printk/console: Use ttynull when no console is available or wanted
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Petr Mladek
maintainercover printk/console: Use ttynull when no console is available or wanted
This is another attempt to solve regression caused by the commit 48021f98130880dd74 ("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").
It prevented a crash caused by empty console= parameter. But it caused performance problems on Chromebooks because they use it to disable all consoles, see
see https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]
Solve both problems by using ttynull console driver that was crated exactly for this purpose.
The 1st patch should prevent the crash for any invalid console name.
The 2nd patch allows to used the ttynull driver also with the widely used console= and console=null parameters.
Best Regards,
Petr
Petr Mladek (2):
init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console printk/console: Allow to disable console output by using console="" or
console=null
drivers/tty/Kconfig | 14 -------------- drivers/tty/Makefile | 3 +-- drivers/tty/ttynull.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ include/linux/console.h | 3 +++ init/main.c | 10 ++++++++-- kernel/printk/printk.c | 9 ++++++++- 6 files changed, 38 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
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Petr Mladek
maintainerPATCH 1/2 init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for /dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit 48021f98130880dd742 ("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").
Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and /dev/console are always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.
--- drivers/tty/Kconfig | 14 -------------- drivers/tty/Makefile | 3 +-- drivers/tty/ttynull.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ include/linux/console.h | 3 +++ init/main.c | 10 ++++++++-- 5 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
drivers/tty/Kconfig +0 -14
@@ -428,20 +428,6 @@ config MIPS_EJTAG_FDC_KGDB_CHAN help FDC channel number to use for KGDB. -config NULL_TTY - tristate "NULL TTY driver" - help - Say Y here if you want a NULL TTY which simply discards messages. - - This is useful to allow userspace applications which expect a console - device to work without modifications even when no console is - available or desired. - - In order to use this driver, you should redirect the console to this - TTY, or boot the kernel with console=ttynull. - - If unsure, say N. - config TRACE_ROUTER tristate "Trace data router for MIPI P1149.7 cJTAG standard" depends on TRACE_SINK
drivers/tty/Makefile +1 -2
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_TTY) += tty_io.o n_tty.o tty_ioctl.o tty_ldisc.o \ tty_buffer.o tty_port.o tty_mutex.o \ tty_ldsem.o tty_baudrate.o tty_jobctrl.o \ - n_null.o + n_null.o ttynull.o obj-$(CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS) += pty.o obj-$(CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS) += pty.o obj-$(CONFIG_AUDIT) += tty_audit.o
@@ -25,7 +25,6 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_ISI) += isicom.o obj-$(CONFIG_MOXA_INTELLIO) += moxa.o obj-$(CONFIG_MOXA_SMARTIO) += mxser.o obj-$(CONFIG_NOZOMI) += nozomi.o -obj-$(CONFIG_NULL_TTY) += ttynull.o obj-$(CONFIG_ROCKETPORT) += rocket.o obj-$(CONFIG_SYNCLINK_GT) += synclink_gt.o obj-$(CONFIG_SYNCLINKMP) += synclinkmp.o
drivers/tty/ttynull.c +18 -0
@@ -2,6 +2,13 @@/* * Copyright (C) 2019 Axis Communications AB * +* The console is useful for userspace applications which expect a console +* device to work without modifications even when no console is available +* or desired. +* +* In order to use this driver, you should redirect the console to this +* TTY, or boot the kernel with console=ttynull. +* * Based on ttyprintk.c: * Copyright (C) 2010 Samo Pogacnik */
@@ -59,6 +66,17 @@ static struct console ttynull_console = { .device = ttynull_device, }; +void __init register_ttynull_console (void ) +{ +if (!ttynull_driver) +return ; + +if (add_preferred_console (ttynull_console.name,0 ,NULL )) +return ; + +register_console (&ttynull_console); +} +static int __init ttynull_init (void ) {struct tty_driver *driver;
include/linux/console.h +3 -0
@@ -187,9 +187,12 @@ extern int braille_register_console(struct console *, int index,extern int braille_unregister_console (struct console *);#ifdef CONFIG_TTY extern void console_sysfs_notify (void ); +extern void register_ttynull_console (void );#else static inline void console_sysfs_notify (void ) { } +static inline void register_ttynull_console (void ) +{ }#endif extern bool console_suspend_enabled;
init/main.c +8 -2
@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) { -pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); + + file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 ); +if (IS_ERR (file)) { +pr_err ("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n" ); +return ; + } }init_dup (file);init_dup (file);
