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v8 cover perf: arm-spe: Decode SPE source and use for perf c2c

When synthesizing data from SPE, augment the type with source information for Arm Neoverse cores so we can detect situtions like cache line contention and transfers on Arm platforms.

This changes enables future changes to c2c on a system with SPE where lines that are shared among multiple cores show up in perf c2c output.

Changes is v9:
* Change reporting of remote socket data which should make Leo's upcomping patch set for c2c make sense on multi-socket platforms

Changes in v8:
* Report NA for both mem_lvl and mem_lvl_num for stores where we have no information

Changes in v7:
* Minor change requested by Leo Yan

Changes in v6:
* Drop changes to c2c command which will come from Leo Yan

Changes in v5:
* Add a new snooping type to disambiguate cache-to-cache transfers where we don't know if the data is clean or dirty.
* Set snoop flags on all the data-source cases
* Special case stores as we have no information on them

Changes in v4:
* Bring-in the kernel's arch/arm64/include/asm/cputype.h into tools/
* Add neoverse-v1 to the neoverse cores list

Ali Saidi (4):
tools: arm64: Import cputype.h
perf arm-spe: Use SPE data source for neoverse cores perf mem: Support mem_lvl_num in c2c command perf mem: Support HITM for when mem_lvl_num is any

 tools/arch/arm64/include/asm/cputype.h        | 258 ++++++++++++++++++
 .../util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.c    |   1 +
 .../util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.h    |  12 +
 tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c                     | 110 +++++++-
 tools/perf/util/mem-events.c                  |  20 +-
 5 files changed, 383 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 tools/arch/arm64/include/asm/cputype.h
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PATCH v9 1/5 perf: Add SNOOP_PEER flag to perf mem data struct

Add a flag to the perf mem data struct to signal that a request caused a cache-to-cache transfer of a line from a peer of the requestor and wasn't sourced from a lower cache level. The line being moved from one peer cache to another has latency and performance implications. On Arm64 Neoverse systems the data source can indicate a cache-to-cache transfer but not if the line is dirty or clean, so instead of overloading HITM define a new flag that indicates this type of transfer.

---
 include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h +1 -1
index d37629dbad72..7b88bfd097dc 100644
@@ -1310,7 +1310,7 @@ union perf_mem_data_src {
 #define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_SHIFT	19
 
 #define PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD	0x01 /* forward */
-/* 1 free */
+#define PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER	0x02 /* xfer from peer */
 #define PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_SHIFT  38
 
 /* locked instruction */
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PATCH v9 2/5 perf tools: sync addition of PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER

In reply to Ali Saidi

Add a flag to the perf mem data struct to signal that a request caused a cache-to-cache transfer of a line from a peer of the requestor and wasn't sourced from a lower cache level. The line being moved from one peer cache to another has latency and performance implications. On Arm64 Neoverse systems the data source can indicate a cache-to-cache transfer but not if the line is dirty or clean, so instead of overloading HITM define a new flag that indicates this type of transfer.

---
 tools/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
tools/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h +1 -1
index d37629dbad72..7b88bfd097dc 100644
@@ -1310,7 +1310,7 @@ union perf_mem_data_src {
 #define PERF_MEM_SNOOP_SHIFT	19
 
 #define PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD	0x01 /* forward */
-/* 1 free */
+#define PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER	0x02 /* xfer from peer */
 #define PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_SHIFT  38
 
 /* locked instruction */
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PATCH v9 3/5 perf mem: Print snoop peer flag

In reply to Ali Saidi

From: Leo Yan <[email protected]>

Since PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_PEER flag is a new snoop type, print this flag if it is set.

