TCP MD5 vs kmemleak
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Jakub Kicinski
maintainerHi Dmitry!
We added kmemleak checks to the selftest runners, TCP AO/MD5 tests seem to trip it:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/643761/4-unsigned-md5-ipv6/stdout
Could you take a look? kmemleak is not infallible, it could be a false positive.
Hi Jakub,
thanks for pinging,
Quoted 10 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Hi Dmitry!
We added kmemleak checks to the selftest runners, TCP AO/MD5 tests seem to trip it:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/643761/4-unsigned-md5-ipv6/stdout
Could you take a look? kmemleak is not infallible, it could be a false positive.
Sure, that seems somewhat interesting, albeit at this moment not from the TCP side :D
There is some pre-history to the related issue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/
Which I was quite sure being addressed with what now is
https://git.kernel.org/linus/5f98fd034ca6
But now that I look at that commit, I see that kvfree_call_rcu() is defined to __kvfree_call_rcu() under CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=n. And I don't see the same kmemleak_ignore() on that path.
To double-check, you don't have kasan enabled on netdev runners, right?
And then straight away to another thought: the leak-report that you get currently is ao_info, which should not happen if kfree_rcu() is properly fixed.
But I'd expect kmemleak to be unhappy with ao keys freeing as well:
they are currently released with call_rcu(&key->rcu, tcp_ao_key_free_rcu), which doesn't have a hint for kmemleak, too.
I'm going to take a look at it this week. Just to let you know, I'm also looking at fixing those somewhat rare flakes on tcp-ao counters checks (but that may be net-next material together with tracepoint selftests).
Thanks,
Dmitry
Jakub Kicinski
maintainerQuoted 22 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:24:08 +0100 Dmitry Safonov wrote:
Hi Jakub,
thanks for pinging,
Quoted 10 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Hi Dmitry!
We added kmemleak checks to the selftest runners, TCP AO/MD5 tests seem to trip it:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/643761/4-unsigned-md5-ipv6/stdout
Could you take a look? kmemleak is not infallible, it could be a false positive.
Sure, that seems somewhat interesting, albeit at this moment not from the TCP side :D
There is some pre-history to the related issue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/
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Which I was quite sure being addressed with what now is
https://git.kernel.org/linus/5f98fd034ca6But now that I look at that commit, I see that
kvfree_call_rcu()is defined to__kvfree_call_rcu()underCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=n. And I don't see the samekmemleak_ignore()on that path.To double-check, you don't have kasan enabled on netdev runners, right?
We do:
CONFIG_KASAN=yCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=y
here's the full config:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/645202/config
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And then straight away to another thought: the leak-report that you get currently is
ao_info, which should not happen ifkfree_rcu()is properly fixed.
But I'd expect kmemleak to be unhappy with ao keys freeing as well:
they are currently released withcall_rcu(&key->rcu, tcp_ao_key_free_rcu), which doesn't have a hint for kmemleak, too.I'm going to take a look at it this week. Just to let you know, I'm also looking at fixing those somewhat rare flakes on tcp-ao counters checks (but that may be net-next material together with tracepoint selftests).
Let me add rcu@ to CC, perhaps folks there can guide us on known false positives with KASAN + kmemleak?
Paul E. McKenney
maintainerQuoted 47 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 22 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:24:08 +0100 Dmitry Safonov wrote:
Hi Jakub,
thanks for pinging,
Quoted 10 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Hi Dmitry!
We added kmemleak checks to the selftest runners, TCP AO/MD5 tests seem to trip it:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/643761/4-unsigned-md5-ipv6/stdout
Could you take a look? kmemleak is not infallible, it could be a false positive.
Sure, that seems somewhat interesting, albeit at this moment not from the TCP side :D
There is some pre-history to the related issue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/Quoted 8 lines
Which I was quite sure being addressed with what now is
https://git.kernel.org/linus/5f98fd034ca6But now that I look at that commit, I see that
kvfree_call_rcu()is defined to__kvfree_call_rcu()underCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=n. And I don't see the samekmemleak_ignore()on that path.To double-check, you don't have kasan enabled on netdev runners, right?
