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ELF: warn if process starts with executable stack

PATCH In review Alexey Dobriyan 6 participants 10 messages Nov 18, 2019 – Dec 8, 2019

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#0 lore raw

PATCH 1/1 ELF: warn if process starts with executable stack

PT_GNU_STACK is fail open design, at least warn people that something isn't right.

---

 fs/exec.c |    7 +++++++
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
fs/exec.c +7 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,13 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_MMU
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}
+#endif
+
 	/* Move stack pages down in memory. */
 	if (stack_shift) {
 		ret = shift_arg_pages(vma, stack_shift);
#1 lore raw
Quoted 12 lines · Alexey Dobriyan

PT_GNU_STACK is fail open design, at least warn people that something isn't right.

---

  fs/exec.c |    7 +++++++
  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)

fs/exec.c int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm, · line 764

Quoted 3 lines
fs/exec.c +0 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,13 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
  		goto out_unlock;
  	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 

it might be worth to use:
if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_MMU) && vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {

instead of the #ifdef

Quoted 11 lines
fs/exec.c +7 -0
+#ifdef CONFIG_MMU
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}
+#endif
+
  	/* Move stack pages down in memory. */
  	if (stack_shift) {
  		ret = shift_arg_pages(vma, stack_shift);
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#2 lore raw
In reply to Alexey Dobriyan
Quoted 1 line · On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:15 +0300 Alexey Dobriyan <[email protected]> wrote:

PT_GNU_STACK is fail open design,

Not sure what this means. Please expand on the motivation for this change.

Quoted 2 lines

at least warn people that something
isn't right.

People who use an executable stack get a kernel splat. How is that useful?

Quoted 18 lines

...

fs/exec.c +6 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,13 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_MMU
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}
+#endif
 
 	/* Move stack pages down in memory. */
 	if (stack_shift) {
 		ret = shift_arg_pages(vma, stack_shift);
#3 lore raw
Quoted 4 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 1 line · On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 17:51:15 +0300 Alexey Dobriyan <[email protected]> wrote:

PT_GNU_STACK is fail open design,

Quoted 8 lines

Not sure what this means. Please expand on the motivation for this change.

Quoted 2 lines

at least warn people that something
isn't right.

People who use an executable stack get a kernel splat. How is that useful?

There were two stories about silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1)
compiling .S file and linking it to normal code:

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret

will silently add PT_GNU_STACK segment with RWE permissions

2)
closures with nested functions will require executable stack
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

Quoted 7 lines

fs/exec.c int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm, · line 765

Quoted 7 lines
fs/exec.c +1 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,13 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_MMU

This code is already under CONFIG_MMU. I'll resend.

#4 lore raw

PATCH 1/1 exec: warn if process starts with executable stack

In reply to Andrew Morton

There were few episodes of silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1) linking innocent looking assembly file

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret
	$ cat main.c
	void f(void);
	int main(void)
	{
	        f();
	        return 0;
	}
	$ gcc main.c f.S
	$ readelf -l ./a.out
	  GNU_STACK      0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
                         0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000  RWE    0x10

2) converting C99 nested function into a closure
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

	void intsort2(int *base, size_t nmemb, _Bool invert)
	{
	    int cmp(const void *a, const void *b)
	    {
	        int r = *(int *)a - *(int *)b;
	        return invert ? -r : r;
	    }
	    qsort(base, nmemb, sizeof(*base), cmp);
	}

will silently require stack trampolines while non-closure version will not.

While without a double this behaviour is documented somewhere, add a warning so that developers and users can at least notice. After so many years of x86_64 having proper executable stack support it should not cause too much problems.

If the system is old or CPU is old, then there will be an early warning against init and/or support personnel will write that "uh-oh, our Enterprise Software absolutely requires executable stack" and close tickets and customers will nod heads and life moves on.

