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v3 cover veth: add Byte Queue Limits (BQL) support

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>

This series adds BQL (Byte Queue Limits) to the veth driver, reducing latency by dynamically limiting in-flight packets in the ptr_ring and moving buffering into the qdisc where AQM algorithms can act on it.

Problem:
veth's 256-entry ptr_ring acts as a "dark buffer" -- packets queued there are invisible to the qdisc's AQM. Under load, the ring fills completely (DRV_XOFF backpressure), adding up to 256 packets of unmanaged latency before the qdisc even sees congestion.

Solution:
BQL (STACK_XOFF) dynamically limits in-flight packets, stopping the queue before the ring fills. This keeps the ring shallow and pushes excess packets into the qdisc, where sojourn-based AQM can measure and drop them.

Test setup: veth pair, UDP flood, 13000 iptables rules in consumer namespace (slows NAPI-64 cycle to ~6-7ms), ping measures RTT under load.

BQL off BQL on

  fq_codel:  RTT ~22ms, 4% loss         RTT ~1.3ms, 0% loss
  sfq:       RTT ~24ms, 0% loss         RTT ~1.5ms, 0% loss

BQL reduces ping RTT by ~17x for both qdiscs. Consumer throughput is unchanged (~10K pps) -- BQL adds no overhead.

CoDel bug discovered during BQL development:
Our original motivation for BQL was fq_codel ping loss observed under load (4-26% depending on NAPI cycle time). Investigating this led us to discover a bug in the CoDel implementation: codel_dequeue() does not reset vars->first_above_time when a flow goes empty, contrary to the reference algorithm. This causes stale CoDel state to persist across empty periods in fq_codel's per-flow queues, penalizing sparse flows like ICMP ping. A fix for this has been applied to the net tree:

    https://git.kernel.org/netdev/net/c/815980fe6dbb

BQL remains valuable independently: it reduces RTT by ~17x by moving buffering from the dark ptr_ring into the qdisc. Additionally, BQL clears STACK_XOFF per-SKB as each packet completes, rather than batch-waking after 64 packets (DRV_XOFF). This keeps sojourn times below fq_codel's target, preventing CoDel from entering dropping state on non-congested flows in the first place.

Key design decisions:
- Charge-under-lock in veth_xdp_rx(): The BQL charge must precede the ptr_ring produce, because the NAPI consumer can run on another CPU and complete the SKB immediately after it becomes visible. To avoid a pre-charge/undo pattern, the charge is done under the ptr_ring producer_lock after confirming the ring is not full. BQL is only charged when produce is guaranteed to succeed, keeping num_queued monotonically increasing. HARD_TX_LOCK already serializes dql_queued() (veth requires a qdisc for BQL); the ptr_ring lock additionally would allow noqueue to work correctly.

- Per-SKB BQL tracking via pointer tag: A VETH_BQL_FLAG bit in the ptr_ring pointer records whether each SKB was BQL-charged. This is necessary because the qdisc can be replaced live (noqueue->sfq or vice versa) while SKBs are in-flight -- the completion side must know the charge state that was decided at enqueue time.

- IFF_NO_QUEUE + BQL coexistence: A new dev->bql flag enables BQL sysfs exposure for IFF_NO_QUEUE devices that opt in to DQL accounting, without changing IFF_NO_QUEUE semantics.

Background and acknowledgments:
Mike Freemon reported the veth dark buffer problem internally at Cloudflare and showed that recompiling the kernel with a ptr_ring size of 30 (down from 256) made fq_codel work dramatically better. This was the primary motivation for a proper BQL solution that achieves the same effect dynamically without a kernel rebuild.

Chris Arges wrote a reproducer for the dark buffer latency problem:
https://github.com/netoptimizer/veth-backpressure-performance-testing
This is where we first observed ping packets being dropped under fq_codel, which became our secondary motivation for BQL. In production we switched to SFQ on veth devices as a workaround.

Jonas Koeppeler provided extensive testing and code review. Together we discovered that the fq_codel ping loss was actually a 12-year-old CoDel bug (stale first_above_time in empty flows), not caused by the dark buffer itself. A fix has been applied to the net tree:

    https://git.kernel.org/netdev/net/c/815980fe6dbb

Patch overview:
1. net: add dev->bql flag to allow BQL sysfs for IFF_NO_QUEUE devices
2. veth: implement Byte Queue Limits (BQL) for latency reduction
3. veth: add tx_timeout watchdog as BQL safety net
4. net: sched: add timeout count to NETDEV WATCHDOG message
5. selftests: net: add veth BQL stress test