We do:
CONFIG_KASAN=yCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=yhere's the full config:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/645202/configQuoted 7 lines
And then straight away to another thought: the leak-report that you get currently is
ao_info, which should not happen ifkfree_rcu()is properly fixed.
But I'd expect kmemleak to be unhappy with ao keys freeing as well:
they are currently released withcall_rcu(&key->rcu, tcp_ao_key_free_rcu), which doesn't have a hint for kmemleak, too.
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I'm going to take a look at it this week. Just to let you know, I'm also looking at fixing those somewhat rare flakes on tcp-ao counters checks (but that may be net-next material together with tracepoint selftests).
Let me add rcu@ to CC, perhaps folks there can guide us on known false positives with KASAN + kmemleak?
I myself don't run KASAN with kmemleak, but maybe some of the others on this list do.
What sort of hint should be we add to call_rcu()? The memory is still reachable in the garbage-collector sense.
Thanx, Paul
Paolo Abeni
maintainerQuoted 47 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 22 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:24:08 +0100 Dmitry Safonov wrote:
Hi Jakub,
thanks for pinging,
Quoted 10 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Hi Dmitry!
We added kmemleak checks to the selftest runners, TCP AO/MD5 tests seem to trip it:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/643761/4-unsigned-md5-ipv6/stdout
Could you take a look? kmemleak is not infallible, it could be a false positive.
Sure, that seems somewhat interesting, albeit at this moment not from the TCP side :D
There is some pre-history to the related issue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/Quoted 8 lines
Which I was quite sure being addressed with what now is
https://git.kernel.org/linus/5f98fd034ca6But now that I look at that commit, I see that
kvfree_call_rcu()is defined to__kvfree_call_rcu()underCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=n. And I don't see the samekmemleak_ignore()on that path.To double-check, you don't have kasan enabled on netdev runners, right?
We do:
CONFIG_KASAN=yCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=yhere's the full config:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/645202/configQuoted 7 lines
And then straight away to another thought: the leak-report that you get currently is
ao_info, which should not happen ifkfree_rcu()is properly fixed.
But I'd expect kmemleak to be unhappy with ao keys freeing as well:
they are currently released withcall_rcu(&key->rcu, tcp_ao_key_free_rcu), which doesn't have a hint for kmemleak, too.
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I'm going to take a look at it this week. Just to let you know, I'm also looking at fixing those somewhat rare flakes on tcp-ao counters checks (but that may be net-next material together with tracepoint selftests).
Let me add rcu@ to CC, perhaps folks there can guide us on known false positives with KASAN + kmemleak?
FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
commit 5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6
Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000
rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after MSECS_MIN_AGE???
Cheers,
Paolo
Paul E. McKenney
maintainerQuoted 59 lines · Paolo Abeni
Quoted 47 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 22 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:24:08 +0100 Dmitry Safonov wrote:
Hi Jakub,
thanks for pinging,
Quoted 10 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Hi Dmitry!
We added kmemleak checks to the selftest runners, TCP AO/MD5 tests seem to trip it:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/643761/4-unsigned-md5-ipv6/stdout
Could you take a look? kmemleak is not infallible, it could be a false positive.
Sure, that seems somewhat interesting, albeit at this moment not from the TCP side :D
There is some pre-history to the related issue here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/Quoted 8 lines
Which I was quite sure being addressed with what now is
https://git.kernel.org/linus/5f98fd034ca6But now that I look at that commit, I see that
kvfree_call_rcu()is defined to__kvfree_call_rcu()underCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=n. And I don't see the samekmemleak_ignore()on that path.To double-check, you don't have kasan enabled on netdev runners, right?