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Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
Quoted 17 lines · Petr Mladek
stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for
/dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit48021f98130880dd742("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
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Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>
Tricky, and nice to use the existing driver for this, I like it:
Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
In reply to Petr MladekQuoted 17 lines · Petr Mladek
stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for
/dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit48021f98130880dd742("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
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Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>
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--- drivers/tty/Kconfig | 14 -------------- drivers/tty/Makefile | 3 +-- drivers/tty/ttynull.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++ include/linux/console.h | 3 +++ init/main.c | 10 ++++++++-- 5 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)drivers/tty/Kconfig +0
-14@@ -428,20 +428,6 @@ config MIPS_EJTAG_FDC_KGDB_CHAN help FDC channel number to use for KGDB. -config NULL_TTY - tristate "NULL TTY driver" - help - Say Y here if you want a NULL TTY which simply discards messages. - - This is useful to allow userspace applications which expect a console - device to work without modifications even when no console is - available or desired. - - In order to use this driver, you should redirect the console to this - TTY, or boot the kernel with console=ttynull. - - If unsure, say N. - config TRACE_ROUTER tristate "Trace data router for MIPI P1149.7 cJTAG standard" depends on TRACE_SINKdrivers/tty/Makefile +1
-2@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_TTY) += tty_io.o n_tty.o tty_ioctl.o tty_ldisc.o \ tty_buffer.o tty_port.o tty_mutex.o \ tty_ldsem.o tty_baudrate.o tty_jobctrl.o \ - n_null.o + n_null.o ttynull.o obj-$(CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS) += pty.o obj-$(CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS) += pty.o obj-$(CONFIG_AUDIT) += tty_audit.o@@ -25,7 +25,6 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_ISI) += isicom.o obj-$(CONFIG_MOXA_INTELLIO) += moxa.o obj-$(CONFIG_MOXA_SMARTIO) += mxser.o obj-$(CONFIG_NOZOMI) += nozomi.o -obj-$(CONFIG_NULL_TTY) += ttynull.o obj-$(CONFIG_ROCKETPORT) += rocket.o obj-$(CONFIG_SYNCLINK_GT) += synclink_gt.o obj-$(CONFIG_SYNCLINKMP) += synclinkmp.odrivers/tty/ttynull.c +18
-0@@ -2,6 +2,13 @@/* * Copyright (C) 2019 Axis Communications AB * +* The console is useful for userspace applications which expect a console +* device to work without modifications even when no console is available +* or desired. +* +* In order to use this driver, you should redirect the console to this +* TTY, or boot the kernel with console=ttynull. +* * Based on ttyprintk.c: * Copyright (C) 2010 Samo Pogacnik */ @@ -59,6 +66,17 @@ static struct console ttynull_console = { .device = ttynull_device, }; +void __init register_ttynull_console (void ) +{ +if (!ttynull_driver) +return ; + +if (add_preferred_console (ttynull_console.name,0 ,NULL )) +return ; + +register_console (&ttynull_console); +} +static int __init ttynull_init (void ) {struct tty_driver *driver;include/linux/console.h +3
-0@@ -187,9 +187,12 @@ extern int braille_register_console(struct console *, int index,extern int braille_unregister_console (struct console *);#ifdef CONFIG_TTY extern void console_sysfs_notify (void ); +extern void register_ttynull_console (void );#else static inline void console_sysfs_notify (void ) { } +static inline void register_ttynull_console (void ) +{ }#endif extern bool console_suspend_enabled;init/main.c +8
-2@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) { -pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); + + file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 ); +if (IS_ERR (file)) { +pr_err ("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n" ); +return ; + } }init_dup (file);init_dup (file);Signature · 1 line
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Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
In reply to Petr MladekQuoted 17 lines · Petr Mladek
stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for
/dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit48021f98130880dd742("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
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Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>
-ss
Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
In reply to Petr MladekOn (20/11/11 14:54), Petr Mladek wrote:
[..]
init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1475
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init/main.c +3
-2@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) { -pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); +
A nit, this probably can be done in console_device() function.
