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Andy Lutomirski

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cover membarrier cleanups

membarrier() is unnecessarily tangled with the core scheduler. Clean it up. While we're at it, remove the documentation and drop the pretence that SYNC_CORE can ever be a well-defined cross-arch operation.

Andy Lutomirski (8):
membarrier: Document why membarrier() works
x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code
membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code
membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm powerpc/membarrier: Remove special barrier on mm switch
membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE
membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve
documentation

 .../membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt     | 68 +++++------------
 arch/arm/Kconfig                              |  1 -
 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h            | 19 +++++
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h         | 27 -------
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h          | 14 ++++
 arch/powerpc/mm/mmu_context.c                 |  2 -
 arch/x86/Kconfig                              |  1 -
 arch/x86/include/asm/sync_core.h              |  7 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c                 |  2 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c                |  2 +-
 arch/x86/mm/tlb.c                             | 54 ++++++++++---
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grufault.c               |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/gruhandles.c             |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grukservices.c           |  2 +-
 fs/exec.c                                     |  2 +-
 include/linux/sched/mm.h                      | 42 +++++-----
 include/linux/sync_core.h                     | 21 -----
 init/Kconfig                                  |  3 -
 kernel/kthread.c                              | 16 +---
 kernel/sched/core.c                           | 44 +++--------
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c                     | 76 +++++++++++++++++--
 21 files changed, 210 insertions(+), 197 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h
 delete mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h
 create mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h
 delete mode 100644 include/linux/sync_core.h
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#1 lore raw

PATCH 1/8 membarrier: Document why membarrier() works

We had a nice comment at the top of membarrier.c explaining why membarrier worked in a handful of scenarios, but that consisted more of a list of things not to forget than an actual description of the algorithm and why it should be expected to work.

Add a comment explaining my understanding of the algorithm. This exposes a couple of implementation issues that I will hopefully fix up in subsequent patches.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +55 -0
index b5add64d9698..3173b063d358 100644
@@ -7,6 +7,61 @@
 #include "sched.h"
 
 /*
+ * The basic principle behind the regular memory barrier mode of membarrier()
+ * is as follows.  For each CPU, membarrier() operates in one of two
+ * modes.  Either it sends an IPI or it does not. If membarrier() sends an
+ * IPI, then we have the following sequence of events:
+ *
+ * 1. membarrier() does smp_mb().
+ * 2. membarrier() does a store (the IPI request payload) that is observed by
+ *    the target CPU.
+ * 3. The target CPU does smp_mb().
+ * 4. The target CPU does a store (the completion indication) that is observed
+ *    by membarrier()'s wait-for-IPIs-to-finish request.
+ * 5. membarrier() does smp_mb().
+ *
+ * So all pre-membarrier() local accesses are visible after the IPI on the
+ * target CPU and all pre-IPI remote accesses are visible after
+ * membarrier(). IOW membarrier() has synchronized both ways with the target
+ * CPU.
+ *
+ * (This has the caveat that membarrier() does not interrupt the CPU that it's
+ * running on at the time it sends the IPIs. However, if that is the CPU on
+ * which membarrier() starts and/or finishes, membarrier() does smp_mb() and,
+ * if not, then membarrier() scheduled, and scheduling had better include a
+ * full barrier somewhere for basic correctness regardless of membarrier.)
+ *
+ * If membarrier() does not send an IPI, this means that membarrier() reads
+ * cpu_rq(cpu)->curr->mm and that the result is not equal to the target
+ * mm.  Let's assume for now that tasks never change their mm field.  The
+ * sequence of events is:
+ *
+ * 1. Target CPU switches away from the target mm (or goes lazy or has never
+ *    run the target mm in the first place). This involves smp_mb() followed
+ *    by a write to cpu_rq(cpu)->curr.
+ * 2. membarrier() does smp_mb(). (This is NOT synchronized with any action
+ *    done by the target.)
+ * 3. membarrier() observes the value written in step 1 and does *not* observe
+ *    the value written in step 5.
+ * 4. membarrier() does smp_mb().
+ * 5. Target CPU switches back to the target mm and writes to
+ *    cpu_rq(cpu)->curr. (This is NOT synchronized with any action on
+ *    membarrier()'s part.)
+ * 6. Target CPU executes smp_mb()
+ *
+ * All pre-schedule accesses on the remote CPU are visible after membarrier()
+ * because they all precede the target's write in step 1 and are synchronized
+ * to the local CPU by steps 3 and 4.  All pre-membarrier() accesses on the
+ * local CPU are visible on the remote CPU after scheduling because they
+ * happen before the smp_mb(); read in steps 2 and 3 and that read preceeds
+ * the target's smp_mb() in step 6.
+ *
+ * However, tasks can change their ->mm, e.g., via kthread_use_mm().  So
+ * tasks that switch their ->mm must follow the same rules as the scheduler
+ * changing rq->curr, and the membarrier() code needs to do both dereferences
+ * carefully.
+ *
+ *
  * For documentation purposes, here are some membarrier ordering
  * scenarios to keep in mind:
  *
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Re: [PATCH 1/8] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 22 lines

We had a nice comment at the top of membarrier.c explaining why membarrier worked in a handful of scenarios, but that consisted more of a list of things not to forget than an actual description of the algorithm and why it should be expected to work.

Add a comment explaining my understanding of the algorithm. This exposes a couple of implementation issues that I will hopefully fix up in subsequent patches.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
index b5add64d9698..3173b063d358 100644

kernel/sched/membarrier.c line 8

Quoted 2 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
@@ -7,6 +7,61 @@
 #include "sched.h"
 

Precisely describing the orderings is great, not a fan of the style of the comment though.

kernel/sched/membarrier.c

Quoted 4 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +3 -0
 /*
+ * The basic principle behind the regular memory barrier mode of membarrier()
+ * is as follows.  For each CPU, membarrier() operates in one of two
+ * modes.

membarrier(2) is called by one CPU, and it iterates over target CPUs, and for each of them it...

Quoted 17 lines

Either it sends an IPI or it does not. If membarrier() sends an
+ * IPI, then we have the following sequence of events:
+ *
+ * 1. membarrier() does smp_mb().
+ * 2. membarrier() does a store (the IPI request payload) that is observed by
+ * the target CPU.
+ * 3. The target CPU does smp_mb().
+ * 4. The target CPU does a store (the completion indication) that is observed
+ * by membarrier()'s wait-for-IPIs-to-finish request.
+ * 5. membarrier() does smp_mb().
+ *
+ * So all pre-membarrier() local accesses are visible after the IPI on the
+ * target CPU and all pre-IPI remote accesses are visible after
+ * membarrier(). IOW membarrier() has synchronized both ways with the target
+ * CPU.
+ *
+ * (This has the caveat that membarrier() does not interrupt the CPU that it's

Quoted 8 lines

+ * running on at the time it sends the IPIs. However, if that is the CPU on
+ * which membarrier() starts and/or finishes, membarrier() does smp_mb() and,
+ * if not, then membarrier() scheduled, and scheduling had better include a
+ * full barrier somewhere for basic correctness regardless of membarrier.)
+ *
+ * If membarrier() does not send an IPI, this means that membarrier() reads
+ * cpu_rq(cpu)->curr->mm and that the result is not equal to the target
+ * mm.

If membarrier(2) reads cpu_rq(target)->curr->mm and finds it != current->mm, this means it doesn't send an IPI. "Had read" even would at least make it past tense. I know what you mean, it just sounds backwards as worded.

Quoted 19 lines

Let's assume for now that tasks never change their mm field. The
+ * sequence of events is:
+ *
+ * 1. Target CPU switches away from the target mm (or goes lazy or has never
+ * run the target mm in the first place). This involves smp_mb() followed
+ * by a write to cpu_rq(cpu)->curr.
+ * 2. membarrier() does smp_mb(). (This is NOT synchronized with any action
+ * done by the target.)
+ * 3. membarrier() observes the value written in step 1 and does *not* observe
+ * the value written in step 5.
+ * 4. membarrier() does smp_mb().
+ * 5. Target CPU switches back to the target mm and writes to
+ * cpu_rq(cpu)->curr. (This is NOT synchronized with any action on
+ * membarrier()'s part.)
+ * 6. Target CPU executes smp_mb()
+ *
+ * All pre-schedule accesses on the remote CPU are visible after membarrier()
+ * because they all precede the target's write in step 1 and are synchronized
+ * to the local CPU by steps 3 and 4. All pre-membarrier() accesses on the

Quoted 8 lines

+ * local CPU are visible on the remote CPU after scheduling because they
+ * happen before the smp_mb(); read in steps 2 and 3 and that read preceeds
+ * the target's smp_mb() in step 6.
+ *
+ * However, tasks can change their ->mm, e.g., via kthread_use_mm(). So
+ * tasks that switch their ->mm must follow the same rules as the scheduler
+ * changing rq->curr, and the membarrier() code needs to do both dereferences
+ * carefully.

I would prefer the memory accesses and barriers and post-conditions made in a more precise style like the rest of the comments. I think it's a good idea to break down the higher level choices, and treat a single target CPU at a time, but it can be done in the same style

   p = rcu_dereference(rq->curr);
   if (p->mm == current->mm)
     // IPI case
   else
     // No IPI case

// IPI case:
...

// No IPI case:
...

Quoted 4 lines

+ *
+ *
* For documentation purposes, here are some membarrier ordering
* scenarios to keep in mind:

And I think it really needs to be integrated somehow with the rest of the comments that follow. For example your IPI case and the A/B cases are treating the same subject, just with slightly different levels of detail.

Thanks,
Nick

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Re: [PATCH 1/8] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works

Quoted 18 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 17 lines

We had a nice comment at the top of membarrier.c explaining why membarrier worked in a handful of scenarios, but that consisted more of a list of things not to forget than an actual description of the algorithm and why it should be expected to work.

Add a comment explaining my understanding of the algorithm. This exposes a couple of implementation issues that I will hopefully fix up in subsequent patches.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
Quoted 10 lines

kernel/sched/membarrier.c line 8

Quoted 7 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
index b5add64d9698..3173b063d358 100644
@@ -7,6 +7,61 @@
 #include "sched.h"
 

Precisely describing the orderings is great, not a fan of the style of the comment though.

I'm with Nick on that; I can't read it :/ It only makes things more confusing. If you want precision, English (or any natural language) is your enemy.

To describe ordering use the diagrams and/or litmus tests.

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Re: [PATCH 1/8] membarrier: Document why membarrier() works

Quoted 30 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 18 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 17 lines

We had a nice comment at the top of membarrier.c explaining why membarrier worked in a handful of scenarios, but that consisted more of a list of things not to forget than an actual description of the algorithm and why it should be expected to work.

Add a comment explaining my understanding of the algorithm. This exposes a couple of implementation issues that I will hopefully fix up in subsequent patches.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
Quoted 10 lines

kernel/sched/membarrier.c line 8

Quoted 7 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
index b5add64d9698..3173b063d358 100644
@@ -7,6 +7,61 @@
 #include "sched.h"
 

Precisely describing the orderings is great, not a fan of the style of the comment though.

Quoted 6 lines

I'm with Nick on that; I can't read it :/ It only makes things more confusing. If you want precision, English (or any natural language) is your enemy.

To describe ordering use the diagrams and/or litmus tests.

I made some changes. Maybe it's better now.

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PATCH 2/8 x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

The core scheduler isn't a great place for membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode() -- the core scheduler doesn't actually know whether we are lazy. With the old code, if a CPU is running a membarrier-registered task, goes idle, gets unlazied via a TLB shootdown IPI, and switches back to the membarrier-registered task, it will do an unnecessary core sync.

Conveniently, x86 is the only architecture that does anything in this sync_core_before_usermode(), so membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode() is a no-op on all other architectures and we can just move the code.

(I am not claiming that the SYNC_CORE code was correct before or after this
change on any non-x86 architecture. I merely claim that this change improves readability, is correct on x86, and makes no change on any other architecture.)

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 arch/x86/mm/tlb.c        | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 include/linux/sched/mm.h | 13 ----------
 kernel/sched/core.c      | 13 ++++------
 3 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
arch/x86/mm/tlb.c +41 -12
index 78804680e923..59488d663e68 100644
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
 #include <linux/export.h>
 #include <linux/cpu.h>
 #include <linux/debugfs.h>
+#include <linux/sched/mm.h>
 
 #include <asm/tlbflush.h>
 #include <asm/mmu_context.h>
@@ -473,16 +474,24 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 		this_cpu_write(cpu_tlbstate_shared.is_lazy, false);
 
 	/*
-	 * The membarrier system call requires a full memory barrier and
-	 * core serialization before returning to user-space, after
-	 * storing to rq->curr, when changing mm.  This is because
-	 * membarrier() sends IPIs to all CPUs that are in the target mm
-	 * to make them issue memory barriers.  However, if another CPU
-	 * switches to/from the target mm concurrently with
-	 * membarrier(), it can cause that CPU not to receive an IPI
-	 * when it really should issue a memory barrier.  Writing to CR3
-	 * provides that full memory barrier and core serializing
-	 * instruction.
+	 * membarrier() support requires that, when we change rq->curr->mm:
+	 *
+	 *  - If next->mm has membarrier registered, a full memory barrier
+	 *    after writing rq->curr (or rq->curr->mm if we switched the mm
+	 *    without switching tasks) and before returning to user mode.
+	 *
+	 *  - If next->mm has SYNC_CORE registered, then we sync core before
+	 *    returning to user mode.
+	 *
+	 * In the case where prev->mm == next->mm, membarrier() uses an IPI
+	 * instead, and no particular barriers are needed while context
+	 * switching.
+	 *
+	 * x86 gets all of this as a side-effect of writing to CR3 except
+	 * in the case where we unlazy without flushing.
+	 *
+	 * All other architectures are civilized and do all of this implicitly
+	 * when transitioning from kernel to user mode.
 	 */
 	if (real_prev == next) {
 		VM_WARN_ON(this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.ctxs[prev_asid].ctx_id) !=
@@ -500,7 +509,8 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 		/*
 		 * If the CPU is not in lazy TLB mode, we are just switching
 		 * from one thread in a process to another thread in the same
-		 * process. No TLB flush required.
+		 * process. No TLB flush or membarrier() synchronization
+		 * is required.
 		 */
 		if (!was_lazy)
 			return;
@@ -510,16 +520,35 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 		 * If the TLB is up to date, just use it.
 		 * The barrier synchronizes with the tlb_gen increment in
 		 * the TLB shootdown code.
+		 *
+		 * As a future optimization opportunity, it's plausible
+		 * that the x86 memory model is strong enough that this
+		 * smp_mb() isn't needed.
 		 */
 		smp_mb();
 		next_tlb_gen = atomic64_read(&next->context.tlb_gen);
 		if (this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.ctxs[prev_asid].tlb_gen) ==
-				next_tlb_gen)
+		    next_tlb_gen) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMBARRIER
+			/*
+			 * We switched logical mm but we're not going to
+			 * write to CR3.  We already did smp_mb() above,
+			 * but membarrier() might require a sync_core()
+			 * as well.
+			 */
+			if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
+				     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE))
+				sync_core_before_usermode();
+#endif
+
 			return;
+		}
 
 		/*
 		 * TLB contents went out of date while we were in lazy
 		 * mode. Fall through to the TLB switching code below.
+		 * No need for an explicit membarrier invocation -- the CR3
+		 * write will serialize.
 		 */
 		new_asid = prev_asid;
 		need_flush = true;
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -13
index e24b1fe348e3..24d97d1b6252 100644
@@ -345,16 +345,6 @@ enum {
 #include <asm/membarrier.h>
 #endif
 
-static inline void membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(struct mm_struct *mm)
-{
-	if (current->mm != mm)
-		return;
-	if (likely(!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
-		     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE)))
-		return;
-	sync_core_before_usermode();
-}
-
 extern void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm);
 
 extern void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm);
@@ -370,9 +360,6 @@ static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
 static inline void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 {
 }
-static inline void membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(struct mm_struct *mm)
-{
-}
 static inline void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm)
 {
 }
kernel/sched/core.c +5 -8
index 5226cc26a095..e4c122f8bf21 100644
@@ -4220,22 +4220,19 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 	kmap_local_sched_in();
 
 	fire_sched_in_preempt_notifiers(current);
+
 	/*
 	 * When switching through a kernel thread, the loop in
 	 * membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may have observed that
 	 * kernel thread and not issued an IPI. It is therefore possible to
 	 * schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing though
 	 * switch_mm(). Membarrier requires a barrier after storing to
-	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, so provide them here:
-	 *
-	 * - a full memory barrier for {PRIVATE,GLOBAL}_EXPEDITED, implicitly
-	 *   provided by mmdrop(),
-	 * - a sync_core for SYNC_CORE.
+	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, and mmdrop() provides
+	 * this barrier.
 	 */
-	if (mm) {
-		membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(mm);
+	if (mm)
 		mmdrop(mm);
-	}
+
 	if (unlikely(prev_state == TASK_DEAD)) {
 		if (prev->sched_class->task_dead)
 			prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
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Re: [PATCH 2/8] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 6 lines

The core scheduler isn't a great place for membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode() -- the core scheduler doesn't actually know whether we are lazy. With the old code, if a CPU is running a membarrier-registered task, goes idle, gets unlazied via a TLB shootdown IPI, and switches back to the membarrier-registered task, it will do an unnecessary core sync.

I don't really mind, but ARM64 at least hints they might need it at some point. They can always add it back then, but let's check.

Quoted 3 lines

Conveniently, x86 is the only architecture that does anything in this sync_core_before_usermode(), so membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode() is a no-op on all other architectures and we can just move the code.

If ARM64 does want it (now or later adds it back), x86 can always make the membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode() a nop with comment explaining where it executes the serializing instruction.

I'm fine with the patch though, except I would leave the comment in the core sched code saying any arch specific sequence to deal with SYNC_CORE is required for that case.

Thanks,
Nick

Quoted 177 lines

(I am not claiming that the SYNC_CORE code was correct before or after this
change on any non-x86 architecture. I merely claim that this change improves readability, is correct on x86, and makes no change on any other architecture.)

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 arch/x86/mm/tlb.c        | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 include/linux/sched/mm.h | 13 ----------
 kernel/sched/core.c      | 13 ++++------
 3 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
arch/x86/mm/tlb.c +41 -12
index 78804680e923..59488d663e68 100644
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
 #include <linux/export.h>
 #include <linux/cpu.h>
 #include <linux/debugfs.h>
+#include <linux/sched/mm.h>
 
 #include <asm/tlbflush.h>
 #include <asm/mmu_context.h>
@@ -473,16 +474,24 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 		this_cpu_write(cpu_tlbstate_shared.is_lazy, false);
 
 	/*
-	 * The membarrier system call requires a full memory barrier and
-	 * core serialization before returning to user-space, after
-	 * storing to rq->curr, when changing mm.  This is because
-	 * membarrier() sends IPIs to all CPUs that are in the target mm
-	 * to make them issue memory barriers.  However, if another CPU
-	 * switches to/from the target mm concurrently with
-	 * membarrier(), it can cause that CPU not to receive an IPI
-	 * when it really should issue a memory barrier.  Writing to CR3
-	 * provides that full memory barrier and core serializing
-	 * instruction.
+	 * membarrier() support requires that, when we change rq->curr->mm:
+	 *
+	 *  - If next->mm has membarrier registered, a full memory barrier
+	 *    after writing rq->curr (or rq->curr->mm if we switched the mm
+	 *    without switching tasks) and before returning to user mode.
+	 *
+	 *  - If next->mm has SYNC_CORE registered, then we sync core before
+	 *    returning to user mode.
+	 *
+	 * In the case where prev->mm == next->mm, membarrier() uses an IPI
+	 * instead, and no particular barriers are needed while context
+	 * switching.
+	 *
+	 * x86 gets all of this as a side-effect of writing to CR3 except
+	 * in the case where we unlazy without flushing.
+	 *
+	 * All other architectures are civilized and do all of this implicitly
+	 * when transitioning from kernel to user mode.
 	 */
 	if (real_prev == next) {
 		VM_WARN_ON(this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.ctxs[prev_asid].ctx_id) !=
@@ -500,7 +509,8 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 		/*
 		 * If the CPU is not in lazy TLB mode, we are just switching
 		 * from one thread in a process to another thread in the same
-		 * process. No TLB flush required.
+		 * process. No TLB flush or membarrier() synchronization
+		 * is required.
 		 */
 		if (!was_lazy)
 			return;
@@ -510,16 +520,35 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 		 * If the TLB is up to date, just use it.
 		 * The barrier synchronizes with the tlb_gen increment in
 		 * the TLB shootdown code.
+		 *
+		 * As a future optimization opportunity, it's plausible
+		 * that the x86 memory model is strong enough that this
+		 * smp_mb() isn't needed.
 		 */
 		smp_mb();
 		next_tlb_gen = atomic64_read(&next->context.tlb_gen);
 		if (this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.ctxs[prev_asid].tlb_gen) ==
-				next_tlb_gen)
+		    next_tlb_gen) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMBARRIER
+			/*
+			 * We switched logical mm but we're not going to
+			 * write to CR3.  We already did smp_mb() above,
+			 * but membarrier() might require a sync_core()
+			 * as well.
+			 */
+			if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
+				     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE))
+				sync_core_before_usermode();
+#endif
+
 			return;
+		}
 
 		/*
 		 * TLB contents went out of date while we were in lazy
 		 * mode. Fall through to the TLB switching code below.
+		 * No need for an explicit membarrier invocation -- the CR3
+		 * write will serialize.
 		 */
 		new_asid = prev_asid;
 		need_flush = true;
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -13
index e24b1fe348e3..24d97d1b6252 100644
@@ -345,16 +345,6 @@ enum {
 #include <asm/membarrier.h>
 #endif
 
-static inline void membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(struct mm_struct *mm)
-{
-	if (current->mm != mm)
-		return;
-	if (likely(!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
-		     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE)))
-		return;
-	sync_core_before_usermode();
-}
-
 extern void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm);
 
 extern void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm);
@@ -370,9 +360,6 @@ static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
 static inline void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 {
 }
-static inline void membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(struct mm_struct *mm)
-{
-}
 static inline void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm)
 {
 }
kernel/sched/core.c +5 -8
index 5226cc26a095..e4c122f8bf21 100644
@@ -4220,22 +4220,19 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 	kmap_local_sched_in();
 
 	fire_sched_in_preempt_notifiers(current);
+
 	/*
 	 * When switching through a kernel thread, the loop in
 	 * membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may have observed that
 	 * kernel thread and not issued an IPI. It is therefore possible to
 	 * schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing though
 	 * switch_mm(). Membarrier requires a barrier after storing to
-	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, so provide them here:
-	 *
-	 * - a full memory barrier for {PRIVATE,GLOBAL}_EXPEDITED, implicitly
-	 *   provided by mmdrop(),
-	 * - a sync_core for SYNC_CORE.
+	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, and mmdrop() provides
+	 * this barrier.
 	 */
-	if (mm) {
-		membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(mm);
+	if (mm)
 		mmdrop(mm);
-	}
+
 	if (unlikely(prev_state == TASK_DEAD)) {
 		if (prev->sched_class->task_dead)
 			prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
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Re: [PATCH 2/8] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code

Quoted 5 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

I'm fine with the patch though, except I would leave the comment in the core sched code saying any arch specific sequence to deal with SYNC_CORE is required for that case.

