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PATCH Superseded Vidya Sagar 10 participants 28 messages May 21, 2024 – Oct 7, 2024

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PATCH v2 1/1 PCI: Extend ACS configurability

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

disable_acs_redir allows clearing the RR|CR|EC ACS flags, but the PCIe spec Rev3.0 already defines 7 different ACS related flags with many more useful combinations depending on the fabric design.

For backward compatibility, leave the 'disable_acs_redir' as is and add a new parameter 'config_acs'so that the user can directly specify the ACS flags to set on a per-device basis. Use a similar syntax to the existing 'resource_alignment'  parameter by using the @ character and have the user specify the ACS flags using a bit encoding. If both 'disable_acs_redir' and 'config_acs' are specified for a particular device, configuration specified through 'config_acs' takes precedence over the other.

---
v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

 .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt         |  22 +++
 drivers/pci/pci.c                             | 147 +++++++++++-------
 2 files changed, 111 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt +22 -0
index 41644336e..b4a8207eb 100644
@@ -4456,6 +4456,28 @@
 				bridges without forcing it upstream. Note:
 				this removes isolation between devices and
 				may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
+		config_acs=
+				Format:
+				=<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
+				Specify one or more PCI devices (in the format
+				specified above) optionally prepended with flags
+				and separated by semicolons. The respective
+				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or unchanged
+				based on what is specified in flags.
+				ACS Flags is defined as follows
+				bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
+				bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
+				bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
+				bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
+				bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
+				bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
+				bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
+				Each bit can be marked as
+				‘0‘ – force disabled
+				‘1’ – force enabled
+				‘x’ – unchanged.
+				Note: this may remove isolation between devices
+				and may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
 		force_floating	[S390] Force usage of floating interrupts.
 		nomio		[S390] Do not use MIO instructions.
 		norid		[S390] ignore the RID field and force use of
drivers/pci/pci.c +89 -58

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url:    https://github.com/intel-lab-lkp/linux/commits/Vidya-Sagar/PCI-Extend-ACS-configurability/20240521-191317
base:   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/pci/pci.git next
patch link:    https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240521110925.3876786-1-vidyas%40nvidia.com
patch subject: [PATCH V2] PCI: Extend ACS configurability
config: parisc-defconfig (https://download.01.org/0day-ci/archive/20240521/[email protected]/config)
compiler: hppa-linux-gcc (GCC) 13.2.0
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All warnings (new ones prefixed by >>):

>> drivers/pci/pci.c:1044: warning: Function parameter or struct member 'caps' not described in 'pci_std_enable_acs'

vim +1044 drivers/pci/pci.c

cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1038  
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1039  /**
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1040   * pci_std_enable_acs - enable ACS on devices using standard ACS capabilities
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1041   * @dev: the PCI device
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1042   */
a0bcc944f0e307a Vidya Sagar     2024-05-21  1043  static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps)
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07 @1044  {
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1045  	/* Source Validation */
a0bcc944f0e307a Vidya Sagar     2024-05-21  1046  	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_SV);
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1047  
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1048  	/* P2P Request Redirect */
a0bcc944f0e307a Vidya Sagar     2024-05-21  1049  	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_RR);
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1050  
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1051  	/* P2P Completion Redirect */
a0bcc944f0e307a Vidya Sagar     2024-05-21  1052  	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_CR);
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1053  
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1054  	/* Upstream Forwarding */
a0bcc944f0e307a Vidya Sagar     2024-05-21  1055  	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_UF);
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1056  
7cae7849fccee81 Alex Williamson 2021-06-18  1057  	/* Enable Translation Blocking for external devices and noats */
7cae7849fccee81 Alex Williamson 2021-06-18  1058  	if (pci_ats_disabled() || dev->external_facing || dev->untrusted)
a0bcc944f0e307a Vidya Sagar     2024-05-21  1059  		caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_TB);
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1060  }
cbe420361f92a31 Rajat Jain      2020-07-07  1061  
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PATCH v3 1/1 PCI: Extend ACS configurability

In reply to Vidya Sagar

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

disable_acs_redir allows clearing the RR|CR|EC ACS flags, but the PCIe spec Rev3.0 already defines 7 different ACS related flags with many more useful combinations depending on the fabric design.

For backward compatibility, leave the 'disable_acs_redir' as is and add a new parameter 'config_acs'so that the user can directly specify the ACS flags to set on a per-device basis. Use a similar syntax to the existing 'resource_alignment'  parameter by using the @ character and have the user specify the ACS flags using a bit encoding. If both 'disable_acs_redir' and 'config_acs' are specified for a particular device, configuration specified through 'config_acs' takes precedence over the other.

---
v3:
* Fixed a documentation issue reported by kernel test bot

v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

 .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt         |  22 +++
 drivers/pci/pci.c                             | 148 +++++++++++-------
 2 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt +22 -0
index 41644336e..b4a8207eb 100644
@@ -4456,6 +4456,28 @@
 				bridges without forcing it upstream. Note:
 				this removes isolation between devices and
 				may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
+		config_acs=
+				Format:
+				=<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
+				Specify one or more PCI devices (in the format
+				specified above) optionally prepended with flags
+				and separated by semicolons. The respective
+				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or unchanged
+				based on what is specified in flags.
+				ACS Flags is defined as follows
+				bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
+				bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
+				bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
+				bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
+				bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
+				bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
+				bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
+				Each bit can be marked as
+				‘0‘ – force disabled
+				‘1’ – force enabled
+				‘x’ – unchanged.
+				Note: this may remove isolation between devices
+				and may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
 		force_floating	[S390] Force usage of floating interrupts.
 		nomio		[S390] Do not use MIO instructions.
 		norid		[S390] ignore the RID field and force use of
drivers/pci/pci.c +90 -58

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[+cc iommu folks]

Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

Can you point to the iommu code that is involved here? It sounds like the iommu_groups are built at boot time and are immutable after that?

If we need per-device ACS config that depends on the workload, it seems kind of problematic to only be able to specify this at boot time. I guess we would need to reboot if we want to run a workload that needs a different config?

Is this the iommu usage model we want in the long term?

Quoted 3 lines

disable_acs_redir allows clearing the RR|CR|EC ACS flags, but the PCIe spec Rev3.0 already defines 7 different ACS related flags with many more useful combinations depending on the fabric design.

If we need a spec citation, I'd rather use r6.x since r3.0 is from 2010.

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For backward compatibility, leave the 'disable_acs_redir' as is and add a new parameter 'config_acs'so that the user can directly specify the ACS flags to set on a per-device basis. Use a similar syntax to the existing 'resource_alignment'  parameter by using the @ character and have the user specify the ACS flags using a bit encoding. If both 'disable_acs_redir' and 'config_acs' are specified for a particular device, configuration specified through 'config_acs' takes precedence over the other.

