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why MTD model ?

DISCUSSION Gregg C Levine 2 participants 2 messages Jun 14, 2002 – Jun 15, 2002 1 message not in the archive Memory technology devices (MTD)

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Hello from Gregg C Levine
If by top posting you mean sending you mail, David, and then the other name, and finally the list, then fine. This one is only to the list. And I'm just stating a simple fact. Yes, I agree with you, the FAT partition isn't necessary. The cards just came with it. And no the UMSDOS method of creating a Linux distribution does not work in the 2.4.x series. I don't know why. The folks at Slackware never told me. But I am curious which patches need to be applied within the patch directory of your MTD collection to the 2.2.17 kernel to make it work?
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From: David Woodhouse [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Woodhouse
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Gregg C Levine
Cc: 'Studying MTD'
Subject: Re: why MTD model ?

No top-posting here please.

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I agree David with you on all points, except one. Regarding the reliability of PCMCIA-ATA drives. I have a bunch here right now, and they are proving to be more reliable then the disk drives I keep buying from the same shop. The fact that the manufacturer decided to discontinue them because of size, is irrelevant. The fact that they came with a FAT-12 file system, and a partition to match is also irrelevant.

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Well, if you're comparing with the reliability of cheap IDE drives,...

:)

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I haven't really dealt with CompactFlash or PCMCIA-ATA cards much, I'm

only

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repeating what others have reported.

But certainly you don't have to keep the partitioning and the FAT file system. You can blow it away and just put an ext2 or ext3 file system

on the

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whole device. Although as discussed, ext2 (just like FAT) isn't safe

w.r.t

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power loss and ext3 causes you to wear the flash out far quicker than

you

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need to.

I don't think anyone's insane enough to try to run a Linux box with a

FAT

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root file system any more -- does the UMSDOS hack even compile in

recent

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kernels? Without it you won't get device nodes, symlinks, permissions,

etc.

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Quoted 2 lines · [email protected] said:

If by top posting you mean sending you mail, David, and then the other name, and finally the list, then fine. This one is only to the list.

By top-posting I mean annoying practice of quoting the entire mail and just typing your own response at the top. It is normal to quote only those parts of the mail to which you're actually responding, and your response to those parts immediately below the quoted text.

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And I'm just stating a simple fact. Yes, I agree with you, the FAT partition isn't necessary. The cards just came with it. And no the UMSDOS method of creating a Linux distribution does not work in the 2.4.x series. I don't know why. The folks at Slackware never told me.

UMSDOS was always a bit of an evil hack. When all the core Linux file system code was overhauled during the 2.3 series, nobody cared enough to update it, and I believe the new saner core VFS code was more difficult to abuse in the ways the UMSDOS needed to.

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But I am curious which patches need to be applied within the patch directory of your MTD collection to the 2.2.17 kernel to make it work?

Just the inter-module-xxx one, I think.

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