Before:

       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1            l1d-miss:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP N/A|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A               aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1          l1d-access:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP N/A|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A               aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1            llc-miss:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP N/A|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A               aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1          llc-access:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP N/A|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A               aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1          tlb-access:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP N/A|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A               aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1              memory:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP N/A|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A               aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)

After:

       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1            l1d-miss:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP Peer|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A              aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1          l1d-access:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP Peer|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A              aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1            llc-miss:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP Peer|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A              aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1          llc-access:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP Peer|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A              aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1          tlb-access:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP Peer|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A              aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
       memstress  3603 [020]   122.463754:          1              memory:       8688000842 |OP LOAD|LVL L3 or L3 hit|SNP Peer|TLB Walker hit|LCK No|BLK  N/A              aaaac17c3e88 [unknown] (/home/ubuntu/memstress)
---
 tools/perf/util/mem-events.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
tools/perf/util/mem-events.c +15 -3
index efaf263464b9..db5225caaabe 100644
@@ -410,6 +410,11 @@ static const char * const snoop_access[] = {
 	"HitM",
 };
 
+static const char * const snoopx_access[] = {
+	"Fwd",
+	"Peer",
+};
+
 int perf_mem__snp_scnprintf(char *out, size_t sz, struct mem_info *mem_info)
 {
 	size_t i, l = 0;
@@ -430,13 +435,20 @@ int perf_mem__snp_scnprintf(char *out, size_t sz, struct mem_info *mem_info)
 		}
 		l += scnprintf(out + l, sz - l, snoop_access[i]);
 	}
-	if (mem_info &&
-	     (mem_info->data_src.mem_snoopx & PERF_MEM_SNOOPX_FWD)) {
+
+	m = 0;
+	if (mem_info)
+		m = mem_info->data_src.mem_snoopx;
+
+	for (i = 0; m && i < ARRAY_SIZE(snoopx_access); i++, m >>= 1) {
+		if (!(m & 0x1))
+			continue;
+
 		if (l) {
 			strcat(out, " or ");
 			l += 4;
 		}
-		l += scnprintf(out + l, sz - l, "Fwd");
+		l += scnprintf(out + l, sz - l, snoopx_access[i]);
 	}
 
 	if (*out == '\0')
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PATCH v9 4/5 perf arm-spe: Don't set data source if it's not a memory operation

In reply to Ali Saidi

From: Leo Yan <[email protected]>

Except memory load and store operations, Arm SPE records also can support other operation types, bug when set the data source field the current code assumes a record is a either load operation or store operation, this leads to wrongly synthesize memory samples.

This patch strictly checks the record operation type, it only sets data source only for the operation types ARM_SPE_LD and ARM_SPE_ST, otherwise, returns zero for data source. Therefore, we can synthesize memory samples only when data source is a non-zero value, the function arm_spe__is_memory_event() is useless and removed.

Fixes e55ed3423c1b ("perf arm-spe: Synthesize memory event")
---
 tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c | 22 ++++++++--------------
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c +8 -14
index d2b64e3f588b..e032efc03274 100644
@@ -387,26 +387,16 @@ static int arm_spe__synth_instruction_sample(struct arm_spe_queue *speq,
 	return arm_spe_deliver_synth_event(spe, speq, event, &sample);
 }
 
-#define SPE_MEM_TYPE	(ARM_SPE_L1D_ACCESS | ARM_SPE_L1D_MISS | \
-			 ARM_SPE_LLC_ACCESS | ARM_SPE_LLC_MISS | \
-			 ARM_SPE_REMOTE_ACCESS)
-
-static bool arm_spe__is_memory_event(enum arm_spe_sample_type type)
-{
-	if (type & SPE_MEM_TYPE)
-		return true;
-
-	return false;
-}
-
 static u64 arm_spe__synth_data_source(const struct arm_spe_record *record)
 {
 	union perf_mem_data_src	data_src = { 0 };
 
 	if (record->op == ARM_SPE_LD)
 		data_src.mem_op = PERF_MEM_OP_LOAD;
-	else
+	else if (record->op == ARM_SPE_ST)
 		data_src.mem_op = PERF_MEM_OP_STORE;
+	else
+		return 0;
 
 	if (record->type & (ARM_SPE_LLC_ACCESS | ARM_SPE_LLC_MISS)) {
 		data_src.mem_lvl = PERF_MEM_LVL_L3;
@@ -510,7 +500,11 @@ static int arm_spe_sample(struct arm_spe_queue *speq)
 			return err;
 	}
 
