arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME
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This series introduces a KVM CAP for steal time to arm64 and x86. For arm64 the cap resolves a couple issues described in the second patch's commit message. The cap isn't necessary for x86, but is added for consistency.
Thanks,
drew
Andrew Jones (4):
KVM: Documentation minor fixups
arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
tools headers kvm: Sync linux/kvm.h with the kernel sources
KVM: selftests: Use KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME
Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 20 ++++++++++++++++---- arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + tools/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 15 +++++++++++++++ tools/testing/selftests/kvm/steal_time.c | 8 ++++++++ 6 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
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PATCH 1/4 KVM: Documentation minor fixups
--- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 9 +++++---- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +5 -4
@@ -6121,7 +6121,7 @@ HvCallSendSyntheticClusterIpi, HvCallSendSyntheticClusterIpiEx. 8.21 KVM_CAP_HYPERV_DIRECT_TLBFLUSH ----------------------------------- -:Architecture: x86 +:Architectures: x86 This capability indicates that KVM running on top of Hyper-V hypervisor enables Direct TLB flush for its guests meaning that TLB flush
@@ -6134,16 +6134,17 @@ in CPUID and only exposes Hyper-V identification. In this case, guest thinks it's running on Hyper-V and only use Hyper-V hypercalls. 8.22 KVM_CAP_S390_VCPU_RESETS +----------------------------- -Architectures: s390 +:Architectures: s390 This capability indicates that the KVM_S390_NORMAL_RESET and KVM_S390_CLEAR_RESET ioctls are available. 8.23 KVM_CAP_S390_PROTECTED +--------------------------- -Architecture: s390 - +:Architectures: s390 This capability indicates that the Ultravisor has been initialized and KVM can therefore start protected VMs.
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PATCH 2/4 arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
In reply to Andrew Jonesarm64 requires a vcpu fd (KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTR vcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked. Additionally, when probing steal time we should check delayacct_on, because even though CONFIG_KVM selects TASK_DELAY_ACCT, it's possible for the host kernel to have delay accounting disabled with the 'nodelayacct' command line option. x86 already determines support for steal time by checking delayacct_on and can already probe steal time support with a kvm fd (KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID), but we add the cap there too for consistency.
--- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 11 +++++++++++ arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + 4 files changed, 18 insertions(+)
Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +11 -0
@@ -6151,3 +6151,14 @@ KVM can therefore start protected VMs. This capability governs the KVM_S390_PV_COMMAND ioctl and the KVM_MP_STATE_LOAD MP_STATE. KVM_SET_MP_STATE can fail for protected guests when the state change is invalid. + +8.24 KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME +----------------------- + +:Architectures: arm64, x86 + +This capability indicates that KVM supports steal time accounting. +When steal time accounting is supported it may be enabled with +architecture-specific interfaces. For x86 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst "MSR_KVM_STEAL_TIME". For arm64 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/devices/vcpu.rst "KVM_ARM_VCPU_PVTIME_CTRL"
arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +3 -0
@@ -222,6 +222,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)*/ r =1 ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default : r =kvm_arch_vm_ioctl_check_extension (kvm, ext);break ;
arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +3 -0
@@ -3533,6 +3533,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS : r = kvm_x86_ops.nested_ops->enable_evmcs !=NULL ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default :break ; }
include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +1 -0
@@ -1031,6 +1031,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {#define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181#define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182#define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTING
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Marc Zyngier
maintainerRe: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
Hi Andrew,
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Jones
arm64 requires a vcpu fd (
KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTRvcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked.
So this is purely an API convenience, right? You want a way to identify the presence of steal time accounting without having to create a vcpu? It would have been nice to have this requirement before we merged this code :-(.
