That was the case before the current merge window, but use of call_srcu() by tracing means that SRCU needs to be able to deal with call_srcu() long before any initialization has happened. The actual callbacks won't be invoked until much later, after the scheduler and workqueues are completely up and running, but call_srcu() can be invoked very early.

But I am not seeing any removal in rcu_init() in this patch, so I might be missing something.

The description is not up-to-date. There was this hunk:

|@@ -4236,8 +4232,6 @@ void __init rcu_init(void)
|       for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
|               rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
|               rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
|-              if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TREE_SRCU))
|-                      srcu_online_cpu(cpu);
|       }
| }

which got removed in v4.16.

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Thanx, Paul

Sebastian

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Quoted 5 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 4 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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The current check via srcu_online is slightly racy because after looking at srcu_online there could be an interrupt that interrupted us long enough until the CPU we checked against went offline.

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I don't see how this can happen, even in -rt. The call to srcu_offline_cpu() happens very early in the CPU removal process, which means that the synchronize_rcu_mult(call_rcu, call_rcu_sched) in sched_cpu_deactivate() would wait for the interrupt to complete. And for the enclosing preempt_disable region to complete.

Is this again a hidden RCU detail that preempt_disable() on CPU4 is enough to ensure that CPU2 does not get marked offline between?

The call_rcu_sched parameter to synchronize_rcu_mult() makes this work. This synchronize_rcu_mult() call is in sched_cpu_deactivate(), so it is a hidden sched/RCU detail, I guess.

Or am I missing the point of your question?

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Or is getting rid of that preempt_disable region the real reason for this change?

Well, that preempt_disable() + queue_(delayed_)work() does not work -RT. But looking further, that preempt_disable() while looking at online CPUs didn't look good.

That is why it is invoked from the very early CPU-hotplug notifier. That early in the process, the preempt_disable() does prevent the current CPU from being taken offline twice: Once due to synchronize_rcu_mult(), and once due to the stop-machine call.

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An alternative would be to hold the hotplug rwsem (so the CPUs don't change their state) and then check based on cpu_online() if we queue it on a specific CPU or not. queue_work_on() itself can handle if something is enqueued on an offline CPU but a timer which is enqueued on an offline CPU won't fire until the CPU is back online.

I am not sure if the removal in rcu_init() is okay or not. I assume that SRCU won't enqueue a work item before SRCU is up and ready.

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That was the case before the current merge window, but use of call_srcu() by tracing means that SRCU needs to be able to deal with call_srcu() long before any initialization has happened. The actual callbacks won't be invoked until much later, after the scheduler and workqueues are completely up and running, but call_srcu() can be invoked very early.

But I am not seeing any removal in rcu_init() in this patch, so I might be missing something.

The description is not up-to-date. There was this hunk:

|@@ -4236,8 +4232,6 @@ void __init rcu_init(void)
|       for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
|               rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
|               rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
|-              if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TREE_SRCU))
|-                      srcu_online_cpu(cpu);
|       }
| }
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which got removed in v4.16.

Ah! Here is the current rcu_init() code:

	for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
		rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
		rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
		rcutree_online_cpu(cpu);
	}

And rcutree_online_cpu() calls srcu_online_cpu() when CONFIG_TREE_SRCU is enabled, so no need for the direct call from rcu_init().

Thanx, Paul

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Quoted 8 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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Is this again a hidden RCU detail that preempt_disable() on CPU4 is enough to ensure that CPU2 does not get marked offline between?

The call_rcu_sched parameter to synchronize_rcu_mult() makes this work. This synchronize_rcu_mult() call is in sched_cpu_deactivate(), so it is a hidden sched/RCU detail, I guess.

Or am I missing the point of your question?

No, this answers it.

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Or is getting rid of that preempt_disable region the real reason for this change?

Well, that preempt_disable() + queue_(delayed_)work() does not work -RT. But looking further, that preempt_disable() while looking at online CPUs didn't look good.

That is why it is invoked from the very early CPU-hotplug notifier. That early in the process, the preempt_disable() does prevent the current CPU from being taken offline twice: Once due to synchronize_rcu_mult(), and once due to the stop-machine call.

:)

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The description is not up-to-date. There was this hunk:

|@@ -4236,8 +4232,6 @@ void __init rcu_init(void)
|       for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
|               rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
|               rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
|-              if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TREE_SRCU))
|-                      srcu_online_cpu(cpu);
|       }
| }

which got removed in v4.16.

Ah! Here is the current rcu_init() code:

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	for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
		rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
		rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
		rcutree_online_cpu(cpu);
	}

And rcutree_online_cpu() calls srcu_online_cpu() when CONFIG_TREE_SRCU is enabled, so no need for the direct call from rcu_init().

So if a CPU goes down, the timer gets migrated to another CPU. If the CPU is already offline the timer can be programmed and nothing happens. If timer_add_on() would return an error we could have fallback code. Looking at the users of queue_delayed_work_on() there are only two using it really (the others are using smp_processor_id()) and one of them is using get_online_cpus().
It does not look like there a lot of users affected. Would be reasonable to avoid adding timers to offlined CPUs?

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Thanx, Paul

Sebastian

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Quoted 49 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 8 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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Is this again a hidden RCU detail that preempt_disable() on CPU4 is enough to ensure that CPU2 does not get marked offline between?