We do:
CONFIG_KASAN=yCONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC=yhere's the full config:
https://netdev-3.bots.linux.dev/vmksft-tcp-ao-dbg/results/645202/configQuoted 7 lines
And then straight away to another thought: the leak-report that you get currently is
ao_info, which should not happen ifkfree_rcu()is properly fixed.
But I'd expect kmemleak to be unhappy with ao keys freeing as well:
they are currently released withcall_rcu(&key->rcu, tcp_ao_key_free_rcu), which doesn't have a hint for kmemleak, too.Quoted 7 lines
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I'm going to take a look at it this week. Just to let you know, I'm also looking at fixing those somewhat rare flakes on tcp-ao counters checks (but that may be net-next material together with tracepoint selftests).
Let me add rcu@ to CC, perhaps folks there can guide us on known false positives with KASAN + kmemleak?
FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
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commit
5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after
MSECS_MIN_AGE???
Fun! ;-)
This commit handles memory passed to kfree_rcu() and friends, but not memory passed to call_rcu() and friends. Of course, call_rcu() does not necessarily know the full extent of the memory passed to it, for example, if passed a linked list, call_rcu() will know only about the head of that list.
There are similar challenges with synchronize_rcu() and friends.
Thanx, Paul
Jakub Kicinski
maintainerQuoted 11 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
commit
5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after
MSECS_MIN_AGE???
Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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Fun! ;-)
This commit handles memory passed to
kfree_rcu()and friends, but not memory passed tocall_rcu()and friends. Of course,call_rcu()does not necessarily know the full extent of the memory passed to it, for example, if passed a linked list,call_rcu()will know only about the head of that list.There are similar challenges with
synchronize_rcu()and friends.
To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting kfree_rcu(), he mentioned call_rcu() as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.
Uladzislau Rezki
maintainerQuoted 25 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 11 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
commit
5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after
MSECS_MIN_AGE???Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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Fun! ;-)
This commit handles memory passed to
kfree_rcu()and friends, but not memory passed tocall_rcu()and friends. Of course,call_rcu()does not necessarily know the full extent of the memory passed to it, for example, if passed a linked list,call_rcu()will know only about the head of that list.
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There are similar challenges with
synchronize_rcu()and friends.To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting
kfree_rcu(), he mentionedcall_rcu()as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.
In the kfree_rcu() there is "an ignore" injection:
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/* * The kvfree_rcu() caller considers the pointer freed at this point * and likely removes any references to it. Since the actual slab * freeing (and kmemleak_free()) is deferred, tell kmemleak to ignore * this object (no scanning or false positives reporting). */ kmemleak_ignore(ptr); // Set timer to drain after KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES. if (rcu_scheduler_active == RCU_SCHEDULER_RUNNING) schedule_delayed_monitor_work(krcp);
<snip>
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Uladzislau Rezki
Paul E. McKenney
maintainerQuoted 25 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 11 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
commit
5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after
MSECS_MIN_AGE???Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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Fun! ;-)
This commit handles memory passed to
kfree_rcu()and friends, but not memory passed tocall_rcu()and friends. Of course,call_rcu()does not necessarily know the full extent of the memory passed to it, for example, if passed a linked list,call_rcu()will know only about the head of that list.
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There are similar challenges with
synchronize_rcu()and friends.To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting
kfree_rcu(), he mentionedcall_rcu()as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.
Whew!!! ;-)
Thanx, Paul
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Quoted 1 line · Jakub Kicinski
On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting
kfree_rcu(), he mentionedcall_rcu()as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.Whew!!! ;-)
I'm sorry guys, that was me being inadequate. That's a real issue, rather than a false-positive:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/[email protected]/
Thanks,
Dmitry
Paul E. McKenney
maintainerQuoted 11 lines · Dmitry Safonov
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting
kfree_rcu(), he mentionedcall_rcu()as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.Whew!!! ;-)
I'm sorry guys, that was me being inadequate.
I know that feeling!
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That's a real issue, rather than a false-positive:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/[email protected]/
So we need call_rcu() to mark memory flowing through it? If so, we need help from callers of call_rcu() in the case where more than one object is being freed.