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Additionally, when probing
steal time we should checkdelayacct_on, because even thoughCONFIG_KVMselectsTASK_DELAY_ACCT, it's possible for the host kernel to have delay accounting disabled with the 'nodelayacct' command line option. x86 already determines support for steal time by checkingdelayacct_onand can already probe steal time support with a kvm fd (KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID), but we add the cap there too for consistency.Signed-off-by Andrew Jones <[email protected]>--- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 11 +++++++++++ arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + 4 files changed, 18 insertions(+)Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +11
-0@@ -6151,3 +6151,14 @@ KVM can therefore start protected VMs. This capability governs the KVM_S390_PV_COMMAND ioctl and the KVM_MP_STATE_LOAD MP_STATE. KVM_SET_MP_STATE can fail for protected guests when the state change is invalid. + +8.24 KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME +----------------------- + +:Architectures: arm64, x86 + +This capability indicates that KVM supports steal time accounting. +When steal time accounting is supported it may be enabled with +architecture-specific interfaces. For x86 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst "MSR_KVM_STEAL_TIME". For arm64 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/devices/vcpu.rst "KVM_ARM_VCPU_PVTIME_CTRL"arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +3
-0@@ -222,6 +222,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm,long ext) */ r =1 ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default : r =kvm_arch_vm_ioctl_check_extension (kvm, ext);arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +0
-0break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +3
-0@@ -3533,6 +3533,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS : r = kvm_x86_ops.nested_ops->enable_evmcs !=NULL ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default :break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +0
-0}include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +0
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include/uapi/linux/kvm.h struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt { · line 1036
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include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +1
-0@@ -1031,6 +1031,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {#define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181#define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182#define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTING
Shouldn't you also add the same check of sched_info_on() to the various pvtime attribute handling functions? It feels odd that the capability can say "no", and yet we'd accept userspace messing with the steal time parameters...
Thanks,
M.
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Re: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
Quoted 3 lines · Marc Zyngier
Hi Andrew,
On 2020-06-19 19:46, Andrew Jones wrote:
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include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +1
-0@@ -1031,6 +1031,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt { #define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181 #define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182 #define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184
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include/uapi/linux/kvm.h struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt { · line 1036
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-0#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTINGShouldn't you also add the same check of
sched_info_on()to the various pvtime attribute handling functions? It feels odd that the capability can say "no", and yet we'd accept userspace messing with the steal time parameters...
My thought was that to some extent the two are separate. KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME is "we have stolen time _AND_ it returns meaningful numbers", KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTR(KVM_ARM_VCPU_PVTIME_IPA) is (unfortunately) "we have the stolen interface, but it might not show how much time is stolen". Restoring a VM on a host with VCPU_PVTIME_IPA but without KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME is possible just won't provide any stolen time data (the SMC calls will still work and the data format is valid).
Obviously with hindsight I would have done this differently...
Steve
Re: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
In reply to Marc ZyngierQuoted 9 lines · Marc Zyngier
Hi Andrew,
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Jones
arm64 requires a vcpu fd (
KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTRvcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked.
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So this is purely an API convenience, right? You want a way to identify the presence of steal time accounting without having to create a vcpu? It would have been nice to have this requirement before we merged this code :-(.
Yes. I wish I had considered it more closely when I was reviewing the patches. And, I believe we have yet another user interface issue that I'm looking at now. Without the VCPU feature bit I'm not sure how easy it will be for a migration to fail when attempting to migrate from a host with steal-time enabled to one that does not support steal-time. So it's starting to look like steal-time should have followed the pmu pattern completely, not just the vcpu device ioctl part.
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Additionally, when probing
steal time we should checkdelayacct_on, because even thoughCONFIG_KVMselectsTASK_DELAY_ACCT, it's possible for the host kernel to have delay accounting disabled with the 'nodelayacct' command line option. x86 already determines support for steal time by checkingdelayacct_onand can already probe steal time support with a kvm fd (KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID), but we add the cap there too for consistency.Signed-off-by Andrew Jones <[email protected]>--- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 11 +++++++++++ arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + 4 files changed, 18 insertions(+)Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +11
-0@@ -6151,3 +6151,14 @@ KVM can therefore start protected VMs. This capability governs the KVM_S390_PV_COMMAND ioctl and the KVM_MP_STATE_LOAD MP_STATE. KVM_SET_MP_STATE can fail for protected guests when the state change is invalid. + +8.24 KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME +----------------------- + +:Architectures: arm64, x86 + +This capability indicates that KVM supports steal time accounting. +When steal time accounting is supported it may be enabled with +architecture-specific interfaces. For x86 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst "MSR_KVM_STEAL_TIME". For arm64 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/devices/vcpu.rst "KVM_ARM_VCPU_PVTIME_CTRL"arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +3
-0@@ -222,6 +222,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm,long ext) */ r =1 ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default : r =kvm_arch_vm_ioctl_check_extension (kvm, ext);arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +0
-0break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +3
-0@@ -3533,6 +3533,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS : r = kvm_x86_ops.nested_ops->enable_evmcs !=NULL ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default :break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +0
-0}include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +1
-0@@ -1031,6 +1031,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {#define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181#define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182#define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184
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include/uapi/linux/kvm.h struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt { · line 1036
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-0#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTING Shouldn't you also add the same check of
sched_info_on()to the various pvtime attribute handling functions? It feels odd that the capability can say "no", and yet we'd accept userspace messing with the steal time parameters...