For several reasons:
- we will get covered all the future cases when something other than console_on_rootfs() will filp_open("/dev/console")
- filp_open() failure does not necessarily mean that we have console= and hence must register null-tty driver
- this will keep low level printk/tty details within the printk
Something like this?
---
kernel/printk/printk.c +6 -0
@@ -2633,6 +2633,12 @@ struct tty_driver *console_device(int *index)struct tty_driver *driver =NULL ;console_lock (); +if (unlikely (!console_drivers)) { +console_unlock (); +register_ttynull_console (); +console_lock (); + } +for_each_console (c) {if (!c->device)continue ;
Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
Quoted 18 lines · Sergey Senozhatsky
On (20/11/11 14:54), Petr Mladek wrote:
[..]init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1475
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init/main.c +3
-2@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) { -pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); +A nit, this probably can be done in
console_device()function.
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For several reasons:
- we will get covered all the future cases when something other than
console_on_rootfs()willfilp_open("/dev/console")
And the existing ones (including user-space). For instance, kernel/bpf/preload/iterators/iterators.c probably fails (?) on systems with console=
debug_fd = open("/dev/console", O_WRONLY | O_NOCTTY | O_CLOEXEC);
if (debug_fd < 0)
return 1;
-ssPetr Mladek
maintainerRe: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console
Quoted 19 lines · Sergey Senozhatsky
Quoted 18 lines · Sergey Senozhatsky
On (20/11/11 14:54), Petr Mladek wrote:
[..]init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1475
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init/main.c +3
-2@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) { -pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); +A nit, this probably can be done in
console_device()function.
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For several reasons:
- we will get covered all the future cases when something other than
console_on_rootfs()willfilp_open("/dev/console")
Good point!
My concern is that console_device might be called in "unclear" context. For example, it is called under tty_mutex in:
+ tty_open_by_driver()
+ tty_lookup_driver()
+ console_device()
Also console_on_rootf() is likely the first code that would actually use the device.
Well, there is spk_ttyio_initialise_ldisc() that calls tty_kopen(). I am a bit lazy to investigate whether it is called sooner or later. Anyway, it is accessibility code, so that there should be configured an accessibility console anyway.
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And the existing ones (including user-space). For instance,
kernel/bpf/preload/iterators/iterators.cprobably fails (?) on systems with console=debug_fd = open("/dev/console", O_WRONLY | O_NOCTTY | O_CLOEXEC); if (debug_fd < 0) return 1; -ss
This looks like an userspace tool, so it should get called after console_on_rootfs().
It might be my laziness. But I would prefer to go with this patchset. We could always improve it when anyone meet the problem.
Best Regards,
Petr
ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
In reply to Petr Mladek+CC Buildroot folks
Hi Petr,
Quoted 30 lines · Petr Mladek
stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for
/dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit48021f98130880dd742("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>init/main.c +0
-0@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) {
init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1480
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init/main.c +8
-2-pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); + + file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 ); +if (IS_ERR (file)) { +pr_err ("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n" ); +return ; + }
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where /dev/console doesn't exist statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
/bin/mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
exec 0</dev/console
exec 1>/dev/console
exec 2>/dev/console
exec /sbin/init "$@"
Buildroot has had this way of handling missing /dev/console since 2011
[1] and [2].
Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot. Otherwise this seems like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or perhaps conditionalize on CONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been reported by any other embedded folks
Thx,
-Vineet
[1] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2011-July/044505.html
[2] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2011-August/044832.html
John Ogness
maintainerRe: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Hi Vineet,
Quoted 1 line · Vineet Gupta
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
John Ogness
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Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Hi John,
Quoted 8 lines · John Ogness
Quoted 1 line · Vineet Gupta
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
I can show an example for m68knommu which this change breaks too (with no console output on boot).