Done.

#8 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 2/8] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
[...]

Quoted 2 lines
(quoted diff) +0 -0
@@ -473,16 +474,24 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct
 mm_struct *next,

[...]

Quoted 19 lines
arch/x86/mm/tlb.c +9 -1
@@ -510,16 +520,35 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct
 mm_struct *next,
 		 * If the TLB is up to date, just use it.
 		 * The barrier synchronizes with the tlb_gen increment in
 		 * the TLB shootdown code.
+		 *
+		 * As a future optimization opportunity, it's plausible
+		 * that the x86 memory model is strong enough that this
+		 * smp_mb() isn't needed.
 		 */
 		smp_mb();
 		next_tlb_gen = atomic64_read(&next->context.tlb_gen);
 		if (this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.ctxs[prev_asid].tlb_gen) ==
-				next_tlb_gen)
+		    next_tlb_gen) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMBARRIER
+			/*
+			 * We switched logical mm but we're not going to
+			 * write to CR3.  We already did smp_mb() above,

arch/x86/mm/tlb.c void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct · line 546

Quoted 10 lines
arch/x86/mm/tlb.c +9 -0
+			 * but membarrier() might require a sync_core()
+			 * as well.
+			 */
+			if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
+				     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE))
+				sync_core_before_usermode();
+#endif
+
 			return;
+		}

[...]

I find that mixing up preprocessor #ifdef and code logic hurts readability. Can you lift this into a static function within the same compile unit, and provides an empty implementation for the #else case ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

	prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
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#9 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 2/8] x86/mm: Handle unlazying membarrier core sync in the arch code

Quoted 39 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
[...]

Quoted 2 lines
(quoted diff) +0 -0
@@ -473,16 +474,24 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct
 mm_struct *next,

[...]

Quoted 29 lines
arch/x86/mm/tlb.c +18 -1
@@ -510,16 +520,35 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct
 mm_struct *next,
 		 * If the TLB is up to date, just use it.
 		 * The barrier synchronizes with the tlb_gen increment in
 		 * the TLB shootdown code.
+		 *
+		 * As a future optimization opportunity, it's plausible
+		 * that the x86 memory model is strong enough that this
+		 * smp_mb() isn't needed.
 		 */
 		smp_mb();
 		next_tlb_gen = atomic64_read(&next->context.tlb_gen);
 		if (this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.ctxs[prev_asid].tlb_gen) ==
-				next_tlb_gen)
+		    next_tlb_gen) {
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMBARRIER
+			/*
+			 * We switched logical mm but we're not going to
+			 * write to CR3.  We already did smp_mb() above,
+			 * but membarrier() might require a sync_core()
+			 * as well.
+			 */
+			if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
+				     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE))
+				sync_core_before_usermode();
+#endif
+
 			return;
+		}

[...]

Quoted 3 lines

I find that mixing up preprocessor #ifdef and code logic hurts readability. Can you lift this into a static function within the same compile unit, and provides an empty implementation for the #else case ?

Done.

Quoted 9 lines

Thanks,

Mathieu

	prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
author maintainer
#10 lore raw

PATCH 3/8 membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

membarrier_arch_switch_mm()'s sole implementation and caller are in arch/powerpc. Having a fallback implementation in include/linux is confusing -- remove it.

It's still mentioned in a comment, but a subsequent patch will remove it.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 include/linux/sched/mm.h | 7 -------
 1 file changed, 7 deletions(-)
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -7
index 24d97d1b6252..10aace21d25e 100644
@@ -350,13 +350,6 @@ extern void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm);
 extern void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm);
 
 #else
-#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_CALLBACKS
-static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
-					     struct mm_struct *next,
-					     struct task_struct *tsk)
-{
-}
-#endif
 static inline void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 {
 }
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#11 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 3/8] membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 11 lines

membarrier_arch_switch_mm()'s sole implementation and caller are in arch/powerpc. Having a fallback implementation in include/linux is confusing -- remove it.

It's still mentioned in a comment, but a subsequent patch will remove it.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Quoted 26 lines
---
 include/linux/sched/mm.h | 7 -------
 1 file changed, 7 deletions(-)
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -7
index 24d97d1b6252..10aace21d25e 100644
@@ -350,13 +350,6 @@ extern void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm);
 extern void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm);
 
 #else
-#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_CALLBACKS
-static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
-					     struct mm_struct *next,
-					     struct task_struct *tsk)
-{
-}
-#endif
 static inline void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 {
 }
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#12 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 3/8] membarrier: Remove membarrier_arch_switch_mm() prototype in core code

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 7 lines · ----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:

membarrier_arch_switch_mm()'s sole implementation and caller are in arch/powerpc. Having a fallback implementation in include/linux is confusing -- remove it.

It's still mentioned in a comment, but a subsequent patch will remove it.

Quoted 28 lines
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>

---
include/linux/sched/mm.h | 7 -------

1 file changed, 7 deletions(-)
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -8
index 24d97d1b6252..10aace21d25e 100644
@@ -350,13 +350,6 @@ extern void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm);
 extern void membarrier_update_current_mm(struct mm_struct *next_mm);
 
 #else
-#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_CALLBACKS
-static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
-					     struct mm_struct *next,
-					     struct task_struct *tsk)
-{
-}
-#endif
 static inline void membarrier_exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 {
 }
--

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#13 lore raw

PATCH 4/8 membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

Simplify the logic by adding an explicit barrier, and allow architectures to override it as an optimization if they want to.

One of the deleted comments in this patch said "It is therefore possible to schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing through switch_mm()". It is possible to do this without, say, writing to CR3 on x86, but the core scheduler indeed calls switch_mm_irqs_off() to tell the arch code to go back from lazy mode to no-lazy mode.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 include/linux/sched/mm.h | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
 kernel/kthread.c         | 12 +-----------
 kernel/sched/core.c      | 35 +++++++++--------------------------
 3 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-)
include/linux/sched/mm.h +21 -0
index 10aace21d25e..c6eebbafadb0 100644
@@ -341,6 +341,27 @@ enum {
 	MEMBARRIER_FLAG_RSEQ		= (1U << 1),
 };
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMBARRIER
+
+/*
+ * Called by the core scheduler after calling switch_mm_irqs_off().
+ * Architectures that have implicit barriers when switching mms can
+ * override this as an optimization.
+ */
+#ifndef membarrier_finish_switch_mm
+static inline void membarrier_finish_switch_mm(int membarrier_state)
+{
+	if (membarrier_state & (MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED | MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED))
+		smp_mb();
+}
+#endif
+
+#else
+
+static inline void membarrier_finish_switch_mm(int membarrier_state) {}
+
+#endif
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_CALLBACKS
 #include <asm/membarrier.h>
 #endif
kernel/kthread.c +1 -11
index fe3f2a40d61e..8275b415acec 100644
@@ -1325,25 +1325,15 @@ void kthread_use_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	tsk->mm = mm;
 	membarrier_update_current_mm(mm);
 	switch_mm_irqs_off(active_mm, mm, tsk);
+	membarrier_finish_switch_mm(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state));
 	local_irq_enable();
 	task_unlock(tsk);
 #ifdef finish_arch_post_lock_switch
 	finish_arch_post_lock_switch();
 #endif
 
-	/*
-	 * When a kthread starts operating on an address space, the loop
-	 * in membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may not observe
-	 * that tsk->mm, and not issue an IPI. Membarrier requires a
-	 * memory barrier after storing to tsk->mm, before accessing
-	 * user-space memory. A full memory barrier for membarrier
-	 * {PRIVATE,GLOBAL}_EXPEDITED is implicitly provided by
-	 * mmdrop(), or explicitly with smp_mb().
-	 */
 	if (active_mm != mm)
 		mmdrop(active_mm);
-	else
-		smp_mb();
 
 	to_kthread(tsk)->oldfs = force_uaccess_begin();
 }
kernel/sched/core.c +9 -26
index e4c122f8bf21..329a6d2a4e13 100644
@@ -4221,15 +4221,6 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 
 	fire_sched_in_preempt_notifiers(current);
 
-	/*
-	 * When switching through a kernel thread, the loop in
-	 * membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may have observed that
-	 * kernel thread and not issued an IPI. It is therefore possible to
-	 * schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing though
-	 * switch_mm(). Membarrier requires a barrier after storing to
-	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, and mmdrop() provides
-	 * this barrier.
-	 */
 	if (mm)
 		mmdrop(mm);
 
@@ -4311,15 +4302,14 @@ context_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 			prev->active_mm = NULL;
 	} else {                                        // to user
 		membarrier_switch_mm(rq, prev->active_mm, next->mm);
+		switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);
+
 		/*
 		 * sys_membarrier() requires an smp_mb() between setting
-		 * rq->curr / membarrier_switch_mm() and returning to userspace.
-		 *
-		 * The below provides this either through switch_mm(), or in
-		 * case 'prev->active_mm == next->mm' through
-		 * finish_task_switch()'s mmdrop().
+		 * rq->curr->mm to a membarrier-enabled mm and returning
+		 * to userspace.
 		 */
-		switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);
+		membarrier_finish_switch_mm(rq->membarrier_state);
 
 		if (!prev->mm) {                        // from kernel
 			/* will mmdrop() in finish_task_switch(). */
@@ -5121,17 +5111,10 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(bool preempt)
 		RCU_INIT_POINTER(rq->curr, next);
 		/*
 		 * The membarrier system call requires each architecture
-		 * to have a full memory barrier after updating
-		 * rq->curr, before returning to user-space.
-		 *
-		 * Here are the schemes providing that barrier on the
-		 * various architectures:
-		 * - mm ? switch_mm() : mmdrop() for x86, s390, sparc, PowerPC.
-		 *   switch_mm() rely on membarrier_arch_switch_mm() on PowerPC.
-		 * - finish_lock_switch() for weakly-ordered
-		 *   architectures where spin_unlock is a full barrier,
-		 * - switch_to() for arm64 (weakly-ordered, spin_unlock
-		 *   is a RELEASE barrier),
+		 * to have a full memory barrier before and after updating
+		 * rq->curr->mm, before returning to userspace.  This
+		 * is provided by membarrier_finish_switch_mm().  Architectures
+		 * that want to optimize this can override that function.
 		 */
 		++*switch_count;
 
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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 5 lines

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

If you have some later changes that require this, can you post them or move this patch to them?

Quoted 10 lines

Simplify the logic by adding an explicit barrier, and allow architectures to override it as an optimization if they want to.

One of the deleted comments in this patch said "It is therefore possible to schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing through switch_mm()". It is possible to do this without, say, writing to CR3 on x86, but the core scheduler indeed calls switch_mm_irqs_off() to tell the arch code to go back from lazy mode to no-lazy mode.

Context switching threads provides a barrier as well, so that comment at least probably stands to be improved.

Thanks,
Nick

Quoted 141 lines
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 include/linux/sched/mm.h | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
 kernel/kthread.c         | 12 +-----------
 kernel/sched/core.c      | 35 +++++++++--------------------------
 3 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-)
include/linux/sched/mm.h +21 -0
index 10aace21d25e..c6eebbafadb0 100644
@@ -341,6 +341,27 @@ enum {
 	MEMBARRIER_FLAG_RSEQ		= (1U << 1),
 };
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_MEMBARRIER
+
+/*
+ * Called by the core scheduler after calling switch_mm_irqs_off().
+ * Architectures that have implicit barriers when switching mms can
+ * override this as an optimization.
+ */
+#ifndef membarrier_finish_switch_mm
+static inline void membarrier_finish_switch_mm(int membarrier_state)
+{
+	if (membarrier_state & (MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED | MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED))
+		smp_mb();
+}
+#endif
+
+#else
+
+static inline void membarrier_finish_switch_mm(int membarrier_state) {}
+
+#endif
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_CALLBACKS
 #include <asm/membarrier.h>
 #endif
kernel/kthread.c +1 -11
index fe3f2a40d61e..8275b415acec 100644
@@ -1325,25 +1325,15 @@ void kthread_use_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	tsk->mm = mm;
 	membarrier_update_current_mm(mm);
 	switch_mm_irqs_off(active_mm, mm, tsk);
+	membarrier_finish_switch_mm(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state));
 	local_irq_enable();
 	task_unlock(tsk);
 #ifdef finish_arch_post_lock_switch
 	finish_arch_post_lock_switch();
 #endif
 
-	/*
-	 * When a kthread starts operating on an address space, the loop
-	 * in membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may not observe
-	 * that tsk->mm, and not issue an IPI. Membarrier requires a
-	 * memory barrier after storing to tsk->mm, before accessing
-	 * user-space memory. A full memory barrier for membarrier
-	 * {PRIVATE,GLOBAL}_EXPEDITED is implicitly provided by
-	 * mmdrop(), or explicitly with smp_mb().
-	 */
 	if (active_mm != mm)
 		mmdrop(active_mm);
-	else
-		smp_mb();
 
 	to_kthread(tsk)->oldfs = force_uaccess_begin();
 }
kernel/sched/core.c +9 -26
index e4c122f8bf21..329a6d2a4e13 100644
@@ -4221,15 +4221,6 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 
 	fire_sched_in_preempt_notifiers(current);
 
-	/*
-	 * When switching through a kernel thread, the loop in
-	 * membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may have observed that
-	 * kernel thread and not issued an IPI. It is therefore possible to
-	 * schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing though
-	 * switch_mm(). Membarrier requires a barrier after storing to
-	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, and mmdrop() provides
-	 * this barrier.
-	 */
 	if (mm)
 		mmdrop(mm);
 
@@ -4311,15 +4302,14 @@ context_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 			prev->active_mm = NULL;
 	} else {                                        // to user
 		membarrier_switch_mm(rq, prev->active_mm, next->mm);
+		switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);
+
 		/*
 		 * sys_membarrier() requires an smp_mb() between setting
-		 * rq->curr / membarrier_switch_mm() and returning to userspace.
-		 *
-		 * The below provides this either through switch_mm(), or in
-		 * case 'prev->active_mm == next->mm' through
-		 * finish_task_switch()'s mmdrop().
+		 * rq->curr->mm to a membarrier-enabled mm and returning
+		 * to userspace.
 		 */
-		switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);
+		membarrier_finish_switch_mm(rq->membarrier_state);
 
 		if (!prev->mm) {                        // from kernel
 			/* will mmdrop() in finish_task_switch(). */
@@ -5121,17 +5111,10 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(bool preempt)
 		RCU_INIT_POINTER(rq->curr, next);
 		/*
 		 * The membarrier system call requires each architecture
-		 * to have a full memory barrier after updating
-		 * rq->curr, before returning to user-space.
-		 *
-		 * Here are the schemes providing that barrier on the
-		 * various architectures:
-		 * - mm ? switch_mm() : mmdrop() for x86, s390, sparc, PowerPC.
-		 *   switch_mm() rely on membarrier_arch_switch_mm() on PowerPC.
-		 * - finish_lock_switch() for weakly-ordered
-		 *   architectures where spin_unlock is a full barrier,
-		 * - switch_to() for arm64 (weakly-ordered, spin_unlock
-		 *   is a RELEASE barrier),
+		 * to have a full memory barrier before and after updating
+		 * rq->curr->mm, before returning to userspace.  This
+		 * is provided by membarrier_finish_switch_mm().  Architectures
+		 * that want to optimize this can override that function.
 		 */
 		++*switch_count;
 
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#15 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

Quoted 7 lines · Nicholas Piggin

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations. Larger optimizations are also in the works. Doing any of these optimizations while preserving an unnecessary barrier will complicate the code and penalize non-membarrier-using tasks.

Simplify the logic by adding an explicit barrier, and allow architectures to override it as an optimization if they want to.

One of the deleted comments in this patch said "It is therefore possible to schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing through switch_mm()". It is possible to do this without, say, writing to CR3 on x86, but the core scheduler indeed calls switch_mm_irqs_off() to tell the arch code to go back from lazy mode to no-lazy mode.

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 17, 2021 4:41 am:

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

Thanks,
Nick

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 17, 2021 4:41 am:

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

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I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

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Thanks,
Nick

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

although a more clever definition might be even more performant.

I would appreciate everyone's thoughts as to whether this scheme is sane.

Paul, I'm adding you for two reasons. First, you seem to enjoy bizarre locking schemes. Secondly, because maybe RCU could actually work here. The basic idea is that we want to keep an mm_struct from being freed at an inopportune time. The problem with naively using RCU is that each CPU can use one single mm_struct while in an idle extended quiescent state (but not a user extended quiescent state). So rcu_read_lock() is right out. If RCU could understand this concept, then maybe it could help us, but this seems a bit out of scope for RCU.

--Andy

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 17, 2021 3:32 pm:

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

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Here it is. Not even boot tested!

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

I'm not sure what you mean? For powerpc, other CPUs can be using the mm as lazy at this point. I must be missing something.

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although a more clever definition might be even more performant.

I would appreciate everyone's thoughts as to whether this scheme is sane.

powerpc has no use for it, after the series in akpm's tree there's just a small change required for radix TLB flushing to make the final flush IPI also purge lazies, and then the shootdown scheme runs with zero additional IPIs so essentially no benefit to the hazard pointer games. I have found the additional IPIs aren't bad anyway, so not something we'd bother trying to optmise away on hash, which is slowly being de-prioritized.

I must say, I still see active_mm featuring prominently in our patch which comes as a surprise. I would have thought some preparation and cleanup work first to fix the x86 deficienies you were talking about should go in first, I'm eager to see those. But either way I don't see a fundamental reason this couldn't be done to support archs for which the standard or shootdown refcounting options aren't sufficient.

IIRC I didn't see a fundamental hole in it last time you posted the idea but I admittedly didn't go through it super carefully.

Thanks,
Nick

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Paul, I'm adding you for two reasons. First, you seem to enjoy bizarre locking schemes. Secondly, because maybe RCU could actually work here. The basic idea is that we want to keep an mm_struct from being freed at an inopportune time. The problem with naively using RCU is that each CPU can use one single mm_struct while in an idle extended quiescent state (but not a user extended quiescent state). So rcu_read_lock() is right out. If RCU could understand this concept, then maybe it could help us, but this seems a bit out of scope for RCU.

--Andy

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

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https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

I'm not sure what you mean? For powerpc, other CPUs can be using the mm as lazy at this point. I must be missing something.

What I mean is: if you want to shoot down lazies instead of doing the hazard pointer trick to track them, you could do:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

which would promise to the core code that you don't have any lazies left by the time exit_mmap() is done. You might need a new hook in exit_mmap() depending on exactly how you implement the lazy shootdown.

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

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https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

I'm not sure what you mean? For powerpc, other CPUs can be using the mm as lazy at this point. I must be missing something.

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What I mean is: if you want to shoot down lazies instead of doing the hazard pointer trick to track them, you could do:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

which would promise to the core code that you don't have any lazies left by the time exit_mmap() is done. You might need a new hook in exit_mmap() depending on exactly how you implement the lazy shootdown.

Oh for configuring it away entirely. I'll have to see how it falls out, I suspect we'd want to just no-op that entire function and avoid the 2 atomics if we are taking care of our lazy mms with shootdowns.

The more important thing would be the context switch fast path, but even there, there's really no reason why the two approaches couldn't be made to both work with some careful helper functions or structuring of the code.

Thanks,
Nick

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

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https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

I'm not sure what you mean? For powerpc, other CPUs can be using the mm as lazy at this point. I must be missing something.

What I mean is: if you want to shoot down lazies instead of doing the hazard pointer trick to track them, you could do:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

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which would promise to the core code that you don't have any lazies left by the time exit_mmap() is done. You might need a new hook in exit_mmap() depending on exactly how you implement the lazy shootdown.

Oh for configuring it away entirely. I'll have to see how it falls out, I suspect we'd want to just no-op that entire function and avoid the 2 atomics if we are taking care of our lazy mms with shootdowns.

Do you mean the smp_store_release()? On x86 and similar architectures, that’s almost free. I’m also not convinced it needs to be a real release.

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The more important thing would be the context switch fast path, but even there, there's really no reason why the two approaches couldn't be made to both work with some careful helper functions or structuring of the code.

Thanks,
Nick

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Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

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membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

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The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

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I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

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Quoted 5 lines

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

I'm not sure what you mean? For powerpc, other CPUs can be using the mm as lazy at this point. I must be missing something.

What I mean is: if you want to shoot down lazies instead of doing the hazard pointer trick to track them, you could do:

#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

which would promise to the core code that you don't have any lazies left by the time exit_mmap() is done. You might need a new hook in exit_mmap() depending on exactly how you implement the lazy shootdown.

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Oh for configuring it away entirely. I'll have to see how it falls out, I suspect we'd want to just no-op that entire function and avoid the 2 atomics if we are taking care of our lazy mms with shootdowns.

Do you mean the smp_store_release()? On x86 and similar architectures, that’s almost free. I’m also not convinced it needs to be a real release.

Probably the shoot lazies code would complile that stuff out entirely so not that as such, but the entire thing including the change to the membarrier barrier (which as I said, shoot lazies could possibly take advantage of anyway).

My point is I haven't seen how everything goes together or looked at generated code so I can't exactly say yes to your question, but that there's no reason it couldn't be made to nicely fold away based on config option so I'm not too concerned about that issue.