-	if (spe->sample_memory && arm_spe__is_memory_event(record->type)) {
+	/*
+	 * When data_src is zero it means the record is not a memory operation,
+	 * skip to synthesize memory sample for this case.
+	 */
+	if (spe->sample_memory && data_src) {
 		err = arm_spe__synth_mem_sample(speq, spe->memory_id, data_src);
 		if (err)
 			return err;
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Re: [PATCH v9 4/5] perf arm-spe: Don't set data source if it's not a memory operation

Em Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:03:25AM +0000, Ali Saidi escreveu:

Quoted 7 lines

From: Leo Yan <[email protected]>

Except memory load and store operations, Arm SPE records also can support other operation types, bug when set the data source field the current code assumes a record is a either load operation or store operation, this leads to wrongly synthesize memory samples.

Quoted 5 lines

This patch strictly checks the record operation type, it only sets data source only for the operation types ARM_SPE_LD and ARM_SPE_ST, otherwise, returns zero for data source. Therefore, we can synthesize memory samples only when data source is a non-zero value, the function arm_spe__is_memory_event() is useless and removed.

Thanks, applied.

- Arnaldo

Quoted 58 lines
Fixes e55ed3423c1b ("perf arm-spe: Synthesize memory event")
---
 tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c | 22 ++++++++--------------
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c +8 -14
index d2b64e3f588b..e032efc03274 100644
@@ -387,26 +387,16 @@ static int arm_spe__synth_instruction_sample(struct arm_spe_queue *speq,
 	return arm_spe_deliver_synth_event(spe, speq, event, &sample);
 }
 
-#define SPE_MEM_TYPE	(ARM_SPE_L1D_ACCESS | ARM_SPE_L1D_MISS | \
-			 ARM_SPE_LLC_ACCESS | ARM_SPE_LLC_MISS | \
-			 ARM_SPE_REMOTE_ACCESS)
-
-static bool arm_spe__is_memory_event(enum arm_spe_sample_type type)
-{
-	if (type & SPE_MEM_TYPE)
-		return true;
-
-	return false;
-}
-
 static u64 arm_spe__synth_data_source(const struct arm_spe_record *record)
 {
 	union perf_mem_data_src	data_src = { 0 };
 
 	if (record->op == ARM_SPE_LD)
 		data_src.mem_op = PERF_MEM_OP_LOAD;
-	else
+	else if (record->op == ARM_SPE_ST)
 		data_src.mem_op = PERF_MEM_OP_STORE;
+	else
+		return 0;
 
 	if (record->type & (ARM_SPE_LLC_ACCESS | ARM_SPE_LLC_MISS)) {
 		data_src.mem_lvl = PERF_MEM_LVL_L3;
@@ -510,7 +500,11 @@ static int arm_spe_sample(struct arm_spe_queue *speq)
 			return err;
 	}
 
-	if (spe->sample_memory && arm_spe__is_memory_event(record->type)) {
+	/*
+	 * When data_src is zero it means the record is not a memory operation,
+	 * skip to synthesize memory sample for this case.
+	 */
+	if (spe->sample_memory && data_src) {
 		err = arm_spe__synth_mem_sample(speq, spe->memory_id, data_src);
 		if (err)
 			return err;
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PATCH v9 5/5 perf arm-spe: Use SPE data source for neoverse cores

In reply to Ali Saidi

When synthesizing data from SPE, augment the type with source information for Arm Neoverse cores. The field is IMPLDEF but the Neoverse cores all use the same encoding. I can't find encoding information for any other SPE implementations to unify their choices with Arm's thus that is left for future work.

This change populates the mem_lvl_num for Neoverse cores as well as the deprecated mem_lvl namespace.