Jesper Dangaard Brouer (5):
net: add dev->bql flag to allow BQL sysfs for IFF_NO_QUEUE devices
veth: implement Byte Queue Limits (BQL) for latency reduction
veth: add tx_timeout watchdog as BQL safety net
net: sched: add timeout count to NETDEV WATCHDOG message
selftests: net: add veth BQL stress test

 .../networking/net_cachelines/net_device.rst  |   1 +
 drivers/net/veth.c                            |  94 +-
 include/linux/netdevice.h                     |   2 +
 net/core/net-sysfs.c                          |   8 +-
 net/sched/sch_generic.c                       |   8 +-
 tools/testing/selftests/net/Makefile          |   3 +
 tools/testing/selftests/net/config            |   1 +
 tools/testing/selftests/net/napi_poll_hist.bt |  40 +
 tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh  | 821 ++++++++++++++++++
 .../selftests/net/veth_bql_test_virtme.sh     | 124 +++
 10 files changed, 1086 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/net/napi_poll_hist.bt
 create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh
 create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test_virtme.sh

V2: https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/

Changes since V2:
- Patch 2 (veth BQL): fix syzbot WARNING in veth_napi_del_range():
clamp BQL reset loop to peer's real_num_tx_queues. The loop was iterating dev->real_num_rx_queues but indexing peer's txq[], which goes out of bounds when the peer has fewer TX queues (e.g. veth enslaved to a bond with XDP attached).
- Patch 5 (selftests): fix CONFIG_NET_SCH_SFQ alphabetical ordering in net/config (Breno Leitao).

V1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/

Changes since V1:
- Patch 1 (dev->bql flag): add kdoc entry for @bql in struct net_device.
- Patch 2 (veth BQL): charge fixed VETH_BQL_UNIT (1) per packet instead of skb->len. veth has no link speed; the ptr_ring is packet-indexed. Byte-based charging lets small packets sneak many entries into the ring.
Testing: min-size packet flood causes 3.7x ping RTT degradation with skb->len vs no change with fixed-unit charging.
- Patch 3 (tx_timeout watchdog): fix race with peer NAPI: replace netdev_tx_reset_queue() with clear_bit(STACK_XOFF) + netif_tx_wake_queue() to avoid dql_reset() racing with concurrent dql_completed().
- Patch 5 (selftests): fix shellcheck warnings and infos:
- Quote variables passed to kill_process and exit.
- Declare and assign local variables separately (SC2155).
- Use read -r to avoid mangling backslashes (SC2162).
- Add shellcheck disable comments for intentional word splitting (set -- $line, tc $qdisc $opts) and indirect invocation (trap).
- Make iptables-restore failure a hard FAIL instead of continuing.
- Add veth_bql_test.sh to TEST_PROGS in net/Makefile.
- Add veth_bql_test_virtme.sh to TEST_FILES (needs kernel build tree).
- Add napi_poll_hist.bt to TEST_FILES in net/Makefile.
- Add CONFIG_NET_SCH_SFQ=m to net/config (default qdisc is sfq).
- Reduce default test duration from 300s to 30s for kselftest CI.
- Fix virtme wrapper: empty args bug, check vmlinux instead of test path.
- Cover letter: update CoDel fix reference to merged commit in net tree.

Cc "David S. Miller" <[email protected]>
Cc Eric Dumazet <[email protected]>
Cc Jakub Kicinski <[email protected]>
Cc Paolo Abeni <[email protected]>
Cc Simon Horman <[email protected]>
Cc Shuah Khan <[email protected]>
Cc Chris Arges <[email protected]>
Cc Mike Freemon <[email protected]>
Cc Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <[email protected]>
Cc Jonas Köppeler <[email protected]>
Cc Breno Leitao <[email protected]>
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PATCH v3 1/5 net: add dev->bql flag to allow BQL sysfs for IFF_NO_QUEUE devices

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>

Virtual devices with IFF_NO_QUEUE or lltx are excluded from BQL sysfs by netdev_uses_bql(), since they traditionally lack real hardware queues. However, some virtual devices like veth implement a real ptr_ring FIFO with NAPI processing and benefit from BQL to limit in-flight bytes and reduce latency.

Add a per-device 'bql' bitfield boolean in the priv_flags_slow section of struct net_device. When set, it overrides the IFF_NO_QUEUE/lltx exclusion and exposes BQL sysfs entries (/sys/class/net/<dev>/queues/ tx-<n>/byte_queue_limits/). The flag is still gated on CONFIG_BQL.

This allows drivers that use BQL despite being IFF_NO_QUEUE to opt in to sysfs visibility for monitoring and debugging.