Thanks,
Nick

maintainer
#25 lore raw

RFC PATCH 1/1 sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 1 line · Andy Lutomirski

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

It is now, it even builds a kernel.. so it must be perfect :-)

Quoted 1 line

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Since I had to turn it into a patch to post, so that I could comment on it, I've cleaned it up a little for you.

I'll reply to self with some notes, but I think I like it.

---
 arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h |   5 ++
 include/linux/sched/mm.h   |   3 +
 kernel/fork.c              |   2 +
 kernel/sched/core.c        | 138 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 kernel/sched/sched.h       |  10 +++-
 5 files changed, 130 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h +5 -0
index 5d7494631ea9..ce94162168c2 100644
@@ -66,4 +66,9 @@ typedef struct {
 void leave_mm(int cpu);
 #define leave_mm leave_mm
 
+/* On x86, mm_cpumask(mm) contains all CPUs that might be lazily using mm */
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) \
+	for_each_cpu((cpu), mm_cpumask((mm)))
+
+
 #endif /* _ASM_X86_MMU_H */
include/linux/sched/mm.h +3 -0
index e24b1fe348e3..5c7eafee6fea 100644
@@ -77,6 +77,9 @@ static inline bool mmget_not_zero(struct mm_struct *mm)
 
 /* mmput gets rid of the mappings and all user-space */
 extern void mmput(struct mm_struct *);
+
+extern void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm);
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
 /* same as above but performs the slow path from the async context. Can
  * be called from the atomic context as well
kernel/fork.c +2 -0
index e595e77913eb..57415cca088c 100644
@@ -1104,6 +1104,8 @@ static inline void __mmput(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	}
 	if (mm->binfmt)
 		module_put(mm->binfmt->module);
+
+	mm_unlazy_mm_count(mm);
 	mmdrop(mm);
 }
 
kernel/sched/core.c +111 -27

194 lines not on this page · raw message

kernel/sched/sched.h +9 -1
index 8f0194cee0ba..703d95a4abd0 100644
@@ -966,7 +966,15 @@ struct rq {
 	struct task_struct	*idle;
 	struct task_struct	*stop;
 	unsigned long		next_balance;
-	struct mm_struct	*prev_mm;
+
+	/*
+	 * Fast refcounting scheme for lazy mm.  lazy_mm is a hazard pointer:
+	 * setting it to point to a lazily used mm keeps that mm from being
+	 * freed.  drop_mm points to am mm that needs an mmdrop() call
+	 * after the CPU owning the rq is done with it.
+	 */
+	struct mm_struct	*lazy_mm;
+	struct mm_struct	*drop_mm;
 
 	unsigned int		clock_update_flags;
 	u64			clock;
maintainer
#26 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

Quoted 20 lines · Peter Zijlstra

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 10:32:15PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h +5 -0
@@ -66,4 +66,9 @@ typedef struct {
 void leave_mm(int cpu);
 #define leave_mm leave_mm
 
+/* On x86, mm_cpumask(mm) contains all CPUs that might be lazily using mm */
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) \
+	for_each_cpu((cpu), mm_cpumask((mm)))
+
+
 #endif /* _ASM_X86_MMU_H */
kernel/sched/core.c +0 -0
index 8ac693d542f6..e102ec53c2f6 100644

kernel/sched/core.c line 25

Quoted 7 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +5 -0
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
 
+
+#ifndef for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) for_each_online_cpu((cpu))
+#endif
+

Why can't the x86 implementation be the default? IIRC the problem with mm_cpumask() is that (some) architectures don't clear bits, but IIRC they all should be setting bits, or were there archs that didn't even do that?

#27 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

Excerpts from Peter Zijlstra's message of June 17, 2021 7:10 pm:

Quoted 23 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 21 lines · Andy Lutomirski
arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h +5 -0
@@ -66,4 +66,9 @@ typedef struct {
 void leave_mm(int cpu);
 #define leave_mm leave_mm
 
+/* On x86, mm_cpumask(mm) contains all CPUs that might be lazily using mm */
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) \
+	for_each_cpu((cpu), mm_cpumask((mm)))
+
+
 #endif /* _ASM_X86_MMU_H */
kernel/sched/core.c +0 -0
index 8ac693d542f6..e102ec53c2f6 100644
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
Quoted 10 lines

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4524

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +5 -0
+
+#ifndef for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) for_each_online_cpu((cpu))
+#endif
+

Why can't the x86 implementation be the default? IIRC the problem with mm_cpumask() is that (some) architectures don't clear bits, but IIRC they all should be setting bits, or were there archs that didn't even do that?

There are. alpha, arm64, hexagon (of the SMP supporting ones), AFAICT.

I have a patch for alpha though (it's 2 lines :))

Thanks,
Nick

maintainer
#28 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

In reply to Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Peter Zijlstra
kernel/sched/core.c +5 -0
+static void mmdrop_lazy(struct rq *rq)
+{
+	struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+	if (likely(!READ_ONCE(rq->drop_mm)))

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4519

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +10 -0
+		return;
+
+	/*
+	 * Slow path.  This only happens when we recently stopped using
+	 * an mm that is exiting.
+	 */
+	old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, NULL);
+	if (old_mm)
+		mmdrop(old_mm);
+}

AFAICT if we observe a !NULL value on the load, the xchg() *MUST* also see !NULL (although it might see a different !NULL value). So do we want to write it something like so instead?

static void mmdrop_lazy(struct rq *rq)

{
	struct mm_struct *old_mm;

	if (likely(!READ_ONCE(rq->drop_mm)))
		return;

	/*
	 * Slow path.  This only happens when we recently stopped using
	 * an mm that is exiting.
	 */
	old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, NULL);
	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!old_mm))
		return;

	mmdrop(old_mm);
}
author maintainer
#29 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

Quoted 12 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 11 lines · Peter Zijlstra
kernel/sched/core.c +11 -0
+static void mmdrop_lazy(struct rq *rq)
+{
+	struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+	if (likely(!READ_ONCE(rq->drop_mm)))
+		return;
+
+	/*
+	 * Slow path.  This only happens when we recently stopped using
+	 * an mm that is exiting.
+	 */
Quoted 8 lines

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4519

Quoted 4 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +4 -0
+	old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, NULL);
+	if (old_mm)
+		mmdrop(old_mm);
+}

AFAICT if we observe a !NULL value on the load, the xchg() *MUST* also see !NULL (although it might see a different !NULL value). So do we want to write it something like so instead?

Like so?

Quoted 11 lines

static void mmdrop_lazy(struct rq *rq)

{
	struct mm_struct *old_mm;

	if (likely(!READ_ONCE(rq->drop_mm)))
		return;

	/*
	 * Slow path.  This only happens when we recently stopped using
	 * an mm that is exiting.

* This xchg is the only thing that can change rq->drop_mm from non-NULL to NULL, and
* multiple mmdrop_lazy() calls can't run concurrently on the same CPU.

Quoted 8 lines
	 */
	old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, NULL);
	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!old_mm))
		return;

	mmdrop(old_mm);
}

--Andy

maintainer
#30 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

In reply to Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 26 lines · Peter Zijlstra
kernel/fork.c +2 -0
index e595e77913eb..57415cca088c 100644
@@ -1104,6 +1104,8 @@ static inline void __mmput(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	}
 	if (mm->binfmt)
 		module_put(mm->binfmt->module);
+
+	mm_unlazy_mm_count(mm);
 	mmdrop(mm);
 }
 
kernel/sched/core.c +7 -0
index 8ac693d542f6..e102ec53c2f6 100644
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
+/*
+ * This converts all lazy_mm references to mm to mm_count refcounts.  Our
+ * caller holds an mm_count reference, so we don't need to worry about mm
+ * being freed out from under us.
+ */
+void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm)
+{

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4541

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +10 -0
+	unsigned int drop_count = num_possible_cpus();
+	int cpu;
+
+	/*
+	 * mm_users is zero, so no cpu will set its rq->lazy_mm to mm.
+	 */
+	WARN_ON_ONCE(atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) != 0);
+
+	/* Grab enough references for the rest of this function. */
+	atomic_add(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);

So that had me puzzled for a little while. Would something like this be a better comment?

/*
* Because this can race with mmdrop_lazy(), mm_count must be
* incremented before setting any rq->drop_mm value, otherwise
* it is possible to free mm early.
*/

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4550

Quoted 9 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +9 -0
+
+	for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) {
+		struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
+		struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+		if (smp_load_acquire(&rq->lazy_mm) != mm)
+			continue;
+
+		drop_count--;	/* grab a reference; cpu will drop it later. */

Totally confusing comment that :-)

Quoted 1 line

+

And with that, we rely on xchg() here to be at at least RELEASE, such that that mm_count increment must be visible when drop_mm is seen.

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4552

Quoted 1 line
kernel/sched/core.c +1 -0
+		old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, mm);

Similarly, we rely on it being at least ACQUIRE for the !NULL return case I think.

Quoted 26 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +26 -0
+
+		/*
+		 * We know that old_mm != mm: when we did the xchg(), we were
+		 * the only cpu to be putting mm into any drop_mm variable.
+		 */
+		WARN_ON_ONCE(old_mm == mm);
+		if (unlikely(old_mm)) {
+			/*
+			 * We just stole an mm reference from the target CPU.
+			 *
+			 * drop_mm was set to old by another call to
+			 * mm_unlazy_mm_count().  After that call xchg'd old
+			 * into drop_mm, the target CPU did:
+			 *
+			 *  smp_store_release(&rq->lazy_mm, mm);
+			 *
+			 * which synchronized with our smp_load_acquire()
+			 * above, so we know that the target CPU is done with
+			 * old. Drop old on its behalf.
+			 */
+			mmdrop(old_mm);
+		}
+	}
+
+	atomic_sub(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);
+}
author maintainer
#31 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

Quoted 42 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 26 lines · Peter Zijlstra
kernel/fork.c +2 -0
index e595e77913eb..57415cca088c 100644
@@ -1104,6 +1104,8 @@ static inline void __mmput(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	}
 	if (mm->binfmt)
 		module_put(mm->binfmt->module);
+
+	mm_unlazy_mm_count(mm);
 	mmdrop(mm);
 }
 
kernel/sched/core.c +7 -0
index 8ac693d542f6..e102ec53c2f6 100644
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
+/*
+ * This converts all lazy_mm references to mm to mm_count refcounts.  Our
+ * caller holds an mm_count reference, so we don't need to worry about mm
+ * being freed out from under us.
+ */
+void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm)
+{

kernel/sched/core.c prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, · line 4541

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +10 -0
+	unsigned int drop_count = num_possible_cpus();
+	int cpu;
+
+	/*
+	 * mm_users is zero, so no cpu will set its rq->lazy_mm to mm.
+	 */
+	WARN_ON_ONCE(atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) != 0);
+
+	/* Grab enough references for the rest of this function. */
+	atomic_add(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);

So that had me puzzled for a little while. Would something like this be a better comment?

Quoted 5 lines

/*
* Because this can race with mmdrop_lazy(), mm_count must be
* incremented before setting any rq->drop_mm value, otherwise
* it is possible to free mm early.
*/

Nope, because the caller already did it. It's an optimization, but maybe it's a poorly done optimization -- I'd rather do two atomic ops than many.

How about:

drop_count = 0;

...

if (!drop_count) {
/* Collect lots of references. We'll drop the ones we don't use. */
drop_count = num_possible_cpus();
atomic_inc(drop_count, &->mm_count);
}
drop_count--;

author maintainer
#32 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

In reply to Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 39 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 1 line · Andy Lutomirski

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

It is now, it even builds a kernel.. so it must be perfect :-)

Quoted 1 line

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Since I had to turn it into a patch to post, so that I could comment on it, I've cleaned it up a little for you.

I'll reply to self with some notes, but I think I like it.

---
 arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h |   5 ++
 include/linux/sched/mm.h   |   3 +
 kernel/fork.c              |   2 +
 kernel/sched/core.c        | 138 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 kernel/sched/sched.h       |  10 +++-
 5 files changed, 130 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h +5 -0
index 5d7494631ea9..ce94162168c2 100644
@@ -66,4 +66,9 @@ typedef struct {
 void leave_mm(int cpu);
 #define leave_mm leave_mm
 
+/* On x86, mm_cpumask(mm) contains all CPUs that might be lazily using mm */
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) \
+	for_each_cpu((cpu), mm_cpumask((mm)))
+
+
 #endif /* _ASM_X86_MMU_H */
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -0
index e24b1fe348e3..5c7eafee6fea 100644

include/linux/sched/mm.h static inline bool mmget_not_zero(struct mm_struct *mm) · line 81

Quoted 5 lines
include/linux/sched/mm.h +2 -0
@@ -77,6 +77,9 @@ static inline bool mmget_not_zero(struct mm_struct *mm)
 
 /* mmput gets rid of the mappings and all user-space */
 extern void mmput(struct mm_struct *);
+
+extern void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm);

You didn't like mm_many_words_in_the_name_of_the_function()? :)

include/linux/sched/mm.h static inline bool mmget_not_zero(struct mm_struct *mm)

Quoted 4 lines
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -4
-	if (mm) {
-		membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(mm);
-		mmdrop(mm);
-	}

What happened here?

I think that my membarrier work should land before this patch. Specifically, I want the scheduler to be in a state where nothing depends on the barrier-ness of mmdrop() so that we can change the mmdrop() calls to stop being barriers without our brains exploding trying to understand two different fancy synchronization schemes at the same time.

Other than that I like your cleanups.

maintainer
#33 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

Quoted 4 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 1 line · Peter Zijlstra

+extern void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm);

You didn't like mm_many_words_in_the_name_of_the_function()? :)

:-)

Quoted 7 lines

kernel/sched/core.c static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev) · line 4592

Quoted 4 lines
kernel/sched/core.c +0 -4
-	if (mm) {
-		membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(mm);
-		mmdrop(mm);
-	}

What happened here?

I forced your patch ontop of tip/master without bothering about the membarrier cleanups and figured I could live without that call for a little while.

But yes, that needs cleaning up.

maintainer
#34 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

In reply to Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 11 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 1 line · Andy Lutomirski

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

It is now, it even builds a kernel.. so it must be perfect :-)

Quoted 1 line

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Since I had to turn it into a patch to post, so that I could comment on it, I've cleaned it up a little for you.

I'll reply to self with some notes, but I think I like it.

But rcutorture isn't too happy with it when applied to current mainline:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[   32.559192] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[   32.559528] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 175 at kernel/fork.c:686 __mmdrop+0x9f/0xb0
[   32.560197] Modules linked in:
[   32.560470] CPU: 0 PID: 175 Comm: torture_onoff Not tainted 5.13.0-rc6+ #23
[   32.561077] Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009), BIOS 1.13.0-1ubuntu1.1 04/01/2014
[   32.561809] RIP: 0010:__mmdrop+0x9f/0xb0
[   32.562179] Code: fb 20 75 e6 48 8b 45 68 48 85 c0 0f 85 1e 48 ad 00 48 8b 3d 93 e0 c3 01 5b 48 89 ee 5d 41 5c e9 97 45 18 00 0f 0b 0f 0b eb 87 <0f> 0b eb 95 48 89 ef e8 a5 f1 17 00 eb a9 0f 1f 00 48 81 ef c0 03
[   32.563822] RSP: 0018:ffff944c40623d68 EFLAGS: 00010246
[   32.564331] RAX: ffff8e84c2339c00 RBX: ffff8e84df5572e0 RCX: 00000000fffffffa
[   32.564978] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000033 RDI: ffff8e84c29a0000
[   32.565648] RBP: ffff8e84c29a0000 R08: ffff8e84c11c774a R09: 0000000000000001
[   32.566256] R10: ffff8e85411c773f R11: ffff8e84c11c774a R12: 0000000000000057
[   32.566909] R13: 0000000000000000 R14: ffffffffb0e487f8 R15: 000000000000000d
[   32.567584] FS:  0000000000000000(0000) GS:ffff8e84df200000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
[   32.568321] CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
[   32.568860] CR2: 0000000000000000 CR3: 00000000029ec000 CR4: 00000000000006f0
[   32.569559] Call Trace:
[   32.569804]  ? takedown_cpu+0xd0/0xd0
[   32.570123]  finish_cpu+0x2e/0x40
[   32.570449]  cpuhp_invoke_callback+0xf6/0x3f0
[   32.570755]  cpuhp_invoke_callback_range+0x3b/0x80
[   32.571137]  _cpu_down+0xdf/0x2a0
[   32.571467]  cpu_down+0x2a/0x50
[   32.571771]  device_offline+0x80/0xb0
[   32.572101]  remove_cpu+0x1a/0x30
[   32.572393]  torture_offline+0x80/0x140
[   32.572730]  torture_onoff+0x147/0x260
[   32.573068]  ? torture_kthread_stopping+0xa0/0xa0
[   32.573488]  kthread+0xf9/0x130
[   32.573777]  ? kthread_park+0x80/0x80
[   32.574119]  ret_from_fork+0x22/0x30
[   32.574418] ---[ end trace b77effd8aab7f902 ]---
[   32.574819] BUG: Bad rss-counter state mm:00000000bccc5a55 type:MM_ANONPAGES val:1
[   32.575450] BUG: non-zero pgtables_bytes on freeing mm: 24576

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are we absolutely sure that the mmdrop()s are balanced in all cases?

Thanx, Paul

Quoted 275 lines
---
 arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h |   5 ++
 include/linux/sched/mm.h   |   3 +
 kernel/fork.c              |   2 +
 kernel/sched/core.c        | 138 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 kernel/sched/sched.h       |  10 +++-
 5 files changed, 130 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h +5 -0
index 5d7494631ea9..ce94162168c2 100644
@@ -66,4 +66,9 @@ typedef struct {
 void leave_mm(int cpu);
 #define leave_mm leave_mm
 
+/* On x86, mm_cpumask(mm) contains all CPUs that might be lazily using mm */
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) \
+	for_each_cpu((cpu), mm_cpumask((mm)))
+
+
 #endif /* _ASM_X86_MMU_H */
include/linux/sched/mm.h +3 -0
index e24b1fe348e3..5c7eafee6fea 100644
@@ -77,6 +77,9 @@ static inline bool mmget_not_zero(struct mm_struct *mm)
 
 /* mmput gets rid of the mappings and all user-space */
 extern void mmput(struct mm_struct *);
+
+extern void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm);
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
 /* same as above but performs the slow path from the async context. Can
  * be called from the atomic context as well
kernel/fork.c +2 -0
index e595e77913eb..57415cca088c 100644
@@ -1104,6 +1104,8 @@ static inline void __mmput(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	}
 	if (mm->binfmt)
 		module_put(mm->binfmt->module);
+
+	mm_unlazy_mm_count(mm);
 	mmdrop(mm);
 }
 
kernel/sched/core.c +111 -27
index 8ac693d542f6..e102ec53c2f6 100644
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
 #include <asm/switch_to.h>
 #include <asm/tlb.h>
+#include <asm/mmu.h>
 
 #include "../workqueue_internal.h"
 #include "../../fs/io-wq.h"
@@ -4501,6 +4502,81 @@ prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 	prepare_arch_switch(next);
 }
 
+static void mmdrop_lazy(struct rq *rq)
+{
+	struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+	if (likely(!READ_ONCE(rq->drop_mm)))
+		return;
+
+	/*
+	 * Slow path.  This only happens when we recently stopped using
+	 * an mm that is exiting.
+	 */
+	old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, NULL);
+	if (old_mm)
+		mmdrop(old_mm);
+}
+
+#ifndef for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) for_each_online_cpu((cpu))
+#endif
+
+/*
+ * This converts all lazy_mm references to mm to mm_count refcounts.  Our
+ * caller holds an mm_count reference, so we don't need to worry about mm
+ * being freed out from under us.
+ */
+void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm)
+{
+	unsigned int drop_count = num_possible_cpus();
+	int cpu;
+
+	/*
+	 * mm_users is zero, so no cpu will set its rq->lazy_mm to mm.
+	 */
+	WARN_ON_ONCE(atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) != 0);
+
+	/* Grab enough references for the rest of this function. */
+	atomic_add(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);
+
+	for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) {
+		struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
+		struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+		if (smp_load_acquire(&rq->lazy_mm) != mm)
+			continue;
+
+		drop_count--;	/* grab a reference; cpu will drop it later. */
+
+		old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, mm);
+
+		/*
+		 * We know that old_mm != mm: when we did the xchg(), we were
+		 * the only cpu to be putting mm into any drop_mm variable.
+		 */
+		WARN_ON_ONCE(old_mm == mm);
+		if (unlikely(old_mm)) {
+			/*
+			 * We just stole an mm reference from the target CPU.
+			 *
+			 * drop_mm was set to old by another call to
+			 * mm_unlazy_mm_count().  After that call xchg'd old
+			 * into drop_mm, the target CPU did:
+			 *
+			 *  smp_store_release(&rq->lazy_mm, mm);
+			 *
+			 * which synchronized with our smp_load_acquire()
+			 * above, so we know that the target CPU is done with
+			 * old. Drop old on its behalf.
+			 */
+			mmdrop(old_mm);
+		}
+	}
+
+	atomic_sub(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);
+}
+
 /**
  * finish_task_switch - clean up after a task-switch
  * @prev: the thread we just switched away from.
@@ -4524,7 +4600,6 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 	__releases(rq->lock)
 {
 	struct rq *rq = this_rq();
-	struct mm_struct *mm = rq->prev_mm;
 	long prev_state;
 
 	/*
@@ -4543,8 +4618,6 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 		      current->comm, current->pid, preempt_count()))
 		preempt_count_set(FORK_PREEMPT_COUNT);
 