---
 .../util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.c    |   1 +
 .../util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.h    |  12 ++
 tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c                     | 130 +++++++++++++++---
 3 files changed, 127 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
tools/perf/util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.c +1 -0
index 5e390a1a79ab..091987dd3966 100644
@@ -220,6 +220,7 @@ static int arm_spe_read_record(struct arm_spe_decoder *decoder)
 
 			break;
 		case ARM_SPE_DATA_SOURCE:
+			decoder->record.source = payload;
 			break;
 		case ARM_SPE_BAD:
 			break;
tools/perf/util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.h +12 -0
index 69b31084d6be..46a61df1145b 100644
@@ -29,6 +29,17 @@ enum arm_spe_op_type {
 	ARM_SPE_ST		= 1 << 1,
 };
 
+enum arm_spe_neoverse_data_source {
+	ARM_SPE_NV_L1D		 = 0x0,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_L2		 = 0x8,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_PEER_CORE	 = 0x9,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_LOCAL_CLUSTER = 0xa,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_SYS_CACHE	 = 0xb,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_PEER_CLUSTER	 = 0xc,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_REMOTE	 = 0xd,
+	ARM_SPE_NV_DRAM		 = 0xe,
+};
+
 struct arm_spe_record {
 	enum arm_spe_sample_type type;
 	int err;
@@ -40,6 +51,7 @@ struct arm_spe_record {
 	u64 virt_addr;
 	u64 phys_addr;
 	u64 context_id;
+	u16 source;
 };
 
 struct arm_spe_insn;
tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c +114 -16

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Em Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:03:21AM +0000, Ali Saidi escreveu:

Quoted 10 lines

When synthesizing data from SPE, augment the type with source information for Arm Neoverse cores so we can detect situtions like cache line contention and transfers on Arm platforms.

This changes enables future changes to c2c on a system with SPE where lines that are shared among multiple cores show up in perf c2c output.

Changes is v9:
* Change reporting of remote socket data which should make Leo's upcomping patch set for c2c make sense on multi-socket platforms

Hey,

Joe Mario, who is one of 'perf c2c' authors asked me about some
git tree he could clone from for both building the kernel and tools/perf/ so that he could do tests, can you please provide that?

thanks!

- Arnaldo

Quoted 36 lines

Changes in v8:
* Report NA for both mem_lvl and mem_lvl_num for stores where we have no information

Changes in v7:
* Minor change requested by Leo Yan

Changes in v6:
* Drop changes to c2c command which will come from Leo Yan

Changes in v5:
* Add a new snooping type to disambiguate cache-to-cache transfers where we don't know if the data is clean or dirty.
* Set snoop flags on all the data-source cases
* Special case stores as we have no information on them

Changes in v4:
* Bring-in the kernel's arch/arm64/include/asm/cputype.h into tools/
* Add neoverse-v1 to the neoverse cores list

Ali Saidi (4):
tools: arm64: Import cputype.h
perf arm-spe: Use SPE data source for neoverse cores perf mem: Support mem_lvl_num in c2c command perf mem: Support HITM for when mem_lvl_num is any

 tools/arch/arm64/include/asm/cputype.h        | 258 ++++++++++++++++++
 .../util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.c    |   1 +
 .../util/arm-spe-decoder/arm-spe-decoder.h    |  12 +
 tools/perf/util/arm-spe.c                     | 110 +++++++-
 tools/perf/util/mem-events.c                  |  20 +-
 5 files changed, 383 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 tools/arch/arm64/include/asm/cputype.h
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Hi Arnaldo,

Quoted 12 lines · Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

Em Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:03:21AM +0000, Ali Saidi escreveu:

Quoted 10 lines

When synthesizing data from SPE, augment the type with source information for Arm Neoverse cores so we can detect situtions like cache line contention and transfers on Arm platforms.

This changes enables future changes to c2c on a system with SPE where lines that are shared among multiple cores show up in perf c2c output.