All the ColdFire dev board targets (arch/m68k/configs/m5*) have a compiled in boot argument which is "root=/dev/mtdblock0". They have no real mechanism to pass boot arguments from their boot loader, so it is
compiled in.
The default mcf serial driver is the console on these and no "console=ttyS0" argument was required in the past.
Regards
Greg
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Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
In reply to John OgnessHi John,
Quoted 10 lines · John Ogness
Hi Vineet,
Quoted 1 line · Vineet Gupta
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
And we do have serial driver built-in.
Thx,
-Vineet
Petr Mladek
maintainerRe: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Quoted 15 lines · Vineet Gupta
Hi John,
Quoted 10 lines · John Ogness
Hi Vineet,
Quoted 1 line · Vineet Gupta
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
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Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
This is strange, the problematic patch should use ttynull only as a fallback. It should not be used when a particular console is defined on the command line.
The only explanation would be that ttyS0 gets registered too late and ttynull is added as a fallback in the meantime.
Anyway, I propose the revert the problematic patch for 5.11-rc3, see
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/
This mystery is a good reason to avoid bigger changes at this stage.
Best Regards,
Petr
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Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Quoted 16 lines · Petr Mladek
Quoted 15 lines · Vineet Gupta
Hi John,
Quoted 10 lines · John Ogness
Hi Vineet,
Quoted 1 line · Vineet Gupta
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
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Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
This is strange, the problematic patch should use ttynull only as a fallback. It should not be used when a particular console is defined on the command line.
What happens in my case is console_on_rootfs() doesn't find /dev/console and switching to ttynull. /dev is not present because devtmpfs doesn't automount for initramfs.
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The only explanation would be that ttyS0 gets registered too late and ttynull is added as a fallback in the meantime.
I don't know if ttyS0 console should have registered already but even if it did - the /dev node missing would not have helped ?
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Anyway, I propose the revert the problematic patch for 5.11-rc3, see
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210107164400.17904-2-pmladek at suse.com/ This mystery is a good reason to avoid bigger changes at this stage.Best Regards,
Petr
Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Quoted 20 lines · Vineet Gupta
Quoted 19 lines · Petr Mladek
Quoted 17 lines · Vineet Gupta
Hi John,
Quoted 10 lines · John Ogness
Hi Vineet,
Quoted 1 line · Vineet Gupta
This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
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This is strange, the problematic patch should use ttynull only as a fallback. It should not be used when a particular console is defined on the command line.
What happens in my case is
console_on_rootfs()doesn't find/dev/consoleand switching to ttynull. /dev is not present because devtmpfs doesn't automount for initramfs.
I wonder if we'll move the nulltty fallback logic into printk code [1] will it fix the problem?
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/X6x%[email protected]/
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Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Quoted 25 lines · Sergey Senozhatsky
Quoted 24 lines · Vineet Gupta
Quoted 22 lines · Petr Mladek
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Hi John,
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Hi Vineet,
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This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
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Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
This is strange, the problematic patch should use ttynull only as a fallback. It should not be used when a particular console is defined on the command line.
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What happens in my case is
console_on_rootfs()doesn't find/dev/consoleand switching to ttynull. /dev is not present because devtmpfs doesn't automount for initramfs.I wonder if we'll move the nulltty fallback logic into printk code [1] will it fix the problem?
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/X6x%2FAxD1qanC6evJ at jagdpanzerIV.localdomain/
Your reasoning in the post above makes total sense.
I tired the patch: adding register_ttynull_console() call in console_device(), removing from console_on_rootfs() band that works too.
| Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull. | Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!
| Freeing unused kernel memory: 3096K | This architecture does not have kernel memory protection. | Run /init as init process | with arguments: | /init | with environment: | HOME=/ | TERM=linux | Starting System logger (syslogd) | Bringing up loopback device | Starting inetd | Mounting Posix Mqueue filesys | CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE="~/arc/RAMFS/archs/ramfs_2011-GNU-2020-03-glibc-2.32-tiny" | ********************************************************************** | Welcome to ARCLinux | ********************************************************************** | [ARCLinux]#
Petr Mladek
maintainerRe: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Quoted 22 lines · Vineet Gupta
Quoted 21 lines · Sergey Senozhatsky
Quoted 20 lines · Vineet Gupta
Quoted 19 lines · Petr Mladek
Quoted 17 lines · Vineet Gupta
Hi John,
Quoted 10 lines · John Ogness
Hi Vineet,
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This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
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This is strange, the problematic patch should use ttynull only as a fallback. It should not be used when a particular console is defined on the command line.