-	rq->prev_mm = NULL;
-
 	/*
 	 * A task struct has one reference for the use as "current".
 	 * If a task dies, then it sets TASK_DEAD in tsk->state and calls
@@ -4574,22 +4647,16 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 	kmap_local_sched_in();
 
 	fire_sched_in_preempt_notifiers(current);
+
 	/*
-	 * When switching through a kernel thread, the loop in
-	 * membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may have observed that
-	 * kernel thread and not issued an IPI. It is therefore possible to
-	 * schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing though
-	 * switch_mm(). Membarrier requires a barrier after storing to
-	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, so provide them here:
-	 *
-	 * - a full memory barrier for {PRIVATE,GLOBAL}_EXPEDITED, implicitly
-	 *   provided by mmdrop(),
-	 * - a sync_core for SYNC_CORE.
+	 * Do this unconditionally.  There's a race in which a remote CPU
+	 * sees rq->lazy_mm != NULL and gives us an extra mm ref while we
+	 * are executing this code and we don't notice.  Instead of letting
+	 * that ref sit around until the next time we unlazy, do it on every
+	 * context switch.
 	 */
-	if (mm) {
-		membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(mm);
-		mmdrop(mm);
-	}
+	mmdrop_lazy(rq);
+
 	if (unlikely(prev_state == TASK_DEAD)) {
 		if (prev->sched_class->task_dead)
 			prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
@@ -4652,25 +4719,32 @@ context_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 
 	/*
 	 * kernel -> kernel   lazy + transfer active
-	 *   user -> kernel   lazy + mmgrab() active
+	 *   user -> kernel   lazy + lazy_mm grab active
 	 *
-	 * kernel ->   user   switch + mmdrop() active
+	 * kernel ->   user   switch + lazy_mm release active
 	 *   user ->   user   switch
 	 */
 	if (!next->mm) {                                // to kernel
 		enter_lazy_tlb(prev->active_mm, next);
 
 		next->active_mm = prev->active_mm;
-		if (prev->mm)                           // from user
-			mmgrab(prev->active_mm);
-		else
+		if (prev->mm) {                         // from user
+			SCHED_WARN_ON(rq->lazy_mm);
+
+			/*
+			 * Acqure a lazy_mm reference to the active
+			 * (lazy) mm.  No explicit barrier needed: we still
+			 * hold an explicit (mm_users) reference.  __mmput()
+			 * can't be called until we call mmput() to drop
+			 * our reference, and __mmput() is a release barrier.
+			 */
+			WRITE_ONCE(rq->lazy_mm, next->active_mm);
+		} else {
 			prev->active_mm = NULL;
+		}
 	} else {                                        // to user
 		membarrier_switch_mm(rq, prev->active_mm, next->mm);
 		/*
-		 * sys_membarrier() requires an smp_mb() between setting
-		 * rq->curr / membarrier_switch_mm() and returning to userspace.
-		 *
 		 * The below provides this either through switch_mm(), or in
 		 * case 'prev->active_mm == next->mm' through
 		 * finish_task_switch()'s mmdrop().
@@ -4678,9 +4752,19 @@ context_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 		switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);
 
 		if (!prev->mm) {                        // from kernel
-			/* will mmdrop() in finish_task_switch(). */
-			rq->prev_mm = prev->active_mm;
+			/*
+			 * Even though nothing should reference ->active_mm
+			 * for a non-current task, don't leave a stale pointer
+			 * to an mm that might be freed.
+			 */
 			prev->active_mm = NULL;
+
+			/*
+			 * Drop our lazy_mm reference to the old lazy mm.
+			 * After this, any CPU may free it if it is
+			 * unreferenced.
+			 */
+			smp_store_release(&rq->lazy_mm, NULL);
 		}
 	}
 
kernel/sched/sched.h +9 -1
index 8f0194cee0ba..703d95a4abd0 100644
@@ -966,7 +966,15 @@ struct rq {
 	struct task_struct	*idle;
 	struct task_struct	*stop;
 	unsigned long		next_balance;
-	struct mm_struct	*prev_mm;
+
+	/*
+	 * Fast refcounting scheme for lazy mm.  lazy_mm is a hazard pointer:
+	 * setting it to point to a lazily used mm keeps that mm from being
+	 * freed.  drop_mm points to am mm that needs an mmdrop() call
+	 * after the CPU owning the rq is done with it.
+	 */
+	struct mm_struct	*lazy_mm;
+	struct mm_struct	*drop_mm;
 
 	unsigned int		clock_update_flags;
 	u64			clock;
author maintainer
#35 lore raw

Re: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Use lightweight hazard pointers to grab lazy mms

Quoted 40 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 11 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 1 line · Andy Lutomirski

Here it is. Not even boot tested!

It is now, it even builds a kernel.. so it must be perfect :-)

Quoted 1 line

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Since I had to turn it into a patch to post, so that I could comment on it, I've cleaned it up a little for you.

I'll reply to self with some notes, but I think I like it.

But rcutorture isn't too happy with it when applied to current mainline:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[   32.559192] ------------[ cut here ]------------
[   32.559528] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 175 at kernel/fork.c:686 
__mmdrop+0x9f/0xb0
[   32.560197] Modules linked in:
[   32.560470] CPU: 0 PID: 175 Comm: torture_onoff Not tainted 
5.13.0-rc6+ #23
[   32.561077] Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009), BIOS 
1.13.0-1ubuntu1.1 04/01/2014
[   32.561809] RIP: 0010:__mmdrop+0x9f/0xb0
[   32.562179] Code: fb 20 75 e6 48 8b 45 68 48 85 c0 0f 85 1e 48 ad 00 
48 8b 3d 93 e0 c3 01 5b 48 89 ee 5d 41 5c e9 97 45 18 00 0f 0b 0f 0b eb 
87 <0f> 0b eb 95 48 89 ef e8 a5 f1 17 00 eb a9 0f 1f 00 48 81 ef c0 03
[   32.563822] RSP: 0018:ffff944c40623d68 EFLAGS: 00010246
[   32.564331] RAX: ffff8e84c2339c00 RBX: ffff8e84df5572e0 RCX: 
00000000fffffffa
[   32.564978] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: 0000000000000033 RDI: 
ffff8e84c29a0000
[   32.565648] RBP: ffff8e84c29a0000 R08: ffff8e84c11c774a R09: 
0000000000000001
[   32.566256] R10: ffff8e85411c773f R11: ffff8e84c11c774a R12: 
0000000000000057
[   32.566909] R13: 0000000000000000 R14: ffffffffb0e487f8 R15: 

000000000000000d

Quoted 8 lines
[   32.567584] FS:  0000000000000000(0000) GS:ffff8e84df200000(0000) 
knlGS:0000000000000000
[   32.568321] CS:  0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
[   32.568860] CR2: 0000000000000000 CR3: 00000000029ec000 CR4: 
00000000000006f0
[   32.569559] Call Trace:
[   32.569804]  ? takedown_cpu+0xd0/0xd0
[   32.570123]  finish_cpu+0x2e/0x40

Whoops, good catch! The interaction between idle_thread_exit() and finish_cpu() is utter nonsense with my patch applied. I need to figure out why it works the way it does in the first place and rework it to do the right thing.

Quoted 298 lines
[   32.570449]  cpuhp_invoke_callback+0xf6/0x3f0
[   32.570755]  cpuhp_invoke_callback_range+0x3b/0x80
[   32.571137]  _cpu_down+0xdf/0x2a0
[   32.571467]  cpu_down+0x2a/0x50
[   32.571771]  device_offline+0x80/0xb0
[   32.572101]  remove_cpu+0x1a/0x30
[   32.572393]  torture_offline+0x80/0x140
[   32.572730]  torture_onoff+0x147/0x260
[   32.573068]  ? torture_kthread_stopping+0xa0/0xa0
[   32.573488]  kthread+0xf9/0x130
[   32.573777]  ? kthread_park+0x80/0x80
[   32.574119]  ret_from_fork+0x22/0x30
[   32.574418] ---[ end trace b77effd8aab7f902 ]---
[   32.574819] BUG: Bad rss-counter state mm:00000000bccc5a55 
type:MM_ANONPAGES val:1
[   32.575450] BUG: non-zero pgtables_bytes on freeing mm: 24576

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Are we absolutely sure that the mmdrop()s are balanced in all cases?

Thanx, Paul

Quoted 275 lines
---
 arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h |   5 ++
 include/linux/sched/mm.h   |   3 +
 kernel/fork.c              |   2 +
 kernel/sched/core.c        | 138 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 kernel/sched/sched.h       |  10 +++-
 5 files changed, 130 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h +5 -0
index 5d7494631ea9..ce94162168c2 100644
@@ -66,4 +66,9 @@ typedef struct {
 void leave_mm(int cpu);
 #define leave_mm leave_mm
 
+/* On x86, mm_cpumask(mm) contains all CPUs that might be lazily using mm */
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) \
+	for_each_cpu((cpu), mm_cpumask((mm)))
+
+
 #endif /* _ASM_X86_MMU_H */
include/linux/sched/mm.h +3 -0
index e24b1fe348e3..5c7eafee6fea 100644
@@ -77,6 +77,9 @@ static inline bool mmget_not_zero(struct mm_struct *mm)
 
 /* mmput gets rid of the mappings and all user-space */
 extern void mmput(struct mm_struct *);
+
+extern void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm);
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
 /* same as above but performs the slow path from the async context. Can
  * be called from the atomic context as well
kernel/fork.c +2 -0
index e595e77913eb..57415cca088c 100644
@@ -1104,6 +1104,8 @@ static inline void __mmput(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	}
 	if (mm->binfmt)
 		module_put(mm->binfmt->module);
+
+	mm_unlazy_mm_count(mm);
 	mmdrop(mm);
 }
 
kernel/sched/core.c +111 -27
index 8ac693d542f6..e102ec53c2f6 100644
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
 #include <asm/switch_to.h>
 #include <asm/tlb.h>
+#include <asm/mmu.h>
 
 #include "../workqueue_internal.h"
 #include "../../fs/io-wq.h"
@@ -4501,6 +4502,81 @@ prepare_task_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 	prepare_arch_switch(next);
 }
 
+static void mmdrop_lazy(struct rq *rq)
+{
+	struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+	if (likely(!READ_ONCE(rq->drop_mm)))
+		return;
+
+	/*
+	 * Slow path.  This only happens when we recently stopped using
+	 * an mm that is exiting.
+	 */
+	old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, NULL);
+	if (old_mm)
+		mmdrop(old_mm);
+}
+
+#ifndef for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu
+#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) for_each_online_cpu((cpu))
+#endif
+
+/*
+ * This converts all lazy_mm references to mm to mm_count refcounts.  Our
+ * caller holds an mm_count reference, so we don't need to worry about mm
+ * being freed out from under us.
+ */
+void mm_unlazy_mm_count(struct mm_struct *mm)
+{
+	unsigned int drop_count = num_possible_cpus();
+	int cpu;
+
+	/*
+	 * mm_users is zero, so no cpu will set its rq->lazy_mm to mm.
+	 */
+	WARN_ON_ONCE(atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) != 0);
+
+	/* Grab enough references for the rest of this function. */
+	atomic_add(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);
+
+	for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu(cpu, mm) {
+		struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
+		struct mm_struct *old_mm;
+
+		if (smp_load_acquire(&rq->lazy_mm) != mm)
+			continue;
+
+		drop_count--;	/* grab a reference; cpu will drop it later. */
+
+		old_mm = xchg(&rq->drop_mm, mm);
+
+		/*
+		 * We know that old_mm != mm: when we did the xchg(), we were
+		 * the only cpu to be putting mm into any drop_mm variable.
+		 */
+		WARN_ON_ONCE(old_mm == mm);
+		if (unlikely(old_mm)) {
+			/*
+			 * We just stole an mm reference from the target CPU.
+			 *
+			 * drop_mm was set to old by another call to
+			 * mm_unlazy_mm_count().  After that call xchg'd old
+			 * into drop_mm, the target CPU did:
+			 *
+			 *  smp_store_release(&rq->lazy_mm, mm);
+			 *
+			 * which synchronized with our smp_load_acquire()
+			 * above, so we know that the target CPU is done with
+			 * old. Drop old on its behalf.
+			 */
+			mmdrop(old_mm);
+		}
+	}
+
+	atomic_sub(drop_count, &mm->mm_count);
+}
+
 /**
  * finish_task_switch - clean up after a task-switch
  * @prev: the thread we just switched away from.
@@ -4524,7 +4600,6 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 	__releases(rq->lock)
 {
 	struct rq *rq = this_rq();
-	struct mm_struct *mm = rq->prev_mm;
 	long prev_state;
 
 	/*
@@ -4543,8 +4618,6 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 		      current->comm, current->pid, preempt_count()))
 		preempt_count_set(FORK_PREEMPT_COUNT);
 
-	rq->prev_mm = NULL;
-
 	/*
 	 * A task struct has one reference for the use as "current".
 	 * If a task dies, then it sets TASK_DEAD in tsk->state and calls
@@ -4574,22 +4647,16 @@ static struct rq *finish_task_switch(struct task_struct *prev)
 	kmap_local_sched_in();
 
 	fire_sched_in_preempt_notifiers(current);
+
 	/*
-	 * When switching through a kernel thread, the loop in
-	 * membarrier_{private,global}_expedited() may have observed that
-	 * kernel thread and not issued an IPI. It is therefore possible to
-	 * schedule between user->kernel->user threads without passing though
-	 * switch_mm(). Membarrier requires a barrier after storing to
-	 * rq->curr, before returning to userspace, so provide them here:
-	 *
-	 * - a full memory barrier for {PRIVATE,GLOBAL}_EXPEDITED, implicitly
-	 *   provided by mmdrop(),
-	 * - a sync_core for SYNC_CORE.
+	 * Do this unconditionally.  There's a race in which a remote CPU
+	 * sees rq->lazy_mm != NULL and gives us an extra mm ref while we
+	 * are executing this code and we don't notice.  Instead of letting
+	 * that ref sit around until the next time we unlazy, do it on every
+	 * context switch.
 	 */
-	if (mm) {
-		membarrier_mm_sync_core_before_usermode(mm);
-		mmdrop(mm);
-	}
+	mmdrop_lazy(rq);
+
 	if (unlikely(prev_state == TASK_DEAD)) {
 		if (prev->sched_class->task_dead)
 			prev->sched_class->task_dead(prev);
@@ -4652,25 +4719,32 @@ context_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 
 	/*
 	 * kernel -> kernel   lazy + transfer active
-	 *   user -> kernel   lazy + mmgrab() active
+	 *   user -> kernel   lazy + lazy_mm grab active
 	 *
-	 * kernel ->   user   switch + mmdrop() active
+	 * kernel ->   user   switch + lazy_mm release active
 	 *   user ->   user   switch
 	 */
 	if (!next->mm) {                                // to kernel
 		enter_lazy_tlb(prev->active_mm, next);
 
 		next->active_mm = prev->active_mm;
-		if (prev->mm)                           // from user
-			mmgrab(prev->active_mm);
-		else
+		if (prev->mm) {                         // from user
+			SCHED_WARN_ON(rq->lazy_mm);
+
+			/*
+			 * Acqure a lazy_mm reference to the active
+			 * (lazy) mm.  No explicit barrier needed: we still
+			 * hold an explicit (mm_users) reference.  __mmput()
+			 * can't be called until we call mmput() to drop
+			 * our reference, and __mmput() is a release barrier.
+			 */
+			WRITE_ONCE(rq->lazy_mm, next->active_mm);
+		} else {
 			prev->active_mm = NULL;
+		}
 	} else {                                        // to user
 		membarrier_switch_mm(rq, prev->active_mm, next->mm);
 		/*
-		 * sys_membarrier() requires an smp_mb() between setting
-		 * rq->curr / membarrier_switch_mm() and returning to userspace.
-		 *
 		 * The below provides this either through switch_mm(), or in
 		 * case 'prev->active_mm == next->mm' through
 		 * finish_task_switch()'s mmdrop().
@@ -4678,9 +4752,19 @@ context_switch(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev,
 		switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);
 
 		if (!prev->mm) {                        // from kernel
-			/* will mmdrop() in finish_task_switch(). */
-			rq->prev_mm = prev->active_mm;
+			/*
+			 * Even though nothing should reference ->active_mm
+			 * for a non-current task, don't leave a stale pointer
+			 * to an mm that might be freed.
+			 */
 			prev->active_mm = NULL;
+
+			/*
+			 * Drop our lazy_mm reference to the old lazy mm.
+			 * After this, any CPU may free it if it is
+			 * unreferenced.
+			 */
+			smp_store_release(&rq->lazy_mm, NULL);
 		}
 	}
 
kernel/sched/sched.h +9 -1
index 8f0194cee0ba..703d95a4abd0 100644
@@ -966,7 +966,15 @@ struct rq {
 	struct task_struct	*idle;
 	struct task_struct	*stop;
 	unsigned long		next_balance;
-	struct mm_struct	*prev_mm;
+
+	/*
+	 * Fast refcounting scheme for lazy mm.  lazy_mm is a hazard pointer:
+	 * setting it to point to a lazily used mm keeps that mm from being
+	 * freed.  drop_mm points to am mm that needs an mmdrop() call
+	 * after the CPU owning the rq is done with it.
+	 */
+	struct mm_struct	*lazy_mm;
+	struct mm_struct	*drop_mm;
 
 	unsigned int		clock_update_flags;
 	u64			clock;
maintainer
#36 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 47 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 46 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 45 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 17, 2021 4:41 am:

Quoted 35 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 15 lines · Nicholas Piggin
Quoted 7 lines

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 5 lines

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. This is very fragile -- any change to the relevant parts of the scheduler might get rid of these barriers, and it's not really clear to me that the barrier actually exists in all necessary cases.

Quoted 6 lines

The comments and barriers in the mmdrop() hunks? I don't see what is fragile or maybe-buggy about this. The barrier definitely exists.

And any change can change anything, that doesn't make it fragile. My lazy tlb refcounting change avoids the mmdrop in some cases, but it replaces it with smp_mb for example.

Quoted 7 lines

I'm with Nick again, on this. You're adding extra barriers for no discernible reason, that's not generally encouraged, seeing how extra barriers is extra slow.

Both mmdrop() itself, as well as the callsite have comments saying how membarrier relies on the implied barrier, what's fragile about that?

My real motivation is that mmgrab() and mmdrop() don't actually need to be full barriers. The current implementation has them being full barriers, and the current implementation is quite slow. So let's try that commit message again:

membarrier() needs a barrier after any CPU changes mm. There is currently a comment explaining why this barrier probably exists in all cases. The logic is based on ensuring that the barrier exists on every control flow path through the scheduler. It also relies on mmgrab() and mmdrop() being full barriers.

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mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization, mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop() could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

I'm not against the idea, I've looked at something similar before (not for mmdrop but a different primitive). Also my lazy tlb shootdown series could possibly take advantage of this, I might cherry pick it and test performance :)

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I don't think it belongs in this series though. Should go together with something that takes advantage of it.

I’m going to see if I can get hazard pointers into shape quickly.

One textbook C implementation is in perfbook CodeSamples/defer/hazptr.[hc]
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulmck/perfbook.git

A production-tested C++ implementation is in the folly library:

https://github.com/facebook/folly/blob/master/folly/synchronization/Hazptr.h

However, the hazard-pointers get-a-reference operation requires a full barrier. There are ways to optimize this away in some special cases, one of which is used in the folly-library hash-map code.

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Here it is. Not even boot tested!

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=sched/lazymm&id=ecc3992c36cb88087df9c537e2326efb51c95e31

Nick, I think you can accomplish much the same thing as your patch by:

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#define for_each_possible_lazymm_cpu while (false)

although a more clever definition might be even more performant.

I would appreciate everyone's thoughts as to whether this scheme is sane.

Paul, I'm adding you for two reasons. First, you seem to enjoy bizarre locking schemes. Secondly, because maybe RCU could actually work here. The basic idea is that we want to keep an mm_struct from being freed at an inopportune time. The problem with naively using RCU is that each CPU can use one single mm_struct while in an idle extended quiescent state (but not a user extended quiescent state). So rcu_read_lock() is right out. If RCU could understand this concept, then maybe it could help us, but this seems a bit out of scope for RCU.

OK, I should look at your patch, but that will be after morning meetings.

On RCU and idle, much of the idle code now allows rcu_read_lock() to be directly, thanks to Peter's recent work. Any sort of interrupt or NMI from idle can also use rcu_read_lock(), including the IPIs that are now done directly from idle. RCU_NONIDLE() makes RCU pay attention to the code supplied as its sole argument.

Or is your patch really having the CPU expect a mm_struct to stick around across the full idle sojourn, and without the assistance of mmgrab() and mmdrop()?

Anyway, off to meetings... Hope this helps in the meantime.

Thanx, Paul

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#37 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

Quoted 13 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

I would appreciate everyone's thoughts as to whether this scheme is sane.

Paul, I'm adding you for two reasons. First, you seem to enjoy bizarre locking schemes. Secondly, because maybe RCU could actually work here. The basic idea is that we want to keep an mm_struct from being freed at an inopportune time. The problem with naively using RCU is that each CPU can use one single mm_struct while in an idle extended quiescent state (but not a user extended quiescent state). So rcu_read_lock() is right out. If RCU could understand this concept, then maybe it could help us, but this seems a bit out of scope for RCU.

OK, I should look at your patch, but that will be after morning meetings.

On RCU and idle, much of the idle code now allows rcu_read_lock() to be directly, thanks to Peter's recent work. Any sort of interrupt or NMI from idle can also use rcu_read_lock(), including the IPIs that are now done directly from idle. RCU_NONIDLE() makes RCU pay attention to the code supplied as its sole argument.

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Or is your patch really having the CPU expect a mm_struct to stick around across the full idle sojourn, and without the assistance of mmgrab() and mmdrop()?

I really do expect it to stick around across the full idle sojourn. Unless RCU is more magical than I think it is, this means I can't use RCU.

--Andy

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#38 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

Quoted 14 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 13 lines · Paul E. McKenney
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

I would appreciate everyone's thoughts as to whether this scheme is sane.

Paul, I'm adding you for two reasons. First, you seem to enjoy bizarre locking schemes. Secondly, because maybe RCU could actually work here. The basic idea is that we want to keep an mm_struct from being freed at an inopportune time. The problem with naively using RCU is that each CPU can use one single mm_struct while in an idle extended quiescent state (but not a user extended quiescent state). So rcu_read_lock() is right out. If RCU could understand this concept, then maybe it could help us, but this seems a bit out of scope for RCU.

OK, I should look at your patch, but that will be after morning meetings.

On RCU and idle, much of the idle code now allows rcu_read_lock() to be directly, thanks to Peter's recent work. Any sort of interrupt or NMI from idle can also use rcu_read_lock(), including the IPIs that are now done directly from idle. RCU_NONIDLE() makes RCU pay attention to the code supplied as its sole argument.

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Or is your patch really having the CPU expect a mm_struct to stick around across the full idle sojourn, and without the assistance of mmgrab() and mmdrop()?

I really do expect it to stick around across the full idle sojourn. Unless RCU is more magical than I think it is, this means I can't use RCU.