Changes is v9:
* Change reporting of remote socket data which should make Leo's upcomping patch set for c2c make sense on multi-socket platforms

Quoted 5 lines

Hey,

Joe Mario, who is one of 'perf c2c' authors asked me about some
git tree he could clone from for both building the kernel and tools/perf/ so that he could do tests, can you please provide that?

Sure, I will prepare a git tree for testing and share with Joe.

Quoted 1 line

thanks!

Also thanks for your reminding.

Leo

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Hi Joe,

Quoted 12 lines · Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

Em Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:03:21AM +0000, Ali Saidi escreveu:

Quoted 10 lines

When synthesizing data from SPE, augment the type with source information for Arm Neoverse cores so we can detect situtions like cache line contention and transfers on Arm platforms.

This changes enables future changes to c2c on a system with SPE where lines that are shared among multiple cores show up in perf c2c output.

Changes is v9:
* Change reporting of remote socket data which should make Leo's upcomping patch set for c2c make sense on multi-socket platforms

Quoted 5 lines

Hey,

Joe Mario, who is one of 'perf c2c' authors asked me about some
git tree he could clone from for both building the kernel and tools/perf/ so that he could do tests, can you please provide that?

I have uploaded the latest patches for enabling 'perf c2c' on Arm SPE on the repo:

https://git.linaro.org/people/leo.yan/linux-spe.git branch: perf_c2c_arm_spe_peer_v3

Below are the quick notes for build the kernel with enabling Arm SPE:

  $ git clone -b perf_c2c_arm_spe_peer_v3 https://git.linaro.org/people/leo.yan/linux-spe.git

Or

  $ git clone -b perf_c2c_arm_spe_peer_v3 ssh://[email protected]/people/leo.yan/linux-spe.git
  $ cd linux-spe

# Build kernel

  $ make defconfig
  $ ./scripts/config -e CONFIG_PID_IN_CONTEXTIDR
  $ ./scripts/config -e CONFIG_ARM_SPE_PMU
  $ make Image

# Build perf

  $ cd tools/perf
  $ make VF=1 DEBUG=1

When boot the kernel, please add option "kpti=off" in kernel command line, you might need to update grub menu for this.

Please feel free let us know if anything is not clear for you.

Thank you,
Leo

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Quoted 46 lines · Leo Yan

Hi Joe,

Quoted 12 lines · Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

Em Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:03:21AM +0000, Ali Saidi escreveu:

Quoted 10 lines

When synthesizing data from SPE, augment the type with source information for Arm Neoverse cores so we can detect situtions like cache line contention and transfers on Arm platforms.

This changes enables future changes to c2c on a system with SPE where lines that are shared among multiple cores show up in perf c2c output.

Changes is v9:
* Change reporting of remote socket data which should make Leo's upcomping patch set for c2c make sense on multi-socket platforms

Quoted 5 lines

Hey,

Joe Mario, who is one of 'perf c2c' authors asked me about some
git tree he could clone from for both building the kernel and tools/perf/ so that he could do tests, can you please provide that?

I have uploaded the latest patches for enabling 'perf c2c' on Arm SPE on the repo:

https://git.linaro.org/people/leo.yan/linux-spe.git branch: perf_c2c_arm_spe_peer_v3

Below are the quick notes for build the kernel with enabling Arm SPE:

  $ git clone -b perf_c2c_arm_spe_peer_v3 https://git.linaro.org/people/leo.yan/linux-spe.git

Or

  $ git clone -b perf_c2c_arm_spe_peer_v3 ssh://[email protected]/people/leo.yan/linux-spe.git
  $ cd linux-spe

# Build kernel

  $ make defconfig
  $ ./scripts/config -e CONFIG_PID_IN_CONTEXTIDR
  $ ./scripts/config -e CONFIG_ARM_SPE_PMU
  $ make Image

# Build perf

  $ cd tools/perf
  $ make VF=1 DEBUG=1
Quoted 8 lines

When boot the kernel, please add option "kpti=off" in kernel command line, you might need to update grub menu for this.