I considered that, but the 'has attr' interface is really only asking if the interface exists, not if it should be used. I'm not sure what we should do about it other than document that the cap needs to say it's usable, rather than just the attr presence. But, since we've had the attr merged quite a while without the cap, then maybe we can't rely on a doc change alone?
Thanks,
drew
Marc Zyngier
maintainerRe: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
Quoted 15 lines · Andrew Jones
Quoted 9 lines · Marc Zyngier
Hi Andrew,
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Jones
arm64 requires a vcpu fd (
KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTRvcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked.Quoted 4 lines
So this is purely an API convenience, right? You want a way to identify the presence of steal time accounting without having to create a vcpu? It would have been nice to have this requirement before we merged this code :-(.
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Yes. I wish I had considered it more closely when I was reviewing the patches. And, I believe we have yet another user interface issue that I'm looking at now. Without the VCPU feature bit I'm not sure how easy it will be for a migration to fail when attempting to migrate from a host with steal-time enabled to one that does not support steal-time. So it's starting to look like steal-time should have followed the pmu pattern completely, not just the vcpu device ioctl part.
Should we consider disabling steal time altogether until this is worked out?
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Additionally, when probing
steal time we should checkdelayacct_on, because even thoughCONFIG_KVMselectsTASK_DELAY_ACCT, it's possible for the host kernel to have delay accounting disabled with the 'nodelayacct' command line option. x86 already determines support for steal time by checkingdelayacct_onand can already probe steal time support with a kvm fd (KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID), but we add the cap there too for consistency.Signed-off-by Andrew Jones <[email protected]>--- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 11 +++++++++++ arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + 4 files changed, 18 insertions(+)Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +11
-0@@ -6151,3 +6151,14 @@ KVM can therefore start protected VMs. This capability governs the KVM_S390_PV_COMMAND ioctl and the KVM_MP_STATE_LOAD MP_STATE. KVM_SET_MP_STATE can fail for protected guests when the state change is invalid. + +8.24 KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME +----------------------- + +:Architectures: arm64, x86 + +This capability indicates that KVM supports steal time accounting. +When steal time accounting is supported it may be enabled with +architecture-specific interfaces. For x86 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst "MSR_KVM_STEAL_TIME". For arm64 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/devices/vcpu.rst "KVM_ARM_VCPU_PVTIME_CTRL"arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +3
-0@@ -222,6 +222,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm,long ext) */ r =1 ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default : r =kvm_arch_vm_ioctl_check_extension (kvm, ext);arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +0
-0break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +3
-0@@ -3533,6 +3533,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS : r = kvm_x86_ops.nested_ops->enable_evmcs !=NULL ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default :break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +0
-0}include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +1
-0@@ -1031,6 +1031,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {#define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181#define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182#define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184Quoted 6 lines
include/uapi/linux/kvm.h struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt { · line 1036
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-0#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTING Shouldn't you also add the same check of
sched_info_on()to the various pvtime attribute handling functions? It feels odd that the capability can say "no", and yet we'd accept userspace messing with the steal time parameters...
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I considered that, but the 'has attr' interface is really only asking if the interface exists, not if it should be used. I'm not sure what we should do about it other than document that the cap needs to say it's usable, rather than just the attr presence. But, since we've had the attr merged quite a while without the cap, then maybe we can't rely on a doc change alone?