---
v3:
* Fixed a documentation issue reported by kernel test bot

v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

 .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt         |  22 +++
 drivers/pci/pci.c                             | 148 +++++++++++-------
 2 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt +22 -0
index 41644336e..b4a8207eb 100644
@@ -4456,6 +4456,28 @@
 				bridges without forcing it upstream. Note:
 				this removes isolation between devices and
 				may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
+		config_acs=
+				Format:
+				=<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
+				Specify one or more PCI devices (in the format
+				specified above) optionally prepended with flags
+				and separated by semicolons. The respective
+				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or unchanged
+				based on what is specified in flags.
+				ACS Flags is defined as follows
+				bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
+				bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
+				bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
+				bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
+				bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
+				bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
+				bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
+				Each bit can be marked as
+				‘0‘ – force disabled
+				‘1’ – force enabled
+				‘x’ – unchanged.
+				Note: this may remove isolation between devices
+				and may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
 		force_floating	[S390] Force usage of floating interrupts.
 		nomio		[S390] Do not use MIO instructions.
 		norid		[S390] ignore the RID field and force use of
drivers/pci/pci.c +90 -58
index a607f277c..a46264f83 100644
@@ -887,30 +887,67 @@ void pci_request_acs(void)
 }
 
 static const char *disable_acs_redir_param;
+static const char *config_acs_param;
 
-/**
- * pci_disable_acs_redir - disable ACS redirect capabilities
- * @dev: the PCI device
- *
- * For only devices specified in the disable_acs_redir parameter.
- */
-static void pci_disable_acs_redir(struct pci_dev *dev)
+struct pci_acs {
+	u16 cap;
+	u16 ctrl;
+	u16 fw_ctrl;
+};
+
+static void __pci_config_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps,
+			     const char *p, u16 mask, u16 flags)
 {
+	char *delimit;
 	int ret = 0;
-	const char *p;
-	int pos;
-	u16 ctrl;
 
-	if (!disable_acs_redir_param)
+	if (!p)
 		return;
 
-	p = disable_acs_redir_param;
 	while (*p) {
+		if (!mask) {
+			/* Check for ACS flags */
+			delimit = strstr(p, "@");
+			if (delimit) {
+				int end;
+				u32 shift = 0;
+
+				end = delimit - p - 1;
+
+				while (end > -1) {
+					if (*(p + end) == '0') {
+						mask |= 1 << shift;
+						shift++;
+						end--;
+					} else if (*(p + end) == '1') {
+						mask |= 1 << shift;
+						flags |= 1 << shift;
+						shift++;
+						end--;
+					} else if ((*(p + end) == 'x') || (*(p + end) == 'X')) {
+						shift++;
+						end--;
+					} else {
+						pci_err(dev, "Invalid ACS flags... Ignoring\n");
+						return;
+					}
+				}
+				p = delimit + 1;
+			} else {
+				pci_err(dev, "ACS Flags missing\n");
+				return;
+			}
+		}
+
+		if (mask & ~(PCI_ACS_SV | PCI_ACS_TB | PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR |
+			    PCI_ACS_UF | PCI_ACS_EC | PCI_ACS_DT)) {
+			pci_err(dev, "Invalid ACS flags specified\n");
+			return;
+		}
+
 		ret = pci_dev_str_match(dev, p, &p);
 		if (ret < 0) {
-			pr_info_once("PCI: Can't parse disable_acs_redir parameter: %s\n",
-				     disable_acs_redir_param);
-
+			pr_info_once("PCI: Can't parse acs command line parameter\n");
 			break;
 		} else if (ret == 1) {
 			/* Found a match */
@@ -930,56 +967,38 @@ static void pci_disable_acs_redir(struct pci_dev *dev)
 	if (!pci_dev_specific_disable_acs_redir(dev))
 		return;
 
-	pos = dev->acs_cap;
-	if (!pos) {
-		pci_warn(dev, "cannot disable ACS redirect for this hardware as it does not have ACS capabilities\n");
-		return;
-	}
-
-	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &ctrl);
+	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS mask  = 0x%X\n", mask);
+	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS flags = 0x%X\n", flags);
 
-	/* P2P Request & Completion Redirect */
-	ctrl &= ~(PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_EC);
+	/* If mask is 0 then we copy the bit from the firmware setting. */
+	caps->ctrl = (caps->ctrl & ~mask) | (caps->fw_ctrl & mask);
+	caps->ctrl |= flags;
 
-	pci_write_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, ctrl);
-
-	pci_info(dev, "disabled ACS redirect\n");
+	pci_info(dev, "Configured ACS to 0x%x\n", caps->ctrl);
 }
 
 /**
  * pci_std_enable_acs - enable ACS on devices using standard ACS capabilities
  * @dev: the PCI device
+ * @caps: default ACS controls
  */
-static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
+static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps)
 {
-	int pos;
-	u16 cap;
-	u16 ctrl;
-
-	pos = dev->acs_cap;
-	if (!pos)
-		return;
-
-	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &cap);
-	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &ctrl);
-
 	/* Source Validation */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_SV);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_SV);
 
 	/* P2P Request Redirect */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_RR);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_RR);
 
 	/* P2P Completion Redirect */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_CR);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_CR);
 
 	/* Upstream Forwarding */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_UF);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_UF);
 
 	/* Enable Translation Blocking for external devices and noats */
 	if (pci_ats_disabled() || dev->external_facing || dev->untrusted)
-		ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_TB);
-
-	pci_write_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, ctrl);
+		caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_TB);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -988,23 +1007,33 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
  */
 static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
 {
-	if (!pci_acs_enable)
-		goto disable_acs_redir;
+	struct pci_acs caps;
+	int pos;
+
+	pos = dev->acs_cap;
+	if (!pos)
+		return;
 
-	if (!pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
-		goto disable_acs_redir;
+	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &caps.cap);
+	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &caps.ctrl);
+	caps.fw_ctrl = caps.ctrl;
 
-	pci_std_enable_acs(dev);
+	/* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps */
+	if (pci_acs_enable) {
+		if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
+			pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);
+	}
 
-disable_acs_redir:
 	/*
-	 * Note: pci_disable_acs_redir() must be called even if ACS was not
-	 * enabled by the kernel because it may have been enabled by
-	 * platform firmware.  So if we are told to disable it, we should
-	 * always disable it after setting the kernel's default
-	 * preferences.
+	 * Always apply caps from the command line, even if there is no iommu.
+	 * Trust that the admin has a reason to change the ACS settings.
 	 */
-	pci_disable_acs_redir(dev);
+	__pci_config_acs(dev, &caps, disable_acs_redir_param,
+			 PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_EC,
+			 ~(PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_EC));
+	__pci_config_acs(dev, &caps, config_acs_param, 0, 0);
+
+	pci_write_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, caps.ctrl);
 }
 
 /**
@@ -7023,6 +7052,8 @@ static int __init pci_setup(char *str)
 				pci_add_flags(PCI_SCAN_ALL_PCIE_DEVS);
 			} else if (!strncmp(str, "disable_acs_redir=", 18)) {
 				disable_acs_redir_param = str + 18;
+			} else if (!strncmp(str, "config_acs=", 11)) {
+				config_acs_param = str + 11;
 			} else {
 				pr_err("PCI: Unknown option `%s'\n", str);
 			}
@@ -7047,6 +7078,7 @@ static int __init pci_realloc_setup_params(void)
 	resource_alignment_param = kstrdup(resource_alignment_param,
 					   GFP_KERNEL);
 	disable_acs_redir_param = kstrdup(disable_acs_redir_param, GFP_KERNEL);
+	config_acs_param = kstrdup(config_acs_param, GFP_KERNEL);
 
 	return 0;
 }
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Quoted 9 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

[+cc iommu folks]

Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

Can you point to the iommu code that is involved here? It sounds like the iommu_groups are built at boot time and are immutable after that?