---
 Documentation/networking/net_cachelines/net_device.rst | 1 +
 include/linux/netdevice.h                              | 2 ++
 net/core/net-sysfs.c                                   | 8 +++++++-
 3 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
Documentation/networking/net_cachelines/net_device.rst +1 -0
index 1c19bb7705df..b775d3235a2d 100644
@@ -170,6 +170,7 @@ unsigned_long:1                     see_all_hwtstamp_requests
 unsigned_long:1                     change_proto_down
 unsigned_long:1                     netns_immutable
 unsigned_long:1                     fcoe_mtu
+unsigned_long:1                     bql                                                                 netdev_uses_bql(net-sysfs.c)
 struct list_head                    net_notifier_list
 struct macsec_ops*                  macsec_ops
 struct udp_tunnel_nic_info*         udp_tunnel_nic_info
include/linux/netdevice.h +2 -0
index 47417b2d48a4..7a1a491ecdd5 100644
@@ -2048,6 +2048,7 @@ enum netdev_reg_state {
  *	@change_proto_down: device supports setting carrier via IFLA_PROTO_DOWN
  *	@netns_immutable: interface can't change network namespaces
  *	@fcoe_mtu:	device supports maximum FCoE MTU, 2158 bytes
+ *	@bql:		device uses BQL (DQL sysfs) despite having IFF_NO_QUEUE
  *
  *	@net_notifier_list:	List of per-net netdev notifier block
  *				that follow this device when it is moved
@@ -2462,6 +2463,7 @@ struct net_device {
 	unsigned long		change_proto_down:1;
 	unsigned long		netns_immutable:1;
 	unsigned long		fcoe_mtu:1;
+	unsigned long		bql:1;
 
 	struct list_head	net_notifier_list;
 
net/core/net-sysfs.c +7 -1
index e430645748a7..4360efc8f241 100644
@@ -1945,10 +1945,16 @@ static const struct kobj_type netdev_queue_ktype = {
 
 static bool netdev_uses_bql(const struct net_device *dev)
 {
+	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BQL))
+		return false;
+
+	if (dev->bql)
+		return true;
+
 	if (dev->lltx || (dev->priv_flags & IFF_NO_QUEUE))
 		return false;
 
-	return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BQL);
+	return true;
 }
 
 static int netdev_queue_add_kobject(struct net_device *dev, int index)
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PATCH v3 2/5 veth: implement Byte Queue Limits (BQL) for latency reduction

In reply to [email protected]

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>

Commit dc82a33297fc ("veth: apply qdisc backpressure on full ptr_ring to reduce TX drops") gave qdiscs control over veth by returning NETDEV_TX_BUSY when the ptr_ring is full (DRV_XOFF). That commit noted a known limitation: the 256-entry ptr_ring sits in front of the qdisc as a dark buffer, adding base latency because the qdisc has no visibility into how many bytes are already queued there.

Add BQL support so the qdisc gets feedback and can begin shaping traffic before the ring fills. In testing with fq_codel, BQL reduces ping RTT under UDP load from ~6.61ms to ~0.36ms (18x).

Charge a fixed VETH_BQL_UNIT (1) per packet rather than skb->len, so the DQL limit tracks packets-in-flight. Unlike a physical NIC, veth has no link speed -- the ptr_ring drains at CPU speed and is packet-indexed, not byte-indexed, so bytes are not the natural unit. With byte-based charging, small packets sneak many more entries into the ring before STACK_XOFF fires, deepening the dark buffer under mixed-size workloads. Testing with a concurrent min-size packet flood shows 3.7x ping RTT degradation with skb->len charging versus no change with fixed-unit charging.

Charge BQL inside veth_xdp_rx() under the ptr_ring producer_lock, after confirming the ring is not full. The charge must precede the produce because the NAPI consumer can run on another CPU and complete the SKB the instant it becomes visible in the ring. Doing both under the same lock avoids a pre-charge/undo pattern -- BQL is only charged when produce is guaranteed to succeed.

BQL is enabled only when a real qdisc is attached (guarded by !qdisc_txq_has_no_queue), as HARD_TX_LOCK provides serialization for TXQ modification like dql_queued(). For lltx devices, like veth, this HARD_TX_LOCK serialization isn't provided. The ptr_ring producer_lock provides additional serialization that would allow BQL to work correctly even with noqueue, though that combination is not currently enabled, as the netstack will drop and warn.

Track per-SKB BQL state via a VETH_BQL_FLAG pointer tag in the ptr_ring entry. This is necessary because the qdisc can be replaced live while SKBs are in-flight -- each SKB must carry the charge decision made at enqueue time rather than re-checking the peer's qdisc at completion.

Complete per-SKB in veth_xdp_rcv() rather than in bulk, so STACK_XOFF clears promptly when producer and consumer run on different CPUs.