Please feel free let us know if anything is not clear for you.

Thank you,
Leo

Hi Leo:
Thanks for getting this working on ARM. I do have a few comments.

I built and ran this on a ARM Neoverse-N1 system with 2 numa nodes.

Comment 1:
When I run "perf c2c report", the "Node" field is marked "N/A". It's supposed to show the numa node where the data address for the cacheline resides. That's important both to see what node hot data resides on and if that data is getting lots of cross-numa accesses.

Comment 2:
I'm assuming you're identifying the contended cachelines using the "peer" load response, which indicates the load was resolved from a "peer" cpu's cacheline. Please confirm. If that's true, is it possible to identify if that "peer" response was on the local or remote numa node?

I ask because being able to identify both local and remote HitM's on Intel X86_64 has been quite valuable. That's because remote HitM's are costly and because it helps the viewer see if they need to optimize their cpu affinity or what node their hot data resides on.

Last Comment:
There's a row in the Pareto table that has incorrect column alignment.
Look at row 80 below in the truncated snipit of output. It has an extra field inserted in it at the beginning. I also show what the corrected output should look like.

Incorrect row 80:

    71	=================================================
    72	      Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto      
    73	=================================================
    74	#
    75	# ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs ------  ------- CL --------                      
    76	# RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss      N/A    Off  Node  PA cnt        Code address
    77	# .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .....  ....  ......  ..................
    78	#
    79	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    80	      0        0        0     4648        0        0    11572            0x422140
    81	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    82	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   44.47%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400ce8
    83	    0.00%    0.00%   10.26%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e48
    84	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   55.53%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e54
    85	    0.00%    0.00%   89.74%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x8   N/A       0            0x401038

Corrected row 80:

    71	=================================================
    72	      Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto      
    73	=================================================
    74	#
    75	# ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs -----   ------- CL --------                       
    76	# RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss     N/A     Off  Node  PA cnt        Code address
    77	# .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  ......   .....  ....  ......  ..................
    78	#
    79	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    80	       0        0     4648        0        0    11572            0x422140
    81	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    82	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   44.47%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400ce8
    83	    0.00%    0.00%   10.26%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e48
    84	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   55.53%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e54
    85	    0.00%    0.00%   89.74%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x8   N/A       0            0x401038

Thanks again for doing this.
Joe

#11 lore raw

Hi Joe,

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:16:53AM -0400, Joe Mario wrote:

[...]

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Hi Leo:
Thanks for getting this working on ARM. I do have a few comments.

I built and ran this on a ARM Neoverse-N1 system with 2 numa nodes.

Comment 1:
When I run "perf c2c report", the "Node" field is marked "N/A". It's supposed to show the numa node where the data address for the cacheline resides. That's important both to see what node hot data resides on and if that data is getting lots of cross-numa accesses.

Good catching. Will fix it.

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Comment 2:
I'm assuming you're identifying the contended cachelines using the "peer" load response, which indicates the load was resolved from a "peer" cpu's cacheline. Please confirm.

Yeah, "peer" is ambiguous. AFAIK, "peer" load can come from:
- Local node which in peer CPU's cache (can be same cluster or peer cluster);
- Remove ndoe which in CPU's cache line, or even from *remote DRAM*.

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If that's true, is it possible to identify if that "peer" response was on the local or remote numa node?

Good point. Yes, we can do this. So far, the remote accesses are accounted in the metric "rmt_hit", it should be same with the remote peer load; but so far we have no a metric to account local peer loads, it would be not hard to add metric "lcl_peer".

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I ask because being able to identify both local and remote HitM's on Intel X86_64 has been quite valuable. That's because remote HitM's are costly and because it helps the viewer see if they need to optimize their cpu affinity or what node their hot data resides on.

Thanks a lot for the info. This means at least I should refine the shared cache line distribution pareto for remote peer access, will do some experiment for the enhancement.