Thanx, Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry for the delayed answer, I got a respiratory infection, so was in bed last week,
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:33:36AM +0100, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
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I'm sorry guys, that was me being inadequate.
I know that feeling!
Thanks :)
[adding/quoting back the context of the thread that I cut previously]
Quoted 31 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 30 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
commit
5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after
MSECS_MIN_AGE???Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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Fun! ;-)
This commit handles memory passed to
kfree_rcu()and friends, but not memory passed tocall_rcu()and friends. Of course,call_rcu()does not necessarily know the full extent of the memory passed to it, for example, if passed a linked list,call_rcu()will know only about the head of that list.There are similar challenges with
synchronize_rcu()and friends.To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting
kfree_rcu(), he mentionedcall_rcu()as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.
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That's a real issue, rather than a false-positive:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/[email protected]/So we need
call_rcu()to mark memory flowing through it? If so, we need help from callers ofcall_rcu()in the case where more than one object is being freed.
Not sure, I think one way to avoid explicitly marking pointers for call_rcu() or even avoiding the patch above would be a hackery like this:
mm/kmemleak.c +0 -0
@@ -1587,6 +1587,7 @@ static void kmemleak_cond_resched(struct
kmemleak_object *object)
static void kmemleak_scan(void)
{
struct kmemleak_object *object;
+ unsigned long gp_start_state;
struct zone *zone;
int __maybe_unused i;
int new_leaks = 0;
@@ -1630,6 +1631,7 @@ static void kmemleak_scan(void)
kmemleak_cond_resched(object);
}
rcu_read_unlock();+ gp_start_state = get_state_synchronize_rcu();
#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
/* per-cpu sections scanning */
@@ -1690,6 +1692,13 @@ static void kmemleak_scan(void)
*/
scan_gray_list();+ /*
+ * Wait for the greylist objects potentially migrating from + * RCU callbacks or maybe getting freed. + */
+ cond_synchronize_rcu(gp_start_state);
+ rcu_barrier();
+
/*
* Check for new or unreferenced objects modified since the previous
* scan and color them gray until the next scan.
-->8--
Not quite sure if this makes sense, my first time at kmemleak code, adding Catalin.
But then if I didn't mess up, it's going to work only for one RCU period, so in case some object calls rcu/kfree_rcu() from the callback, it's going to be yet a false-positive.
Some other options/ideas:
- more RCU-invasive option which would be adding a mapping function to segmented lists of callbacks, which would allow kmemleak to request from RCU if the pointer is yet referenced by RCU.
- the third option is for kmemleak to trust RCU and generalize the commit above, adding kmemleak_object::flags of OBJECT_RCU, which will be set by call_rcu()/kfree_rcu() and unset once the callback is invoked for RCU_DONE_TAIL.
- add kmemleak_object::update_jiffies or just directly touch kmemleak_object::jiffies whenever the object has been modified (see update_checksum()), that will ignore recently changed objects. As rcu_head should be updated, that is going to automagically ignore those deferred to RCU objects.
Not sure if I mis-looked anything and it seems there is no hurry in fixing anything yet, as this is a theoretical issue at this moment.