What happens in my case is
console_on_rootfs()doesn't find/dev/consoleand switching to ttynull. /dev is not present because devtmpfs doesn't automount for initramfs.
I see. I did not though about a possibility that /dev/console could not be opened from other reasons.
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I wonder if we'll move the nulltty fallback logic into printk code [1] will it fix the problem?
Your reasoning in the post above makes total sense.
I tired the patch: adding
register_ttynull_console()call inconsole_device(), removing fromconsole_on_rootfs()band that works too.
IMHO, this worked because you removed the change in console_on_rootfs().
I guess that the change in console_device() did not make any difference. It was likely not called because filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0) failed earlier because /dev/ did not exists.
Anyway, the proposed change in console_device() has some more problems that I realized this week:
+ It does not check whether console_drivers really contains any console with tty binding.
+ register_ttynull_console() calls add_preferred_console(ttynull_console.name, 0, NULL). The ttynull console stays preferred even when any better console gets registered later. As a result, it would stay associated with /dev/console.
The right solution would be to enable ttynull console and do _not_ modify the list of preferred consoles. And it makes sense to add the console only there is no console with tty binding at the moment.
I still have to think whether console_device() is a better or worse location for adding tyynull as a fallback.
Anyway, it has to wait. The proper solution can't be done easily with the existing register_console() code. We need to clean it up first.
Best Regards,
Petr
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Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
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"Vineet" == Vineet Gupta <[email protected]> writes:
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Hi John,
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Hi Vineet,
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This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Could you provide the kernel boot arguments that you use? This series is partly about addressing users that have used boot arguments that are technically incorrect (even if had worked). Seeing the boot arguments of users that are not experiencing problems may help to reveal some of the unusual console usages until now.
Kernel command line: earlycon=uart8250,mmio32,0xf0005000,115200n8 console=ttyS0,115200n8 debug print-fatal-signals=1
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This is strange, the problematic patch should use ttynull only as a fallback. It should not be used when a particular console is defined on the command line.
What happens in my case is
console_on_rootfs()doesn't find/dev/consoleand switching to ttynull. /dev is not present because devtmpfs doesn't automount for initramfs.
But our initramfs/cpio logic ensures that the initramfs has a static /dev/console device node, so how can that be?
https://git.buildroot.net/buildroot/tree/fs/cpio/cpio.mk#n25
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Re: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
In reply to Vineet Gupta[CC'in linux-um since there is a similar issue]
Quoted 68 lines · Vineet Gupta
+CC Buildroot folks
Hi Petr,
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stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for
/dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit48021f98130880dd742("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>init/main.c +0
-0@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) {init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1480
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-2-pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); + + file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 ); +if (IS_ERR (file)) { +pr_err ("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n" ); +return ; + }This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where
/dev/consoledoesn't exist statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
/bin/mount-t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
exec 0</dev/console
exec 1>/dev/console
exec 2>/dev/console
exec/sbin/init"$@"Buildroot has had this way of handling missing
/dev/consolesince 2011
[1] and [2].Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot. Otherwise this seems like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or perhaps conditionalize on
CONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been reported by any other embedded folks
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Thx,
-Vineet[1] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2011-July/044505.html
[2] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2011-August/044832.html
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Thanks,
//richard
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Petr Mladek
maintainerRe: ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
In reply to Vineet GuptaQuoted 39 lines · Vineet Gupta
+CC Buildroot folks
Hi Petr,
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stdin, stdout, and stderr standard I/O stream are created for the init process. They are not available when there is no console registered for
/dev/console. It might lead to a crash when the init process tries to use them, see the commit48021f98130880dd742("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").Normally, ttySX and ttyX consoles are used as a fallback when no consoles are defined via the command line, device tree, or SPCR. But there will be no console registered when an invalid console name is configured or when the configured consoles do not exist on the system.