---

 fs/exec.c |    5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
fs/exec.c +5 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,11 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}
+
 	/* Move stack pages down in memory. */
 	if (stack_shift) {
 		ret = shift_arg_pages(vma, stack_shift);
#5 lore raw

Re: [PATCH] exec: warn if process starts with executable stack

Quoted 37 lines · Alexey Dobriyan

There were few episodes of silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1) linking innocent looking assembly file

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret
	$ cat main.c
	void f(void);
	int main(void)
	{
	        f();
	        return 0;
	}
	$ gcc main.c f.S
	$ readelf -l ./a.out
	  GNU_STACK      0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
                         0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000  RWE    0x10

2) converting C99 nested function into a closure
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

	void intsort2(int *base, size_t nmemb, _Bool invert)
	{
	    int cmp(const void *a, const void *b)
	    {
	        int r = *(int *)a - *(int *)b;
	        return invert ? -r : r;
	    }
	    qsort(base, nmemb, sizeof(*base), cmp);
	}
Quoted 3 lines

will silently require stack trampolines while non-closure version will not.

While without a double this behaviour is documented somewhere, add a warning

                  ^^^^^^

doubt

Quoted 8 lines

so that developers and users can at least notice. After so many years of x86_64 having proper executable stack support it should not cause too much problems.

If the system is old or CPU is old, then there will be an early warning against init and/or support personnel will write that "uh-oh, our Enterprise Software absolutely requires executable stack" and close tickets and customers will nod heads and life moves on.

regards,
dan carpenter

#6 lore raw

Re: [PATCH] exec: warn if process starts with executable stack

In reply to Alexey Dobriyan
Quoted 57 lines · Alexey Dobriyan

There were few episodes of silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1) linking innocent looking assembly file

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret
	$ cat main.c
	void f(void);
	int main(void)
	{
	        f();
	        return 0;
	}
	$ gcc main.c f.S
	$ readelf -l ./a.out
	  GNU_STACK      0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
                         0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000  RWE    0x10

2) converting C99 nested function into a closure
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

	void intsort2(int *base, size_t nmemb, _Bool invert)
	{
	    int cmp(const void *a, const void *b)
	    {
	        int r = *(int *)a - *(int *)b;
	        return invert ? -r : r;
	    }
	    qsort(base, nmemb, sizeof(*base), cmp);
	}

will silently require stack trampolines while non-closure version will not.

While without a double this behaviour is documented somewhere, add a warning so that developers and users can at least notice. After so many years of x86_64 having proper executable stack support it should not cause too much problems.

If the system is old or CPU is old, then there will be an early warning against init and/or support personnel will write that "uh-oh, our Enterprise Software absolutely requires executable stack" and close tickets and customers will nod heads and life moves on.

---

 fs/exec.c |    5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)

fs/exec.c int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm, · line 768

Quoted 7 lines
fs/exec.c +4 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,11 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}

Given that this is triggerable by userspace, is there a concern about PID namespaces here?

Will

#7 lore raw

Re: [PATCH] exec: warn if process starts with executable stack

Quoted 61 lines · Will Deacon
Quoted 60 lines · Alexey Dobriyan

There were few episodes of silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1) linking innocent looking assembly file

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret
	$ cat main.c
	void f(void);
	int main(void)
	{
	        f();
	        return 0;
	}
	$ gcc main.c f.S
	$ readelf -l ./a.out
	  GNU_STACK      0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
                         0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000  RWE    0x10

2) converting C99 nested function into a closure
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

	void intsort2(int *base, size_t nmemb, _Bool invert)
	{
	    int cmp(const void *a, const void *b)
	    {
	        int r = *(int *)a - *(int *)b;
	        return invert ? -r : r;
	    }
	    qsort(base, nmemb, sizeof(*base), cmp);
	}

will silently require stack trampolines while non-closure version will not.

While without a double this behaviour is documented somewhere, add a warning so that developers and users can at least notice. After so many years of x86_64 having proper executable stack support it should not cause too much problems.

If the system is old or CPU is old, then there will be an early warning against init and/or support personnel will write that "uh-oh, our Enterprise Software absolutely requires executable stack" and close tickets and customers will nod heads and life moves on.

---

 fs/exec.c |    5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
fs/exec.c +0 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,11 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
Quoted 7 lines

fs/exec.c int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm, · line 768

Quoted 4 lines
fs/exec.c +4 -0
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}

Given that this is triggerable by userspace, is there a concern about PID namespaces here?

In what sense? Are you thinking about the printing of the pid?

Pretty much by fiat and by definition the kernel log always print things in the initial pid namespace. Which this printk does.