Accepting the pvtime attributes (setting up the per-vcpu area) has two
effects: we promise both the guest and userspace that we will provide the guest with steal time. By not checking sched_info_on(), we lie to both, with potential consequences. It really feels like a bug.
Thanks,
M.
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Re: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
Quoted 25 lines · Marc Zyngier
Quoted 15 lines · Andrew Jones
Quoted 9 lines · Marc Zyngier
Hi Andrew,
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Jones
arm64 requires a vcpu fd (
KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTRvcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked.Quoted 4 lines
So this is purely an API convenience, right? You want a way to identify the presence of steal time accounting without having to create a vcpu? It would have been nice to have this requirement before we merged this code :-(.
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Yes. I wish I had considered it more closely when I was reviewing the patches. And, I believe we have yet another user interface issue that I'm looking at now. Without the VCPU feature bit I'm not sure how easy it will be for a migration to fail when attempting to migrate from a host
with steal-time enabled to one that does not support steal-time. So it's starting to look like steal-time should have followed the pmu pattern completely, not just the vcpu device ioctl part.
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Should we consider disabling steal time altogether until this is worked out?
I think we can leave it alone and just try to resolve it before merging QEMU patches (which I'm working on now). It doesn't look like kvmtool or rust-vmm (the only other two KVM userspaces I'm paying some attention to) do anything with steal-time yet, so they won't notice. And, I'm not sure disabling steal-time for any other userspaces is better than just trying to keep them working the best we can while improving the uapi.
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Additionally, when probing
steal time we should checkdelayacct_on, because even thoughCONFIG_KVMselectsTASK_DELAY_ACCT, it's possible for the host kernel to have delay accounting disabled with the 'nodelayacct' command line option. x86 already determines support for steal time by checkingdelayacct_onand can already probe steal time support with a kvm fd (KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID), but we add the cap there too for consistency.Signed-off-by Andrew Jones <[email protected]>--- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 11 +++++++++++ arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + 4 files changed, 18 insertions(+)Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +11
-0@@ -6151,3 +6151,14 @@ KVM can therefore start protected VMs. This capability governs the KVM_S390_PV_COMMAND ioctl and the KVM_MP_STATE_LOAD MP_STATE. KVM_SET_MP_STATE can fail for protected guests when the state change is invalid. + +8.24 KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME +----------------------- + +:Architectures: arm64, x86 + +This capability indicates that KVM supports steal time accounting. +When steal time accounting is supported it may be enabled with +architecture-specific interfaces. For x86 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst "MSR_KVM_STEAL_TIME". For arm64 see +Documentation/virt/kvm/devices/vcpu.rst "KVM_ARM_VCPU_PVTIME_CTRL"arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +3
-0@@ -222,6 +222,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm,long ext) */ r =1 ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default : r =kvm_arch_vm_ioctl_check_extension (kvm, ext);arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c +0
-0break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +3
-0@@ -3533,6 +3533,9 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_check_extension(struct kvm *kvm, long ext)case KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS : r = kvm_x86_ops.nested_ops->enable_evmcs !=NULL ;break ; +case KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME : + r =sched_info_on (); +break ;default :break ;arch/x86/kvm/x86.c +0
-0}include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +1
-0@@ -1031,6 +1031,7 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {#define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181#define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182#define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184Quoted 6 lines
include/uapi/linux/kvm.h struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt { · line 1036
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-0#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTING Shouldn't you also add the same check of
sched_info_on()to the various pvtime attribute handling functions? It feels odd that the capability can say "no", and yet we'd accept userspace messing with the steal time parameters...Quoted 6 lines
I considered that, but the 'has attr' interface is really only asking if the interface exists, not if it should be used. I'm not sure what we should do about it other than document that the cap needs to say it's usable, rather than just the attr presence. But, since we've had the attr merged quite a while without the cap, then maybe we can't rely on a doc change alone?
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Accepting the pvtime attributes (setting up the per-vcpu area) has two
effects: we promise both the guest and userspace that we will provide the guest with steal time. By not checkingsched_info_on(), we lie to both, with potential consequences. It really feels like a bug.