You are quite correct. And unfortunately, making RCU pay attention across the full idle sojourn would make the battery-powered embedded guys quite annoyed. And would result in OOM. You could use something like percpu_ref, but at a large memory expense. You could use something like SRCU or Tasks Trace RCU, but this would increase the overhead of freeing mm_struct structures.

Your use of per-CPU pointers seems sound in principle, but I am uncertain of some of the corner cases. And either current mainline gained an mmdrop-balance bug or rcutorture is also uncertain of those corner cases. But again, the overall concept looks quite good. Just some bugs to be found and fixed, whether in this patch or in current mainline. As always... ;-)

Thanx, Paul

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#39 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 4/8] membarrier: Make the post-switch-mm barrier explicit

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 5 lines · Andy Lutomirski

mmgrab() and mmdrop() would be better if they were not full barriers. As a trivial optimization,

mmgrab() could use a relaxed atomic and mmdrop()
could use a release on architectures that have these operations.

mmgrab() *is* relaxed, mmdrop() is a full barrier but could trivially be made weaker once membarrier stops caring about it.

static inline void mmdrop(struct mm_struct *mm)

{
	unsigned int val = atomic_dec_return_release(&mm->mm_count);
	if (unlikely(!val)) {
		/* Provide REL+ACQ ordering for free() */
		smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep();
		__mmdrop(mm);
	}
}

It's slightly less optimal for not being able to use the flags from the decrement. Or convert the whole thing to refcount_t (if appropriate) which already does something like the above.

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#40 lore raw

PATCH 5/8 membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

membarrier reads cpu_rq(remote cpu)->curr->mm without locking. Use READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() to remove the data races.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 fs/exec.c                 | 2 +-
 kernel/kthread.c          | 4 ++--
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 6 +++---
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
fs/exec.c +1 -1
index 18594f11c31f..2e63dea83411 100644
@@ -1007,7 +1007,7 @@ static int exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	local_irq_disable();
 	active_mm = tsk->active_mm;
 	tsk->active_mm = mm;
-	tsk->mm = mm;
+	WRITE_ONCE(tsk->mm, mm);  /* membarrier reads this without locks */
 	/*
 	 * This prevents preemption while active_mm is being loaded and
 	 * it and mm are being updated, which could cause problems for
kernel/kthread.c +2 -2
index 8275b415acec..4962794e02d5 100644
@@ -1322,7 +1322,7 @@ void kthread_use_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
 		mmgrab(mm);
 		tsk->active_mm = mm;
 	}
-	tsk->mm = mm;
+	WRITE_ONCE(tsk->mm, mm);  /* membarrier reads this without locks */
 	membarrier_update_current_mm(mm);
 	switch_mm_irqs_off(active_mm, mm, tsk);
 	membarrier_finish_switch_mm(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state));
@@ -1363,7 +1363,7 @@ void kthread_unuse_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	smp_mb__after_spinlock();
 	sync_mm_rss(mm);
 	local_irq_disable();
-	tsk->mm = NULL;
+	WRITE_ONCE(tsk->mm, NULL);  /* membarrier reads this without locks */
 	membarrier_update_current_mm(NULL);
 	/* active_mm is still 'mm' */
 	enter_lazy_tlb(mm, tsk);
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +3 -3
index 3173b063d358..c32c32a2441e 100644
@@ -410,7 +410,7 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id)
 			goto out;
 		rcu_read_lock();
 		p = rcu_dereference(cpu_rq(cpu_id)->curr);
-		if (!p || p->mm != mm) {
+		if (!p || READ_ONCE(p->mm) != mm) {
 			rcu_read_unlock();
 			goto out;
 		}
@@ -423,7 +423,7 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id)
 			struct task_struct *p;
 
 			p = rcu_dereference(cpu_rq(cpu)->curr);
-			if (p && p->mm == mm)
+			if (p && READ_ONCE(p->mm) == mm)
 				__cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
 		}
 		rcu_read_unlock();
@@ -521,7 +521,7 @@ static int sync_runqueues_membarrier_state(struct mm_struct *mm)
 		struct task_struct *p;
 
 		p = rcu_dereference(rq->curr);
-		if (p && p->mm == mm)
+		if (p && READ_ONCE(p->mm) == mm)
 			__cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
 	}
 	rcu_read_unlock();
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#41 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 5/8] membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 62 lines

membarrier reads cpu_rq(remote cpu)->curr->mm without locking. Use READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() to remove the data races.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 fs/exec.c                 | 2 +-
 kernel/kthread.c          | 4 ++--
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c | 6 +++---
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
fs/exec.c +1 -1
index 18594f11c31f..2e63dea83411 100644
@@ -1007,7 +1007,7 @@ static int exec_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	local_irq_disable();
 	active_mm = tsk->active_mm;
 	tsk->active_mm = mm;
-	tsk->mm = mm;
+	WRITE_ONCE(tsk->mm, mm);  /* membarrier reads this without locks */
 	/*
 	 * This prevents preemption while active_mm is being loaded and
 	 * it and mm are being updated, which could cause problems for
kernel/kthread.c +2 -2
index 8275b415acec..4962794e02d5 100644
@@ -1322,7 +1322,7 @@ void kthread_use_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
 		mmgrab(mm);
 		tsk->active_mm = mm;
 	}
-	tsk->mm = mm;
+	WRITE_ONCE(tsk->mm, mm);  /* membarrier reads this without locks */
 	membarrier_update_current_mm(mm);
 	switch_mm_irqs_off(active_mm, mm, tsk);
 	membarrier_finish_switch_mm(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state));
@@ -1363,7 +1363,7 @@ void kthread_unuse_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
 	smp_mb__after_spinlock();
 	sync_mm_rss(mm);
 	local_irq_disable();
-	tsk->mm = NULL;
+	WRITE_ONCE(tsk->mm, NULL);  /* membarrier reads this without locks */
 	membarrier_update_current_mm(NULL);
 	/* active_mm is still 'mm' */
 	enter_lazy_tlb(mm, tsk);
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +1 -1
index 3173b063d358..c32c32a2441e 100644
@@ -410,7 +410,7 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id)
 			goto out;
 		rcu_read_lock();
 		p = rcu_dereference(cpu_rq(cpu_id)->curr);
-		if (!p || p->mm != mm) {
+		if (!p || READ_ONCE(p->mm) != mm) {
 			rcu_read_unlock();
 			goto out;
 		}

kernel/sched/membarrier.c static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) · line 426

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +1 -1
@@ -423,7 +423,7 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id)
 			struct task_struct *p;
 
 			p = rcu_dereference(cpu_rq(cpu)->curr);
-			if (p && p->mm == mm)
+			if (p && READ_ONCE(p->mm) == mm)

/* exec, kthread_use_mm write this without locks */ ?

Seems good to me.

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kernel/sched/membarrier.c +1 -1
 				__cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
 		}
 		rcu_read_unlock();
@@ -521,7 +521,7 @@ static int sync_runqueues_membarrier_state(struct mm_struct *mm)
 		struct task_struct *p;
 
 		p = rcu_dereference(rq->curr);
-		if (p && p->mm == mm)
+		if (p && READ_ONCE(p->mm) == mm)
 			__cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
 	}
 	rcu_read_unlock();
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#42 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 5/8] membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 2 lines · ----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:

membarrier reads cpu_rq(remote cpu)->curr->mm without locking. Use READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() to remove the data races.

I notice that kernel/exit.c:exit_mm() also has:

        current->mm = NULL;

I suspect you may want to add a WRITE_ONCE() there as well ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

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#43 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 5/8] membarrier, kthread: Use _ONCE accessors for task->mm

Quoted 10 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers
Quoted 2 lines · ----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:

membarrier reads cpu_rq(remote cpu)->curr->mm without locking. Use READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() to remove the data races.

I notice that kernel/exit.c:exit_mm() also has:

        current->mm = NULL;

I suspect you may want to add a WRITE_ONCE() there as well ?

Good catch. I was thinking that exit_mm() couldn't execute concurrently with membarrier(), but that's wrong.

--Andy

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#44 lore raw

PATCH 6/8 powerpc/membarrier: Remove special barrier on mm switch

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

powerpc did the following on some, but not all, paths through switch_mm_irqs_off():

/*
* Only need the full barrier when switching between processes.
* Barrier when switching from kernel to userspace is not
* required here, given that it is implied by mmdrop(). Barrier
* when switching from userspace to kernel is not needed after
* store to rq->curr.
*/
if (likely(!(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
(MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED |
MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED)) || !prev))
return;

This is puzzling: if !prev, then one might expect that we are switching from kernel to user, not user to kernel, which is inconsistent with the comment. But this is all nonsense, because the one and only caller would never have prev == NULL and would, in fact, OOPS if prev == NULL.

In any event, this code is unnecessary, since the new generic membarrier_finish_switch_mm() provides the same barrier without arch help.

Cc Michael Ellerman <[email protected]>
Cc Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
Cc Paul Mackerras <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h | 27 ---------------------------
 arch/powerpc/mm/mmu_context.c         |  2 --
 2 files changed, 29 deletions(-)
 delete mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h
arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h deleted +0 -27
deleted file mode 100644
index 6e20bb5c74ea..000000000000
@@ -1,27 +0,0 @@
-#ifndef _ASM_POWERPC_MEMBARRIER_H
-#define _ASM_POWERPC_MEMBARRIER_H
-
-static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
-					     struct mm_struct *next,
-					     struct task_struct *tsk)
-{
-	/*
-	 * Only need the full barrier when switching between processes.
-	 * Barrier when switching from kernel to userspace is not
-	 * required here, given that it is implied by mmdrop(). Barrier
-	 * when switching from userspace to kernel is not needed after
-	 * store to rq->curr.
-	 */
-	if (likely(!(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
-		     (MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED |
-		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED)) || !prev))
-		return;
-
-	/*
-	 * The membarrier system call requires a full memory barrier
-	 * after storing to rq->curr, before going back to user-space.
-	 */
-	smp_mb();
-}
-
-#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_MEMBARRIER_H */
arch/powerpc/mm/mmu_context.c +0 -2
index a857af401738..8daa95b3162b 100644
@@ -85,8 +85,6 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 
 	if (new_on_cpu)
 		radix_kvm_prefetch_workaround(next);
-	else
-		membarrier_arch_switch_mm(prev, next, tsk);
 
 	/*
 	 * The actual HW switching method differs between the various
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#45 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 6/8] powerpc/membarrier: Remove special barrier on mm switch

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 15 lines

powerpc did the following on some, but not all, paths through switch_mm_irqs_off():

/*
* Only need the full barrier when switching between processes.
* Barrier when switching from kernel to userspace is not
* required here, given that it is implied by mmdrop(). Barrier
* when switching from userspace to kernel is not needed after
* store to rq->curr.
*/
if (likely(!(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
(MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED |
MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED)) || !prev))
return;

Quoted 4 lines

This is puzzling: if !prev, then one might expect that we are switching from kernel to user, not user to kernel, which is inconsistent with the comment. But this is all nonsense, because the one and only caller would never have prev == NULL and would, in fact, OOPS if prev == NULL.

Yeah that's strange, code definitely doesn't match comment. Good catch.

Quoted 3 lines

In any event, this code is unnecessary, since the new generic membarrier_finish_switch_mm() provides the same barrier without arch help.

If that's merged then I think this could be too. I'll do a bit more digging into this too.

Thanks,
Nick

Quoted 65 lines
Cc Michael Ellerman <[email protected]>
Cc Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
Cc Paul Mackerras <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
---
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h | 27 ---------------------------
 arch/powerpc/mm/mmu_context.c         |  2 --
 2 files changed, 29 deletions(-)
 delete mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h
arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h deleted +0 -27
deleted file mode 100644
index 6e20bb5c74ea..000000000000
@@ -1,27 +0,0 @@
-#ifndef _ASM_POWERPC_MEMBARRIER_H
-#define _ASM_POWERPC_MEMBARRIER_H
-
-static inline void membarrier_arch_switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev,
-					     struct mm_struct *next,
-					     struct task_struct *tsk)
-{
-	/*
-	 * Only need the full barrier when switching between processes.
-	 * Barrier when switching from kernel to userspace is not
-	 * required here, given that it is implied by mmdrop(). Barrier
-	 * when switching from userspace to kernel is not needed after
-	 * store to rq->curr.
-	 */
-	if (likely(!(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
-		     (MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED |
-		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED)) || !prev))
-		return;
-
-	/*
-	 * The membarrier system call requires a full memory barrier
-	 * after storing to rq->curr, before going back to user-space.
-	 */
-	smp_mb();
-}
-
-#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_MEMBARRIER_H */
arch/powerpc/mm/mmu_context.c +0 -2
index a857af401738..8daa95b3162b 100644
@@ -85,8 +85,6 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 
 	if (new_on_cpu)
 		radix_kvm_prefetch_workaround(next);
-	else
-		membarrier_arch_switch_mm(prev, next, tsk);
 
 	/*
 	 * The actual HW switching method differs between the various
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#46 lore raw

PATCH 7/8 membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Cc Russell King <[email protected]>
---
 arch/arm/Kconfig | 1 -
 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
arch/arm/Kconfig +0 -1
index 24804f11302d..89a885fba724 100644
@@ -10,7 +10,6 @@ config ARM
 	select ARCH_HAS_FORTIFY_SOURCE
 	select ARCH_HAS_KEEPINITRD
 	select ARCH_HAS_KCOV
-	select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 	select ARCH_HAS_NON_OVERLAPPING_ADDRESS_SPACE
 	select ARCH_HAS_PTE_SPECIAL if ARM_LPAE
 	select ARCH_HAS_PHYS_TO_DMA
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#47 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Yay! About time too.

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#48 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

So SYNC_CORE is there to help an architecture that needs to do something per CPU. If I$ invalidation is broadcast and I$ invalidation also triggers the flush of any uarch caches derived from it (if there are any).

Now arm_syscall() NR(cacheflush) seems to do flush_icache_user_range(), which, if I read things right, end up in arch/arm/mm/*.S, but that doesn't consider cache_ops_need_broadcast().

Will suggests that perhaps ARM 11MPCore might need this due to their I$ flush maybe not being broadcast

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#49 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 9 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

So SYNC_CORE is there to help an architecture that needs to do something per CPU. If I$ invalidation is broadcast and I$ invalidation also triggers the flush of any uarch caches derived from it (if there are any).

Incomplete sentence there: + then we don't need SYNC_CORE.

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Now arm_syscall() NR(cacheflush) seems to do flush_icache_user_range(), which, if I read things right, end up in arch/arm/mm/*.S, but that doesn't consider cache_ops_need_broadcast().

Will suggests that perhaps ARM 11MPCore might need this due to their I$ flush maybe not being broadcast

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

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On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

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So SYNC_CORE is there to help an architecture that needs to do something per CPU. If I$ invalidation is broadcast and I$ invalidation also triggers the flush of any uarch caches derived from it (if there are any).

Incomplete sentence there: + then we don't need SYNC_CORE.

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Now arm_syscall() NR(cacheflush) seems to do flush_icache_user_range(), which, if I read things right, end up in arch/arm/mm/*.S, but that doesn't consider cache_ops_need_broadcast().

Will suggests that perhaps ARM 11MPCore might need this due to their I$ flush maybe not being broadcast

If it leaves other cores with incoherent I cache, then that's already a problem for SMP cores, since there could be no guarantee that the modifications made by one core will be visible to some other core that ends up running that code - and there is little option for userspace to work around that except by pinning the thread making the modifications and subsequently executing the code to a core.

The same is also true of flush_icache_range() - which is used when loading a kernel module. In the case Will is referring to, these alias to the same code.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 21 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 6 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

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So SYNC_CORE is there to help an architecture that needs to do something per CPU. If I$ invalidation is broadcast and I$ invalidation also triggers the flush of any uarch caches derived from it (if there are any).

Incomplete sentence there: + then we don't need SYNC_CORE.

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Now arm_syscall() NR(cacheflush) seems to do flush_icache_user_range(), which, if I read things right, end up in arch/arm/mm/*.S, but that doesn't consider cache_ops_need_broadcast().

Will suggests that perhaps ARM 11MPCore might need this due to their I$ flush maybe not being broadcast

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If it leaves other cores with incoherent I cache, then that's already a problem for SMP cores, since there could be no guarantee that the modifications made by one core will be visible to some other core that ends up running that code - and there is little option for userspace to work around that except by pinning the thread making the modifications and subsequently executing the code to a core.

That's where SYNC_CORE can help. Or you make sys_cacheflush() do a system wide IPI.

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The same is also true of flush_icache_range() - which is used when loading a kernel module. In the case Will is referring to, these alias to the same code.

Yes, cache_ops_need_broadcast() seems to be missing in more places.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 29 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 21 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 6 lines · Peter Zijlstra
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Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

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So SYNC_CORE is there to help an architecture that needs to do something per CPU. If I$ invalidation is broadcast and I$ invalidation also triggers the flush of any uarch caches derived from it (if there are any).

Incomplete sentence there: + then we don't need SYNC_CORE.

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Now arm_syscall() NR(cacheflush) seems to do flush_icache_user_range(), which, if I read things right, end up in arch/arm/mm/*.S, but that doesn't consider cache_ops_need_broadcast().

Will suggests that perhaps ARM 11MPCore might need this due to their I$ flush maybe not being broadcast

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If it leaves other cores with incoherent I cache, then that's already a problem for SMP cores, since there could be no guarantee that the modifications made by one core will be visible to some other core that ends up running that code - and there is little option for userspace to work around that except by pinning the thread making the modifications and subsequently executing the code to a core.

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That's where SYNC_CORE can help. Or you make sys_cacheflush() do a system wide IPI.

If it's a problem, then it needs fixing. sys_cacheflush() is used to implement GCC's __builtin___clear_cache(). I'm not sure who added this to gcc.

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The same is also true of flush_icache_range() - which is used when loading a kernel module. In the case Will is referring to, these alias to the same code.

Yes, cache_ops_need_broadcast() seems to be missing in more places.

Likely only in places where we care about I/D coherency - as the data cache is required to be PIPT on these SMP platforms.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 30 lines · Russell King
Quoted 29 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 27 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 6 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 5 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

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So SYNC_CORE is there to help an architecture that needs to do something per CPU. If I$ invalidation is broadcast and I$ invalidation also triggers the flush of any uarch caches derived from it (if there are any).

Incomplete sentence there: + then we don't need SYNC_CORE.

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Now arm_syscall() NR(cacheflush) seems to do flush_icache_user_range(), which, if I read things right, end up in arch/arm/mm/*.S, but that doesn't consider cache_ops_need_broadcast().

Will suggests that perhaps ARM 11MPCore might need this due to their I$ flush maybe not being broadcast

If it leaves other cores with incoherent I cache, then that's already a problem for SMP cores, since there could be no guarantee that the modifications made by one core will be visible to some other core that ends up running that code - and there is little option for userspace to work around that except by pinning the thread making the modifications and subsequently executing the code to a core.

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That's where SYNC_CORE can help. Or you make sys_cacheflush() do a system wide IPI.

If it's a problem, then it needs fixing. sys_cacheflush() is used to implement GCC's __builtin___clear_cache(). I'm not sure who added this to gcc.

I'm surprised that it works. I guess it's just luck that the thread doing the code writing doesn't migrate before the sys_cacheflush() call.

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The same is also true of flush_icache_range() - which is used when loading a kernel module. In the case Will is referring to, these alias to the same code.

Yes, cache_ops_need_broadcast() seems to be missing in more places.

Likely only in places where we care about I/D coherency - as the data cache is required to be PIPT on these SMP platforms.

We had similar issue with the cache maintenance for DMA. The hack we employed (in cache.S) is relying on the MESI protocol internals and forcing a read/write for ownership before the D-cache maintenance. Luckily ARM11MPCore doesn't do speculative data loads to trigger some migration back.

The simpler fix for flush_icache_range() is to disable preemption, read a word in a cacheline to force any dirty lines on another CPU to be evicted and then issue the D-cache maintenance (for those cache lines which are still dirty on the current CPU).

It's a hack that only works on ARM11MPCore. Newer MP cores are saner.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 7 lines · Catalin Marinas
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If it's a problem, then it needs fixing. sys_cacheflush() is used to implement GCC's __builtin___clear_cache(). I'm not sure who added this to gcc.

I'm surprised that it works. I guess it's just luck that the thread doing the code writing doesn't migrate before the sys_cacheflush() call.

Maybe the platforms that use ARM MPCore avoid the issue somehow (maybe by not using self-modifying code?)

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Likely only in places where we care about I/D coherency - as the data cache is required to be PIPT on these SMP platforms.

We had similar issue with the cache maintenance for DMA. The hack we employed (in cache.S) is relying on the MESI protocol internals and forcing a read/write for ownership before the D-cache maintenance. Luckily ARM11MPCore doesn't do speculative data loads to trigger some migration back.

That's very similar to the hack that was originally implemented for MPCore DMA - see the DMA_CACHE_RWFO configuration option.

An interesting point here is that cache_ops_need_broadcast() reads MMFR3 bits 12..15, which in the MPCore TRM has nothing to with cache operation broadcasting - but luckily is documented as containing zero. So, cache_ops_need_broadcast() returns correctly (true) here.

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The simpler fix for flush_icache_range() is to disable preemption, read a word in a cacheline to force any dirty lines on another CPU to be evicted and then issue the D-cache maintenance (for those cache lines which are still dirty on the current CPU).

Is just reading sufficient? If so, why do we do a read-then-write in the MPCore DMA cache ops? Don't we need the write to force exclusive ownership? If we don't have exclusive ownership of the dirty line, how can we be sure to write it out of the caches?

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 11 lines · Russell King
Quoted 7 lines · Catalin Marinas
Quoted 3 lines · Russell King

If it's a problem, then it needs fixing. sys_cacheflush() is used to implement GCC's __builtin___clear_cache(). I'm not sure who added this to gcc.

I'm surprised that it works. I guess it's just luck that the thread doing the code writing doesn't migrate before the sys_cacheflush() call.

Maybe the platforms that use ARM MPCore avoid the issue somehow (maybe by not using self-modifying code?)

Not sure how widely it is/was used with JITs. In general, I think the systems at the time were quite tolerant to missing I-cache maintenance (maybe small caches?). We ran Linux for a while without 826cbdaff297 ("[ARM] 5092/1: Fix the I-cache invalidation on ARMv6 and later CPUs").

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Likely only in places where we care about I/D coherency - as the data cache is required to be PIPT on these SMP platforms.