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Last Comment:
There's a row in the Pareto table that has incorrect column alignment.
Look at row 80 below in the truncated snipit of output. It has an extra field inserted in it at the beginning. I also show what the corrected output should look like.

Incorrect row 80:

    71	=================================================
    72	      Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto      
    73	=================================================
    74	#
    75	# ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs ------  ------- CL --------                      
    76	# RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss      N/A    Off  Node  PA cnt        Code address
    77	# .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .....  ....  ......  ..................
    78	#
    79	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    80	      0        0        0     4648        0        0    11572            0x422140
    81	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    82	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   44.47%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400ce8
    83	    0.00%    0.00%   10.26%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e48
    84	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   55.53%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e54
    85	    0.00%    0.00%   89.74%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x8   N/A       0            0x401038

Corrected row 80:

Quoted 15 lines
    71	=================================================
    72	      Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto      
    73	=================================================
    74	#
    75	# ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs -----   ------- CL --------                       
    76	# RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss     N/A     Off  Node  PA cnt        Code address
    77	# .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  ......   .....  ....  ......  ..................
    78	#
    79	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    80	       0        0     4648        0        0    11572            0x422140
    81	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    82	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   44.47%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400ce8
    83	    0.00%    0.00%   10.26%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e48
    84	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   55.53%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e54
    85	    0.00%    0.00%   89.74%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x8   N/A       0            0x401038

Hmm‥. At my side, I used below command to output pareto view, but I cannot see the conlumn "CL", the conlumn "CL" is only shown for TUI mode but not for the mode "--stdio". Could you share the method for how to reproduce this issue?

$ ./perf c2c report -i perf.data.v3 -N

=================================================
Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto
=================================================
#

#        ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs ------  --------- Data address ---------                      --------------- cycles ---------------    Total       cpu                                     Shared                              
#   Num  RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss      N/A              Offset  Node  PA cnt        Code address  rmt hitm  lcl hitm      load      peer  records       cnt                  Symbol             Object             Source:Line  Node{cpus %peers %stores}
# .....  .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  ..................  ....  ......  ..................  ........  ........  ........  ........  .......  ........  ......................  .................  ......................  ....
#
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      0        0        0    56183        0        0    26534            0x420180
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
           0.00%    0.00%   99.85%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%                 0x0   N/A       0            0x400bd0         0         0      1587      4034   188785         2  [.] 0x0000000000000bd0  false_sharing.exe  false_sharing.exe[bd0]   0{ 1  87.4%    n/a}  1{ 1  12.6%    n/a}
           0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   54.56%                 0x0   N/A       0            0x400bd4         0         0         0         0    14476         2  [.] 0x0000000000000bd4  false_sharing.exe  false_sharing.exe[bd4]   0{ 1    n/a   0.2%}  1{ 1    n/a  99.8%}
           0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   45.44%                 0x0   N/A       0            0x400bf8         0         0         0         0    12058         2  [.] 0x0000000000000bf8  false_sharing.exe  false_sharing.exe[bf8]   0{ 1    n/a  70.3%}  1{ 1    n/a  29.7%}
           0.00%    0.00%    0.15%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%                0x20   N/A       0            0x400c64         0         0      2462      2451     4835         2  [.] 0x0000000000000c64  false_sharing.exe  false_sharing.exe[c64]   0{ 1  11.9%    n/a}  1{ 1  88.1%    n/a}

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      1        0        0     2571        0        0    69861            0x420100
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
           0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%                 0x8   N/A       0            0x400c08         0         0         0         0    69861         2  [.] 0x0000000000000c08  false_sharing.exe  false_sharing.exe[c08]   0{ 1    n/a  62.1%}  1{ 1    n/a  37.9%}
           0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%                0x20   N/A       0            0x400c74         0         0       834       641     6576         2  [.] 0x0000000000000c74  false_sharing.exe  false_sharing.exe[c74]   0{ 1  93.2%    n/a}  1{ 1   6.8%    n/a}

Very appreciate your testing and suggestions!