BQL introduces a second independent queue-stop mechanism (STACK_XOFF) alongside the existing DRV_XOFF (ring full). Both must be clear for the queue to transmit. Reset BQL state in veth_napi_del_range() after synchronize_net() to avoid racing with in-flight veth_poll() calls. Clamp the reset loop to the peer's real_num_tx_queues, since the peer may have fewer TX queues than the local device has RX queues (e.g. when veth is enslaved to a bond with XDP attached).

---
 drivers/net/veth.c | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
 1 file changed, 65 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
drivers/net/veth.c +65 -11
index e35df717e65e..3de25ba34a90 100644
@@ -34,9 +34,13 @@
 #define DRV_VERSION	"1.0"
 
 #define VETH_XDP_FLAG		BIT(0)
+#define VETH_BQL_FLAG		BIT(1)
 #define VETH_RING_SIZE		256
 #define VETH_XDP_HEADROOM	(XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM + NET_IP_ALIGN)
 
+/* Fixed BQL charge: DQL limit tracks packets-in-flight, not bytes */
+#define VETH_BQL_UNIT		1
+
 #define VETH_XDP_TX_BULK_SIZE	16
 #define VETH_XDP_BATCH		16
 
@@ -280,6 +284,21 @@ static bool veth_is_xdp_frame(void *ptr)
 	return (unsigned long)ptr & VETH_XDP_FLAG;
 }
 
+static bool veth_ptr_is_bql(void *ptr)
+{
+	return (unsigned long)ptr & VETH_BQL_FLAG;
+}
+
+static struct sk_buff *veth_ptr_to_skb(void *ptr)
+{
+	return (void *)((unsigned long)ptr & ~VETH_BQL_FLAG);
+}
+
+static void *veth_skb_to_ptr(struct sk_buff *skb, bool bql)
+{
+	return bql ? (void *)((unsigned long)skb | VETH_BQL_FLAG) : skb;
+}
+
 static struct xdp_frame *veth_ptr_to_xdp(void *ptr)
 {
 	return (void *)((unsigned long)ptr & ~VETH_XDP_FLAG);
@@ -295,7 +314,7 @@ static void veth_ptr_free(void *ptr)
 	if (veth_is_xdp_frame(ptr))
 		xdp_return_frame(veth_ptr_to_xdp(ptr));
 	else
-		kfree_skb(ptr);
+		kfree_skb(veth_ptr_to_skb(ptr));
 }
 
 static void __veth_xdp_flush(struct veth_rq *rq)
@@ -309,19 +328,33 @@ static void __veth_xdp_flush(struct veth_rq *rq)
 	}
 }
 
-static int veth_xdp_rx(struct veth_rq *rq, struct sk_buff *skb)
+static int veth_xdp_rx(struct veth_rq *rq, struct sk_buff *skb, bool do_bql,
+		       struct netdev_queue *txq)
 {
-	if (unlikely(ptr_ring_produce(&rq->xdp_ring, skb)))
+	struct ptr_ring *ring = &rq->xdp_ring;
+
+	spin_lock(&ring->producer_lock);
+	if (unlikely(!ring->size) || __ptr_ring_full(ring)) {
+		spin_unlock(&ring->producer_lock);
 		return NETDEV_TX_BUSY; /* signal qdisc layer */
+	}
+
+	/* BQL charge before produce; consumer cannot see entry yet */
+	if (do_bql)
+		netdev_tx_sent_queue(txq, VETH_BQL_UNIT);
+
+	__ptr_ring_produce(ring, veth_skb_to_ptr(skb, do_bql));
+	spin_unlock(&ring->producer_lock);
 
 	return NET_RX_SUCCESS; /* same as NETDEV_TX_OK */
 }
 
 static int veth_forward_skb(struct net_device *dev, struct sk_buff *skb,
-			    struct veth_rq *rq, bool xdp)
+			    struct veth_rq *rq, bool xdp, bool do_bql,
+			    struct netdev_queue *txq)
 {
 	return __dev_forward_skb(dev, skb) ?: xdp ?
-		veth_xdp_rx(rq, skb) :
+		veth_xdp_rx(rq, skb, do_bql, txq) :
 		__netif_rx(skb);
 }
 
@@ -352,6 +385,7 @@ static netdev_tx_t veth_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 	struct net_device *rcv;
 	int length = skb->len;
 	bool use_napi = false;
+	bool do_bql = false;
 	int ret, rxq;
 
 	rcu_read_lock();
@@ -375,8 +409,11 @@ static netdev_tx_t veth_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 	}
 
 	skb_tx_timestamp(skb);
+	txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, rxq);
 