Users even try to avoid the console intentionally, for example, by using console="" or console=null. It is used on production systems where the serial port or terminal are not visible to users. Pushing messages to these consoles would just unnecessary slowdown the system.
Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>init/main.c +3
-2@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) { -pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); +
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init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1480
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init/main.c +5
-0+ file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 ); +if (IS_ERR (file)) { +pr_err ("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n" ); +return ; + }This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
This is likely the same problem as with kunit and um kernels. It is being discussed at
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kselftest/X%2FSRA1P8t+ONZFKb@alley/#t
We have several workarounds. I am still squashing my head about the right solution. The console registration code is like a vasps' nest. It is always a pain when we touch it.
I hope that I will send a patchset for review later today. In the worst case, we will revert the patch in the mainline.
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Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where
/dev/consoledoesn't exist statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
/bin/mount-t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
exec 0</dev/console
exec 1>/dev/console
exec 2>/dev/console
exec/sbin/init"$@"Buildroot has had this way of handling missing
/dev/consolesince 2011 [1] and [2].
Good to know.
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Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot. Otherwise this seems like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or perhaps conditionalize on
CONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been reported by any other embedded folks
Two workarounds can be fount at
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kselftest/X%2FSYhBZyudfnKY1u@alley/
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kselftest/X%2FW2sl7RMvfaV4Ru@alley/
But I still see them as only a partial solutiuon. I still another sources of potential problems.
Best Regards,
Petr
Re: [Buildroot] ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
In reply to Vineet GuptaVineet, All,
On 2021-01-06 15:36 -0800, Vineet Gupta spake thusly:
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Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and
/dev/consoleare always available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only when explicitly configured.Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>init/main.c +0
-0@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)struct file *file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 );if (IS_ERR (file)) {init/main.c void __init console_on_rootfs(void) · line 1479
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init/main.c +8
-2-pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n" ); -return ; +pr_err ("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n" ); +register_ttynull_console (); + + file =filp_open ("/dev/console" ,O_RDWR ,0 ); +if (IS_ERR (file)) { +pr_err ("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n" ); +return ; + }This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
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Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where
/dev/consoledoesn't exist statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
/bin/mount-t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
exec 0</dev/console
exec 1>/dev/console
exec 2>/dev/console
exec/sbin/init"$@"
I guess you are speaking about the initramfs (cpio) case, right?
We've changed that code last August:
https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/init?id=b9026e83f
I.e. if we can't do the redirection, then we don't redirect anything. The change was done for people who explicitly pass an empty console= on their kernel command line.
Now, I haven't looked at nulltty yet, and I have (so far) no idea on how it works. Thanks for the hint, I'll have a look.
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Buildroot has had this way of handling missing
/dev/consolesince 2011 [1] and [2].
See also more archaelogy on that topic, referenced in that commit:
https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/?id=98a6f1fc02e41
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Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot.
This has been present since the 2020.08 release, and has been backported to the maintenance branches:
2020.02.x (LTS) -> f1a83afe2df2a
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Otherwise this seems
like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or perhaps conditionalize onCONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been reported by any other embedded folks
I won't speak about whether this is a kernel regression or not, not my call.
Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.
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Petr Mladek
maintainerPATCH 2/2 printk/console: Allow to disable console output by using console="" or console=null
In reply to Petr MladekThe commit 48021f98130880dd74 ("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.") prevented crash caused by empty console= parameter value.
Unfortunately, this value is widely used on Chromebooks to disable the console output. The above commit caused performance regression because the messages were pushed on slow console even though nobody was watching it.
Use ttynull driver explicitly for console="" and console=null parameters. It has been created for exactly this purpose.
It causes that preferred_console is set. As a result, ttySX and ttyX are not used as a fallback. And only ttynull console gets registered by default.