The call_rcu_sched parameter to synchronize_rcu_mult() makes this work. This synchronize_rcu_mult() call is in sched_cpu_deactivate(), so it is a hidden sched/RCU detail, I guess.

Or am I missing the point of your question?

No, this answers it.

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Or is getting rid of that preempt_disable region the real reason for this change?

Well, that preempt_disable() + queue_(delayed_)work() does not work -RT. But looking further, that preempt_disable() while looking at online CPUs didn't look good.

That is why it is invoked from the very early CPU-hotplug notifier. That early in the process, the preempt_disable() does prevent the current CPU from being taken offline twice: Once due to synchronize_rcu_mult(), and once due to the stop-machine call.

:)

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The description is not up-to-date. There was this hunk:

|@@ -4236,8 +4232,6 @@ void __init rcu_init(void)
|       for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
|               rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
|               rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
|-              if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TREE_SRCU))
|-                      srcu_online_cpu(cpu);
|       }
| }

which got removed in v4.16.

Ah! Here is the current rcu_init() code:

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	for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
		rcutree_prepare_cpu(cpu);
		rcu_cpu_starting(cpu);
		rcutree_online_cpu(cpu);
	}

And rcutree_online_cpu() calls srcu_online_cpu() when CONFIG_TREE_SRCU is enabled, so no need for the direct call from rcu_init().

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So if a CPU goes down, the timer gets migrated to another CPU. If the CPU is already offline the timer can be programmed and nothing happens. If timer_add_on() would return an error we could have fallback code. Looking at the users of queue_delayed_work_on() there are only two using it really (the others are using smp_processor_id()) and one of them is using get_online_cpus().
It does not look like there a lot of users affected. Would be reasonable to avoid adding timers to offlined CPUs?

Just to make sure I understand, this is the call to queue_delayed_work_on() from srcu_queue_delayed_work_on(), right?

And if I am guessing correctly, you would like to get rid of the constraint requiring CPUHP_RCUTREE_PREP to precede CPUHP_TIMERS_PREPARE? If so, the swait_event_idle_timeout_exclusive() in rcu_gp_fqs_loop() in kernel/rcu/tree.c also requires this ordering. There are probably other pieces of code needing this.

Plus the reason for running this on a specific CPU is that the workqueue item is processing that CPU's per-CPU variables, including invoking that CPU's callbacks. The item is srcu_invoke_callbacks().

Thanx, Paul

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Quoted 2 lines · Paul E. McKenney

Just to make sure I understand, this is the call to queue_delayed_work_on() from srcu_queue_delayed_work_on(), right?

correct.

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And if I am guessing correctly, you would like to get rid of the constraint requiring CPUHP_RCUTREE_PREP to precede CPUHP_TIMERS_PREPARE?

no, my problem is the preempt_disable() around queue_delayed_work_on(). If the CPUs goes offline _after_ queue_delayed_work_on() then the timer gets migrated and work item should show up on another CPU. If the CPU is offline at queue_delayed_work_on() time then the timer gets enqueued and won't fire until the CPU is back online and I *think* that is the reason behind this "is CPU online" check.

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If so, the swait_event_idle_timeout_exclusive() in rcu_gp_fqs_loop() in kernel/rcu/tree.c also requires this ordering. There are probably other pieces of code needing this.

Plus the reason for running this on a specific CPU is that the workqueue item is processing that CPU's per-CPU variables, including invoking that CPU's callbacks. The item is srcu_invoke_callbacks().

The SRCU callback is invoking per-CPU variables? Like this_cpu_ptr()? But if the CPU is offline then you fallback to queue_delayed_work()?

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Thanx, Paul

Sebastian

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Quoted 9 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 2 lines · Paul E. McKenney

Just to make sure I understand, this is the call to queue_delayed_work_on() from srcu_queue_delayed_work_on(), right?

correct.

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And if I am guessing correctly, you would like to get rid of the constraint requiring CPUHP_RCUTREE_PREP to precede CPUHP_TIMERS_PREPARE?

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no, my problem is the preempt_disable() around queue_delayed_work_on(). If the CPUs goes offline _after_ queue_delayed_work_on() then the timer gets migrated and work item should show up on another CPU. If the CPU is offline at queue_delayed_work_on() time then the timer gets enqueued and won't fire until the CPU is back online and I *think* that is the reason behind this "is CPU online" check.

The main reason for the "is CPU online" check was that workqueues would very rarely splat when I tried running without it. I did report this to Tejun. You could try just calling queue_delayed_work_on() without the check, but this is a 10s of hours rcutorture splat if I remember correctly.

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If so, the swait_event_idle_timeout_exclusive() in rcu_gp_fqs_loop() in kernel/rcu/tree.c also requires this ordering. There are probably other pieces of code needing this.

Plus the reason for running this on a specific CPU is that the workqueue item is processing that CPU's per-CPU variables, including invoking that CPU's callbacks. The item is srcu_invoke_callbacks().

The SRCU callback is invoking per-CPU variables? Like this_cpu_ptr()? But if the CPU is offline then you fallback to queue_delayed_work()?

Yes, yes, and yes. ;-)

The callbacks are queued on a per-CPU basis.

Thanx, Paul