-	ret = veth_forward_skb(rcv, skb, rq, use_napi);
+	/* BQL charge happens inside veth_xdp_rx() under producer_lock */
+	do_bql = use_napi && !qdisc_txq_has_no_queue(txq);
+	ret = veth_forward_skb(rcv, skb, rq, use_napi, do_bql, txq);
 	switch (ret) {
 	case NET_RX_SUCCESS: /* same as NETDEV_TX_OK */
 		if (!use_napi)
@@ -388,8 +425,6 @@ static netdev_tx_t veth_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 		/* If a qdisc is attached to our virtual device, returning
 		 * NETDEV_TX_BUSY is allowed.
 		 */
-		txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, rxq);
-
 		if (qdisc_txq_has_no_queue(txq)) {
 			dev_kfree_skb_any(skb);
 			goto drop;
@@ -412,6 +447,7 @@ static netdev_tx_t veth_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
 		net_crit_ratelimited("%s(%s): Invalid return code(%d)",
 				     __func__, dev->name, ret);
 	}
+
 	rcu_read_unlock();
 
 	return ret;
@@ -900,7 +936,8 @@ static struct sk_buff *veth_xdp_rcv_skb(struct veth_rq *rq,
 
 static int veth_xdp_rcv(struct veth_rq *rq, int budget,
 			struct veth_xdp_tx_bq *bq,
-			struct veth_stats *stats)
+			struct veth_stats *stats,
+			struct netdev_queue *peer_txq)
 {
 	int i, done = 0, n_xdpf = 0;
 	void *xdpf[VETH_XDP_BATCH];
@@ -928,9 +965,13 @@ static int veth_xdp_rcv(struct veth_rq *rq, int budget,
 			}
 		} else {
 			/* ndo_start_xmit */
-			struct sk_buff *skb = ptr;
+			bool bql_charged = veth_ptr_is_bql(ptr);
+			struct sk_buff *skb = veth_ptr_to_skb(ptr);
 
 			stats->xdp_bytes += skb->len;
+			if (peer_txq && bql_charged)
+				netdev_tx_completed_queue(peer_txq, 1, VETH_BQL_UNIT);
+
 			skb = veth_xdp_rcv_skb(rq, skb, bq, stats);
 			if (skb) {
 				if (skb_shared(skb) || skb_unclone(skb, GFP_ATOMIC))
@@ -975,7 +1016,7 @@ static int veth_poll(struct napi_struct *napi, int budget)
 	peer_txq = peer_dev ? netdev_get_tx_queue(peer_dev, queue_idx) : NULL;
 
 	xdp_set_return_frame_no_direct();
-	done = veth_xdp_rcv(rq, budget, &bq, &stats);
+	done = veth_xdp_rcv(rq, budget, &bq, &stats, peer_txq);
 
 	if (stats.xdp_redirect > 0)
 		xdp_do_flush();
@@ -1073,6 +1114,7 @@ static int __veth_napi_enable(struct net_device *dev)
 static void veth_napi_del_range(struct net_device *dev, int start, int end)
 {
 	struct veth_priv *priv = netdev_priv(dev);
+	struct net_device *peer;
 	int i;
 
 	for (i = start; i < end; i++) {
@@ -1091,6 +1133,17 @@ static void veth_napi_del_range(struct net_device *dev, int start, int end)
 		ptr_ring_cleanup(&rq->xdp_ring, veth_ptr_free);
 	}
 
+	/* Reset BQL on peer's txqs: remaining ring items were freed above
+	 * without BQL completion, so DQL state must be reset.
+	 */
+	peer = rtnl_dereference(priv->peer);
+	if (peer) {
+		int peer_end = min(end, (int)peer->real_num_tx_queues);
+
+		for (i = start; i < peer_end; i++)
+			netdev_tx_reset_queue(netdev_get_tx_queue(peer, i));
+	}
+
 	for (i = start; i < end; i++) {
 		page_pool_destroy(priv->rq[i].page_pool);
 		priv->rq[i].page_pool = NULL;
@@ -1740,6 +1793,7 @@ static void veth_setup(struct net_device *dev)
 	dev->priv_flags |= IFF_PHONY_HEADROOM;
 	dev->priv_flags |= IFF_DISABLE_NETPOLL;
 	dev->lltx = true;
+	dev->bql = true;
 
 	dev->netdev_ops = &veth_netdev_ops;
 	dev->xdp_metadata_ops = &veth_xdp_metadata_ops;
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PATCH v3 3/5 veth: add tx_timeout watchdog as BQL safety net

In reply to [email protected]

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>

With the introduction of BQL (Byte Queue Limits) for veth, there are now two independent mechanisms that can stop a transmit queue:

- DRV_XOFF: set by netif_tx_stop_queue() when the ptr_ring is full
- STACK_XOFF: set by BQL when the byte-in-flight limit is reached

If either mechanism stalls without a corresponding wake/completion, the queue stops permanently. Enable the net device watchdog timer and implement ndo_tx_timeout as a failsafe recovery.