They are created when the struct device is plugged in. pci_device_group() does the logic.

Notably groups can't/don't change if details like ACS change after the groups are setup.

There are alot of instructions out there telling people to boot their servers and then manually change the ACS flags with set_pci or something, and these are not good instructions since it defeats the VFIO group based security mechanisms.

Quoted 4 lines

If we need per-device ACS config that depends on the workload, it seems kind of problematic to only be able to specify this at boot time. I guess we would need to reboot if we want to run a workload that needs a different config?

Basically. The main difference I'd see is if the server is a VM host or running bare metal apps. You can get more efficicenty if you change things for the bare metal case, and often bare metal will want to turn the iommu off while a VM host often wants more of it turned on.

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Is this the iommu usage model we want in the long term?

There is some path to more dynamic behavior here, but it would require separating groups into two components - devices that are together because they are physically sharing translation (aliases and things) from devices that are together because they share a security boundary (ACS).

It is more believable we could dynamically change security group assigments for VFIO than translation group assignment. I don't know anyone interested in this right now - Alex and I have only talked about it as a possibility a while back.

FWIW I don't view patch as excluding more dynamisism in the future, but it is the best way to work with the current state of affairs, and definitely better than set_pci instructions.

Thanks,
Jason

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Hi Bjorn,
Could you let me know if Jason's reply answers your question? Please let me know if you are looking for any more information.

Thanks,
Vidya Sagar

Quoted 65 lines

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Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] PCI: Extend ACS configurability

Quoted 9 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

[+cc iommu folks]

Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

Can you point to the iommu code that is involved here? It sounds like the iommu_groups are built at boot time and are immutable after that?

They are created when the struct device is plugged in. pci_device_group() does the logic.

Notably groups can't/don't change if details like ACS change after the groups are setup.

There are alot of instructions out there telling people to boot their servers and then manually change the ACS flags with set_pci or something, and these are not good instructions since it defeats the VFIO group based security mechanisms.

Quoted 4 lines

If we need per-device ACS config that depends on the workload, it seems kind of problematic to only be able to specify this at boot time. I guess we would need to reboot if we want to run a workload that needs a different config?

Basically. The main difference I'd see is if the server is a VM host or running bare metal apps. You can get more efficicenty if you change things for the bare metal case, and often bare metal will want to turn the iommu off while a VM host often wants more of it turned on.

Quoted 1 line

Is this the iommu usage model we want in the long term?

There is some path to more dynamic behavior here, but it would require separating groups into two components - devices that are together because they are physically sharing translation (aliases and things) from devices that are together because they share a security boundary (ACS).

It is more believable we could dynamically change security group assigments for VFIO than translation group assignment. I don't know anyone interested in this right now - Alex and I have only talked about it as a possibility a while back.

FWIW I don't view patch as excluding more dynamisism in the future, but it is the best way to work with the current state of affairs, and definitely better than set_pci instructions.

Thanks,
Jason

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Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

Hi Bjorn,
Could you let me know if Jason's reply answers your question? Please let me know if you are looking for any more information.

I think we should add some of that content to the commit log. It needs:

- Subject line that advertises some good thing.

- A description of why users want this. I have no idea what the actual benefit is, but I'm looking for something at the level of "The default ACS settings put A and B in different IOMMU groups, preventing P2PDMA between them. If we disable ACS X, A and B will be put in the same group and P2PDMA will work".

- A primer on how users can affect IOMMU groups by enabling/ disabling ACS settings so they can use this without just blind trial and error. A note that this is immutable except at boot time.

- A pointer to the code that determines IOMMU groups based on the ACS settings. Similar to the above, but more useful for developers.

If we assert "for iommu_groups to form correctly ...", a hint about why/where this is so would be helpful.

"Correctly" is not quite the right word here; it's just a fact that the ACS settings determined at boot time result in certain IOMMU groups. If the user desires different groups, it's not that something is "incorrect"; it's just that the user may have to accept less isolation to get the desired IOMMU groups.

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Quoted 52 lines

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Gunthorpe <[email protected]>
...

Quoted 9 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

[+cc iommu folks]

Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

Can you point to the iommu code that is involved here? It sounds like the iommu_groups are built at boot time and are immutable after that?

They are created when the struct device is plugged in. pci_device_group() does the logic.

Notably groups can't/don't change if details like ACS change after the groups are setup.

There are alot of instructions out there telling people to boot their servers and then manually change the ACS flags with set_pci or something, and these are not good instructions since it defeats the VFIO group based security mechanisms.

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If we need per-device ACS config that depends on the workload, it seems kind of problematic to only be able to specify this at boot time. I guess we would need to reboot if we want to run a workload that needs a different config?

Basically. The main difference I'd see is if the server is a VM host or running bare metal apps. You can get more efficicenty if you change things for the bare metal case, and often bare metal will want to turn the iommu off while a VM host often wants more of it turned on.

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Is this the iommu usage model we want in the long term?

There is some path to more dynamic behavior here, but it would require separating groups into two components - devices that are together because they are physically sharing translation (aliases and things) from devices that are together because they share a security boundary (ACS).

It is more believable we could dynamically change security group assigments for VFIO than translation group assignment. I don't know anyone interested in this right now - Alex and I have only talked about it as a possibility a while back.

FWIW I don't view patch as excluding more dynamisism in the future, but it is the best way to work with the current state of affairs, and definitely better than set_pci instructions.

Thanks,
Jason

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Quoted 5 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

"Correctly" is not quite the right word here; it's just a fact that the ACS settings determined at boot time result in certain IOMMU groups. If the user desires different groups, it's not that something is "incorrect"; it's just that the user may have to accept less isolation to get the desired IOMMU groups.

That is not quite accurate.. There are HW configurations where ACS needs to be a certain way for the HW to work with P2P at all. It isn't just an optimization or the user accepts something, if they want P2P at all they must get a ACS configuration appropriate for their system.

Jason

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[+cc Alex since VFIO entered the conversation; thread at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]]

Quoted 11 lines · Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 5 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

"Correctly" is not quite the right word here; it's just a fact that the ACS settings determined at boot time result in certain IOMMU groups. If the user desires different groups, it's not that something is "incorrect"; it's just that the user may have to accept less isolation to get the desired IOMMU groups.

That is not quite accurate.. There are HW configurations where ACS needs to be a certain way for the HW to work with P2P at all. It isn't just an optimization or the user accepts something, if they want P2P at all they must get a ACS configuration appropriate for their system.

The current wording of "For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early" suggests that the way we currently configure ACS is incorrect in general, regardless of P2PDMA.

But my impression is that there's a trade-off between isolation and the ability to do P2PDMA, and users have different requirements, and the preference for less isolation/more P2PDMA is no more "correct" than a preference for more isolation/less P2PDMA.

The kernel-parameters doc mentions the reduced isolation idea, but I think we need a little more guidance for users. It's probably too much detail for kernel-parameters, but the commit log would be a good place.

Maybe something like this:

PCIe ACS settings determine how devices are put into iommu_groups. The iommu_groups in turn determine which devices can be passed through to VMs and whether P2PDMA between them is possible. The iommu_groups are built at enumeration-time and are currently static.

Add a kernel command-line option to change ACS settings for specific devices, which allows more devices to be put in the same iommu_group, at the cost of reduced isolation between them.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are XXX and cause devices below an ACS-capable port to be put in an iommu_group isolated from P2PDMA from outside the group.