Hopefully, these ideas don't look like a nonsense,
Dmitry
Catalin Marinas
maintainerQuoted 48 lines · Dmitry Safonov
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So we need
call_rcu()to mark memory flowing through it? If so, we need help from callers ofcall_rcu()in the case where more than one object is being freed.Not sure, I think one way to avoid explicitly marking pointers for
call_rcu()or even avoiding the patch above would be a hackery like this:mm/kmemleak.c +1
-0@@ -1587,6 +1587,7 @@ static void kmemleak_cond_resched(struct kmemleak_object *object)static void kmemleak_scan (void ) {struct kmemleak_object *object; +unsigned long gp_start_state;struct zone *zone;int __maybe_unused i;int new_leaks = 0;mm/kmemleak.c +8
-1@@ -1630,6 +1631,7 @@ static void kmemleak_scan(void)kmemleak_cond_resched (object); }rcu_read_unlock (); + gp_start_state =get_state_synchronize_rcu ();#ifdef CONFIG_SMP /* per-cpu sections scanning */ @@ -1690,6 +1692,13 @@ static void kmemleak_scan(void)*/ scan_gray_list (); +/* +* Wait for the greylist objects potentially migrating from +* RCU callbacks or maybe getting freed. +*/ +cond_synchronize_rcu (gp_start_state); +rcu_barrier (); +/* * Check for new or unreferenced objects modified since the previous * scan and color them gray until the next scan. -->8--
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Not quite sure if this makes sense, my first time at kmemleak code, adding Catalin.
But then if I didn't mess up, it's going to work only for one RCU period, so in case some object calls rcu/kfree_rcu() from the callback, it's going to be yet a false-positive.
Yeah, I don't think this fully solves the problem.
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Some other options/ideas:
- more RCU-invasive option which would be adding a mapping function to segmented lists of callbacks, which would allow kmemleak to request from RCU if the pointer is yet referenced by RCU.
This looks too invasive to me plus additional scanning cost.
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- the third option is for kmemleak to trust RCU and generalize the commit above, adding
kmemleak_object::flagsofOBJECT_RCU, which will be set by call_rcu()/kfree_rcu() and unset once the callback is invoked forRCU_DONE_TAIL.
This could work, the downside being a kmemleak object lookup every time call_rcu() is invoked. Well, we do this now for kfree_rcu() already, though we just mark the object as ignored once.
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- add
kmemleak_object::update_jiffiesor just directly touchkmemleak_object::jiffieswhenever the object has been modified (seeupdate_checksum()), that will ignore recently changed objects. Asrcu_headshould be updated, that is going to automagically ignore those deferred to RCU objects.
This looks the simplest, reset the jiffies every time it detected the object being touched. However, I wonder whether we should introduce a new variable to track this. 'jiffies' currently stores the creation time (or thereabouts). We can change the 'age' reported in the sysfs as long as no user script parses that.
I added the min age to kmemleak to avoid the early object being added to some lists and getting reported as false positive. It looks like we have a similar scenario when the object is getting freed: it is added to RCU lists, disappears temporarily from kmemleak's view. So it does make sense to employ similar delay as for creation.
That said, for the default kmemleak operation with scanning every 10min, this wouldn't be needed. During one scan it detects the checksum changed due to the rcu_head update. 10min later it should have been freed already.
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Paul E. McKenney
maintainerQuoted 83 lines · Dmitry Safonov
Hi Paul,
Sorry for the delayed answer, I got a respiratory infection, so was in bed last week,
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:33:36AM +0100, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
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I'm sorry guys, that was me being inadequate.
I know that feeling!
Thanks :)
[adding/quoting back the context of the thread that I cut previously]
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Quoted 30 lines · On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 09:42:35 -0700 Paul E. McKenney wrote:
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FTR, with mptcp self-tests we hit a few kmemleak false positive on RCU freed pointers, that where addressed by to this patch:
commit
5f98fd034ca6fd1ab8c91a3488968a0e9caaabf6Author: Catalin Marinas <[email protected]> Date: Sat Sep 30 17:46:56 2023 +0000rcu: kmemleak: Ignore kmemleak false positives when RCU-freeing objects
I'm wondering if this is hitting something similar? Possibly due to lazy RCU callbacks invoked after
MSECS_MIN_AGE???Dmitry mentioned this commit, too, but we use the same config for MPTCP tests, and while we repro TCP AO failures quite frequently, mptcp doesn't seem to have failed once.