It still allows to register other consoles either by additional console= parameters or SPCR. It prevents regression because it worked this way even before. Also it is a sane semantic. Preventing output on all consoles should be done another way, for example, by introducing mute_console parameter.
--- kernel/printk/printk.c | 9 ++++++++- 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
kernel/printk/printk.c +8 -1
@@ -2189,8 +2189,15 @@ static int __init console_setup(char *str)char *s, *options, *brl_options =NULL ;int idx; -if (str[0 ] ==0 ) +/* +* console="" or console=null have been suggested as a way to +* disable console output. Use ttynull that has been created +* for exacly this purpose. +*/ +if (str[0 ] ==0 ||strcmp (str,"null" ) ==0 ) { +__add_preferred_console ("ttynull" ,0 ,NULL ,NULL , true);return 1 ; + }if (_braille_console_setup (&str, &brl_options))return 1 ;
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Re: [PATCH 2/2] printk/console: Allow to disable console output by using console="" or console=null
Quoted 21 lines · Petr Mladek
The commit
48021f98130880dd74("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.") prevented crash caused by empty console= parameter value.Unfortunately, this value is widely used on Chromebooks to disable the console output. The above commit caused performance regression because the messages were pushed on slow console even though nobody was watching it.
Use ttynull driver explicitly for console="" and console=null parameters. It has been created for exactly this purpose.
It causes that
preferred_consoleis set. As a result, ttySX and ttyX are not used as a fallback. And only ttynull console gets registered by default.It still allows to register other consoles either by additional console= parameters or SPCR. It prevents regression because it worked this way even before. Also it is a sane semantic. Preventing output on all consoles should be done another way, for example, by introducing
mute_consoleparameter.
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Suggested-by Sergey Senozhatsky <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>
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Re: [PATCH 2/2] printk/console: Allow to disable console output by using console="" or console=null
In reply to Petr MladekQuoted 21 lines · Petr Mladek
The commit
48021f98130880dd74("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.") prevented crash caused by empty console= parameter value.Unfortunately, this value is widely used on Chromebooks to disable the console output. The above commit caused performance regression because the messages were pushed on slow console even though nobody was watching it.
Use ttynull driver explicitly for console="" and console=null parameters. It has been created for exactly this purpose.
It causes that
preferred_consoleis set. As a result, ttySX and ttyX are not used as a fallback. And only ttynull console gets registered by default.It still allows to register other consoles either by additional console= parameters or SPCR. It prevents regression because it worked this way even before. Also it is a sane semantic. Preventing output on all consoles should be done another way, for example, by introducing
mute_consoleparameter.
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Suggested-by Sergey Senozhatsky <[email protected]>Signed-off-by Petr Mladek <[email protected]>
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--- kernel/printk/printk.c | 9 ++++++++- 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)kernel/printk/printk.c +8
-1@@ -2189,8 +2189,15 @@ static int __init console_setup(char *str)char *s, *options, *brl_options =NULL ;int idx; -if (str[0 ] ==0 ) +/* +* console="" or console=null have been suggested as a way to +* disable console output. Use ttynull that has been created +* for exacly this purpose. +*/ +if (str[0 ] ==0 ||strcmp (str,"null" ) ==0 ) { +__add_preferred_console ("ttynull" ,0 ,NULL ,NULL , true);return 1 ; + }if (_braille_console_setup (&str, &brl_options))return 1 ;Signature · 1 line
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Petr Mladek
maintainerQuoted 16 lines · Petr Mladek
This is another attempt to solve regression caused by the commit
48021f98130880dd74("printk: handle blank console arguments passed in.").It prevented a crash caused by empty console= parameter. But it caused performance problems on Chromebooks because they use it to disable all consoles, see
see https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]Solve both problems by using ttynull console driver that was crated exactly for this purpose.
The 1st patch should prevent the crash for any invalid console name.
The 2nd patch allows to used the ttynull driver also with the widely used console= and console=null parameters.
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Best Regards,
PetrPetr Mladek (2):
init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console printk/console: Allow to disable console output by using console="" or
console=null
The patchset has been committed into printk/linux.git, branch for-5.11-null-console.
Best Regards,
Petr