The timeout handler resets BQL state (clearing STACK_XOFF) and wakes the queue (clearing DRV_XOFF), covering both stop mechanisms. The watchdog fires after 16 seconds, which accommodates worst-case NAPI processing (budget=64 packets x 250ms per-packet consumer delay) without false positives under normal backpressure.

---
 drivers/net/veth.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
drivers/net/veth.c +18 -0
index 3de25ba34a90..9d7b085c9548 100644
@@ -1431,6 +1431,22 @@ static int veth_set_channels(struct net_device *dev,
 	goto out;
 }
 
+static void veth_tx_timeout(struct net_device *dev, unsigned int txqueue)
+{
+	struct netdev_queue *txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, txqueue);
+
+	netdev_err(dev,
+		   "veth backpressure(0x%lX) stalled(n:%ld) TXQ(%u) re-enable\n",
+		   txq->state, atomic_long_read(&txq->trans_timeout), txqueue);
+
+	/* Cannot call netdev_tx_reset_queue(): dql_reset() races with
+	 * peer NAPI calling dql_completed() concurrently.
+	 * Just clear the stop bits; the qdisc will re-stop if still stuck.
+	 */
+	clear_bit(__QUEUE_STATE_STACK_XOFF, &txq->state);
+	netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);
+}
+
 static int veth_open(struct net_device *dev)
 {
 	struct veth_priv *priv = netdev_priv(dev);
@@ -1769,6 +1785,7 @@ static const struct net_device_ops veth_netdev_ops = {
 	.ndo_bpf		= veth_xdp,
 	.ndo_xdp_xmit		= veth_ndo_xdp_xmit,
 	.ndo_get_peer_dev	= veth_peer_dev,
+	.ndo_tx_timeout		= veth_tx_timeout,
 };
 
 static const struct xdp_metadata_ops veth_xdp_metadata_ops = {
@@ -1808,6 +1825,7 @@ static void veth_setup(struct net_device *dev)
 	dev->priv_destructor = veth_dev_free;
 	dev->pcpu_stat_type = NETDEV_PCPU_STAT_TSTATS;
 	dev->max_mtu = ETH_MAX_MTU;
+	dev->watchdog_timeo = msecs_to_jiffies(16000);
 
 	dev->hw_features = VETH_FEATURES;
 	dev->hw_enc_features = VETH_FEATURES;
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#4 lore raw

PATCH v3 4/5 net: sched: add timeout count to NETDEV WATCHDOG message

In reply to [email protected]

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>

Add the per-queue timeout counter (trans_timeout) to the core NETDEV WATCHDOG log message. This makes it easy to determine how frequently a particular queue is stalling from a single log line, without having to search through and correlate spaced-out log entries.

Useful for production monitoring where timeouts are spaced by the watchdog interval, making frequency hard to judge.

---
 net/sched/sch_generic.c | 8 ++++----
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
net/sched/sch_generic.c +4 -4
index a93321db8fd7..3e2e2e887a86 100644
@@ -533,13 +533,12 @@ static void dev_watchdog(struct timer_list *t)
 		    netif_running(dev) &&
 		    netif_carrier_ok(dev)) {
 			unsigned int timedout_ms = 0;
+			struct netdev_queue *txq;
 			unsigned int i;
 			unsigned long trans_start;
 			unsigned long oldest_start = jiffies;
 
 			for (i = 0; i < dev->num_tx_queues; i++) {
-				struct netdev_queue *txq;
-
 				txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, i);
 				if (!netif_xmit_stopped(txq))
 					continue;
@@ -561,9 +560,10 @@ static void dev_watchdog(struct timer_list *t)
 
 			if (unlikely(timedout_ms)) {
 				trace_net_dev_xmit_timeout(dev, i);
-				netdev_crit(dev, "NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: %d: transmit queue %u timed out %u ms\n",
+				netdev_crit(dev, "NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: %d: transmit queue %u timed out %u ms (n:%ld)\n",
 					    raw_smp_processor_id(),
-					    i, timedout_ms);
+					    i, timedout_ms,
+					    atomic_long_read(&txq->trans_timeout));
 				netif_freeze_queues(dev);
 				dev->netdev_ops->ndo_tx_timeout(dev, i);
 				netif_unfreeze_queues(dev);
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#5 lore raw

PATCH v3 5/5 selftests: net: add veth BQL stress test

In reply to [email protected]

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <[email protected]>

Add a selftest that exercises veth's BQL (Byte Queue Limits) code path under sustained UDP load. The test creates a veth pair with GRO enabled (activating the NAPI path and BQL), attaches a qdisc, optionally loads iptables rules in the consumer namespace to slow NAPI processing, and floods UDP packets for a configurable duration.