Disabling ACS XXX at a port allows ... downstream devices to be included in the same iommu_group as ...

[I don't know exactly how this works, so please make it make sense].

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Quoted 16 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

[+cc Alex since VFIO entered the conversation; thread at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]]

Quoted 11 lines · Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 5 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

"Correctly" is not quite the right word here; it's just a fact that the ACS settings determined at boot time result in certain IOMMU groups. If the user desires different groups, it's not that something is "incorrect"; it's just that the user may have to accept less isolation to get the desired IOMMU groups.

That is not quite accurate.. There are HW configurations where ACS needs to be a certain way for the HW to work with P2P at all. It isn't just an optimization or the user accepts something, if they want P2P at all they must get a ACS configuration appropriate for their system.

Quoted 4 lines

The current wording of "For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early" suggests that the way we currently configure ACS is incorrect in general, regardless of P2PDMA.

Yes, I'd agree with this. We don't have enough information to configurate it properly in the kernel in an automatic way. We don't know if pairs of devices even have SW enablement to do P2P in the kernel and we don't accurately know what issues the root complex has. All of this information goes into choosing the right ACS bits.

Quoted 4 lines

But my impression is that there's a trade-off between isolation and the ability to do P2PDMA, and users have different requirements, and the preference for less isolation/more P2PDMA is no more "correct" than a preference for more isolation/less P2PDMA.

Sure, that makes sense

Quoted 6 lines

Maybe something like this:

PCIe ACS settings determine how devices are put into iommu_groups. The iommu_groups in turn determine which devices can be passed through to VMs and whether P2PDMA between them is possible. The iommu_groups are built at enumeration-time and are currently static.

Not quite, the iommu_groups don't have alot to do with the P2P. Even devices in the same kernel group can still have non working P2P.

Maybe:

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

Jason

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Quoted 85 lines · Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 16 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

[+cc Alex since VFIO entered the conversation; thread at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]]

Quoted 11 lines · Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 5 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

"Correctly" is not quite the right word here; it's just a fact that the ACS settings determined at boot time result in certain IOMMU groups. If the user desires different groups, it's not that something is "incorrect"; it's just that the user may have to accept less isolation to get the desired IOMMU groups.

That is not quite accurate.. There are HW configurations where ACS needs to be a certain way for the HW to work with P2P at all. It isn't just an optimization or the user accepts something, if they want P2P at all they must get a ACS configuration appropriate for their system.

Quoted 4 lines

The current wording of "For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early" suggests that the way we currently configure ACS is incorrect in general, regardless of P2PDMA.

Yes, I'd agree with this. We don't have enough information to configurate it properly in the kernel in an automatic way. We don't know if pairs of devices even have SW enablement to do P2P in the kernel and we don't accurately know what issues the root complex has. All of this information goes into choosing the right ACS bits.

Quoted 4 lines

But my impression is that there's a trade-off between isolation and the ability to do P2PDMA, and users have different requirements, and the preference for less isolation/more P2PDMA is no more "correct" than a preference for more isolation/less P2PDMA.

Sure, that makes sense

Quoted 6 lines

Maybe something like this:

PCIe ACS settings determine how devices are put into iommu_groups. The iommu_groups in turn determine which devices can be passed through to VMs and whether P2PDMA between them is possible. The iommu_groups are built at enumeration-time and are currently static.

Not quite, the iommu_groups don't have alot to do with the P2P. Even devices in the same kernel group can still have non working P2P.

Maybe:

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

Quoted 3 lines

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

That all sounds good. IIUC the current default is full prevention (I guess you said that a few paragraphs up).

It's unfortunate that this requires so much expert knowledge to use, but I guess we don't really have a good alternative. The only way I can think of to help would be some kind of white paper or examples in Documentation/PCI/.

Bjorn

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Quoted 4 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

It's unfortunate that this requires so much expert knowledge to use, but I guess we don't really have a good alternative. The only way I can think of to help would be some kind of white paper or examples in Documentation/PCI/.

So far I am seeing the system supplier supply the appropriate instructions.. It is already this way for set_pci, and yes, it is a huge PITA.

At one point Steven Bates was talking about some ACPI tables to give the OS more information but I don't think that went anywhere..

Jason

#12 lore raw
In reply to Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 85 lines · On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:23:01 -0300 Jason Gunthorpe <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 16 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

[+cc Alex since VFIO entered the conversation; thread at
https://lore.kernel.org/r/[email protected]]

Quoted 11 lines · Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 5 lines · Bjorn Helgaas

"Correctly" is not quite the right word here; it's just a fact that the ACS settings determined at boot time result in certain IOMMU groups. If the user desires different groups, it's not that something is "incorrect"; it's just that the user may have to accept less isolation to get the desired IOMMU groups.

That is not quite accurate.. There are HW configurations where ACS needs to be a certain way for the HW to work with P2P at all. It isn't just an optimization or the user accepts something, if they want P2P at all they must get a ACS configuration appropriate for their system.

Quoted 4 lines

The current wording of "For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early" suggests that the way we currently configure ACS is incorrect in general, regardless of P2PDMA.

Yes, I'd agree with this. We don't have enough information to configurate it properly in the kernel in an automatic way. We don't know if pairs of devices even have SW enablement to do P2P in the kernel and we don't accurately know what issues the root complex has. All of this information goes into choosing the right ACS bits.

Quoted 4 lines

But my impression is that there's a trade-off between isolation and the ability to do P2PDMA, and users have different requirements, and the preference for less isolation/more P2PDMA is no more "correct" than a preference for more isolation/less P2PDMA.

Sure, that makes sense

Quoted 6 lines

Maybe something like this:

PCIe ACS settings determine how devices are put into iommu_groups. The iommu_groups in turn determine which devices can be passed through to VMs and whether P2PDMA between them is possible. The iommu_groups are built at enumeration-time and are currently static.

Not quite, the iommu_groups don't have alot to do with the P2P. Even devices in the same kernel group can still have non working P2P.

Maybe:

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

Quoted 3 lines

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

FWIW, this sounds good to me too. There certainly needed to be some clarification that this controls the isolation of devices and IOMMU groups are determined by aspects of that isolation rather than this option directly and exclusively being used to configure grouping. I think this does that. Thanks,

Alex

Reviewed-by on v3 1/1
#13 lore raw
In reply to Vidya Sagar
Quoted 16 lines · Vidya Sagar

For iommu_groups to form correctly, the ACS settings in the PCIe fabric need to be setup early in the boot process, either via the BIOS or via the kernel disable_acs_redir parameter.

disable_acs_redir allows clearing the RR|CR|EC ACS flags, but the PCIe spec Rev3.0 already defines 7 different ACS related flags with many more useful combinations depending on the fabric design.

For backward compatibility, leave the 'disable_acs_redir' as is and add a new parameter 'config_acs'so that the user can directly specify the ACS flags to set on a per-device basis. Use a similar syntax to the existing 'resource_alignment'  parameter by using the @ character and have the user specify the ACS flags using a bit encoding. If both 'disable_acs_redir' and 'config_acs' are specified for a particular device, configuration specified through 'config_acs' takes precedence over the other.