Leo

#12 lore raw
Quoted 46 lines · Leo Yan

Hi Joe,

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:16:53AM -0400, Joe Mario wrote:

[SNIP]

Quoted 24 lines

Last Comment:
There's a row in the Pareto table that has incorrect column alignment.
Look at row 80 below in the truncated snipit of output. It has an extra field inserted in it at the beginning. I also show what the corrected output should look like.

Incorrect row 80:

    71	=================================================
    72	      Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto      
    73	=================================================
    74	#
    75	# ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs ------  ------- CL --------                      
    76	# RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss      N/A    Off  Node  PA cnt        Code address
    77	# .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  .....  ....  ......  ..................
    78	#
    79	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    80	      0        0        0     4648        0        0    11572            0x422140
    81	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    82	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   44.47%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400ce8
    83	    0.00%    0.00%   10.26%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e48
    84	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   55.53%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e54
    85	    0.00%    0.00%   89.74%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x8   N/A       0            0x401038

Corrected row 80:

Quoted 15 lines
    71	=================================================
    72	      Shared Cache Line Distribution Pareto      
    73	=================================================
    74	#
    75	# ----- HITM -----    Snoop  ------- Store Refs -----   ------- CL --------                       
    76	# RmtHitm  LclHitm     Peer   L1 Hit  L1 Miss     N/A     Off  Node  PA cnt        Code address
    77	# .......  .......  .......  .......  .......  ......   .....  ....  ......  ..................
    78	#
    79	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    80	       0        0     4648        0        0    11572            0x422140
    81	  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    82	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   44.47%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400ce8
    83	    0.00%    0.00%   10.26%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e48
    84	    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%   55.53%    0x0   N/A       0            0x400e54
    85	    0.00%    0.00%   89.74%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0x8   N/A       0            0x401038
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Hmm‥. At my side, I used below command to output pareto view, but I cannot see the conlumn "CL", the conlumn "CL" is only shown for TUI mode but not for the mode "--stdio". Could you share the method for how to reproduce this issue?

Hi Leo:
I figured out why my output was different than yours.

I did not have the slang-devel rpm installed on the host system.

In my original perf build, I missed the this output in the build log:

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slang not found, disables TUI support. Please install slang-devel, libslang-dev or libslang2-dev

Once I installed slang-devel, rebuilt perf, and then reran my test, the pareto output looked fine.

When the TUI support is disabled, it shouldn't corrupt the resulting stdio output. I don't believe this has anything to do with your commits.

Last, it looks like you should update the help text for the display flag options to reflect your new peer option. Currently it says:
-d, --display <Switch HITM output type>
lcl,rmt

But since you added the "peer" display, shouldn't the output for that help text state:
-d, --display <Switch HITM output type>
lcl,rmt,peer

Joe

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#13 lore raw

Hi Joe,

On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 01:24:32PM -0400, Joe Mario wrote:

[...]

Quoted 11 lines

Hi Leo:
I figured out why my output was different than yours.

I did not have the slang-devel rpm installed on the host system.

In my original perf build, I missed the this output in the build log:

Quoted 1 line

slang not found, disables TUI support. Please install slang-devel, libslang-dev or libslang2-dev

Once I installed slang-devel, rebuilt perf, and then reran my test, the pareto output looked fine.

When the TUI support is disabled, it shouldn't corrupt the resulting stdio output. I don't believe this has anything to do with your commits.

Thanks for taking time to hunt this issue. I checked the code and sent out a patch to fix the stdio interface if slang lib is not installed. Please see the patch:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/T/#u

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Last, it looks like you should update the help text for the display flag options to reflect your new peer option. Currently it says:

   -d, --display <Switch HITM output type>
                          lcl,rmt

But since you added the "peer" display, shouldn't the output for that help text state:

   -d, --display <Switch HITM output type>
                          lcl,rmt,peer

Yeah, will fix.

Very appreciate for your detailed testing and suggestions.

Leo