The test serves two purposes: benchmarking BQL's latency impact under configurable load (iptables rules, qdisc type and parameters), and detecting kernel BUG/Oops from DQL accounting mismatches. It monitors dmesg throughout the run and reports PASS/FAIL via kselftest (lib.sh).

Diagnostic output is printed every 5 seconds:
- BQL sysfs inflight/limit and watchdog tx_timeout counter
- qdisc stats: packets, drops, requeues, backlog, qlen, overlimits
- consumer PPS and NAPI-64 cycle time (shows fq_codel target impact)
- sink PPS (per-period delta), latency min/avg/max (stddev at exit)
- ping RTT to measure latency under load

Generating enough traffic to fill the 256-entry ptr_ring requires care:
the UDP sendto() path charges each SKB to sk_wmem_alloc, and the SKB stays charged (via sock_wfree destructor) until the consumer NAPI thread finishes processing it -- including any iptables rules in the receive path. With the default sk_sndbuf (~208KB from wmem_default), only ~93 packets can be in-flight before sendto(MSG_DONTWAIT) returns EAGAIN. Since 93 < 256 ring entries, the ring never fills and no backpressure occurs. The test raises wmem_max via sysctl and sets SO_SNDBUF=1MB on the flood socket to remove this bottleneck. An earlier multi-namespace routing approach avoided this limit because ip_forward creates new SKBs detached from the sender's socket.

The --bql-disable option (sets limit_min=1GB) enables A/B comparison. Typical results with --nrules 6000 --qdisc-opts 'target 2ms interval 20ms':

fq_codel + BQL disabled: ping RTT ~10.8ms, 15% loss, 400KB in ptr_ring
fq_codel + BQL enabled: ping RTT ~0.6ms, 0% loss, 4KB in ptr_ring

Both cases show identical consumer speed (~20Kpps) and fq_codel drops (~255K), proving the improvement comes purely from where packets buffer.

BQL moves buffering from the ptr_ring into the qdisc, where AQM (fq_codel/CAKE) can act on it -- eliminating the "dark buffer" that hides congestion from the scheduler.

The --qdisc-replace mode cycles through sfq/pfifo/fq_codel/noqueue under active traffic to verify that stale BQL state (STACK_XOFF) is properly handled during live qdisc transitions.

A companion wrapper (veth_bql_test_virtme.sh) launches the test inside a virtme-ng VM, with .config validation to prevent silent stalls.

Usage:
sudo ./veth_bql_test.sh [--duration 300] [--nrules 100]

                          [--qdisc sfq] [--qdisc-opts '...']
                          [--bql-disable] [--normal-napi]
                          [--qdisc-replace]
---
 tools/testing/selftests/net/Makefile          |   3 +
 tools/testing/selftests/net/config            |   1 +
 tools/testing/selftests/net/napi_poll_hist.bt |  40 +
 tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh  | 821 ++++++++++++++++++
 .../selftests/net/veth_bql_test_virtme.sh     | 124 +++
 5 files changed, 989 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/net/napi_poll_hist.bt
 create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh
 create mode 100755 tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test_virtme.sh
tools/testing/selftests/net/Makefile +3 -0
index 231245a95879..7f6524169b93 100644
@@ -119,6 +119,7 @@ TEST_PROGS := \
 	udpgso_bench.sh \
 	unicast_extensions.sh \
 	veth.sh \
+	veth_bql_test.sh \
 	vlan_bridge_binding.sh \
 	vlan_hw_filter.sh \
 	vrf-xfrm-tests.sh \
@@ -196,7 +197,9 @@ TEST_FILES := \
 	fcnal-test.sh \
 	in_netns.sh \
 	lib.sh \
+	napi_poll_hist.bt \
 	settings \
+	veth_bql_test_virtme.sh \
 # end of TEST_FILES
 
 # YNL files, must be before "include ..lib.mk"
tools/testing/selftests/net/config +1 -0
index 2a390cae41bf..b53cf11232ea 100644
@@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ CONFIG_NET_SCH_HTB=m
 CONFIG_NET_SCH_INGRESS=m
 CONFIG_NET_SCH_NETEM=y
 CONFIG_NET_SCH_PRIO=m
+CONFIG_NET_SCH_SFQ=m
 CONFIG_NET_VRF=y
 CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=m
 CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK_OVS=y
tools/testing/selftests/net/napi_poll_hist.bt new file +40 -0
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..34d1a43906bf
@@ -0,0 +1,40 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env bpftrace
+// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
+// napi_poll work histogram for veth BQL testing.
+// Shows how many packets each NAPI poll processes (0..64).
+// Full-budget (64) polls mean more work is pending; partial (<64) means
+// the ring drained before the budget was exhausted.
+//
+// Usage: bpftrace napi_poll_hist.bt
+// Interval output is a single compact line for easy script parsing.
+
+tracepoint:napi:napi_poll
+/str(args->dev_name, 8) == "veth_bql"/
+{
+	@work = lhist(args->work, 0, 65, 1);
+	@total++;
+	@sum += args->work;
+	if (args->work == args->budget) {
+		@full++;
+	}
+}
+
+interval:s:5
+{
+	$avg = @total > 0 ? @sum / @total : 0;
+	printf("napi_poll: polls=%llu full_budget=%llu partial=%llu avg_work=%llu\n",
+	       @total, @full, @total - @full, $avg);
+	clear(@total);
+	clear(@full);
+	clear(@sum);
+}
+
+END
+{
+	printf("\n--- napi_poll work histogram (lifetime) ---\n");
+	print(@work);
+	clear(@work);
+	clear(@total);
+	clear(@full);
+	clear(@sum);
+}
tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh new file +821 -0