Yes, I agree now. Again, following the pmu pattern looks best here. The pmu will report that it doesn't have the attr support when its underlying kernel support (perf counters) doesn't exist. That's a direct analogy with steal-time relying on sched_info_on().
I'll work up another version of this series doing that, but before posting I'll look at the migration issue a bit more and likely post something for that as well.
Thanks,
drew
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Marc Zyngier
maintainerRe: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
Quoted 26 lines · Andrew Jones
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Quoted 9 lines · Marc Zyngier
Hi Andrew,
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Jones
arm64 requires a vcpu fd (
KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTRvcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked.Quoted 4 lines
So this is purely an API convenience, right? You want a way to identify the presence of steal time accounting without having to create a vcpu? It would have been nice to have this requirement before we merged this code :-(.
Yes. I wish I had considered it more closely when I was reviewing the patches. And, I believe we have yet another user interface issue that I'm looking at now. Without the VCPU feature bit I'm not sure how easy it will be for a migration to fail when attempting to migrate from a host
with steal-time enabled to one that does not support steal-time. So it's starting to look like steal-time should have followed the pmu pattern completely, not just the vcpu device ioctl part.
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Should we consider disabling steal time altogether until this is worked out?
I think we can leave it alone and just try to resolve it before merging QEMU patches (which I'm working on now). It doesn't look like kvmtool or rust-vmm (the only other two KVM userspaces I'm paying some attention to) do anything with steal-time yet, so they won't notice. And, I'm not sure disabling steal-time for any other userspaces is better than just trying to keep them working the best we can while improving the uapi.
Is it only migration that is affected? Or do you see issues that would affect non-migrating userspace?
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Accepting the pvtime attributes (setting up the per-vcpu area) has two
effects: we promise both the guest and userspace that we will provide the guest with steal time. By not checkingsched_info_on(), we lie to both, with potential consequences. It really feels like a bug.Yes, I agree now. Again, following the pmu pattern looks best here. The pmu will report that it doesn't have the attr support when its underlying kernel support (perf counters) doesn't exist. That's a direct analogy with steal-time relying on
sched_info_on().
Indeed. I'd be happy to take a fix early if you can spin one.
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I'll work up another version of this series doing that, but before posting I'll look at the migration issue a bit more and likely post something for that as well.
OK. I'll park this series for now.
Thanks,
M.
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Re: [PATCH 2/4] arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
Quoted 38 lines · Marc Zyngier
Quoted 29 lines · Andrew Jones
Quoted 25 lines · Marc Zyngier
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Quoted 9 lines · Marc Zyngier
Hi Andrew,
Quoted 5 lines · Andrew Jones
arm64 requires a vcpu fd (
KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTRvcpu ioctl) to probe support for steal time. However this is unnecessary and complicates userspace (userspace may prefer delaying vcpu creation until after feature probing). Since probing steal time only requires a KVM fd, we introduce a cap that can be checked.Quoted 4 lines
So this is purely an API convenience, right? You want a way to identify the presence of steal time accounting without having to create a vcpu? It would have been nice to have this requirement before we merged this code :-(.
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Yes. I wish I had considered it more closely when I was reviewing the patches. And, I believe we have yet another user interface issue that I'm looking at now. Without the VCPU feature bit I'm not sure how easy it will be for a migration to fail when attempting to migrate from a host
with steal-time enabled to one that does not support steal-time. So it's starting to look like steal-time should have followed the pmu pattern completely, not just the vcpu device ioctl part.Quoted 2 lines
Should we consider disabling steal time altogether until this is worked out?
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I think we can leave it alone and just try to resolve it before merging QEMU patches (which I'm working on now). It doesn't look like kvmtool or rust-vmm (the only other two KVM userspaces I'm paying some attention to)
do anything with steal-time yet, so they won't notice. And, I'm not sure disabling steal-time for any other userspaces is better than just trying to keep them working the best we can while improving the uapi.
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Is it only migration that is affected? Or do you see issues that would affect non-migrating userspace?
If we don't consider the need to check sched_info_on(), then other than the probing requiring a vcpu fd (which isn't a show stopper, just not super convenient), then I don't see any other issues for non-migrating userspace.