We had similar issue with the cache maintenance for DMA. The hack we employed (in cache.S) is relying on the MESI protocol internals and forcing a read/write for ownership before the D-cache maintenance. Luckily ARM11MPCore doesn't do speculative data loads to trigger some migration back.

That's very similar to the hack that was originally implemented for MPCore DMA - see the DMA_CACHE_RWFO configuration option.

Well, yes, that's what I wrote above ;) (I added the hack and config option IIRC).

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An interesting point here is that cache_ops_need_broadcast() reads MMFR3 bits 12..15, which in the MPCore TRM has nothing to with cache operation broadcasting - but luckily is documented as containing zero. So, cache_ops_need_broadcast() returns correctly (true) here.

That's typical with any new feature. The 12..15 field was added in ARMv7 stating that cache maintenance is broadcast in hardware. Prior to this, the field was read-as-zero. So it's not luck but we could have avoided negating the meaning here, i.e. call it cache_ops_are_broadcast().

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The simpler fix for flush_icache_range() is to disable preemption, read a word in a cacheline to force any dirty lines on another CPU to be evicted and then issue the D-cache maintenance (for those cache lines which are still dirty on the current CPU).

Is just reading sufficient? If so, why do we do a read-then-write in the MPCore DMA cache ops? Don't we need the write to force exclusive ownership? If we don't have exclusive ownership of the dirty line, how can we be sure to write it out of the caches?

For cleaning (which is the case for I/D coherency), we only need reading since we are fine with clean lines being left in the D-cache on other CPUs. For invalidation, we indeed need to force the exclusive ownership, hence the write.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 12 lines · Catalin Marinas
Quoted 10 lines · Russell King
Quoted 4 lines · Catalin Marinas

The simpler fix for flush_icache_range() is to disable preemption, read a word in a cacheline to force any dirty lines on another CPU to be evicted and then issue the D-cache maintenance (for those cache lines which are still dirty on the current CPU).

Is just reading sufficient? If so, why do we do a read-then-write in the MPCore DMA cache ops? Don't we need the write to force exclusive ownership? If we don't have exclusive ownership of the dirty line, how can we be sure to write it out of the caches?

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For cleaning (which is the case for I/D coherency), we only need reading since we are fine with clean lines being left in the D-cache on other CPUs. For invalidation, we indeed need to force the exclusive ownership, hence the write.

Ah, I'm not sure the I-cache is broadcast in hardware on ARM11MPCore either. So fixing the D side won't be sufficient.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 13 lines · Catalin Marinas
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Quoted 10 lines · Russell King
Quoted 4 lines · Catalin Marinas

The simpler fix for flush_icache_range() is to disable preemption, read a word in a cacheline to force any dirty lines on another CPU to be evicted and then issue the D-cache maintenance (for those cache lines which are still dirty on the current CPU).

Is just reading sufficient? If so, why do we do a read-then-write in the MPCore DMA cache ops? Don't we need the write to force exclusive ownership? If we don't have exclusive ownership of the dirty line, how can we be sure to write it out of the caches?

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For cleaning (which is the case for I/D coherency), we only need reading since we are fine with clean lines being left in the D-cache on other CPUs. For invalidation, we indeed need to force the exclusive ownership, hence the write.

Ah, I'm not sure the I-cache is broadcast in hardware on ARM11MPCore either. So fixing the D side won't be sufficient.

The other question is... do we bother to fix this.

Arnd tells me that the current remaining ARM11MPCore users are:
- CNS3xxx (where there is some martinal interest in the Gateworks Laguna platform)
- Similar for OXNAS
- There used to be the Realview MPCore tile - I haven't turned that on in ages, and it may be that the 3V cell that backs up the encryption keys is dead so it may not even boot.
- Not sure about the story with QEMU - Arnd doesn't think there would be a problem there as it may not model caches.

So it seems to come down to a question about CNS3xxx and OXNAS. If these aren't being used, maybe we can drop ARM11MPCore support and the associated platforms?

Linus, Krzysztof, Neil, any input?

Thanks.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 3 lines · Russell King (Oracle)

So it seems to come down to a question about CNS3xxx and OXNAS. If these aren't being used, maybe we can drop ARM11MPCore support and the associated platforms?

Well, it appears we haven't updated software on our Gateworks Lagunas (CNS3xxx dual core) for 4 years. This is old stuff, pre-DTB and all. We have replacement setups (i.MX6 + mPCIe to mPCI bridge) which we don't use either (due to lack of interest in mPCI - the old parallel, not the express).

I don't have a problem with the CNS3xxx being dropped. In fact, we don't use anything (ARM) older than v7 here.

Chris.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

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Quoted 7 lines · Russell King (Oracle)

Arnd tells me that the current remaining ARM11MPCore users are:
- CNS3xxx (where there is some martinal interest in the Gateworks Laguna platform)
- Similar for OXNAS
- There used to be the Realview MPCore tile - I haven't turned that on in ages, and it may be that the 3V cell that backs up the encryption keys is dead so it may not even boot.

I have this machine with 4 x ARM11 MPCore, it works like a charm. I use it to test exactly this kind of stuff, I know if a kernel works on ARM11MPCore it works on anything because of how fragile it is.

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So it seems to come down to a question about CNS3xxx and OXNAS. If these aren't being used, maybe we can drop ARM11MPCore support and the associated platforms?

Linus, Krzysztof, Neil, any input?

I don't especially need to keep the ARM11MPCore machine alive, it is just a testchip after all. The Oxnas is another story, that has wide deployment and was contributed recently (2016) and has excellent support in OpenWrt so I wouldn't really want
to axe that.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 20 lines · Linus Walleij
Quoted 7 lines · Russell King (Oracle)

Arnd tells me that the current remaining ARM11MPCore users are:
- CNS3xxx (where there is some martinal interest in the Gateworks Laguna platform)
- Similar for OXNAS
- There used to be the Realview MPCore tile - I haven't turned that on in ages, and it may be that the 3V cell that backs up the encryption keys is dead so it may not even boot.

I have this machine with 4 x ARM11 MPCore, it works like a charm. I use it to test exactly this kind of stuff, I know if a kernel works on ARM11MPCore it works on anything because of how fragile it is.

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So it seems to come down to a question about CNS3xxx and OXNAS. If these aren't being used, maybe we can drop ARM11MPCore support and the associated platforms?

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Linus, Krzysztof, Neil, any input?

I don't especially need to keep the ARM11MPCore machine alive, it is just a testchip after all. The Oxnas is another story, that has wide deployment and was contributed recently (2016) and has excellent support in OpenWrt so I wouldn't really want
to axe that.

So I suppose the next question is... are these issues (with userland self-modifying code and kernel module loading) entirely theoretical or can they be produced on real hardware?

If they can't be produced on real hardware, and we attempt to fix them how do we know that the fix has worked...

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

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Quoted 6 lines · Linus Walleij
Quoted 4 lines · Russell King (Oracle)

So it seems to come down to a question about CNS3xxx and OXNAS. If these aren't being used, maybe we can drop ARM11MPCore support and the associated platforms?

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Linus, Krzysztof, Neil, any input?

I don't especially need to keep the ARM11MPCore machine alive, it is just a testchip after all. The Oxnas is another story, that has wide deployment and was contributed recently (2016) and has excellent support in OpenWrt so I wouldn't really want to axe that.

Agreed, as long as oxnas and/or cns3xxx are around, we should just keep the realview 11mpcore support, but if both of the commercial platforms are gone, then the realview can be retired as far as I'm concerned.

Regarding oxnas, I see that OpenWRT has a number of essential device drivers (sata, pcie, usb and reset) that look like they could just be merged upstream, but that effort appears to have stalled: no device support was added to the dts files since the original 2016 merge. While the support in OpenWRT may be excellent, the platform support in the mainline kernel is limited to ethernet, nand, uart and gpio.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

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Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).

If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers this. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Likewise for ARMv8-A; the latest manual (ARM DDI 0487G.a) covers this in sections B2.2.5 and E2.3.5. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0487/ga

I am not sure about exactly what's required 11MPcore, since that's somewhat a special case as the only SMP design prior to ARMv7-A mandating broadcast maintenance.

For intuition's sake, one reason for this is that once a CPU has fetched an instruction from an instruction cache into its pipeline and that instruction is "in-flight", changes to that instruction cache are not guaranteed to affect the "in-flight" copy (which e.g. could be decomposed into micro-ops and so on). While these parts of a CPU aren't necessarily designed as caches, they effectively transiently cache a stale copy of the instruction while it is being executed.

This is more pronounced on newer designs with more complex execution pipelines (e.g. with bigger windows for out-of-order execution and speculation), and generally it's unlikely for this to be noticed on smaller/simpler designs.

As above, modifying instructions requires two things:

1) Making sure that *subsequent* instruction fetches will see the new instructions. This is what cacheflush(2) does, and this is similar to what SW does on arm64 with DC CVAU + IC IVAU instructions and associated memory barriers.

2) Making sure that a CPU fetches the instructions *after* the cache maintenance is complete. There are a few ways to do this:

* A context synchronization event (e.g. an ISB or exception return) on the CPU that will execute the instructions. This is what membarrier(SYNC_CORE) does.

* In ARMv8-A there are some restrictions on the order in which modified instructions are guaranteed to be observed (e.g. if you publish a function, then subsequently install a branch to that new function), where an ISB may not be necessary. In the latest ARMv8-A manual as linked above, those are described in sections:

- B2.3.8 "Ordering of instruction fetches" (for 64-bit)
- E2.3.8 "Ordering of instruction fetches" (for 32-bit)

* Where we can guarantee that a CPU cannot possibly have an instruction in-flight (e.g. due to a lack of a mapping to fetch instructions from), nothing is necessary. This is what we rely on when faulting in code pages. In these cases, the CPU is liable to take fault on the missing translation anyway.

Thanks,
Mark.

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Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Cc Russell King <[email protected]>
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 	select ARCH_HAS_FORTIFY_SOURCE
 	select ARCH_HAS_KEEPINITRD
 	select ARCH_HAS_KCOV
-	select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 	select ARCH_HAS_NON_OVERLAPPING_ADDRESS_SPACE
 	select ARCH_HAS_PTE_SPECIAL if ARM_LPAE
 	select ARCH_HAS_PHYS_TO_DMA
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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 11 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).

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If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers this. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Looking at that, sys_cacheflush() meets this. The manual details a series of cache maintenance calls in "step 1" that the modifying thread must issue - this is exactly what sys_cacheflush() does. The same is true for ARMv6, except the "ISB" terminology is replaced by a "PrefetchFlush" terminology. (I checked DDI0100I).

"step 2" requires an ISB on the "other CPU" prior to executing that code. As I understand it, in ARMv7, userspace can issue an ISB itself.

For ARMv6K, it doesn't have ISB, but instead has a CP15 instruction for this that isn't availble to userspace. This is where we come to the situation about ARM 11MPCore, and whether we continue to support it or not.

So, I think we're completely fine with ARMv7 under 32-bit ARM kernels as userspace has everything that's required. ARMv6K is a different matter as we've already identified for several reasons.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 27 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 11 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).

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If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers this. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Looking at that, sys_cacheflush() meets this. The manual details a series of cache maintenance calls in "step 1" that the modifying thread must issue - this is exactly what sys_cacheflush() does. The same is true for ARMv6, except the "ISB" terminology is replaced by a "PrefetchFlush" terminology. (I checked DDI0100I).

"step 2" requires an ISB on the "other CPU" prior to executing that code. As I understand it, in ARMv7, userspace can issue an ISB itself.

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For ARMv6K, it doesn't have ISB, but instead has a CP15 instruction for this that isn't availble to userspace. This is where we come to the situation about ARM 11MPCore, and whether we continue to support it or not.

So, I think we're completely fine with ARMv7 under 32-bit ARM kernels as userspace has everything that's required. ARMv6K is a different matter as we've already identified for several reasons.

Sure, and I agree we should not change cacheflush().

The point of membarrier(SYNC_CORE) is that you can move the cost of that ISB out of the fast-path in the executing thread(s) and into the slow-path on the thread which generated the code.

So e.g. rather than an executing thread always having to do:

	LDR	<reg>, [<funcptr>]
	ISB	// in case funcptr was just updated
	BLR	<reg>

... you have the thread generating the code use membarrier(SYNC_CORE) prior to plublishing the funcptr, and the fast-path on all the executing threads can be:

	LDR	<reg> [<funcptr>]
	BLR	<reg>

... and thus I think we still want membarrier(SYNC_CORE) so that people can do this, even if there are other means to achieve the same functionality.

Thanks,
Mark.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 53 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 27 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 11 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).

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If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers this. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Looking at that, sys_cacheflush() meets this. The manual details a series of cache maintenance calls in "step 1" that the modifying thread must issue - this is exactly what sys_cacheflush() does. The same is true for ARMv6, except the "ISB" terminology is replaced by a "PrefetchFlush" terminology. (I checked DDI0100I).

"step 2" requires an ISB on the "other CPU" prior to executing that code. As I understand it, in ARMv7, userspace can issue an ISB itself.

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For ARMv6K, it doesn't have ISB, but instead has a CP15 instruction for this that isn't availble to userspace. This is where we come to the situation about ARM 11MPCore, and whether we continue to support it or not.

So, I think we're completely fine with ARMv7 under 32-bit ARM kernels as userspace has everything that's required. ARMv6K is a different matter as we've already identified for several reasons.

Sure, and I agree we should not change cacheflush().

The point of membarrier(SYNC_CORE) is that you can move the cost of that ISB out of the fast-path in the executing thread(s) and into the slow-path on the thread which generated the code.

So e.g. rather than an executing thread always having to do:

	LDR	<reg>, [<funcptr>]
	ISB	// in case funcptr was just updated
	BLR	<reg>

... you have the thread generating the code use membarrier(SYNC_CORE) prior to plublishing the funcptr, and the fast-path on all the executing threads can be:

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	LDR	<reg> [<funcptr>]
	BLR	<reg>

... and thus I think we still want membarrier(SYNC_CORE) so that people can do this, even if there are other means to achieve the same functionality.

I had the impression that sys_cacheflush() did that. Am I wrong?

In any event, I’m even more convinced that no new SYNC_CORE arches should be added. We need a new API that just does the right thing.

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#66 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 56 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 53 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 27 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 11 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).

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If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers this. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Looking at that, sys_cacheflush() meets this. The manual details a series of cache maintenance calls in "step 1" that the modifying thread must issue - this is exactly what sys_cacheflush() does. The same is true for ARMv6, except the "ISB" terminology is replaced by a "PrefetchFlush" terminology. (I checked DDI0100I).

"step 2" requires an ISB on the "other CPU" prior to executing that code. As I understand it, in ARMv7, userspace can issue an ISB itself.

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For ARMv6K, it doesn't have ISB, but instead has a CP15 instruction for this that isn't availble to userspace. This is where we come to the situation about ARM 11MPCore, and whether we continue to support it or not.

So, I think we're completely fine with ARMv7 under 32-bit ARM kernels as userspace has everything that's required. ARMv6K is a different matter as we've already identified for several reasons.

Sure, and I agree we should not change cacheflush().

The point of membarrier(SYNC_CORE) is that you can move the cost of that ISB out of the fast-path in the executing thread(s) and into the slow-path on the thread which generated the code.

So e.g. rather than an executing thread always having to do:

	LDR	<reg>, [<funcptr>]
	ISB	// in case funcptr was just updated
	BLR	<reg>

... you have the thread generating the code use membarrier(SYNC_CORE) prior to plublishing the funcptr, and the fast-path on all the executing threads can be:

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	LDR	<reg> [<funcptr>]
	BLR	<reg>

... and thus I think we still want membarrier(SYNC_CORE) so that people can do this, even if there are other means to achieve the same functionality.

I had the impression that sys_cacheflush() did that. Am I wrong?

Currently sys_cacheflush() doesn't do this, and IIUC it has never done remote context synchronization even for architectures that need that (e.g. x86 requiring a serializing instruction).

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In any event, I’m even more convinced that no new SYNC_CORE arches should be added. We need a new API that just does the right thing.

My intuition is the other way around, and that this is a gnereally useful thing for architectures that require context synchronization.

It's not clear to me what "the right thing" would mean specifically, and on architectures with userspace cache maintenance JITs can usually do the most optimal maintenance, and only need help for the context synchronization.

Thanks,
Mark.

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#67 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 7 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 2 lines · Andy Lutomirski

In any event, I’m even more convinced that no new SYNC_CORE arches should be added. We need a new API that just does the right thing.

My intuition is the other way around, and that this is a gnereally useful thing for architectures that require context synchronization.

Except that you can't use it in a generic way. You have to know the specific rules for your arch.

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It's not clear to me what "the right thing" would mean specifically, and on architectures with userspace cache maintenance JITs can usually do the most optimal maintenance, and only need help for the context synchronization.

This I simply don't believe -- I doubt that any sane architecture really works like this. I wrote an email about it to Intel that apparently generated internal discussion but no results. Consider:

mmap(some shared library, some previously unmapped address);

this does no heavyweight synchronization, at least on x86. There is no "serializing" instruction in the fast path, and it *works* despite anything the SDM may or may not say.

We can and, IMO, should develop a sane way for user programs to install instructions into VMAs, for security-conscious software to verify them (by splitting the read and write sides?), and for their consumers to execute them, without knowing any arch details. And I think this can be done with no IPIs except for possible TLB flushing when needed, at least on most architectures. It would require a nontrivial amount of design work, and it would not resemble sys_cacheflush() or SYNC_CORE.

--Andy

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#68 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 5 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 1 line · Mark Rutland

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 06:41:41AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

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In any event, I’m even more convinced that no new SYNC_CORE arches should be added. We need a new API that just does the right thing.

My intuition is the other way around, and that this is a gnereally useful thing for architectures that require context synchronization.

Except that you can't use it in a generic way. You have to know the specific rules for your arch.

That's generally true for modifying instruction streams though? The man page for cacheflush(2) calls out that it is not portable.

I think what's necessary here is some mandatory per-arch documentation?

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It's not clear to me what "the right thing" would mean specifically, and on architectures with userspace cache maintenance JITs can usually do the most optimal maintenance, and only need help for the context synchronization.

This I simply don't believe -- I doubt that any sane architecture really works like this. I wrote an email about it to Intel that apparently generated internal discussion but no results. Consider:

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mmap(some shared library, some previously unmapped address);

this does no heavyweight synchronization, at least on x86. There is no "serializing" instruction in the fast path, and it *works* despite anything the SDM may or may not say.

Sure, and I called this case out specifically when I said:

|   * Where we can guarantee that a CPU cannot possibly have an
|     instruction in-flight (e.g. due to a lack of a mapping to fetch
|     instructions from), nothing is necessary. This is what we rely on
|     when faulting in code pages. In these cases, the CPU is liable to
|     take fault on the missing translation anyway.

.. what really matters is whether the CPU had the oppoprtunity to fetch something stale; the context synchronization is necessary to discard that.

Bear in mind that in many cases where this could occur in theory, we don't hit in practice because CPUs don't happen to predict/speculate as aggressively as they are permitted to. On arm/arm64 it's obvious that this is a problem because the documentation clearly defines the boundaries of what a CPU is permitted to do, whereas on other architectures docuentation is not necessarily as clear whether this is permited or whether the architecture mandates additional guarantees.

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We can and, IMO, should develop a sane way for user programs to install instructions into VMAs, for security-conscious software to verify them (by splitting the read and write sides?), and for their consumers to execute them, without knowing any arch details. And I think this can be done with no IPIs except for possible TLB flushing when needed, at least on most architectures. It would require a nontrivial amount of design work, and it would not resemble sys_cacheflush() or SYNC_CORE.

I'm not opposed to adding new interfaces for stuff like that, but I don't think that membarrier(SYNC_CORE) or cacheflush(2) are necessarily wrong as-is.

Thanks,
Mark.

maintainer
#69 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 12 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 5 lines · Mark Rutland

It's not clear to me what "the right thing" would mean specifically, and on architectures with userspace cache maintenance JITs can usually do the most optimal maintenance, and only need help for the context synchronization.

This I simply don't believe -- I doubt that any sane architecture really works like this. I wrote an email about it to Intel that apparently generated internal discussion but no results. Consider:

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mmap(some shared library, some previously unmapped address);

this does no heavyweight synchronization, at least on x86. There is no "serializing" instruction in the fast path, and it *works* despite anything the SDM may or may not say.

I'm confused; why do you think that is relevant?

The only way to get into a memory address space is CR3 write, which is serializing and will flush everything. Since there wasn't anything mapped, nothing could be 'cached' from that location.

So that has to work...

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We can and, IMO, should develop a sane way for user programs to install instructions into VMAs, for security-conscious software to verify them (by splitting the read and write sides?), and for their consumers to execute them, without knowing any arch details. And I think this can be done with no IPIs except for possible TLB flushing when needed, at least on most architectures. It would require a nontrivial amount of design work, and it would not resemble sys_cacheflush() or SYNC_CORE.

The interesting use-case is where we modify code that is under active execution in a multi-threaded process; where CPU0 runs code and doesn't make any syscalls at all, while CPU1 modifies code that is visible to CPU0.

In that case CPU0 can have various internal state still reflecting the old instructions that no longer exist in memory -- presumably.

We also need to inject at least a full memory barrier and pipeline flush, to create a proper before and after modified. To reason about when the *other* threads will be able to observe the new code.

Now, the SDM documents that prefetch and trace buffers are not flushed on i$ invalidate (actual implementations might of course differ) and doing this requires the SERIALIZE instruction or one of the many instructions that implies this, one of which is IRET.

For the cross-modifying case, I really don't see how you can not send an IPI and expect behavour one can reason about, irrespective of any non-coherent behaviour.

Now, the SDM documents non-coherent behaviour and requires SERIALIZE, while at the same time any IPI already implies IRET which implies SERIALIZE -- except some Luto guy was having plans to optimize the IRET paths so we couldn't rely on that.

maintainer
#70 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

Quoted 19 lines · Peter Zijlstra
Quoted 12 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 5 lines · Mark Rutland

It's not clear to me what "the right thing" would mean specifically, and on architectures with userspace cache maintenance JITs can usually do the most optimal maintenance, and only need help for the context synchronization.

This I simply don't believe -- I doubt that any sane architecture really works like this. I wrote an email about it to Intel that apparently generated internal discussion but no results. Consider:

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mmap(some shared library, some previously unmapped address);

this does no heavyweight synchronization, at least on x86. There is no "serializing" instruction in the fast path, and it *works* despite anything the SDM may or may not say.