Eric

#8 lore raw

Re: [PATCH] exec: warn if process starts with executable stack

Quoted 71 lines · Eric W. Biederman
Quoted 61 lines · Will Deacon
Quoted 60 lines · Alexey Dobriyan

There were few episodes of silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1) linking innocent looking assembly file

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret
	$ cat main.c
	void f(void);
	int main(void)
	{
	        f();
	        return 0;
	}
	$ gcc main.c f.S
	$ readelf -l ./a.out
	  GNU_STACK      0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
                         0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000  RWE    0x10

2) converting C99 nested function into a closure
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

	void intsort2(int *base, size_t nmemb, _Bool invert)
	{
	    int cmp(const void *a, const void *b)
	    {
	        int r = *(int *)a - *(int *)b;
	        return invert ? -r : r;
	    }
	    qsort(base, nmemb, sizeof(*base), cmp);
	}

will silently require stack trampolines while non-closure version will not.

While without a double this behaviour is documented somewhere, add a warning so that developers and users can at least notice. After so many years of x86_64 having proper executable stack support it should not cause too much problems.

If the system is old or CPU is old, then there will be an early warning against init and/or support personnel will write that "uh-oh, our Enterprise Software absolutely requires executable stack" and close tickets and customers will nod heads and life moves on.

---

 fs/exec.c |    5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
fs/exec.c +0 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,11 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
Quoted 7 lines

fs/exec.c int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm, · line 768

Quoted 4 lines
fs/exec.c +4 -0
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}

Given that this is triggerable by userspace, is there a concern about PID namespaces here?

Quoted 4 lines

In what sense? Are you thinking about the printing of the pid?

Pretty much by fiat and by definition the kernel log always print things in the initial pid namespace. Which this printk does.

Ok, fair enough. Just wanted to make sure it was ok, since we're not using a task_pid_nr*() accessor and it might have been overlooked.

Will

Will

#9 lore raw

Re: [PATCH] exec: warn if process starts with executable stack

Quoted 72 lines · Will Deacon
Quoted 71 lines · Eric W. Biederman
Quoted 68 lines · Will Deacon
Quoted 57 lines · Alexey Dobriyan

There were few episodes of silent downgrade to an executable stack:

1) linking innocent looking assembly file

	$ cat f.S
	.intel_syntax noprefix
	.text
	.globl f
	f:
	        ret
	$ cat main.c
	void f(void);
	int main(void)
	{
	        f();
	        return 0;
	}
	$ gcc main.c f.S
	$ readelf -l ./a.out
	  GNU_STACK      0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000
                         0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000  RWE    0x10

2) converting C99 nested function into a closure
https://nullprogram.com/blog/2019/11/15/

	void intsort2(int *base, size_t nmemb, _Bool invert)
	{
	    int cmp(const void *a, const void *b)
	    {
	        int r = *(int *)a - *(int *)b;
	        return invert ? -r : r;
	    }
	    qsort(base, nmemb, sizeof(*base), cmp);
	}

will silently require stack trampolines while non-closure version will not.

While without a double this behaviour is documented somewhere, add a warning so that developers and users can at least notice. After so many years of x86_64 having proper executable stack support it should not cause too much problems.

If the system is old or CPU is old, then there will be an early warning against init and/or support personnel will write that "uh-oh, our Enterprise Software absolutely requires executable stack" and close tickets and customers will nod heads and life moves on.

---

 fs/exec.c |    5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)

fs/exec.c int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm, · line 768

Quoted 7 lines
fs/exec.c +4 -0
@@ -762,6 +762,11 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm *bprm,
 		goto out_unlock;
 	BUG_ON(prev != vma);
 
+	if (vm_flags & VM_EXEC) {
+		pr_warn_once("process '%s'/%u started with executable stack\n",
+			     current->comm, current->pid);
+	}

Given that this is triggerable by userspace, is there a concern about PID namespaces here?

Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines

In what sense? Are you thinking about the printing of the pid?

Pretty much by fiat and by definition the kernel log always print things in the initial pid namespace. Which this printk does.

Ok, fair enough. Just wanted to make sure it was ok, since we're not using a task_pid_nr*() accessor and it might have been overlooked.

PID is printed both as ->pid and a task_pid_vnr().
I'll just print filename, so that executable can be easily found.