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Accepting the pvtime attributes (setting up the per-vcpu area) has two
effects: we promise both the guest and userspace that we will provide the guest with steal time. By not checkingsched_info_on(), we lie to both, with potential consequences. It really feels like a bug.
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Yes, I agree now. Again, following the pmu pattern looks best here. The pmu will report that it doesn't have the attr support when its underlying
kernel support (perf counters) doesn't exist. That's a direct analogy with
steal-time relying onsched_info_on().Indeed. I'd be happy to take a fix early if you can spin one.
I'll post just that patch now then.
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I'll work up another version of this series doing that, but before posting
I'll look at the migration issue a bit more and likely post something for
that as well.OK. I'll park this series for now.
Thanks,
drew
PATCH 3/4 tools headers kvm: Sync linux/kvm.h with the kernel sources
In reply to Andrew Jones--- tools/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 15 +++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
tools/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h +15 -0
@@ -188,10 +188,13 @@ struct kvm_s390_cmma_log { struct kvm_hyperv_exit { #define KVM_EXIT_HYPERV_SYNIC 1 #define KVM_EXIT_HYPERV_HCALL 2 +#define KVM_EXIT_HYPERV_SYNDBG 3 __u32 type; + __u32 pad1; union { struct { __u32 msr; + __u32 pad2; __u64 control; __u64 evt_page; __u64 msg_page;
@@ -201,6 +204,15 @@ struct kvm_hyperv_exit {__u64 result;__u64 params[2 ]; } hcall; +struct { +__u32 msr; +__u32 pad2; +__u64 control; +__u64 status; +__u64 send_page; +__u64 recv_page; +__u64 pending_page; + } syndbg; } u; };
@@ -1017,6 +1029,9 @@ struct kvm_ppc_resize_hpt {#define KVM_CAP_S390_VCPU_RESETS 179#define KVM_CAP_S390_PROTECTED 180#define KVM_CAP_PPC_SECURE_GUEST 181 +#define KVM_CAP_HALT_POLL 182 +#define KVM_CAP_ASYNC_PF_INT 183 +#define KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME 184#ifdef KVM_CAP_IRQ_ROUTING
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PATCH 4/4 KVM: selftests: Use KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME
In reply to Andrew Jones--- tools/testing/selftests/kvm/steal_time.c | 8 ++++++++ 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
tools/testing/selftests/kvm/steal_time.c +8 -0
@@ -70,6 +70,10 @@ static void steal_time_init(struct kvm_vm *vm)exit (KSFT_SKIP ); } +#ifdef KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME +TEST_ASSERT (kvm_check_cap (KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME ),"CAP doesn't match CPUID feature" ); +#endif +for (i =0 ; i <NR_VCPUS ; ++i) {int ret;
@@ -177,8 +181,12 @@ static void steal_time_init(struct kvm_vm *vm) };int i, ret; +#ifndef KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME ret =_vcpu_ioctl (vm,0 ,KVM_HAS_DEVICE_ATTR , &dev);if (ret !=0 && errno ==ENXIO ) { +#else +if (!kvm_check_cap (KVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME )) { +#endif print_skip ("steal-time not supported" );exit (KSFT_SKIP ); }
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Quoted 7 lines · Andrew Jones
This series introduces a KVM CAP for steal time to arm64 and x86. For arm64 the cap resolves a couple issues described in the second patch's commit message. The cap isn't necessary for x86, but is added for consistency.
Thanks,
drew
LGTM, being able to probe whether nodelayacct has been specified makes sense and having it available before VCPU creation is even better. FWIW feel free to add:
Thanks,
Steve
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Andrew Jones (4):
KVM: Documentation minor fixups
arm64/x86: KVM: Introduce steal time cap
tools headers kvm: Synclinux/kvm.hwith the kernel sources
KVM: selftests: UseKVM_CAP_STEAL_TIME
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Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 20 ++++++++++++++++---- arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c | 3 +++ arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 3 +++ include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 1 + tools/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 15 +++++++++++++++ tools/testing/selftests/kvm/steal_time.c | 8 ++++++++ 6 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
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