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I'm confused; why do you think that is relevant?

The only way to get into a memory address space is CR3 write, which is serializing and will flush everything. Since there wasn't anything mapped, nothing could be 'cached' from that location.

So that has to work...

Ooh, you mean mmap where there was something mmap'ed before. Not virgin space so to say.

But in that case, the unmap() would've caused a TLB invalidate, which on x86 is IPIs, which is IRET.

Other architectures include I/D cache flushes in their TLB invalidations -- but as elsewhere in the thread, that might not be suffient on its own.

But yes, I think TLBI has to imply flushing micro-arch instruction related buffers for any of that to work.

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Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

In reply to Mark Rutland
Quoted 73 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 56 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 53 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 27 lines · Russell King (Oracle)
Quoted 11 lines · Mark Rutland
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).

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If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers this. That manual can be found at:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Looking at that, sys_cacheflush() meets this. The manual details a series of cache maintenance calls in "step 1" that the modifying thread must issue - this is exactly what sys_cacheflush() does. The same is true for ARMv6, except the "ISB" terminology is replaced by a "PrefetchFlush" terminology. (I checked DDI0100I).

"step 2" requires an ISB on the "other CPU" prior to executing that code. As I understand it, in ARMv7, userspace can issue an ISB itself.

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For ARMv6K, it doesn't have ISB, but instead has a CP15 instruction for this that isn't availble to userspace. This is where we come to the situation about ARM 11MPCore, and whether we continue to support it or not.

So, I think we're completely fine with ARMv7 under 32-bit ARM kernels as userspace has everything that's required. ARMv6K is a different matter as we've already identified for several reasons.

Sure, and I agree we should not change cacheflush().

The point of membarrier(SYNC_CORE) is that you can move the cost of that ISB out of the fast-path in the executing thread(s) and into the slow-path on the thread which generated the code.

So e.g. rather than an executing thread always having to do:

	LDR	<reg>, [<funcptr>]
	ISB	// in case funcptr was just updated
	BLR	<reg>

... you have the thread generating the code use membarrier(SYNC_CORE) prior to plublishing the funcptr, and the fast-path on all the executing threads can be:

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	LDR	<reg> [<funcptr>]
	BLR	<reg>

... and thus I think we still want membarrier(SYNC_CORE) so that people can do this, even if there are other means to achieve the same functionality.

I had the impression that sys_cacheflush() did that. Am I wrong?

Currently sys_cacheflush() doesn't do this, and IIUC it has never done remote context synchronization even for architectures that need that (e.g. x86 requiring a serializing instruction).

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In any event, I’m even more convinced that no new SYNC_CORE arches should be added. We need a new API that just does the right thing.

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My intuition is the other way around, and that this is a gnereally useful thing for architectures that require context synchronization.

It's not clear to me what "the right thing" would mean specifically, and on architectures with userspace cache maintenance JITs can usually do the most optimal maintenance, and only need help for the context synchronization.

If I can attempt to summarize the current situation for ARMv7:

- In addition to the cache flushing on the core doing the code update, the architecture requires every core to perform a context synchronizing instruction before executing the updated code.

- sys_cacheflush() don't do this core sync on every core. It also takes a single address range as parameter.

- ARM, ARM64, powerpc, powerpc64, x86, x86-64 all currently handle the context synchronization requirement for updating user-space code on SMP with sys_membarrier SYNC_CORE. It's not, however, meant to replace explicit cache flushing operations if those are needed.

So removing membarrier SYNC_CORE from ARM would be a step backward here. On ARMv7, the SYNC_CORE is needed _in addition_ to sys_cacheflush.

Adding a sync-core operation at the end of sys_cacheflush would be inefficient for common GC use-cases where a rather large set of address ranges are invalidated in one go: for this, we either want the GC to:

- Invoke sys_cacheflush for each targeted range, and then issue a single sys_membarrier SYNC_CORE, or

- Implement a new "sys_cacheflush_iov" which takes an iovec input. There I see that it could indeed invalidate all relevant cache lines *and* issue the SYNC_CORE at the end.

But shoehorning the SYNC_CORE in the pre-existing sys_cacheflush after the fact seems like a bad idea.

Thanks,

Mathieu

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EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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#72 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 18 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 16 lines · Mark Rutland

Sure, and I agree we should not change cacheflush().

The point of membarrier(SYNC_CORE) is that you can move the cost of that ISB out of the fast-path in the executing thread(s) and into the slow-path on the thread which generated the code.

So e.g. rather than an executing thread always having to do:

	LDR	<reg>, [<funcptr>]
	ISB	// in case funcptr was just updated
	BLR	<reg>

... you have the thread generating the code use membarrier(SYNC_CORE) prior to plublishing the funcptr, and the fast-path on all the executing threads can be:

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	LDR	<reg> [<funcptr>]
	BLR	<reg>

... and thus I think we still want membarrier(SYNC_CORE) so that people can do this, even if there are other means to achieve the same functionality.

I had the impression that sys_cacheflush() did that. Am I wrong?

Yes, sys_cacheflush() only does what it says on the tin (and only correctly for hardware broadcast -- everything except 11mpcore).

It only invalidates the caches, but not the per CPU derived state like prefetch buffers and micro-op buffers, and certainly not instructions already in flight.

So anything OoO needs at the very least a complete pipeline stall injected, but probably something stronger to make it flush the buffers.

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In any event, I’m even more convinced that no new SYNC_CORE arches should be added. We need a new API that just does the right thing.

I really don't understand why you hate the thing so much; SYNC_CORE is a means of injecting whatever instruction is required to flush all uarch state related to instructions on all theads (not all CPUs) of a process as efficient as possible.

The alternative is sending signals to all threads (including the non-running ones) which is known to scale very poorly indeed, or, as Mark suggests above, have very expensive instructions unconditinoally in the instruction stream, which is also undesired.

author maintainer
#73 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 3 lines · Andy Lutomirski

On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call cacheflush(2). This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm. Remove it.

After all the discussion, I'm dropping this patch.

author maintainer
#74 lore raw

PATCH 8/8 membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

This is misleading. The incantation needed to modify code from one CPU and execute it on another CPU is highly architecture dependent. On x86, according to the SDM, one must modify the code, issue SFENCE if the modification was WC or nontemporal, and then issue a "serializing instruction" on the CPU that will execute the code. membarrier() can do the latter.

On arm64 and powerpc, one must flush the icache and then flush the pipeline on the target CPU, although the CPU manuals don't necessarily use this language.

So let's drop any pretense that we can have a generic way to define or implement membarrier's SYNC_CORE operation and instead require all architectures to define the helper and supply their own documentation as to how to use it. This means x86, arm64, and powerpc for now. Let's also rename the function from sync_core_before_usermode() to membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() because the precise flushing details may very well be specific to membarrier, and even the concept of "sync_core" in the kernel is mostly an x86-ism.

(It may well be the case that, on real x86 processors, synchronizing the
icache (which requires no action at all) and "flushing the pipeline" is sufficient, but trying to use this language would be confusing at best. LFENCE does something awfully like "flushing the pipeline", but the SDM does not permit LFENCE as an alternative to a "serializing instruction" for this purpose.)

Cc Michael Ellerman <[email protected]>
Cc Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
Cc Paul Mackerras <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Fixes 70216e18e519 ("membarrier: Provide core serializing command, *_SYNC_CORE")
---
 .../membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt     | 68 ++++++-------------
 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h            | 19 ++++++
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h          | 14 ++++
 arch/x86/Kconfig                              |  1 -
 arch/x86/include/asm/sync_core.h              |  7 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c                 |  2 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c                |  2 +-
 arch/x86/mm/tlb.c                             |  3 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grufault.c               |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/gruhandles.c             |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grukservices.c           |  2 +-
 include/linux/sched/mm.h                      |  1 -
 include/linux/sync_core.h                     | 21 ------
 init/Kconfig                                  |  3 -
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c                     | 15 ++--
 15 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 87 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h
 create mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h
 delete mode 100644 include/linux/sync_core.h
Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +21 -47
index 883d33b265d6..41c9ebcb275f 100644
@@ -5,51 +5,25 @@
 #
 # Architecture requirements
 #
-# * arm/arm64/powerpc
 #
-# Rely on implicit context synchronization as a result of exception return
-# when returning from IPI handler, and when returning to user-space.
-#
-# * x86
-#
-# x86-32 uses IRET as return from interrupt, which takes care of the IPI.
-# However, it uses both IRET and SYSEXIT to go back to user-space. The IRET
-# instruction is core serializing, but not SYSEXIT.
-#
-# x86-64 uses IRET as return from interrupt, which takes care of the IPI.
-# However, it can return to user-space through either SYSRETL (compat code),
-# SYSRETQ, or IRET.
-#
-# Given that neither SYSRET{L,Q}, nor SYSEXIT, are core serializing, we rely
-# instead on write_cr3() performed by switch_mm() to provide core serialization
-# after changing the current mm, and deal with the special case of kthread ->
-# uthread (temporarily keeping current mm into active_mm) by issuing a
-# sync_core_before_usermode() in that specific case.
-#
-    -----------------------
-    |         arch |status|
-    -----------------------
-    |       alpha: | TODO |
-    |         arc: | TODO |
-    |         arm: |  ok  |
-    |       arm64: |  ok  |
-    |        csky: | TODO |
-    |       h8300: | TODO |
-    |     hexagon: | TODO |
-    |        ia64: | TODO |
-    |        m68k: | TODO |
-    |  microblaze: | TODO |
-    |        mips: | TODO |
-    |       nds32: | TODO |
-    |       nios2: | TODO |
-    |    openrisc: | TODO |
-    |      parisc: | TODO |
-    |     powerpc: |  ok  |
-    |       riscv: | TODO |
-    |        s390: | TODO |
-    |          sh: | TODO |
-    |       sparc: | TODO |
-    |          um: | TODO |
-    |         x86: |  ok  |
-    |      xtensa: | TODO |
-    -----------------------
+# An architecture that wants to support
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE needs to define precisely what it
+# is supposed to do and implement membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() to
+# make it do that.  Then it can select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE via
+# Kconfig.Unfortunately, MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE is not a
+# fantastic API and may not make sense on all architectures.  Once an
+# architecture meets these requirements,
+#
+# On x86, a program can safely modify code, issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE, and then execute that code, via
+# the modified address or an alias, from any thread in the calling process.
+#
+# On arm64, a program can modify code, flush the icache as needed, and issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE to force a "context synchronizing
+# event", aka pipeline flush on all CPUs that might run the calling process.
+# Then the program can execute the modified code as long as it is executed
+# from an address consistent with the icache flush and the CPU's cache type.
+#
+# On powerpc, a program can use MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE
+# similarly to arm64.  It would be nice if the powerpc maintainers could
+# add a more clear explanantion.
arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +19 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..74996bf533bb
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
+#ifndef _ASM_ARM64_SYNC_CORE_H
+#define _ASM_ARM64_SYNC_CORE_H
+
+#include <asm/barrier.h>
+
+/*
+ * On arm64, anyone trying to use membarrier() to handle JIT code is
+ * required to first flush the icache and then do SYNC_CORE.  All that's
+ * needed after the icache flush is to execute a "context synchronization
+ * event".  Right now, ERET does this, and we are guaranteed to ERET before
+ * any user code runs.  If Linux ever programs the CPU to make ERET stop
+ * being a context synchronizing event, then this will need to be adjusted.
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_ARM64_SYNC_CORE_H */
arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +14 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..589fdb34beab
@@ -0,0 +1,14 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
+#ifndef _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H
+#define _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H
+
+#include <asm/barrier.h>
+
+/*
+ * XXX: can a powerpc person put an appropriate comment here?
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H */
arch/x86/Kconfig +0 -1
index 0045e1b44190..f010897a1e8a 100644
@@ -89,7 +89,6 @@ config X86
 	select ARCH_HAS_SET_DIRECT_MAP
 	select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
 	select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_MODULE_RWX
-	select ARCH_HAS_SYNC_CORE_BEFORE_USERMODE
 	select ARCH_HAS_SYSCALL_WRAPPER
 	select ARCH_HAS_UBSAN_SANITIZE_ALL
 	select ARCH_HAS_DEBUG_WX
arch/x86/include/asm/sync_core.h +3 -4
index ab7382f92aff..c665b453969a 100644
@@ -89,11 +89,10 @@ static inline void sync_core(void)
 }
 
 /*
- * Ensure that a core serializing instruction is issued before returning
- * to user-mode. x86 implements return to user-space through sysexit,
- * sysrel, and sysretq, which are not core serializing.
+ * Ensure that the CPU notices any instruction changes before the next time
+ * it returns to usermode.
  */
-static inline void sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
 {
 	/* With PTI, we unconditionally serialize before running user code. */
 	if (static_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_PTI))
arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c +1 -1
index 6974b5174495..52ead5f4fcdc 100644
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
 #include <linux/kprobes.h>
 #include <linux/mmu_context.h>
 #include <linux/bsearch.h>
-#include <linux/sync_core.h>
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
 #include <asm/text-patching.h>
 #include <asm/alternative.h>
 #include <asm/sections.h>
arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c +1 -1
index bf7fe87a7e88..4a577980d4d1 100644
@@ -41,12 +41,12 @@
 #include <linux/irq_work.h>
 #include <linux/export.h>
 #include <linux/set_memory.h>
-#include <linux/sync_core.h>
 #include <linux/task_work.h>
 #include <linux/hardirq.h>
 
 #include <asm/intel-family.h>
 #include <asm/processor.h>
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
 #include <asm/traps.h>
 #include <asm/tlbflush.h>
 #include <asm/mce.h>
arch/x86/mm/tlb.c +2 -1
index 59488d663e68..35b622fd2ed1 100644
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@
 #include <linux/sched/mm.h>
 
 #include <asm/tlbflush.h>
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
 #include <asm/mmu_context.h>
 #include <asm/nospec-branch.h>
 #include <asm/cache.h>
@@ -538,7 +539,7 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
 			 */
 			if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
 				     MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE))
-				sync_core_before_usermode();
+				membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode();
 #endif
 
 			return;
drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grufault.c +1 -1
index 723825524ea0..48fd5b101de1 100644
@@ -20,8 +20,8 @@
 #include <linux/io.h>
 #include <linux/uaccess.h>
 #include <linux/security.h>
-#include <linux/sync_core.h>
 #include <linux/prefetch.h>
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
 #include "gru.h"
 #include "grutables.h"
 #include "grulib.h"
drivers/misc/sgi-gru/gruhandles.c +1 -1
index 1d75d5e540bc..c8cba1c1b00f 100644
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
 #define GRU_OPERATION_TIMEOUT	(((cycles_t) local_cpu_data->itc_freq)*10)
 #define CLKS2NSEC(c)		((c) *1000000000 / local_cpu_data->itc_freq)
 #else
-#include <linux/sync_core.h>
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
 #include <asm/tsc.h>
 #define GRU_OPERATION_TIMEOUT	((cycles_t) tsc_khz*10*1000)
 #define CLKS2NSEC(c)		((c) * 1000000 / tsc_khz)
drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grukservices.c +1 -1
index 0ea923fe6371..ce03ff3f7c3a 100644
@@ -16,10 +16,10 @@
 #include <linux/miscdevice.h>
 #include <linux/proc_fs.h>
 #include <linux/interrupt.h>
-#include <linux/sync_core.h>
 #include <linux/uaccess.h>
 #include <linux/delay.h>
 #include <linux/export.h>
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
 #include <asm/io_apic.h>
 #include "gru.h"
 #include "grulib.h"
include/linux/sched/mm.h +0 -1
index c6eebbafadb0..845db11190cd 100644
@@ -7,7 +7,6 @@
 #include <linux/sched.h>
 #include <linux/mm_types.h>
 #include <linux/gfp.h>
-#include <linux/sync_core.h>
 
 /*
  * Routines for handling mm_structs
include/linux/sync_core.h deleted +0 -21
deleted file mode 100644
index 013da4b8b327..000000000000
@@ -1,21 +0,0 @@
-/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
-#ifndef _LINUX_SYNC_CORE_H
-#define _LINUX_SYNC_CORE_H
-
-#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_SYNC_CORE_BEFORE_USERMODE
-#include <asm/sync_core.h>
-#else
-/*
- * This is a dummy sync_core_before_usermode() implementation that can be used
- * on all architectures which return to user-space through core serializing
- * instructions.
- * If your architecture returns to user-space through non-core-serializing
- * instructions, you need to write your own functions.
- */
-static inline void sync_core_before_usermode(void)
-{
-}
-#endif
-
-#endif /* _LINUX_SYNC_CORE_H */
-
init/Kconfig +0 -3
index 1ea12c64e4c9..e5d552b0823e 100644
@@ -2377,9 +2377,6 @@ source "kernel/Kconfig.locks"
 config ARCH_HAS_NON_OVERLAPPING_ADDRESS_SPACE
 	bool
 
-config ARCH_HAS_SYNC_CORE_BEFORE_USERMODE
-	bool
-
 # It may be useful for an architecture to override the definitions of the
 # SYSCALL_DEFINE() and __SYSCALL_DEFINEx() macros in <linux/syscalls.h>
 # and the COMPAT_ variants in <linux/compat.h>, in particular to use a
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +11 -4
index c32c32a2441e..f72a6ab3fac2 100644
@@ -5,6 +5,9 @@
  * membarrier system call
  */
 #include "sched.h"
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
+#endif
 
 /*
  * The basic principle behind the regular memory barrier mode of membarrier()
@@ -221,6 +224,7 @@ static void ipi_mb(void *info)
 	smp_mb();	/* IPIs should be serializing but paranoid. */
 }
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)
 {
 	/*
@@ -230,13 +234,14 @@ static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)
 	 * the big comment at the top of this file.
 	 *
 	 * A sync_core() would provide this guarantee, but
-	 * sync_core_before_usermode() might end up being deferred until
-	 * after membarrier()'s smp_mb().
+	 * membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() might end up being deferred
+	 * until after membarrier()'s smp_mb().
 	 */
 	smp_mb();	/* IPIs should be serializing but paranoid. */
 
-	sync_core_before_usermode();
+	membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode();
 }
+#endif
 
 static void ipi_rseq(void *info)
 {
@@ -368,12 +373,14 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id)
 	smp_call_func_t ipi_func = ipi_mb;
 
 	if (flags == MEMBARRIER_FLAG_SYNC_CORE) {
-		if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
+#ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 			return -EINVAL;
+#else
 		if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
 		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
 			return -EPERM;
 		ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
+#endif
 	} else if (flags == MEMBARRIER_FLAG_RSEQ) {
 		if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RSEQ))
 			return -EINVAL;
Signature · 1 line
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reviewer Acked-by on v1 8/8
#75 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 180 lines

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

This is misleading. The incantation needed to modify code from one CPU and execute it on another CPU is highly architecture dependent. On x86, according to the SDM, one must modify the code, issue SFENCE if the modification was WC or nontemporal, and then issue a "serializing instruction" on the CPU that will execute the code. membarrier() can do the latter.

On arm64 and powerpc, one must flush the icache and then flush the pipeline on the target CPU, although the CPU manuals don't necessarily use this language.

So let's drop any pretense that we can have a generic way to define or implement membarrier's SYNC_CORE operation and instead require all architectures to define the helper and supply their own documentation as to how to use it. This means x86, arm64, and powerpc for now. Let's also rename the function from sync_core_before_usermode() to membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() because the precise flushing details may very well be specific to membarrier, and even the concept of "sync_core" in the kernel is mostly an x86-ism.

(It may well be the case that, on real x86 processors, synchronizing the
icache (which requires no action at all) and "flushing the pipeline" is sufficient, but trying to use this language would be confusing at best. LFENCE does something awfully like "flushing the pipeline", but the SDM does not permit LFENCE as an alternative to a "serializing instruction" for this purpose.)