Quoted 7 lines

---
v3:
* Fixed a documentation issue reported by kernel test bot

v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

Jason

#14 lore raw

PATCH v4 1/1 PCI: Extend ACS configurability

In reply to Vidya Sagar

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options (ex:- disable_acs_redir) allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

---
v4:
* Changed commit message (Courtesy: Jason) to provide more details

v3:
* Fixed a documentation issue reported by kernel test bot

v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

 .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt         |  22 +++
 drivers/pci/pci.c                             | 148 +++++++++++-------
 2 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt +22 -0
index 500cfa776225..42d0f6fd40d0 100644
@@ -4619,6 +4619,28 @@
 				bridges without forcing it upstream. Note:
 				this removes isolation between devices and
 				may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
+		config_acs=
+				Format:
+				=<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
+				Specify one or more PCI devices (in the format
+				specified above) optionally prepended with flags
+				and separated by semicolons. The respective
+				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or unchanged
+				based on what is specified in flags.
+				ACS Flags is defined as follows
+				bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
+				bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
+				bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
+				bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
+				bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
+				bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
+				bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
+				Each bit can be marked as
+				‘0‘ – force disabled
+				‘1’ – force enabled
+				‘x’ – unchanged.
+				Note: this may remove isolation between devices
+				and may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
 		force_floating	[S390] Force usage of floating interrupts.
 		nomio		[S390] Do not use MIO instructions.
 		norid		[S390] ignore the RID field and force use of
drivers/pci/pci.c +90 -58

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Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration.

An example wouldn't hurt, here and in kernel-parameters.txt.

Quoted 7 lines

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

I'm wondering whether it would make more sense to let users choose between those "higher-level" options, instead of giving direct access to bits (and thus risking users to choose an incorrect setting).

Also, would it be possible to automatically change ACS settings when enabling or disabling P2PDMA?

The representation chosen here (as a command line option) seems questionable:

We're going to add more user-controllable options going forward. E.g., when introducing IDE, we'll have to let user space choose whether encryption should be enabled for certain PCIe devices. That's because encryption isn't for free, so can't be enabled opportunistically. (The number of crypto engines on a CPU is limited and enabling encryption consumes energy.)

What about exposing such user configurable settings with sysctl? The networking subsystem has per-interface sysctl settings, we could have per-PCI-device settings.

So just like this...

net.ipv4.conf.default.arp_accept = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_accept = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth1.arp_accept = 0

... we could have...

pci.0000:03:00.0.acs = full_prevention
pci.0000:03:00.0.ide = 1
pci.0000:03:01.0.acs = all_traffic
pci.0000:03:01.0.ide = 0

This isn't hard to do, just call register_sysctl() for each device on enumeration and unregister_sysctl_table() on pci_destroy_dev().

Thanks,

Lukas

#16 lore raw
Quoted 16 lines · Lukas Wunner
Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration.

An example wouldn't hurt, here and in kernel-parameters.txt.

Quoted 7 lines

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

Quoted 3 lines

I'm wondering whether it would make more sense to let users choose between those "higher-level" options, instead of giving direct access to bits (and thus risking users to choose an incorrect setting).

It doesn't seem like the kernel has enough information to do that, or at least describing enough information in the command line would be more complex than this.

Quoted 2 lines

Also, would it be possible to automatically change ACS settings when enabling or disabling P2PDMA?

No, as the commit said the ACS settings are required at early boot before iommu_groups are formed. They cannot be changed dynamically with today's kernel.

Quoted 9 lines

The representation chosen here (as a command line option) seems questionable:

We're going to add more user-controllable options going forward. E.g., when introducing IDE, we'll have to let user space choose whether encryption should be enabled for certain PCIe devices. That's because encryption isn't for free, so can't be enabled opportunistically. (The number of crypto engines on a CPU is limited and enabling encryption consumes energy.)

But that isn't part of ACS, so what is wrong with having ACS its own configurable and other PCI functions can do what is appropriate for them?

I do encourage people to avoid using the kernel command line. ACS is forced into that because of the iommu_group issue.

Quoted 1 line

What about exposing such user configurable settings with sysctl?

I think sysctl is mostly deprecated in favour of sysfs.

An ide file in the sysfs to control the IDE stuff makes alot of sense to me.

Jason

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In reply to Lukas Wunner
Quoted 16 lines · Lukas Wunner
Quoted 3 lines · Vidya Sagar

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration.

An example wouldn't hurt, here and in kernel-parameters.txt.

Quoted 7 lines

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

Quoted 3 lines

I'm wondering whether it would make more sense to let users choose between those "higher-level" options, instead of giving direct access to bits (and thus risking users to choose an incorrect setting).

IMHO, with "higher-level" options will be much more complex to use than simple ACS bits matrix. In any case, the user who will use this feature will need to read PCI spec before.

In PCI v6, 13 bits are used for ACS with 8192 possible combinations and it is unlikely to find small set of "definitions" that will fit all cases.

Thanks

#18 lore raw
In reply to Vidya Sagar
Quoted 10 lines

From: Vidya Sagar <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 11:32 PM

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

It'll be helpful to also call out the impact of losing other features (e.g. PASID) with less isolation:

pci_enable_pasid()

{
	...
	if (!pci_acs_path_enabled(pdev, NULL, PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_UF))
		return -EINVAL;
	...
}
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Quoted 14 lines · Kevin
Quoted 10 lines

From: Vidya Sagar <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 11:32 PM

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

It'll be helpful to also call out the impact of losing other features (e.g. PASID) with less isolation:

Quoted 7 lines

pci_enable_pasid()

{
	...
	if (!pci_acs_path_enabled(pdev, NULL, PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_UF))
		return -EINVAL;
	...
}

Yeah, that is one of the considerations that might go into using asymmetric ACS..

Jason

#20 lore raw
In reply to Vidya Sagar
Quoted 50 lines · Vidya Sagar

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options (ex:- disable_acs_redir) allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

---
v4:
* Changed commit message (Courtesy: Jason) to provide more details

v3:
* Fixed a documentation issue reported by kernel test bot

Quoted 6 lines

v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

 .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt         |  22 +++
 drivers/pci/pci.c                             | 148 +++++++++++-------
 2 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)

Bjorn?

Jason

#21 lore raw
In reply to Vidya Sagar
Quoted 38 lines · Vidya Sagar

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options (ex:- disable_acs_redir) allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

Quoted 5 lines

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

Applied with the tweaks below to pci/acs for v6.11, thanks!

I added an example to the doc; please check it to see if I interpreted the doc correctly.

Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt +25 -15
index 42d0f6fd40d0..b2057241ea6c 100644
@@ -4621,24 +4621,34 @@
 				may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
 		config_acs=
 				Format:
-				=<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
+				<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
 				Specify one or more PCI devices (in the format
 				specified above) optionally prepended with flags
 				and separated by semicolons. The respective
-				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or unchanged
-				based on what is specified in flags.
-				ACS Flags is defined as follows
-				bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
-				bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
-				bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
-				bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
-				bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
-				bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
-				bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
-				Each bit can be marked as
-				‘0‘ – force disabled
-				‘1’ – force enabled
-				‘x’ – unchanged.
+				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or
+				unchanged based on what is specified in
+				flags.
+
+				ACS Flags is defined as follows:
+				  bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
+				  bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
+				  bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
+				  bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
+				  bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
+				  bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
+				  bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
+				Each bit can be marked as:
+				  '0' – force disabled
+				  '1' – force enabled
+				  'x' – unchanged
+				For example,
+				  pci=config_acs=10x
+				would configure all devices that support
+				ACS to enable P2P Request Redirect, disable
+				Translation Blocking, and leave Source
+				Validation unchanged from whatever power-up
+				or firmware set it to.
+
 				Note: this may remove isolation between devices
 				and may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
 		force_floating	[S390] Force usage of floating interrupts.
drivers/pci/pci.c +4 -4
index 1afe650ce338..45d93101a08b 100644
@@ -1006,7 +1006,7 @@ static void __pci_config_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps,
 
 		ret = pci_dev_str_match(dev, p, &p);
 		if (ret < 0) {
-			pr_info_once("PCI: Can't parse acs command line parameter\n");
+			pr_info_once("PCI: Can't parse ACS command line parameter\n");
 			break;
 		} else if (ret == 1) {
 			/* Found a match */
@@ -1026,14 +1026,14 @@ static void __pci_config_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps,
 	if (!pci_dev_specific_disable_acs_redir(dev))
 		return;
 
-	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS mask  = 0x%X\n", mask);
-	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS flags = 0x%X\n", flags);
+	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS mask  = %#06x\n", mask);
+	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS flags = %#06x\n", flags);
 
 	/* If mask is 0 then we copy the bit from the firmware setting. */
 	caps->ctrl = (caps->ctrl & ~mask) | (caps->fw_ctrl & mask);
 	caps->ctrl |= flags;
 
-	pci_info(dev, "Configured ACS to 0x%x\n", caps->ctrl);
+	pci_info(dev, "Configured ACS to %#06x\n", caps->ctrl);
 }
 
 /**
#22 lore raw
In reply to Vidya Sagar
Quoted 38 lines · Vidya Sagar

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options (ex:- disable_acs_redir) allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

Quoted 3 lines

The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

Hi,

this breaks ACS on some platforms (in 6.11). See:
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229019

When starting a KVM:

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"Error starting domain: internal error: QEMU unexpectedly closed the monitor (vm=‘win10’): qxl_send_events: spice-server bug: guest stopped, ignoring

2024-08-08T01:45:51.824474Z qemu-system-x86_64: -device {“driver”:“vfio-pci”,“host”:“0000:0b:00.0”,“id”:“hostdev0”,“bus”:“pci.2”,“addr”:“0x0”}: vfio 0000:0b:00.0: group 83 is not viable

Please ensure all devices within the iommu_group are bound to their vfio bus driver."

We backported the commit to 6.4, there they see:

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The good kernel 6.4.0-150600.23.14 log has this:

[    0.618918] pci 0000:00:1c.0: Intel PCH root port ACS workaround enabled
[    0.619153] pci 0000:00:1c.4: Intel PCH root port ACS workaround enabled

the bad one 6.4.0-150600.23.22 does not.

But the same difference is with 6.10 vs 6.11.

Any ideas? It looks like workarounds are not applied anymore.

Quoted 268 lines

---
v4:
* Changed commit message (Courtesy: Jason) to provide more details

v3:
* Fixed a documentation issue reported by kernel test bot

v2:
* Refactored the code as per Jason's suggestion

  .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt         |  22 +++
  drivers/pci/pci.c                             | 148 +++++++++++-------
  2 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt +22 -0
index 500cfa776225..42d0f6fd40d0 100644
@@ -4619,6 +4619,28 @@
  				bridges without forcing it upstream. Note:
  				this removes isolation between devices and
  				may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
+		config_acs=
+				Format:
+				=<ACS flags>@<pci_dev>[; ...]
+				Specify one or more PCI devices (in the format
+				specified above) optionally prepended with flags
+				and separated by semicolons. The respective
+				capabilities will be enabled, disabled or unchanged
+				based on what is specified in flags.
+				ACS Flags is defined as follows
+				bit-0 : ACS Source Validation
+				bit-1 : ACS Translation Blocking
+				bit-2 : ACS P2P Request Redirect
+				bit-3 : ACS P2P Completion Redirect
+				bit-4 : ACS Upstream Forwarding
+				bit-5 : ACS P2P Egress Control
+				bit-6 : ACS Direct Translated P2P
+				Each bit can be marked as
+				‘0‘ – force disabled
+				‘1’ – force enabled
+				‘x’ – unchanged.
+				Note: this may remove isolation between devices
+				and may put more devices in an IOMMU group.
  		force_floating	[S390] Force usage of floating interrupts.
  		nomio		[S390] Do not use MIO instructions.
  		norid		[S390] ignore the RID field and force use of
drivers/pci/pci.c +90 -58
index 55078c70a05b..6661932afe59 100644
@@ -946,30 +946,67 @@ void pci_request_acs(void)
  }
 
  static const char *disable_acs_redir_param;
+static const char *config_acs_param;
 
-/**
- * pci_disable_acs_redir - disable ACS redirect capabilities
- * @dev: the PCI device
- *
- * For only devices specified in the disable_acs_redir parameter.
- */
-static void pci_disable_acs_redir(struct pci_dev *dev)
+struct pci_acs {
+	u16 cap;
+	u16 ctrl;
+	u16 fw_ctrl;
+};
+
+static void __pci_config_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps,
+			     const char *p, u16 mask, u16 flags)
  {
+	char *delimit;
  	int ret = 0;
-	const char *p;
-	int pos;
-	u16 ctrl;
 
-	if (!disable_acs_redir_param)
+	if (!p)
  		return;
 
-	p = disable_acs_redir_param;
  	while (*p) {
+		if (!mask) {
+			/* Check for ACS flags */
+			delimit = strstr(p, "@");
+			if (delimit) {
+				int end;
+				u32 shift = 0;
+
+				end = delimit - p - 1;
+
+				while (end > -1) {
+					if (*(p + end) == '0') {
+						mask |= 1 << shift;
+						shift++;
+						end--;
+					} else if (*(p + end) == '1') {
+						mask |= 1 << shift;
+						flags |= 1 << shift;
+						shift++;
+						end--;
+					} else if ((*(p + end) == 'x') || (*(p + end) == 'X')) {
+						shift++;
+						end--;
+					} else {
+						pci_err(dev, "Invalid ACS flags... Ignoring\n");
+						return;
+					}
+				}
+				p = delimit + 1;
+			} else {
+				pci_err(dev, "ACS Flags missing\n");
+				return;
+			}
+		}
+
+		if (mask & ~(PCI_ACS_SV | PCI_ACS_TB | PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR |
+			    PCI_ACS_UF | PCI_ACS_EC | PCI_ACS_DT)) {
+			pci_err(dev, "Invalid ACS flags specified\n");
+			return;
+		}
+
  		ret = pci_dev_str_match(dev, p, &p);
  		if (ret < 0) {
-			pr_info_once("PCI: Can't parse disable_acs_redir parameter: %s\n",
-				     disable_acs_redir_param);
-
+			pr_info_once("PCI: Can't parse acs command line parameter\n");
  			break;
  		} else if (ret == 1) {
  			/* Found a match */
@@ -989,56 +1026,38 @@ static void pci_disable_acs_redir(struct pci_dev *dev)
  	if (!pci_dev_specific_disable_acs_redir(dev))
  		return;
 