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Fun! ;-)
This commit handles memory passed to
kfree_rcu()and friends, but not memory passed tocall_rcu()and friends. Of course,call_rcu()does not necessarily know the full extent of the memory passed to it, for example, if passed a linked list,call_rcu()will know only about the head of that list.There are similar challenges with
synchronize_rcu()and friends.To be clear I think Dmitry was suspecting
kfree_rcu(), he mentionedcall_rcu()as something he was expecting to have a similar issue but it in fact appeared immune.Quoted 6 lines · Paul E. McKenney
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That's a real issue, rather than a false-positive:
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/[email protected]/So we need
call_rcu()to mark memory flowing through it? If so, we need help from callers ofcall_rcu()in the case where more than one object is being freed.Not sure, I think one way to avoid explicitly marking pointers for
call_rcu()or even avoiding the patch above would be a hackery like this:mm/kmemleak.c +1
-0@@ -1587,6 +1587,7 @@ static void kmemleak_cond_resched(struct kmemleak_object *object)static void kmemleak_scan (void ) {struct kmemleak_object *object; +unsigned long gp_start_state;struct zone *zone;int __maybe_unused i;int new_leaks = 0;mm/kmemleak.c +1
-0@@ -1630,6 +1631,7 @@ static void kmemleak_scan(void)kmemleak_cond_resched (object); }rcu_read_unlock (); + gp_start_state =get_state_synchronize_rcu ();#ifdef CONFIG_SMP /* per-cpu sections scanning */
mm/kmemleak.c static void kmemleak_scan(void) · line 1700
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mm/kmemleak.c +6
-0@@ -1690,6 +1692,13 @@ static void kmemleak_scan(void)*/ scan_gray_list (); +/* +* Wait for the greylist objects potentially migrating from +* RCU callbacks or maybe getting freed. +*/ +cond_synchronize_rcu (gp_start_state); +rcu_barrier ();
You lost me on this one. If you are waiting only on RCU callbacks, the rcu_barrier() suffices. If you are also waiting on objects to be freed after a synchronize_rcu(), kfree_rcu() or similar, you are waiting only for the corresponding grace period to end, not necessarily for the freeing of objects following that synchronize_rcu().
So what exactly needs to be waited upon?
I should hasten to add that the fact that there is currently no way to wait on kfree_rcu()'s frees is considered to be a bug, but that bug is currently only known to be a problem in the case of a module that uses kfree_rcu() on objects obtained from a kmem_cache structure, and that also passes that kmem_cache structure to kmem_cache_free() at module-unload time.
In the meantime, the workaround is to use call_rcu() instead of kfree_rcu() in that case. Which existing code does.
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mm/kmemleak.c +0
-1/* * Check for new or unreferenced objects modified since the previous * scan and color them gray until the next scan. -->8-- Not quite sure if this makes sense, my first time at kmemleak code, adding Catalin.
But then if I didn't mess up, it's going to work only for one RCU period, so in case some object calls rcu/kfree_rcu() from the callback, it's going to be yet a false-positive.
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Some other options/ideas:
- more RCU-invasive option which would be adding a mapping function to segmented lists of callbacks, which would allow kmemleak to request from RCU if the pointer is yet referenced by RCU.
- the third option is for kmemleak to trust RCU and generalize the commit above, addingkmemleak_object::flagsofOBJECT_RCU, which will be set by call_rcu()/kfree_rcu() and unset once the callback is invoked forRCU_DONE_TAIL.
- addkmemleak_object::update_jiffiesor just directly touchkmemleak_object::jiffieswhenever the object has been modified (seeupdate_checksum()), that will ignore recently changed objects. Asrcu_headshould be updated, that is going to automagically ignore those deferred to RCU objects.
You could also make greater use of the polled RCU API, marking an object (or, perhaps more space-efficiently, a group of objects) using get_state_synchronize_rcu_full(), then using poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() to see when all readers should be done. There are additional tricks that can be used if needed.
Thanx, Paul
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Not sure if I mis-looked anything and it seems there is no hurry in fixing anything yet, as this is a theoretical issue at this moment.
Hopefully, these ideas don't look like a nonsense,
Dmitry