Cc Michael Ellerman <[email protected]>
Cc Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
Cc Paul Mackerras <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Fixes 70216e18e519 ("membarrier: Provide core serializing command, *_SYNC_CORE")
---
 .../membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt     | 68 ++++++-------------
 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h            | 19 ++++++
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h          | 14 ++++
 arch/x86/Kconfig                              |  1 -
 arch/x86/include/asm/sync_core.h              |  7 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c                 |  2 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c                |  2 +-
 arch/x86/mm/tlb.c                             |  3 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grufault.c               |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/gruhandles.c             |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grukservices.c           |  2 +-
 include/linux/sched/mm.h                      |  1 -
 include/linux/sync_core.h                     | 21 ------
 init/Kconfig                                  |  3 -
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c                     | 15 ++--
 15 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 87 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h
 create mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h
 delete mode 100644 include/linux/sync_core.h
Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +21 -47
index 883d33b265d6..41c9ebcb275f 100644
@@ -5,51 +5,25 @@
 #
 # Architecture requirements
 #
-# * arm/arm64/powerpc
 #
-# Rely on implicit context synchronization as a result of exception return
-# when returning from IPI handler, and when returning to user-space.
-#
-# * x86
-#
-# x86-32 uses IRET as return from interrupt, which takes care of the IPI.
-# However, it uses both IRET and SYSEXIT to go back to user-space. The IRET
-# instruction is core serializing, but not SYSEXIT.
-#
-# x86-64 uses IRET as return from interrupt, which takes care of the IPI.
-# However, it can return to user-space through either SYSRETL (compat code),
-# SYSRETQ, or IRET.
-#
-# Given that neither SYSRET{L,Q}, nor SYSEXIT, are core serializing, we rely
-# instead on write_cr3() performed by switch_mm() to provide core serialization
-# after changing the current mm, and deal with the special case of kthread ->
-# uthread (temporarily keeping current mm into active_mm) by issuing a
-# sync_core_before_usermode() in that specific case.
-#
-    -----------------------
-    |         arch |status|
-    -----------------------
-    |       alpha: | TODO |
-    |         arc: | TODO |
-    |         arm: |  ok  |
-    |       arm64: |  ok  |
-    |        csky: | TODO |
-    |       h8300: | TODO |
-    |     hexagon: | TODO |
-    |        ia64: | TODO |
-    |        m68k: | TODO |
-    |  microblaze: | TODO |
-    |        mips: | TODO |
-    |       nds32: | TODO |
-    |       nios2: | TODO |
-    |    openrisc: | TODO |
-    |      parisc: | TODO |
-    |     powerpc: |  ok  |
-    |       riscv: | TODO |
-    |        s390: | TODO |
-    |          sh: | TODO |
-    |       sparc: | TODO |
-    |          um: | TODO |
-    |         x86: |  ok  |
-    |      xtensa: | TODO |
-    -----------------------
+# An architecture that wants to support
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE needs to define precisely what it
+# is supposed to do and implement membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() to
+# make it do that.  Then it can select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE via
+# Kconfig.Unfortunately, MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE is not a
+# fantastic API and may not make sense on all architectures.  Once an
+# architecture meets these requirements,
+#
+# On x86, a program can safely modify code, issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE, and then execute that code, via
+# the modified address or an alias, from any thread in the calling process.
+#
+# On arm64, a program can modify code, flush the icache as needed, and issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE to force a "context synchronizing
+# event", aka pipeline flush on all CPUs that might run the calling process.
+# Then the program can execute the modified code as long as it is executed
+# from an address consistent with the icache flush and the CPU's cache type.
+#
+# On powerpc, a program can use MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE
+# similarly to arm64.  It would be nice if the powerpc maintainers could
+# add a more clear explanantion.
arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +19 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..74996bf533bb
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
+#ifndef _ASM_ARM64_SYNC_CORE_H
+#define _ASM_ARM64_SYNC_CORE_H
+
+#include <asm/barrier.h>
+
+/*
+ * On arm64, anyone trying to use membarrier() to handle JIT code is
+ * required to first flush the icache and then do SYNC_CORE.  All that's
+ * needed after the icache flush is to execute a "context synchronization
+ * event".  Right now, ERET does this, and we are guaranteed to ERET before
+ * any user code runs.  If Linux ever programs the CPU to make ERET stop
+ * being a context synchronizing event, then this will need to be adjusted.
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_ARM64_SYNC_CORE_H */
arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +4 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..589fdb34beab
@@ -0,0 +1,14 @@
+/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
+#ifndef _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H
+#define _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H
+

arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h line 14

Quoted 10 lines
arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +10 -0
+#include <asm/barrier.h>
+
+/*
+ * XXX: can a powerpc person put an appropriate comment here?
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H */

powerpc's can just go in asm/membarrier.h

/*
* The RFI family of instructions are context synchronising, and
* that is how we return to userspace, so nothing is required here. */

kernel/sched/membarrier.c line 10

Quoted 11 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +3 -0
index c32c32a2441e..f72a6ab3fac2 100644
@@ -5,6 +5,9 @@
  * membarrier system call
  */
 #include "sched.h"
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
+#endif

Can you

#else
static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void) {
/* this gets constant folded out */
}
#endif

And avoid adding the ifdefs in the following code?

Otherwise I think this is good.

Thanks,
Nick

Quoted 49 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +8 -4
 /*
  * The basic principle behind the regular memory barrier mode of membarrier()
@@ -221,6 +224,7 @@ static void ipi_mb(void *info)
 	smp_mb();	/* IPIs should be serializing but paranoid. */
 }
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)
 {
 	/*
@@ -230,13 +234,14 @@ static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)
 	 * the big comment at the top of this file.
 	 *
 	 * A sync_core() would provide this guarantee, but
-	 * sync_core_before_usermode() might end up being deferred until
-	 * after membarrier()'s smp_mb().
+	 * membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() might end up being deferred
+	 * until after membarrier()'s smp_mb().
 	 */
 	smp_mb();	/* IPIs should be serializing but paranoid. */
 
-	sync_core_before_usermode();
+	membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode();
 }
+#endif
 
 static void ipi_rseq(void *info)
 {
@@ -368,12 +373,14 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id)
 	smp_call_func_t ipi_func = ipi_mb;
 
 	if (flags == MEMBARRIER_FLAG_SYNC_CORE) {
-		if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
+#ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 			return -EINVAL;
+#else
 		if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
 		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
 			return -EPERM;
 		ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
+#endif
 	} else if (flags == MEMBARRIER_FLAG_RSEQ) {
 		if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RSEQ))
 			return -EINVAL;
Signature · 1 line
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author maintainer
#76 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 6 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 4 lines

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

Quoted 10 lines

arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h line 14

Quoted 8 lines
arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +8 -0
+/*
+ * XXX: can a powerpc person put an appropriate comment here?
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H */

powerpc's can just go in asm/membarrier.h

$ ls arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h
ls: cannot access 'arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h': No such file
or directory
Quoted 5 lines

/*
* The RFI family of instructions are context synchronising, and
* that is how we return to userspace, so nothing is required here. */

Thanks!

author maintainer
#77 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 18 lines · Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 6 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 4 lines

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

Quoted 10 lines

arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h line 14

Quoted 8 lines
arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +8 -0
+/*
+ * XXX: can a powerpc person put an appropriate comment here?
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H */

powerpc's can just go in asm/membarrier.h

Quoted 3 lines
$ ls arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h
ls: cannot access 'arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h': No such file
or directory

Which is because I deleted it. Duh. I'll clean this up.

Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 7 lines

/*
* The RFI family of instructions are context synchronising, and
* that is how we return to userspace, so nothing is required here. */

Thanks!

#78 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

Le 16/06/2021 à 20:52, Andy Lutomirski a écrit :

Quoted 18 lines · Nicholas Piggin
Quoted 6 lines

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 16, 2021 1:21 pm:

Quoted 4 lines

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

Quoted 10 lines

arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h line 14

Quoted 8 lines
arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h new file +8 -0
+/*
+ * XXX: can a powerpc person put an appropriate comment here?
+ */
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+}
+
+#endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_SYNC_CORE_H */

powerpc's can just go in asm/membarrier.h

Quoted 3 lines
$ ls arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h
ls: cannot access 'arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h': No such file
or directory

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/powerpc/include/asm/membarrier.h

Was added by https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/3ccfebedd8cf54e291c809c838d8ad5cc00f5688

Quoted 10 lines
Quoted 7 lines

/*
* The RFI family of instructions are context synchronising, and
* that is how we return to userspace, so nothing is required here. */

Thanks!

maintainer Acked-by on v1 8/8
#79 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 59 lines · Andy Lutomirski

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

This is misleading. The incantation needed to modify code from one CPU and execute it on another CPU is highly architecture dependent. On x86, according to the SDM, one must modify the code, issue SFENCE if the modification was WC or nontemporal, and then issue a "serializing instruction" on the CPU that will execute the code. membarrier() can do the latter.

On arm64 and powerpc, one must flush the icache and then flush the pipeline on the target CPU, although the CPU manuals don't necessarily use this language.

So let's drop any pretense that we can have a generic way to define or implement membarrier's SYNC_CORE operation and instead require all architectures to define the helper and supply their own documentation as to how to use it. This means x86, arm64, and powerpc for now. Let's also rename the function from sync_core_before_usermode() to membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() because the precise flushing details may very well be specific to membarrier, and even the concept of "sync_core" in the kernel is mostly an x86-ism.

(It may well be the case that, on real x86 processors, synchronizing the
icache (which requires no action at all) and "flushing the pipeline" is sufficient, but trying to use this language would be confusing at best. LFENCE does something awfully like "flushing the pipeline", but the SDM does not permit LFENCE as an alternative to a "serializing instruction" for this purpose.)

Cc Michael Ellerman <[email protected]>
Cc Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
Cc Paul Mackerras <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Catalin Marinas <[email protected]>
Cc Will Deacon <[email protected]>
Cc Mathieu Desnoyers <[email protected]>
Cc Nicholas Piggin <[email protected]>
Cc Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Fixes 70216e18e519 ("membarrier: Provide core serializing command, *_SYNC_CORE")
---
 .../membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt     | 68 ++++++-------------
 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h            | 19 ++++++
 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h          | 14 ++++
 arch/x86/Kconfig                              |  1 -
 arch/x86/include/asm/sync_core.h              |  7 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/alternative.c                 |  2 +-
 arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mce/core.c                |  2 +-
 arch/x86/mm/tlb.c                             |  3 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grufault.c               |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/gruhandles.c             |  2 +-
 drivers/misc/sgi-gru/grukservices.c           |  2 +-
Quoted 8 lines
 include/linux/sched/mm.h                      |  1 -
 include/linux/sync_core.h                     | 21 ------
 init/Kconfig                                  |  3 -
 kernel/sched/membarrier.c                     | 15 ++--
 15 files changed, 75 insertions(+), 87 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/sync_core.h
 create mode 100644 arch/powerpc/include/asm/sync_core.h
 delete mode 100644 include/linux/sync_core.h

For the arm64 bits (docs and asm/sync_core.h):

Will

author maintainer
#80 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 5 lines · Will Deacon

For the arm64 bits (docs and asm/sync_core.h):

Thanks.

Per Nick's suggestion, I renamed the header to membarrier.h. Unless I hear otherwise, I'll keep the ack.

Quoted 2 lines

Will

#81 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

In reply to Andy Lutomirski
Quoted 12 lines · ----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:

The old sync_core_before_usermode() comments suggested that a non-icache-syncing return-to-usermode instruction is x86-specific and that all other architectures automatically notice cross-modified code on return to userspace.

This is misleading. The incantation needed to modify code from one CPU and execute it on another CPU is highly architecture dependent. On x86, according to the SDM, one must modify the code, issue SFENCE if the modification was WC or nontemporal, and then issue a "serializing instruction" on the CPU that will execute the code. membarrier() can do the latter.

Quoted 8 lines

On arm64 and powerpc, one must flush the icache and then flush the pipeline on the target CPU, although the CPU manuals don't necessarily use this language.

So let's drop any pretense that we can have a generic way to define or implement membarrier's SYNC_CORE operation and instead require all architectures to define the helper and supply their own documentation as to how to use it.

Agreed. Documentation of the sequence of operations that need to be performed when cross-modifying code on SMP should be per-architecture. The documentation of the architectural effects of membarrier sync-core should be per-arch as well.

Quoted 1 line

This means x86, arm64, and powerpc for now.

And also arm32, as discussed in the other leg of the patchset's email thread.

Quoted 5 lines

Let's also
rename the function from sync_core_before_usermode() to membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() because the precise flushing details may very well be specific to membarrier, and even the concept of "sync_core" in the kernel is mostly an x86-ism.

OK

Quoted 1 line

[...]

Quoted 7 lines

static void ipi_rseq(void *info)
{

kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
@@ -368,12 +373,14 @@ static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int
 cpu_id)
 	smp_call_func_t ipi_func = ipi_mb;
 

kernel/sched/membarrier.c static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int · line 384

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +3 -1
 	if (flags == MEMBARRIER_FLAG_SYNC_CORE) {
-		if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
+#ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
 			return -EINVAL;
+#else
 		if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
 		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
 			return -EPERM;
 		ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
+#endif

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

Thanks,

Mathieu

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
 	} else if (flags == MEMBARRIER_FLAG_RSEQ) {
 		if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RSEQ))
			return -EINVAL;

--
2.31.1

Signature · 3 lines
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
author maintainer
#82 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
    BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}
#83 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 16 lines · ----- On Jun 17, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
   BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}

Let's look at the context here:

static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)

{
    [....]
    membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()
}

^ this can be within #ifdef / #endif

static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) [...]

               if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
                      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
                        return -EPERM;
                ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;

All we need to make the line above work is to define an empty ipi_sync_core function in the #else case after the ipi_sync_core() function definition.

Or am I missing your point ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

Signature · 3 lines
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
author maintainer
#84 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 45 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers
Quoted 16 lines · ----- On Jun 17, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
   BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}

Let's look at the context here:

static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)

{
    [....]
    membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()
}

^ this can be within #ifdef / #endif

static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) [...]

               if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
                      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
                        return -EPERM;
                ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
Quoted 4 lines

All we need to make the line above work is to define an empty ipi_sync_core function in the #else case after the ipi_sync_core() function definition.

Or am I missing your point ?

Maybe?

My objection is that an empty ipi_sync_core is a lie — it doesn’t sync the core. I would be fine with that if I could have the compiler statically verify that it’s not called, but I’m uncomfortable having it there if the implementation is actively incorrect.

#85 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 49 lines · ----- On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 48 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers
Quoted 16 lines · ----- On Jun 17, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
   BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}

Let's look at the context here:

static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)

{
    [....]
    membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()
}

^ this can be within #ifdef / #endif

static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) [...]

               if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
                      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
                        return -EPERM;
                ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;

All we need to make the line above work is to define an empty ipi_sync_core function in the #else case after the ipi_sync_core() function definition.

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 1 line

Or am I missing your point ?

Maybe?

My objection is that an empty ipi_sync_core is a lie — it doesn’t sync the core. I would be fine with that if I could have the compiler statically verify that it’s not called, but I’m uncomfortable having it there if the implementation is actively incorrect.

I see. Another approach would be to implement a "setter" function to populate "ipi_func". That setter function would return -EINVAL in its #ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE implementation.

Would that be better ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

Signature · 3 lines
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
#86 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Excerpts from Mathieu Desnoyers's message of June 19, 2021 6:09 am:

Quoted 55 lines
Quoted 53 lines · ----- On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 45 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers
Quoted 16 lines · ----- On Jun 17, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
   BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}

Let's look at the context here:

static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)

{
    [....]
    membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()
}

^ this can be within #ifdef / #endif

static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) [...]

               if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
                      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
                        return -EPERM;
                ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
Quoted 4 lines

All we need to make the line above work is to define an empty ipi_sync_core function in the #else case after the ipi_sync_core() function definition.

Or am I missing your point ?

Maybe?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines

My objection is that an empty ipi_sync_core is a lie — it doesn’t sync the core. I would be fine with that if I could have the compiler statically verify that it’s not called, but I’m uncomfortable having it there if the implementation is actively incorrect.

I see. Another approach would be to implement a "setter" function to populate "ipi_func". That setter function would return -EINVAL in its #ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE implementation.

I still don't get the problem with my suggestion. Sure the ipi is a "lie", but it doesn't get used. That's how a lot of ifdef folding works out. E.g.,

kernel/sched/membarrier.c +9 -0
index b5add64d9698..54cb32d064af 100644
@@ -5,6 +5,15 @@
  * membarrier system call
  */
 #include "sched.h"
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
+#else
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+	compiletime_assert(0, "architecture does not implement membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode");
+}
+
+#endif
 
 /*
  * For documentation purposes, here are some membarrier ordering
author maintainer
#87 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 76 lines · Nicholas Piggin

Excerpts from Mathieu Desnoyers's message of June 19, 2021 6:09 am:

Quoted 55 lines
Quoted 53 lines · ----- On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 45 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers
Quoted 16 lines · ----- On Jun 17, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
   BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}

Let's look at the context here:

static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)

{
    [....]
    membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()
}

^ this can be within #ifdef / #endif

static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) [...]

               if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
                      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
                        return -EPERM;
                ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
Quoted 4 lines

All we need to make the line above work is to define an empty ipi_sync_core function in the #else case after the ipi_sync_core() function definition.

Or am I missing your point ?

Maybe?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines

My objection is that an empty ipi_sync_core is a lie — it doesn’t sync the core. I would be fine with that if I could have the compiler statically verify that it’s not called, but I’m uncomfortable having it there if the implementation is actively incorrect.

I see. Another approach would be to implement a "setter" function to populate "ipi_func". That setter function would return -EINVAL in its #ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE implementation.

I still don't get the problem with my suggestion. Sure the ipi is a "lie", but it doesn't get used. That's how a lot of ifdef folding works out. E.g.,

kernel/sched/membarrier.c +0 -0
index b5add64d9698..54cb32d064af 100644
@@ -5,6 +5,15 @@
  * membarrier system call
  */

kernel/sched/membarrier.c line 16

Quoted 10 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +8 -0
 #include "sched.h"
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
+#else
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+	compiletime_assert(0, "architecture does not implement 
 membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode");
+}
+

With the assert there, I’m fine with this. Let me see if the result builds.

Quoted 5 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +1 -0
+#endif
 
 /*

* For documentation purposes, here are some membarrier ordering

#88 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Excerpts from Andy Lutomirski's message of June 20, 2021 1:50 am:

Quoted 83 lines · Nicholas Piggin
Quoted 80 lines

Excerpts from Mathieu Desnoyers's message of June 19, 2021 6:09 am:

Quoted 55 lines
Quoted 53 lines · ----- On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 45 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers
Quoted 16 lines · ----- On Jun 17, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:
Quoted 9 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

Please change back this #ifndef / #else / #endif within function for

if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE)) {
...
} else {
...
}

I don't think mixing up preprocessor and code logic makes it more readable.

I agree, but I don't know how to make the result work well. membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() isn't defined in the !IS_ENABLED case, so either I need to fake up a definition or use #ifdef.

Quoted 7 lines

If I faked up a definition, I would want to assert, at build time, that it isn't called. I don't think we can do:

static void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()

{
   BUILD_BUG_IF_REACHABLE();
}

Let's look at the context here:

static void ipi_sync_core(void *info)

{
    [....]
    membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode()
}

^ this can be within #ifdef / #endif

static int membarrier_private_expedited(int flags, int cpu_id) [...]

               if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE))
                        return -EINVAL;
                if (!(atomic_read(&mm->membarrier_state) &
                      MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE_READY))
                        return -EPERM;
                ipi_func = ipi_sync_core;
Quoted 4 lines

All we need to make the line above work is to define an empty ipi_sync_core function in the #else case after the ipi_sync_core() function definition.

Or am I missing your point ?

Maybe?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines

My objection is that an empty ipi_sync_core is a lie — it doesn’t sync the core. I would be fine with that if I could have the compiler statically verify that it’s not called, but I’m uncomfortable having it there if the implementation is actively incorrect.

I see. Another approach would be to implement a "setter" function to populate "ipi_func". That setter function would return -EINVAL in its #ifndef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE implementation.

I still don't get the problem with my suggestion. Sure the ipi is a "lie", but it doesn't get used. That's how a lot of ifdef folding works out. E.g.,

kernel/sched/membarrier.c +3 -0
index b5add64d9698..54cb32d064af 100644
@@ -5,6 +5,15 @@
  * membarrier system call
  */
 #include "sched.h"
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
+#include <asm/sync_core.h>
+#else
Quoted 8 lines

kernel/sched/membarrier.c line 15

Quoted 6 lines
kernel/sched/membarrier.c +5 -0
+static inline void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void)
+{
+	compiletime_assert(0, "architecture does not implement 
 membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode");
+}
+

With the assert there, I’m fine with this. Let me see if the result builds.

It had better, because compiletime_assert already relies on a similar level of code elimination to work.

I think it's fine to use for now, but it may not be quite the the logically correct primitive if we want to be really clean, because a valid compiletime_assert implementation should be able to fire even for code that is never linked. We would want something like to be clean IMO:

#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE
#include <asm/sync_core.h>
#else
extern void membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode(void) __compiletime_error("architecture does not implement membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode"); #endif

However that does not have the ifdef for optimising compile so AFAIKS it could break with a false positive in some cases.

Something like compiletime_assert_not_called("msg") that either compiles to a noop or a __compiletime_error depending on __OPTIMIZE__ would be the way to go IMO. I don't know if anything exists that fits, but it's certainly not a unique thing in the kernel so I may not be looking hard enough.

Thanks,
Nick

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Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

In reply to Andy Lutomirski

----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:

[...]

Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt line 15

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Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +7 -0
+# An architecture that wants to support
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE needs to define precisely what it
+# is supposed to do and implement membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() to
+# make it do that.  Then it can select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE via
+# Kconfig.Unfortunately, MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE is not a
+# fantastic API and may not make sense on all architectures.  Once an
+# architecture meets these requirements,

Can we please remove the editorial comment about the quality of the membarrier sync-core's API ?

At least it's better than having all userspace rely on mprotect() undocumented side-effects to perform something which typically works, until it won't, or until this prevents mprotect's implementation to be improved because it will start breaking JITs all over the place.

We can simply state that the definition of what membarrier sync-core does is defined per-architecture, and document the sequence of operations to perform when doing cross-modifying code specifically for each architecture.

Now if there are weird architectures where membarrier is an odd fit (I've heard that riscv might need address ranges to which the core sync needs to apply), then those might need to implement their own arch-specific system call, which is all fine.

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Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +4 -0
+#
+# On x86, a program can safely modify code, issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE, and then execute that code, via
+# the modified address or an alias, from any thread in the calling process.

Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt line 29

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Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +10 -0
+#
+# On arm64, a program can modify code, flush the icache as needed, and issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE to force a "context synchronizing
+# event", aka pipeline flush on all CPUs that might run the calling process.
+# Then the program can execute the modified code as long as it is executed
+# from an address consistent with the icache flush and the CPU's cache type.
+#
+# On powerpc, a program can use MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE
+# similarly to arm64.  It would be nice if the powerpc maintainers could
+# add a more clear explanantion.

We should document the requirements on ARMv7 as well.

Thanks,

Mathieu

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#90 lore raw

Re: [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation

Quoted 4 lines · Mathieu Desnoyers

----- On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski [email protected] wrote:

[...]

Quoted 10 lines

Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt line 15

Quoted 7 lines
Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +7 -0
+# An architecture that wants to support
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE needs to define precisely what it
+# is supposed to do and implement membarrier_sync_core_before_usermode() to
+# make it do that.  Then it can select ARCH_HAS_MEMBARRIER_SYNC_CORE via
+# Kconfig.Unfortunately, MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE is not a
+# fantastic API and may not make sense on all architectures.  Once an
+# architecture meets these requirements,

Can we please remove the editorial comment about the quality of the membarrier sync-core's API ?

Done

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Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +8 -0
+#
+# On x86, a program can safely modify code, issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE, and then execute that code, via
+# the modified address or an alias, from any thread in the calling process.
+#
+# On arm64, a program can modify code, flush the icache as needed, and issue
+# MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE to force a "context synchronizing
+# event", aka pipeline flush on all CPUs that might run the calling process.
Quoted 8 lines

Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt line 29

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Documentation/features/sched/membarrier-sync-core/arch-support.txt +6 -0
+# Then the program can execute the modified code as long as it is executed
+# from an address consistent with the icache flush and the CPU's cache type.
+#
+# On powerpc, a program can use MEMBARRIER_CMD_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED_SYNC_CORE
+# similarly to arm64.  It would be nice if the powerpc maintainers could
+# add a more clear explanantion.

We should document the requirements on ARMv7 as well.

Done.

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Thanks,

Mathieu