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tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test_virtme.sh new file +124 -0

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#6 lore raw

Re: [PATCH net-next v3 5/5] selftests: net: add veth BQL stress test

Quoted 8 lines · On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:20:32 +0200 [email protected] wrote:

A companion wrapper (veth_bql_test_virtme.sh) launches the test inside a virtme-ng VM, with .config validation to prevent silent stalls.

Usage:
sudo ./veth_bql_test.sh [--duration 300] [--nrules 100]

                          [--qdisc sfq] [--qdisc-opts '...']
                          [--bql-disable] [--normal-napi]
                          [--qdisc-replace]

Not convinced we need to carry this in the tree.

Honestly:

tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh

Quoted 9 lines
tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh new file +9 -0
+	close(fd);
+	return 0;
+}
+CEOF
+gcc -O2 -Wall -o "$TMPDIR"/udp_sink "$TMPDIR"/udp_sink.c -lm || exit $ksft_fail
+}
+
+setup_veth() {
+    log_info "Setting up

This whole test looks like outrageous slop.
Did you even read this? :|

#7 lore raw

Re: [PATCH net-next v3 5/5] selftests: net: add veth BQL stress test

Quoted 11 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 8 lines · On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:20:32 +0200 [email protected] wrote:

A companion wrapper (veth_bql_test_virtme.sh) launches the test inside a virtme-ng VM, with .config validation to prevent silent stalls.

Usage:

   sudo ./veth_bql_test.sh [--duration 300] [--nrules 100]
                           [--qdisc sfq] [--qdisc-opts '...']
                           [--bql-disable] [--normal-napi]
                           [--qdisc-replace]

Not convinced we need to carry this in the tree.

I agree, I will drop the selftest in V4.

The selftest have been very useful during *development* phase. The number of options also reveal that we (Jonas and I) have been using this beyond a selftest. The veth_bql_test_virtme.sh wrapper have been a huge help to accelerate test-based development cycles, but it's not a selftest component per say. This have caught actual bugs in our BQL/DQL API usage, but all those BUGs are fixed in code.

It makes a lot of sense to avoid having to maintain this code in tree. I can place it somewhere on GitHub, else it can be pulled from lore.

--Jesper

#8 lore raw

Re: [PATCH net-next v3 5/5] selftests: net: add veth BQL stress test

In reply to [email protected]

tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh line 125

Quoted 3 lines · On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 07:20:32PM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
tools/testing/selftests/net/veth_bql_test.sh new file +3 -0
+compile_tools() {
+    echo "--- Compiling UDP flood tool ---"
+cat > "$TMPDIR"/udp_flood.c << 'CEOF'

The biggest structural issue: the test ships ~250 lines of C source as heredocs and shells out to gcc at runtime to build them. This is not how selftests normally work.

maintainer
#9 lore raw
In reply to [email protected]
Quoted 3 lines · On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:20:27 +0200 [email protected] wrote:

This series adds BQL (Byte Queue Limits) to the veth driver, reducing latency by dynamically limiting in-flight packets in the ptr_ring and moving buffering into the qdisc where AQM algorithms can act on it.

Does not apply (am I remembering right that it's not the first time this series doesn't apply?)

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#10 lore raw
Quoted 7 lines · Jakub Kicinski
Quoted 3 lines · On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:20:27 +0200 [email protected] wrote:

This series adds BQL (Byte Queue Limits) to the veth driver, reducing latency by dynamically limiting in-flight packets in the ptr_ring and moving buffering into the qdisc where AQM algorithms can act on it.

Does not apply (am I remembering right that it's not the first time this series doesn't apply?)

Rebased posted
V4: https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/

The conflict was on tools/testing/selftests/net/config for a change applied 16 Apr, and I send patchset 29 Apr. So, yes it seems I forgot to rebase for that period, sorry.

--Jesper