-	pos = dev->acs_cap;
-	if (!pos) {
-		pci_warn(dev, "cannot disable ACS redirect for this hardware as it does not have ACS capabilities\n");
-		return;
-	}
-
-	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &ctrl);
+	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS mask  = 0x%X\n", mask);
+	pci_dbg(dev, "ACS flags = 0x%X\n", flags);
 
-	/* P2P Request & Completion Redirect */
-	ctrl &= ~(PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_EC);
+	/* If mask is 0 then we copy the bit from the firmware setting. */
+	caps->ctrl = (caps->ctrl & ~mask) | (caps->fw_ctrl & mask);
+	caps->ctrl |= flags;
 
-	pci_write_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, ctrl);
-
-	pci_info(dev, "disabled ACS redirect\n");
+	pci_info(dev, "Configured ACS to 0x%x\n", caps->ctrl);
  }
 
  /**
   * pci_std_enable_acs - enable ACS on devices using standard ACS capabilities
   * @dev: the PCI device
+ * @caps: default ACS controls
   */
-static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
+static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps)
  {
-	int pos;
-	u16 cap;
-	u16 ctrl;
-
-	pos = dev->acs_cap;
-	if (!pos)
-		return;
-
-	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &cap);
-	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &ctrl);
-
  	/* Source Validation */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_SV);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_SV);
 
  	/* P2P Request Redirect */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_RR);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_RR);
 
  	/* P2P Completion Redirect */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_CR);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_CR);
 
  	/* Upstream Forwarding */
-	ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_UF);
+	caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_UF);
 
  	/* Enable Translation Blocking for external devices and noats */
  	if (pci_ats_disabled() || dev->external_facing || dev->untrusted)
-		ctrl |= (cap & PCI_ACS_TB);
-
-	pci_write_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, ctrl);
+		caps->ctrl |= (caps->cap & PCI_ACS_TB);
  }
 
  /**
@@ -1047,23 +1066,33 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
   */
  static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
  {
-	if (!pci_acs_enable)
-		goto disable_acs_redir;
+	struct pci_acs caps;
+	int pos;
+
+	pos = dev->acs_cap;
+	if (!pos)
+		return;
 
-	if (!pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
-		goto disable_acs_redir;
+	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &caps.cap);
+	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &caps.ctrl);
+	caps.fw_ctrl = caps.ctrl;
 
-	pci_std_enable_acs(dev);
+	/* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps */
+	if (pci_acs_enable) {
+		if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
+			pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);
+	}
 
-disable_acs_redir:
  	/*
-	 * Note: pci_disable_acs_redir() must be called even if ACS was not
-	 * enabled by the kernel because it may have been enabled by
-	 * platform firmware.  So if we are told to disable it, we should
-	 * always disable it after setting the kernel's default
-	 * preferences.
+	 * Always apply caps from the command line, even if there is no iommu.
+	 * Trust that the admin has a reason to change the ACS settings.
  	 */
-	pci_disable_acs_redir(dev);
+	__pci_config_acs(dev, &caps, disable_acs_redir_param,
+			 PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_EC,
+			 ~(PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR | PCI_ACS_EC));
+	__pci_config_acs(dev, &caps, config_acs_param, 0, 0);
+
+	pci_write_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, caps.ctrl);
  }
 
  /**
@@ -6740,6 +6769,8 @@ static int __init pci_setup(char *str)
  				pci_add_flags(PCI_SCAN_ALL_PCIE_DEVS);
  			} else if (!strncmp(str, "disable_acs_redir=", 18)) {
  				disable_acs_redir_param = str + 18;
+			} else if (!strncmp(str, "config_acs=", 11)) {
+				config_acs_param = str + 11;
  			} else {
  				pr_err("PCI: Unknown option `%s'\n", str);
  			}
@@ -6764,6 +6795,7 @@ static int __init pci_realloc_setup_params(void)
  	resource_alignment_param = kstrdup(resource_alignment_param,
  					   GFP_KERNEL);
  	disable_acs_redir_param = kstrdup(disable_acs_redir_param, GFP_KERNEL);
+	config_acs_param = kstrdup(config_acs_param, GFP_KERNEL);
 
  	return 0;
  }
Signature · 2 lines
js
suse labs
#23 lore raw
Quoted 13 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 13 lines
drivers/pci/pci.c +6 -2
@@ -1047,23 +1066,33 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev 
 *dev)
    */
   static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
   {
-    if (!pci_acs_enable)
-        goto disable_acs_redir;
+    struct pci_acs caps;
+    int pos;
+
+    pos = dev->acs_cap;
+    if (!pos)
+        return;
Quoted 8 lines

drivers/pci/pci.c static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev) · line 1081

Quoted 8 lines
drivers/pci/pci.c +5 -3
-    if (!pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
-        goto disable_acs_redir;
+    pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &caps.cap);
+    pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &caps.ctrl);
+    caps.fw_ctrl = caps.ctrl;
-    pci_std_enable_acs(dev);
+    /* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps */
+    if (pci_acs_enable) {

AFAIU pci_acs_enable is set from iommus' code via pci_request_acs(). Which is much later than when bridges are initialized here, right?

Quoted 2 lines

drivers/pci/pci.c static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev) · line 1083

Quoted 2 lines
drivers/pci/pci.c +2 -0
+        if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
+            pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);

So this is never called, IMO.

Quoted 1 line

Review static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev · line 1083

Quoted 1 line
(quoted diff) +1 -0
+    }

thanks,

Signature · 2 lines
js
suse labs
#24 lore raw
Quoted 14 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 5 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 5 lines
drivers/pci/pci.c +0 -0
@@ -1047,23 +1066,33 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev 
 *dev)
    */
   static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
   {
Quoted 8 lines

drivers/pci/pci.c static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev) · line 1074

Quoted 8 lines
drivers/pci/pci.c +6 -2
-    if (!pci_acs_enable)
-        goto disable_acs_redir;
+    struct pci_acs caps;
+    int pos;
+
+    pos = dev->acs_cap;
+    if (!pos)
+        return;

Ignore the previous post.

The bridge has no ACS (see lspci below). So it used to be enabled by pci_quirk_enable_intel_pch_acs() by another registers. But the "if (!pos)" does not let it run now.

I am not sure how to fix this as we cannot have "caps" from these quirks, so that whole idea of __pci_config_acs() is nonworking for these quirks.

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C610/X99 series chipset PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

	Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 36
	NUMA node: 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=08, subordinate=08, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00001000-00001fff [size=4K]
	Memory behind bridge: f3600000-f37fffff [size=2M]
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f3800000-00000000f39fffff 

[size=2M]
Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- <SERR- <PERR-
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0
ExtTag- RBE+
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #1, Speed 5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s
<1us, L1 <4us
ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep+ BwNot+ ASPMOptComp-
LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk-
ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x0, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive-
BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
SltCap: AttnBtn- PwrCtrl- MRL- AttnInd- PwrInd- HotPlug+ Surprise+
Slot #0, PowerLimit 0.000W; Interlock- NoCompl+
SltCtl: Enable: AttnBtn- PwrFlt- MRL- PresDet- CmdCplt- HPIrq- LinkChg-
Control: AttnInd Unknown, PwrInd Unknown, Power- Interlock-
SltSta: Status: AttnBtn- PowerFlt- MRL- CmdCplt- PresDet- Interlock-
Changed: MRL- PresDet- LinkState-
RootCtl: ErrCorrectable- ErrNon-Fatal- ErrFatal- PMEIntEna- CRSVisible-
RootCap: CRSVisible-
RootSta: PME ReqID 0000, PMEStatus- PMEPending-
DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range ABC, TimeoutDis+, LTR+, OBFF Via
WAKE# ARIFwd-

			 AtomicOpsCap: Routing- 32bit- 64bit- 128bitCAS-
		DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF 

Disabled ARIFwd-
AtomicOpsCtl: ReqEn- EgressBlck-
LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance-
ComplianceSOS-
Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete-,
EqualizationPhase1-
EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest-
Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Address: fee00358 Data: 0000
Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Dell Device 0618
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: pcieport

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drivers/pci/pci.c static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev) · line 1081

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drivers/pci/pci.c +5 -3
-    if (!pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
-        goto disable_acs_redir;
+    pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CAP, &caps.cap);
+    pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &caps.ctrl);
+    caps.fw_ctrl = caps.ctrl;
-    pci_std_enable_acs(dev);
+    /* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps */
+    if (pci_acs_enable) {

AFAIU pci_acs_enable is set from iommus' code via pci_request_acs(). Which is much later than when bridges are initialized here, right?

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suse labs
#25 lore raw
Quoted 18 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 14 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 5 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 5 lines
(quoted diff) +0 -0
@@ -1047,23 +1066,33 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct
 pci_dev *dev)
    */
   static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
   {
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Review static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct · line 1075

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(quoted diff) +6 -2
-    if (!pci_acs_enable)
-        goto disable_acs_redir;
+    struct pci_acs caps;
+    int pos;
+
+    pos = dev->acs_cap;
+    if (!pos)
+        return;

Ignore the previous post.

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The bridge has no ACS (see lspci below). So it used to be enabled by pci_quirk_enable_intel_pch_acs() by another registers.

Er, Ok, so it overrides the whole thing with
pci_dev_specific_acs_enabled() too..

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I am not sure how to fix this as we cannot have "caps" from these quirks, so that whole idea of __pci_config_acs() is nonworking for these quirks.

We just need to allow the quirk to run before we try to do anything with the cap, which has probably always been a NOP anyhow.

Maybe like this?

drivers/pci/pci.c +9 -5
index 7d85c04fbba2ae..225a6cd2e9ca3b 100644
@@ -1067,8 +1067,15 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev, struct pci_acs *caps)
 static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
 {
 	struct pci_acs caps;
+	bool enable_acs = false;
 	int pos;
 
+	/* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps */
+	if (pci_acs_enable) {
+		if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
+			enable_acs = true;
+	}
+
 	pos = dev->acs_cap;
 	if (!pos)
 		return;
@@ -1077,11 +1084,8 @@ static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
 	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &caps.ctrl);
 	caps.fw_ctrl = caps.ctrl;
 
-	/* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps */
-	if (pci_acs_enable) {
-		if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
-			pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);
-	}
+	if (enable_acs)
+		pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);
 
 	/*
 	 * Always apply caps from the command line, even if there is no iommu.
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Quoted 71 lines · Jason Gunthorpe
Quoted 18 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 14 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 5 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 5 lines
drivers/pci/pci.c +0 -0
@@ -1047,23 +1066,33 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct
 pci_dev *dev)
    */
   static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
   {
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Review static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct · line 1075

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(quoted diff) +6 -2
-    if (!pci_acs_enable)
-        goto disable_acs_redir;
+    struct pci_acs caps;
+    int pos;
+
+    pos = dev->acs_cap;
+    if (!pos)
+        return;

Ignore the previous post.

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The bridge has no ACS (see lspci below). So it used to be enabled by
pci_quirk_enable_intel_pch_acs() by another registers.

Er, Ok, so it overrides the whole thing with
pci_dev_specific_acs_enabled() too..

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I am not sure how to fix this as we cannot have "caps" from these quirks, so
that whole idea of __pci_config_acs() is nonworking for these quirks.

We just need to allow the quirk to run before we try to do anything with the cap, which has probably always been a NOP anyhow.

Maybe like this?

drivers/pci/pci.c +1 -0
index 7d85c04fbba2ae..225a6cd2e9ca3b 100644
@@ -1067,8 +1067,15 @@ static void pci_std_enable_acs(struct pci_dev
 *dev, struct pci_acs *caps)
  static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
  {
  	struct pci_acs caps;
+	bool enable_acs = false;
  	int pos;

drivers/pci/pci.c +1 -0
+	/* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps

*/

drivers/pci/pci.c +5 -0
+	if (pci_acs_enable) {
+		if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
+			enable_acs = true;
+	}
+

  pos = dev->acs_cap;
  if (!pos)
  return;

drivers/pci/pci.c +0 -0
@@ -1077,11 +1084,8 @@ static void pci_enable_acs(struct pci_dev
 *dev)
  	pci_read_config_word(dev, pos + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &caps.ctrl);
  	caps.fw_ctrl = caps.ctrl;

drivers/pci/pci.c +0 -1
-	/* If an iommu is present we start with kernel default caps

*/

drivers/pci/pci.c +2 -4
-	if (pci_acs_enable) {
-		if (pci_dev_specific_enable_acs(dev))
-			pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);
-	}
+	if (enable_acs)
+		pci_std_enable_acs(dev, &caps);
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  /*
  * Always apply caps from the command line, even if there is no iommu.

Hi,

I just ran into this issue (fewer iommu groups starting with 6.11). Both reverting the original patch or applying your suggestion worked for me.

Thanks
Steffen

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In reply to Jiri Slaby
Quoted 39 lines · Jiri Slaby
Quoted 38 lines · Vidya Sagar

PCIe ACS settings control the level of isolation and the possible P2P paths between devices. With greater isolation the kernel will create smaller iommu_groups and with less isolation there is more HW that can achieve P2P transfers. From a virtualization perspective all devices in the same iommu_group must be assigned to the same VM as they lack security isolation.

There is no way for the kernel to automatically know the correct ACS settings for any given system and workload. Existing command line options (ex:- disable_acs_redir) allow only for large scale change, disabling all isolation, but this is not sufficient for more complex cases.

Add a kernel command-line option 'config_acs' to directly control all the ACS bits for specific devices, which allows the operator to setup the right level of isolation to achieve the desired P2P configuration. The definition is future proof, when new ACS bits are added to the spec the open syntax can be extended.

ACS needs to be setup early in the kernel boot as the ACS settings effect how iommu_groups are formed. iommu_group formation is a one time event during initial device discovery, changing ACS bits after kernel boot can result in an inaccurate view of the iommu_groups compared to the current isolation configuration.

ACS applies to PCIe Downstream Ports and multi-function devices. The default ACS settings are strict and deny any direct traffic between two functions. This results in the smallest iommu_group the HW can support. Frequently these values result in slow or non-working P2PDMA.

ACS offers a range of security choices controlling how traffic is allowed to go directly between two devices. Some popular choices:
- Full prevention
- Translated requests can be direct, with various options
- Asymmetric direct traffic, A can reach B but not the reverse
- All traffic can be direct
Along with some other less common ones for special topologies.

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The intention is that this option would be used with expert knowledge of the HW capability and workload to achieve the desired configuration.

Hi,

this breaks ACS on some platforms (in 6.11). See:
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229019

#regzbot introduced: 47c8846a ("PCI: Extend ACS configurability") #regzbot link: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229019